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August 28, 2008

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hit and run

Born in the USA is playing....but no Boss.

Were any attendees up in the cheap seats led to believe he would be there?

barb in atl

I hope that the rest of the country sees things the way you all do. My kids go to middle school in the suburbs of Atlanta. My 6th grade daughter said that she is so sick of politics being discussed in all of her classes. My 8th grade son comes home upset everyday because every class has become nothing but political discussions. I believe that the Ayers/Obama wing has been succcessful in trying to indoctrinate everyone. I hope that there are some people out there that see through this pap! You guys give me hope.

Elliott

This is Steve Schmidt's moment. This is Steve Schmidt's time.

Barry

I've avoided watching most of this. But I tuned in tonight, after all, who wouldn't want to watch the messiah. Up until now, I thought I would not vote in the presidential election. I'll hold my nose and vote McCain.

hit and run

Steve Schmidt is the harangue we've been waiting for

Sara (Pal2Pal)

By Stephen Spruiell

The song that played at the end of Obama's speech, 'Only in America,' is a Brooks & Dunn tune. I don't know who they're supporting this time around, if anyone. But the last time that song was played at a political convention, it was at the GOP convention in '04. And Brooks & Dunn played it live.

SukieTawdry

One of my favorite lines from the convention came from a Hispanic Congresswoman who said in Spanish "by his friends we shall know him." Except she was talking about John McCain.

PaulL

I didn't watch a second.

But from reading your posts, it sounds like Obama is a Democrat. I seem to recall, somewhere way back in my memory banks, that Obama was supposed to be different. Wasn't his America not made of red and blue states? Where's the post-partisanship?

Ann

SukieTawdry,

I am so glad you joined in on the fun. If you are still there Barb, you should too.

JMH,

I have been thinking the same thing all day. If THE ONE is not chosen it will be because of the evil Republicans and a bounce to Hill next time and she knows it.

SukieTawdry

Oh, Krauthammer, thank God. It was not a good speech but it was a smart one. We'll see.

Jim

barb in atl

Reread what you wrote and consider homeschooling. Impoverish yourself if you have to. You owe it to your kids to make sure they get an education.

Sorry to be a busybody, but I love children.

hit and run

Geraghty has three parts...but since I said It's angry, I'll copy this part:

Angry: Of all the aspects of this speech, the anger was the part that surprised me the most. I didn’t expect him to take it easy on McCain, but after McCain’s “well done,” ad, I wondered if they would take out some of the sharper or snippier lines. I can't imagine anything came out, unless this morning's version included him dropping the F-bomb. The red tie fits Obama tonight, because he was angry. As another blogger noted to me while Obama was giving the speech, McCain’s congratulatory ad looks out of place tonight, as he just made a nice gesture to a guy ripping him six ways to Sunday.

Obama clearly was offended by the “Celebrity” ad. He ought to blame his organizers, who treated this night as a mega concert, not a key step in the democratic process.

The line “McCain said he will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, but he won’t even follow him to the cave where he lives,” was disastrous. Obnoxious.

“I’ve got news for you John McCain. We all put our country first.” First of all, no, some people don’t. Second, he made that line into an attack line.

Obama was bitter. Clinging, I guess you could say.

Go read it all..

SukieTawdry

Charles thinks it will help him with Dems, but not the undecided. Seems to think he's wrapped up Reagan Dems.

Major says everybody was crying when O came out. Gack.

Sue

Is it just me? I hate tears at political rallies. Unless, of course, as I've said before it is the military, babies or John Wayne.

hit and run

McCain's ad for me, congratulating Obama...anyone else?

hit and run

On Fox, I should note.

SukieTawdry
The line “McCain said he will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, but he won’t even follow him to the cave where he lives,” was disastrous. Obnoxious.

It was the most obnoxious of the speech. With many to choose from.

Sue

The AP is saying short on details, large on attacks.

hit and run

Karl Rove quoting MayBee('s quote of Obama)!

bad

..to the cave where he lives,”

Ha Osama invited Obama to his crib?

MayBee

Karl Rove loved the line I loved, in the same way I loved it.

bad

Karl Rove loved the line I loved, in the same way I loved it.

I love you both for loving it.

hit and run

McCain's VP is,,,,,,!!!!!

Soylent Red

Ann and JMH:

I have been telling people for some time that the Obamessiah will single handedly set back the cause of AAs, whether he wins or loses.

If he loses, it will be loudly proclaimed that it was racism. This will go over with whites and hispanics like a turd in the punchbowl.

If he wins, he screws things up so bad nobody ever wants to take the chance that a black candidate might have gotten there on affirmative action.

So unless he's the Jackie Robinson of politics (and he isn't) it's a lose-lose.

Unless you are trying to expose the "system" and lock in a new generation of discontent and angst. I believe that is the real goal of those who are behind Obamessiah. Keep 'em down on the prog plantation.

As for you Jane...

I don't mind being mean. She has an underbite like a bulldog. Moreover, she has a heavy and frequently furrowed brow. Also like a bulldog.

That's why I call her Bulldoggy.

And while I'm at it, while beauty might be skin deep, MO's ugly goes clear through to her soul. She is an ugly person inside and out.

Sue

Huckabee has written on his blog that he was never vetted, never invited to go to Dayton. Crap. Shades of Hillary.

Via Hot Air.

bgates

Barb, I remember the same people trying to indoctrinate my 6th and 8th grade classes to stay away from drinking and marijuana and figure out what fractions were. If teachers today are as convincing as mine were...

...McCain will be the least conservative President for the next 40 years.

Jane

I LOVE Karl Rove.

And after the speech seeing McCain's ad one more time, all I could think is, we know McCain is a good man who loves his country, and we know that Obama threatens anyone who questions if he feels the same.

Net gain McCain.

Ann

SukieTawdry,

That line was so telling. He needs to read "Lone Survivor" by Marcus Luttrell. If McCain is smart maybe Marcus will be invited to speak about his heroic team at the Republican Convention.

Jim Rhoads aka vnjagvet

McCain likely has a gang breaking this speech down line by line. It has a lot of points in it that BHO will have to back up in debates with McCain.

Somehow, I think MC will school him. Much to the surprise and chagrin of the Obamaniacs.

hit and run

McCain VP is...NOT GONNA BE LEAKED TONIGHT!!!

Greta tells us.

Captain Hate

Thanks to all for watching that and reporting on the expected lack of substance from the vacuous one. Me, I was watching the last 2 episodes of the third season of The Wire. I think I had a better time.

hit and run

Captain:
I think I had a better time.

Depends. Did you have 12 beers?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Report: Huckabee says not vetted, not invited to Dayton

Captain Hate

Correction: I had a more fulfilling visual and auditory experience. 12 beers; were you playing a drinking game for everytime he said something stoopid?

JM Hanes

You know, the pundits are talking a lot about the feeling on the floor, and the "spectacular Spectacular" quality of the moment, which they're saying will be hard to match. I think you had to be there, literally, to feel any of that. Watching on the tube, I could hardly tell any difference between the convention center and the stadium. I don't think any of the euphoria of the moment actually comes across on camera. In fact, tonight almost seemed like the least exciting night of the convention.

Ann

Soylent,

Tonight on Hardball, Chrissy and Keith were in utter delight at the speech copy they were handed because Obama was elected democratically and not given some posh (underserved) cabinet position like Powell and Rice. You see Republicans only give Americans cabinet posts because they are not qualified but it makes them look good.

SukieTawdry

Lots of interesting comments around the 'sphere. Lots of talk about the anger and gloom and doom. Yuval Levin said it was a September 10th convention in the extreme. I'll say. The only thing we ever heard about Iraq was the usual get out. Nothing about Russia. The RNC will be a huge contrast. It will address the realities of geopolitics and will have a whole different view of life in America. I guess how you vote will depend on whether you see yourself living in the Democrat's America or in the Republican's.

Barry

Good. If it's huckabee, I'll take back my previous comment.

hit and run

Captain:
were you playing a drinking game for everytime he said something stoopid?

With correction, yes.

SukieTawdry

I forgot--word is Romney.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Without a balloon drop, the milling crowd looked lost. Like a concert goer waiting for the encore, but none ever comes.

Captain Hate

Hit,

You seem remarkably coherent. Was the speech that sobering?

Steve Diamond

It's $160 million. Early on I was told by by an Annenberg official that the CAC had raised matching funds of 60 mn but that was only the fundraising that the CAC did in the private sector. They also secured matching money from the public sector for a grand total of 160 million raised and spent in six years.

Sue

JMH,

I felt the same way. I thought it came across better in the convention hall.

JM Hanes

hit:

I think Obama pushed the anger button the moment he clinched the delegate count. His speech that night was qualitatively different from the primary spiels that got him there.

hit and run

Captain:
You seem remarkably coherent

I Blame Global Warming!

Sara (Pal2Pal)

JMH: I was getting the same feeling, played much better in person than on TV. Sorta like Nixon, Kennedy and Nixon's 5 o'clock shadow. Those who saw the debate thought Kennedy won, those who heard it on radio, thought Nixon won.

hit and run

Professor Diamond, thank you. Seriously. Your work is invaluable and appreciated.

Captain Hate

I Blame Global Warming!

Was it 12 high-alc Belgian beers?

Speaking of global warming, how many howlers did Weird Al come up with?

JM Hanes

Matthews says, loosely, "It wasn't a liberal speech, as much as it was a unifying speech, a communion." Matthews just gets better and better, doesn't he? That was about as much as I could stand to listen to.

For what it's worth, Frank Luntz says the key demographic this time around is the "Indignant Independent." That was about as much as I could stand to listen to.

Larry King has Ben Stein on. I don't think I can stand it.

Captain Hate

Yes, thank you Professor Diamond. All of a sudden I feel less worthy to be here.

MayBee

Captain Hate- I have found it is much better to never really feel worthy to be here. Just drink.

Bravo, Professor Diamond. Good luck.

hit and run

OK, gotta off. Heading to the lake tomorrow -- and leaving the laptop behind for the weekend.

See you all late Monday or some time Tuesday.

Jim Rhoads aka vnjagvet

Prof's Diamond and Hurtz were doing something more productive than listening to the Sermon on Mount Invesco.

JM Hanes

Steve Diamond:

I'm delighted to see you commenting here. We are all impressed -- and dependent -- on the incredible work and the accessible summaries you have been providing. Bravo, and thank you. Hope this thread doesn't leave you wondering what sort of strange land you've wondered into, but live snark blogging is something of a tradition here. Not that this is otherwise a snark free zone.

Rick Ballard

Thank you, Professor Diamond. When you say "They also secured matching money from the public sector for a grand total of 160 million raised and spent in six years." what constitutes "public sector"? From what budget did it come?

My sincere compliments on the work you have accomplished to date.

SukieTawdry

It's a great story, Ann. I have no doubt we'll be seeing many great stories like his at the RNC.

Speaking of, what was with that parade of American losers ordinary Americans telling their sob stories. I mean, I am truly sorry that these folks are down on their luck right now and I sincerely hope they all recover soon--hopefully without government intervention--but, my God, how about a few uplifting American success stories. I swear I don't know how Democrats even get up out of bed in the morning considering their lives of hopeless despair and existential pain.

Susan Estrich seems less than impressed.

Jim Rhoads aka vnjagvet

Hurtz=Kurtz

Jack and Soda working.

MayBee

Sukie- but, my God, how about a few uplifting American success stories

Sorry. Obama, Biden, and the Son of A Millworker were the only 3 to make it out of the hellhole that is most of America.

I agree with you, I often have sympathy for people and their troubles. I do not want a government to create policies crafted on sad anecdotes.

JM Hanes

I'm just hoping the Republicans don't embarrass themselves in Minneapolis. I'm afraid I'm not holding my breath, but I do hope they'll run a slightly tighter ship, with a few overarching, identifiable, memorable messages.

SukieTawdry

Agreed. When Dems start on all that sob sister stuff, I just tune out. It's lost all meaning.

JM Hanes

Sukie:

The woman who stepped up to the podium and said, "Wait till you hear what happened to me!" was a real high point, wasn't it?

glenda waggoner

Your hard work is much appreciated, Professor Diamond. Thank You.

Steve Diamond

Rick, I don't know the sources of the public matching funds. Sorry. Steve Diamond

Sara (Pal2Pal)

You know, Mitt Romney's father started working at age 11 in the sugar beet fields.

bgates

Steve Diamond! Let me add to the general acclamation for your work.

tina

It was clear to me that Obama is one mad SOB about the attacks on his patriotism. He defended his patriotism yet again tonight and he did it in a very mean voice.

JM Hanes

Wow. Even Larry King went ballistic when his guests had the temerity to suggest that 9/11 was being planned while Clinton was the Pres.

MayBee

I'm hoping so too, JMH. But McCain, much as I love him (and you know I do) is sure to deliver the most wooden speech ever.

I wish he'd break tradition and just speak, rather than give a speech.

Rick Ballard

Thanks again, Professor. That raises a new angle.

JM Hanes

Eric Cantor really is a smart guy. While Obama is tying McCain to Bush, Cantor is tying Obama to Pelosi. Hope he's being piped into Camp McCain, and I hope he gets more air time between now and November.

SukieTawdry

Really, JM. And when she was finished, I said "that's it? that's the best you can do?" Seriously, I'd like to tell her some of the things people close to me have gone through. Would make her life seem like a Princess Cruise.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Kathleen Kennedy-Townsend is an idiot. Another one who can not answer, where's the beef? in Obama's experience to be Prez

SukieTawdry

Maybe not, MayBee. I enjoyed McCain's speech in '04 tremendously. And he had the honor of instigating what I consider to be the moment Michael Moore lost his mojo and jumped the shark. Candidates generally rise to this occasion. Which is why it's all the more shocking that Obama didn't.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Next time they bring up McCain's age, he should say, "yeah, well I'm old enough to remember that all this tired old socialist agenda didn't work then and it won't work now."

Ann

Soylent,

I should have added how much I feel for you guys putting up with this carp. You know how much I admire you and your service and wish you didn't have to listen to a Presidential nominee telling you, you should of looked in more caves.

I heart you and so does JOM. We will fight the battle here while you save our asses there. Promise.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Eric Cantor is my 2nd choice for VP.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

ARLINGTON, VA – Tonight, the McCain campaign issued the following statement from Tucker Bounds, McCain 2008 spokesman, on Barack Obama’s acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention:

“Tonight, Americans witnessed a misleading speech that was so fundamentally at odds with the meager record of Barack Obama. When the temple comes down, the fireworks end, and the words are over, the facts remain: Senator Obama still has no record of bipartisanship, still opposes offshore drilling, still voted to raise taxes on those making just $42,000 per year, and still voted against funds for American troops in harm’s way. The fact remains: Barack Obama is still not ready to be President.”

JM Hanes

MayBee: It's a shame, and I think it's really a speechwriter problem. I suspect his speeches are not structured in a way that fits McCain's own rhythms naturally. I think he needs bullet points, not compound sentence, for example. He pauses too long over the commas, and leaves his own sentences seemingly disjointed. Things that may seem just fine if you're actually reading directly from a piece of paper in the office, are probably very different when you struggling to follow along on a teleprompter where you less aware of the flow from one idea to another.

clarice

A good speech writer must be well attuned to the normal speaking style of the person he's writing for and fit his words and thoughts to that style.

Elliott

Professor Diamond, thanks for your tremendous (and ongoing) efforts on this story and for the latest info on the funding.

bad

Professor Diamond

Thank you so much for your work and your input here. Your site is invaluable. Will you be posting the 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000 tax returns? I'd love to dig through them.

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