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August 03, 2008

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bio mom

Cecil Turner: I too have serious doubts about the FBI in this anthrax investigation. After the Libby thing, I no longer reflexively give the government investigators and prosecutors the benefit of the doubt. This guy could have been a mildly neurotic type who responded to the hounding of him in an irrational way and then killed himself. That is just as likely a scenario. There was no suicide note they say and no confession from him. Don't the guys who take their lives after being found out usually leave one? If it is, as reported, all circumstantial evidence, I will not condemn him. He is innocent until proven guilty, which now cannot happen.

bio mom

Gallup back to its weekend bumps for Obama. +3 for him today.

Porchlight

He does seem to do better early in the week. Gallup had him +8 last Monday and +6 the Monday before.

ben

The question is can you go from Messiah to mere mortal and back to Messiah again....if Obama has really lost some of his sheen, which is pretty much indisputable, one could argue that there is nothing really obvious that would bring it back, the gates have been breached so to speak...so to get back on track Obama would have to win on the issues and on ideas, a lot harder to do than running as the Chosen One. Will Obamabots faint when they hear him call for drilling from the Strategic Reserve if they didn't faint when he entered the room?

Captain Hate

"when your candidate is running a campaign that makes John Kerry's campaign look positively homespun and friendly by comparison, you need to change course (whatever air pressure your tires are operating under)."

When I was watching Ohbummer's ad with his *wonderful* ideas on how to deal with energy problems (1. Punishing the eeeeeeeevillll speculators; Harvard must be so proud 2. Mandating higher mileage standards; just wave a magic wand and the manufacturers will see the error of their profligate ways... 3. Fast-track alternative energy sources; blowing 4 years of dust off this clap-trap) I was reminded of Lurch pontificating on this same road to nowheresville in 2004 on Meet the Press. Although the awkward windsurfer was really fond of the word "biomass" because with his ponderous speaking style it provided a haughty facade that could make him look like somebody whose grades weren't worse than GWB's. Still, two more humility-challenged presidential candidates would be difficult to find.

glenda waggoner

Happy Day to you all!

Please start thinking happy thoughts my way.
All the weather charts, tracks, etc. show
EDOUARD traveling right on top of my house.
Of course, we just finished remodeling 6 months ago, so it's time to rough it up a bit. Here's hoping, it stays a tropical storm-we weather those squalls all the time.
But we have two large refineries making our gasoline nearby and speculators will use just a thought of them shutting down for a price hike. ugh.

If the power doesn't go out-I'll blog @ the
effects tomorrow a.m. as the storm comes in.

RichatUF

bio mom-

Ras has McCain up one with the floor falling out on Obama's independent support.

The Obama plan of selling off the light sweet and replacing it with sour makes sense in a progressive light. It would build gasoline stocks (using the SPR as a price control mechanism) because the light is easier to refine and replacing it with Venezuelan imports would keep Dictator Chavez happy. In short it is a stupid idea with short term impact which could get drilling off the front page-no wonder the Pelosi Democrats support it.

Joan

Re the Oklahoma company whose collapse may have affected oil prices, its name is SemGroup. If you are interested in the story, go to TulsaWorld.com. They have been following the affair since word leaked out about the problems. Yesterday the newspaper had an article about Tom Kivisto, the company's founder, as its lead story (plus his partners--they didn't seem to like them as much as they did Kivisto.)
Re the company's rise and rapid fall, I don't understand about hedge funds, buying ahead, commodities, derivatives, etc., so I won't comment. I read about the financial intricacies of various companies and come away puzzled sometimes.
Kivisto was a point guard on a championship KU team back in the 70s, and is respected and admired, and the sentiment in Tulsa and Oklahoma politics is the hope that the company and Kivisto will manage to right itself.
Anyway, if you are interested, I thought I'd post this.

hrtshpdbox

"The Rep group showing some spine on drilling has driven oil down below $120 (where it hit heavy resistance)."

Just to be a nudge, that would be "heavy support", but no matter - oil might very well be below 100 dollars a barrel by election day.

centralcal

It doesn't look too promising for Robert Novak. According to Drudge he retired and says his situation is "dire," with radiation and chemo therapy to follow.

anduril

Cecil, I don't know the truth about this anthrax investigation, however I cannot think of a reason to disbelieve the LATimes reporter:

Ivins had mixed spores shipped to Ft. Detrick from the Army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, a facility operated by the Battelle Memorial Institute in Ohio, a private contractor that performs top- secret work for the CIA and other agencies.

By cross-referencing the dates when those spores were received and handled at Ft. Detrick, the FBI sharply narrowed the list of government employees with possible access to the material.

Instead of trying to trace anthrax that could have come from perhaps dozens of sources, investigators became convinced that it had to have originated at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, or USAMRIID, located within Ft. Detrick, about 50 miles north of Washington.

"Now, all of a sudden, you can put a time frame on this material," said one of the people familiar with the evidence. "By mixing the material from the separate institutions, [Ivins] provided what became a signature."

With new analyses showing that the admixture of anthrax could not have come from anywhere in the world but Ft. Detrick, FBI agents plunged deep into Ivins' history.

...

Ivins' government work with the separate batches of dry powder anthrax was not widely known at USAMRIID. Two former top officials there told The Times in recent weeks that they had no idea until being contacted by a reporter that USAMRIID had received anthrax in either powder or wet form from Dugway or Battelle, whose own anthrax testing is done in Ohio.

The former officials noted that USAMRIID typically supplies live anthrax spores for use at the two outside facilities, not the other way around. As part of his government job, Ivins, a microbiologist, grew spores used for experiments, called "challenges," on monkeys, rabbits and other animals at USAMRIID. He also occasionally prepared spores, in liquid or frozen form, for shipment to Dugway and Battelle.

If I understand you correctly, you seem to be suggesting that

1. The LATimes reporter made this all up, or was duped by unreliable sources for unspecified reasons, and that

2. The FBI decided the whole investigation was simply a pain in the ass and used the suicide as a convenient way to shirk their responsibility.

I find both theses unconvincing.

I note that the WaPo article uses a few named but also many unnamed sources who support the FBI version of the case against Ivins. I speculate that several of the unnamed sources (for both articles) assisted the FBI/DOJ, and that is the reason that at this point they wish to withhold their names--the case is probably not closed yet.

Further, there is no information provided re Spertzel that would confirm that he was in a position to actually know the details of Ivins' work. If he had been, I presume he would have been involved in the investigation, as were some or all of the unnamed sources. It appears from the article that he was not--he doesn't assert that he told the investigators of his "expert opinion."

I'm in no position to say whether the FBI's case is conclusive, but I would want to find other arguments if I were concerned to refute it.

anduril

I should add that I am not a true believer in "profilers."

MayBee

That's a shame about Robert Novak.
What I loved about him was his willingness to embrace his own crankiness. He named his own book the Prince of Darkness.
I just love people that know themselves and can chuckle about the criticisms they receive.

MayBee

Good luck, Glenda!

Rick Ballard

Thanks, hrtspdbox. "Support" the floor, "resist" blowing the roof off.

I'm focused on the memetic warfare aspect - neither side is really using the EIA forecasts of production swinging to surplus for a bit (and perhaps a little more than "a bit" if Petrobras is playing hide the ball) as an explanation.

There's a similiar false meme developing concerning the rebates - "inflation ate it all up", when, in fact, the BEA noted that

Personal saving -- disposable personal income less personal outlays -- was $284.9 billion in the second quarter, compared with $35.1 billion in the first. The personal saving rate -- saving as a percentage of disposable personal income -- was 2.6 percent in the second quarter, compared with 0.3 percent in the first.
- precisely the expected outcome when the level of economic uncertainty is high. People pay down debt and sock money under the mattress, they don't dash out to the mall.

Danube of Thought

Is there a typo in those disposable income numbers?

I don't think Obama can go up. As we've seen, continuing exposure does him no good at all--witness his performance against Hillary in the late primaries--and he's going to get plenty of that in the next three months.

Bill in AZ

Semgroup lost $3.2B (that's *billion*) shorting oil over the last few months. A victim of reflexivity.

They own the propane company in my town, so it has received lots of local attention.

centralcal

Here's hoping everything blows over -- and not your house -- Glenda.

Rick Ballard

Is there a typo in those disposable income numbers?

Nope - It's straight from the BEA press release which all meme warriors use to shape their spears and arrows. If a Dem were in the WH, we'd be hearing about the 3% "current" GDP growth in Q2 rather than the 1.9% "real" growth rate.

centralcal

Bob Herbert sees "phallic" symbols, two of them in the racist celebrity ad.

LUN

What kind of drugs is he taking?

Bill in AZ

Yahoos News rotating random headline has variously blamed the $4.00 drop in oil on:

- weak economic data (that's a standard title, good for drops or increases)
- Obama drilling the strategic reserve
- weak dollar (also a standard for drops or increases.

No mention of Reps in congress (they wouldn't dare).

I'm waiting for the title where they attribute it to global warming. I'll screen shot that one. Should appear any minute now.

Captain Hate

A weak dollar causing a *drop* in the price of oil? Even Krugman's not that stupid.

Jane

glenda,

My thoughts and prayers will be with you! I will look forward to the storm missing you by a mile, and your ongoing reports tomorrow.

RichatUF

glenda-

I'll second those wishing you well. Hope the storm doesn't cause too much damage.

Barney Frank

Bob Herbert sees "phallic" symbols, two of them in the racist celebrity ad.

LUN

What kind of drugs is he taking?

Sounds like Viagra and Levitra, most likely.

GMax

Glenda

Not a hurricane yet, and may not ever become one. Still tropical depression can still cause some havoc. Stay inside so you dont get hit with flying debris, and send it on up to Dallas. We could use the rain and a break in the temps...

RichatUF

Bill in AZ-

The media is really flogging that it's Obama's campaign that was dropping the price-if only they can keep it up through November.

Porchlight

Best wishes, glenda! Will be waiting on your updates. I hope M. Edouard behaves!

Sue

Glenda,

If you get blown my way, I'll catch ya'!

Stay safe.

Sue

Gmax,

We had a birthday party for my grandson yesterday. It started on the patio, which at 12:00 noon was 100 degrees on the thermometer. We quickly moved indoors and the swimming party was delayed until shade from the trees, late afternoon, helped with the heat. The pool was like a sauna, though. What I noticed in headlines was the AGW aspect of the heat. As if Texas has never experienced 100+ degree temperatures in August before. The year my youngest daughter was born, 1980, we broke a record for 100+ days in a row. I can't imagine what the headlines would be today if the same thing happened again.

GMax

107 is hot even if its caused by the guys hiding behind the comet waiting their chance to conquer the Earth. And I dont want to swim in a 91 degree pool! send us some tropical depression rain the sooner the better.

Porchlight
I just love people that know themselves and can chuckle about the criticisms they receive.

I feel exactly the same (others in that group for me are Bush, Cheney, Rove and Limbaugh).

I have Novak's book on my desk right now. Some of the photos are really charming - he was quite handsome as a young man, in a Brando kind of way. I have a soft spot for him partly because he was one of the first journalists whose career I followed, when I was first discovering politics as a kid. I knew him, McLaughlin, and Buckley, chiefly from the programs my dad watched. The news of his cancer is very sad.

GMax

1980 I flew into Dallas from Kansas City on my way to change planes for an ultimate stop in San Antonio. One of my first times in Texas. The temp that day was 114 and those metal walkways from plane to terminal were microwave ovens and I was a Mrs Paul fishstick!

Rick Ballard

Rich,

Iran is making another stab at propping prices. No luck.

Glenda,

Best wishes. (Probably not necessary, Edouard appears to be surrendering already. No surprise there.)

Cecil Turner

Cecil, I don't know the truth about this anthrax investigation, however I cannot think of a reason to disbelieve the LATimes reporter. . .

As to the reporter, I presume he's telling the truth, but also profoundly ignorant. I don't have the requisite data either . . . but that's because the FBI isn't proffering it. And apparently neither does anybody else. Don't know if you recognize the names in that WaPo piece, but Spertzel and Adamovicz are world-class experts (they were some of the folks hand-picked to testify to Congress about the source of the anthrax way back when). If the FBI tests are so dispositive, it's hard to understand how those learned gentlemen could be so clueless. And when they complain about FBI tactics and shoddy evidence, I tend to give 'em a little extra weight.

There's also some history to consider. There were initial claims that the silicate in the samples indicated a very sophisticated process (argued against by Ken Alibeck, who said, apparently correctly, that it was a natural artifact) and hence had to come from a US lab. Then it was the Ames strain which indicated it had to be Hatfill or one of his buds. And now we have the mix thing, which leads to the same conclusion (and also matches the profile). A skeptic might believe they are working backwards to make the facts fit the theory, especially since, several years on, they really can't redo the evidence gathering. I'd also note they are heavily invested in the theory, even though the available evidence really doesn't support it. Maybe they do have some new super-secret method of fingerprinting lab samples that just happens to confirm their years-old suspicions, but it's surprising that the anonymous officials are smarter than the leading experts among the scientists.

I'm in no position to say whether the FBI's case is conclusive, but I would want to find other arguments if I were concerned to refute it.

It's impossible to refute vaporware. Several scientists said he couldn't have done it (or at least not undetected), but that's obviously not provable. But as long as the FBI doesn't share their evidence with the technical experts, it's pretty hard to get a good idea on the merits. And there's no doubt the FBI was getting a black eye from the case, nor do I believe they're above spinning this as a bit more dispositive than it actually is. In short, the burden of proof is on the FBI, and after the years-long stupidity--punctuated by the Hatfill debacle--they have a higher than usual bar to clear. I'd be a lot happier about it if they had some disinterested scientific experts (perhaps from the Ft Detrick types) look over their results. Because whatever they've got, we haven't seen it yet.

glenda waggoner

Heart to all of you! Just pray the power stays on so I don't have a hot flash and my dear husband of 39+yrs doesn't go outside and take pictures of flying debris. Our grandson will think it a great adventure if the candles come out.

PeterUK

Whilst it is hot in Texas they are freezing to death in Peru.Seemingly exceptional cooling isn't part of the narrative so it isn't making the MSM.

Sue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_United_States_heat_wave>Heat Wave 1980

...Texas, high temperatures exceeded 100 °F (38 °C) a total of 69 times, including a record 42 consecutive days from June 23 to August 3. Dallas/Fort Worth reached an all-time high on June 26 and 27, soaring to 113 °F (45 °C) on both days. In the northern hemisphere summer of 1980 in Dallas/Fort Worth, there were 29 days that either tied or broke records for those respective dates.

I was pregnant during all of those 69 times. My daughter was born at the end of September.

Sara

We don't have to wait for 100+ temps, we've been having them on and off for at least the last two months. However, even with temps over a hundred, it is still cooler than the last couple of years when the temps were 110+. Today it is a mild 101 degrees, with a welcome breeze.

Sara

Glenda, thoughts and prayers and a whole lot of good luck coming your way.

Sara

M.Simon, nice job. I've linked the Obama Be article on Pal2Pal.

Danube of Thought

I have very serious doubts that either the Republican congressional activity or the Obama nonsense has affected the price of oil at all. Very hard, if not impossible, to prove in any event, but that's just my hunch.

RichatUF

Rick-

Ahmadinejad is probably nervous about how much his cronies stole from the 75 billion they moved out of Europe to Asia a few weeks back. Stuff like that could be somewhat covered-up with revenues of 2.25 billion a week, but with a bit of a haircut on revenues and slowing sales-not so much.

He's probably texting Pelosi too about how much she has screwed up-the plan would have only worked if the US didn't get serious about drilling.

bad

M. Simon

Thanks for your article. Lots of food for thought their. I did laugh at the irony of rule #1 and lefties and Saddam.

RULE 1:"Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."

Saddam executed this rule perfectly using the leftist rule book and they either don't get it or are too dishonest to admit it.

bad

In my prayers Glenda!!

anduril

Cecil,

Of course the burden of proof is on the FBI--it always is. They haven't shared their evidence with me, and that's why I'm being cautious.

The question isn't whether "Spertzel and Adamovicz are world-class experts"--it's whether, as administrators, they knew or were even in a position to know everything that Ivins was up to. The FBI's claim appears to be that a lot of people were not in the know about that, and they seem to have shipping and handling documents to substantiate their claim--see the portion above that I quoted. Between experts in administrative posts saying we didn't use powdered stuff here, and shipping and handling documents showing that powdered stuff was received there, I'm gonna go with the documents.

My understanding is that the FBI went to some hew outside experts on this, who were far more expert than their own people and hadn't been previously consulted:

With the help of leading outside geneticists and a fresh look at the evidence by a new team of street-savvy investigators, the FBI concluded in recent months that only Ivins could reasonably have perpetrated the crimes.

Don't ask me where "street-savvy" entered into this, btw. That part sounds like BS to me.

Again, I have no dog in this fight. I'm just interested in what really happened.

bad

Just saw news footage of Bill Clinton responding to the question of whether or not Obama is ready to be president. He talked esoterically of "is anybody ever really ready to be president."

Pundits are claiming he damned with faint praise and said volumes with what wasn't said.

Other pundits are dismissing him as bitter and raging inside.

Bill in AZ

Obama: Drilling our strategic reserve... what an idiot, why doesn't he just go the next step and drill at the corner gas station. Saves all that refining.

RichatUF

DoT-

I have very serious doubts that either the Republican congressional activity or the Obama nonsense has affected the price of oil at all.

I'm just doing my part in cheerleading the GOP offensive. I'm a bit worried though if oil keeps dropping the movement to drill begins to wane and a year from now we are having the same arguments.

bad

Bill

Its a "brilliant" plan. Use all of our strategic assets and hope for a catastrophe that forces everyone to stop driving as much as they want and eating as much as they want. Barack won't be allow us to go back to our regular lives. All Hail the Obama Way.

RichatUF

Bill in AZ-

Here is Obama's energy speech, probably to be inoperative in about 2 weeks if his race speech and AIPAC speech are any indications.

I haven't read it.

ben

"Pundits are claiming he damned with faint praise and said volumes with what wasn't said.

Other pundits are dismissing him as bitter and raging inside."

Either interpretation its fine with me...either Obama is not qualified or Clinton supporters won't vote for him...

Bill in AZ

"...drill at the corner gas station."

oh, wait, my bad - that was his first, er, second, er, well, one of his proposals. Tax the oil companies "windfall" profits and give it to us to cover the next 4 months until oil comes down after the election - same as drilling at the corner gas station.

"cheerleading the GOP offensive"
The libs have a real tightrope to walk. If oil is high, it will trash the economy (well, it did during the Clinton years anyway). Too high, and even the muddle can figure out who is doing it and why. I 'spect finding the right range is the essence of the frantic texting going on between Pelosi, Soros, Ahmadinejad, Obama, et al

Danube of Thought

Well, I yield to no man in my support for the GOP insurgency, and I hope that voters aren't so shortsighted as to breathe a sigh of relief when the price of gasoline drops to $3.30 or so, as I expect it will do by mid-fall--i.e., by election day.

Measuring the effect of this, that or the other action on the worldwide price of oil or any other commodity is the province of econometricians, and all of the realistic members of that species know that what they do on matters of this kind is, in the final analysis, largely guesswork.

bad

Hot Air has a piece on Obama from 2005 saying that the srategic reserve should only be used in a genuine emergency. He reiterated that position on July 7th.

Hot Air LUN

bad

Um er uh badly worded

Should say has a piece pointing out Obama's 2005 position, not that the Hot Air piece is from 2005.

RichatUF

DoT-

...all of the realistic members of that species know that what they do on matters of this kind is, in the final analysis, largely guesswork...

Very true. The thing going around now is that it was a fund liquidation that caused the sell off and that is probably closer to the right answer. It comes down to: a lot of these commodities funds sprouted up in the last 2 years with strong price increases and a weak dollar. If some of the VSG's running these things decided to burn the midnight oil to stress test their funds with $100 bbl oil and a strenthening dollar taking the money now probably looks like the winning bet.

GMax

Sam postion he articulated in a speech in St. Louis on July 7th. Since prices of gas have come down in the three weeks since then, it appears the reason for the change was a look at his personal polling...

Porchlight

So for a donation of $25 or more, Team McCain will send you an Obama Energy Plan Tire Pressure Gauge, the same as the ones they handed out today at Obama's energy speech.

I did it. What the hell, I needed one anyway.

bgates

July? What is this "July"? It is August. It has always been August. Obama has always been the candidate of sensibly increasing fuel supplies, as he has always rejected Jeremiah Wright, as he has always opposed Israeli control over all of Jerusalem, as he has always supported NASA, as he has always supported NAFTA, as he has always known Petraeus would decrease violence in Iraq, as he has always known Iran poses a threat, forever and ever, amen.

Bill in AZ

Obamas energy speech - a bunch of socialist drivel from DKos and DU stitched together into something resembling coherence. It's the stitching that makes the press swoon. His speech-stitcher even stitched in global warming and melting glaciers.

- Drill the strategic reserve
- Drill the corner gas station
- Wave a wand and millions of "good, high paying jobs" will be created around biofuels, windmills, solar arrays, and battery operated cars.

I'm swooning - I didn't know it was so easy.

Thomas Collins

Concerning bad's report on WJC's remarks on Tire Pressure's fitness to be President, if that's all WJC said, I don't think WJC is angry; rather, I think WJC is signalling to the Supers that if they want WJC's help in Clingland in October, they'd best reverse course and nominate Hillary.

I don't think at this point the Supers can yank the rug out from under Tire Pressure. But I'll bet the SBRI (Supers' Buyer's Remorse Index) is approaching 1,000 on a scale of 1-10.

Danube of Thought

If BGates didn't exist, we would have to invent him, and that would be mighty hard to do.

Ranger

I'm a bit worried though if oil keeps dropping the movement to drill begins to wane and a year from now we are having the same arguments.

Posted by: RichatUF | August 04, 2008 at 04:30 PM

I had the same fear a but I'm not sure it will work like that. I am starting to get the feeling that $4 a gal. gas was so painful that unless the price goes down to $2 people will relive the experience every time they fill up, even though the price has come down a little. It broke the frog in warm water mentality of people. Rather than slowly just getting used to higher gas prices, they were shocked by the sudden rise. Now every time they are at the pump they relive that shock. So, just like the frog that jumps out of the pot if you raise the temp too fast, people have jumped out of their comfortable mindset.

ben

"I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."

- Barack Obama

Newsbusters has this quote from Him. When HE compares himself to Paris its ok. When others do it, they are racist.

Looks like team McCain had done their homework...and waited for all the Herberts to make asses of themselves before releasing the quote.

PeterUK

"So for a donation of $25 or more, Team McCain will send you an Obama Energy Plan Tire Pressure Gauge,"

I presume it is a talking tire gauge, I,um,always,er said ah,that your, um ,tire pressure was, er, too, ah, low".

centralcal


bad: I saw the Bill Clinton interview played on my lunch break. He looks terrible, but he also looks really angry (bitter) about Barry O!

And the estimable Bob Herbert, NY Times, not only sees phallic symbols, he thinks those phallic symbols are the Leaning Tower of Piza and the Washington Monument!!! (Uh, he does know Barry was in Germany, doesn't he?) I know AA was the subject yesterday, but . . . well, just saying.

anduril

Ranger, I agree. I think the argument is: Hey, do we want to go through this again? Can we think a bit ahead for a change? Let's drill!

PeterUK

""I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."

- Barack Obama,nee Parrack Obritney

anduril

Pisa. Not to be confused with pizza. :-)

centralcal

ohmygawd, I had just read someone joking that at least Herbert didn't call it the Tower of Pizza, and don't I go and put a z instead of an s.

And, although I'm Irish (mostly) I have been an inlaw in a very Italian family for decades.

Can I blame it on a Clarice-like typo, seeing she's in France and isn't here to whack me?

centralcal

Even more good news!!! An open letter to Obama from "leading" liberals per Geraghty:

"There have been troubling signs that you are moving away from the core commitments shared by many who have supported your campaign."

LUN

centralcal

And in other deranged lefty news, Mediabistro (via Page Six) is hearing that Tyra Banks will "pose" as Michelle Obama on the cover of Harper's Bazaar (in honor of spell check and Anduril, I should call it Harper's Bizarre).

LUN

GMax

OMG the names are a whos who of moonbats. Celebrity moonbats are us!

Tom Hayden
Phil Donahue
Katrina Van der Heuvel
Jane "Poodles" Hamsher
Jodie "Code Pinko" Evans
Juan Cole

Barney Frank

If BGates didn't exist, we would have to invent him, and that would be mighty hard to do.

Agreed. He's kind of like a slightly less manic (or perhaps more sober?) Hit and Run combined with a somewhat less cryptic Narcisco, which leads to some pretty entertaining posts.

Bill in AZ

heh heh - new rotating Yahoo News title:
"Oil prices dropping because threat from Eduardo eases"

Porchlight

Good grief, Studs Terkel, Gore Vidal and Howard Zinn, too. They brought out the old guard.

Geraghty calls these folks "liberals" but I would call them leftists. Not a real MOR crowd.

Patrick R. Sullivan

I was only able to stomach about half of Nancy Pelosi interviewed by Brian Lamb on C-SPAN last night, but either she is the dumbest Speaker ever, or a really good actress.

RichatUF

Bill in AZ-

Believe. It took what 6 hours to find the angle.

Obama lead the way of course in his speech: "Back then, we imported about a third of our oil. Now we import more than half. Back then, global warming was the theory of a few scientists. Now, it is a fact that is melting our glaciers and setting off dangerous weather patterns as we speak." [so saith Obama, in his Green Sermon to the Michigan State University Pilgrims this blessed day in Lansing].

RichatUF

I looked over the green sermon, not all the way through, and it really ranks up there with his 'this is the moment the oceans began to receed' speech.

bad

Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:

RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people."

I think that one speaks for itself in relation to the Obama campaign.

centralcal

Laughing
Until
Numb

Awwww - such a sad story, per Jake Tapper:

"Last night in Chicago, Marvin Nicholson, the national trip director for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, left Obama's birthday present in a taxicab."

But, then, get a load of the reason why - wait for it, HE WAS DISTRACTED! I kid you not!

"Nicholson also lost his suitcase in the incident, which occurred, he said, because he was distracted by the warm greetings of the hotel doormen."

Yep, those danged distractions that continue to plague the Obama campaign. Lost luggage and pricey gifts, because the Doormen DISTRACTED him!

kim

I believe Kivisto's Dad has the record for high school wins as a basketball coach somewhere in the Chicago area.
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kim

Something neither Pelosi not Obama, who have both called for releases from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, mention is that Cheney has been filling it up for the past several years, against criticism from the Democrats. This ought to be a big point had we a functioning press.
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parish

Cheney

Thats Hot!!

bad

O/T

For those who want to see the latest BO BC rumors LUN.

Warning: Scary Larry is mentioned
dodododododo: Bill Clinton is Cryptic

Enjoy

narciso

The man's stupidity, or shamelessness knows no bounds; I mean Barry Sunshine. You don't
draw down oil from the SPR unless there is a supply disruption; like say Katrina. Is the rioting cannibals and Kanye West the only thing they remember about Katrina. He thinks you can draw down the SPR and replace it like the idol in the opening of Raiders without the "Boulder of speculation"
being let loose. Not happening brother.

The other amusing instance was Bob Herbert,
who is a random leftist cliche generator with a by line; on Morning Joe (Soros-Morning) complaining thatMcCain's "Messiah" Obama ad had subliminally 'phallic images' in it. Which ones you ask, how about the Siegeschule "Victory" column,where Obama spoke. Which celebrates the glorious victories over the French (okay) and the Austrians and the Danes (come on now). Sometimes a 'cigar is just a cigar' but you couldn't make this situation up if one tried. "Impaled by their own symbolism"

bad

"Impaled by their own symbolism"

LOL

Trying to get rid of the visual...(shudder)

Bill in AZ

bad, that whole thing smells like Scary Larry - just like the whole fake Niger documents smelled like Scary Larry.

Ann

After Barry Sunshine's speech today, I think we need to form a Citizens Committee for the Right to Drill for Oil. We then gather on the Capitol Steps or the Dark Congress and raise our car keys.

All together now:

"I'll give you my car keys when you take them from my cold, dead hands!"

bad

I'm in the tank for parania on this issue. I wonder if these are "TANG memos with a twist" created by Obama's camp for an October surprise to scream dirty trick.

What better idiot to use than scary larry?

Sue

bad,

I think Scary is really a Hillary supporter. His anomosity towards Obama is pretty genuine. Sort of like his anomosity towards the Magnificent Bastard is genuine.

Sue

What better idiot to use than scary larry?

Oh yeah, I meant to totally agree with you on this statement.

centralcal

bad: I have always thought there was something hinky (to quote JM Hanes) about the whole COLB. But, that said, I no longer trust any of the so called experts -- if there is any there, there, I suppose it will come out someday.

bad

He is totally in the tank for Hillary(being a *ahem* conservative CIA expert and all.) If I wanted to blame something on Hillary he is exactly the loon to whom I would feed bogus but terribly hush hush carp.

Sue

bad,

Oh. I get it now. I thought you meant he was working for Obama.

kim

bad, that's very interesting about the COLB. I'll bet TechDude has hired a taster. Particularly poignant, it the statement, by one of the finest parsers of all time, about 'anybody qualifying under the Constitution'. No wonder the Clintons have been lying doggo.
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ben

Even Zogby has McCain ahead 42-41....are the 17% that are missing hidden Obama supporters? Arent Obama supporters much prouder and excited about their candidate? If that's the case fewer should be reticent about expressing their preferences....

M. Simon

Sara,

Thank you!

You will be pleased to note (I am) that Instapundit picked it up as well.

My thinking is that McCain will be gaining 1/2 point a day until the D Convention. If the D brown shirts come out for that one it will be all over. Not just for Obama but the whole D party.

The PUMAs will be throwing a monkey wrench in from the D side. And they are coming out with a video about the D caucus' in Texas.

Caucus in Texas [video]

bad

Kim

Did you follow links to see if Clinton's statement is legit? I just read quickly and only linked to Atlas Shrugs to see if she really was claiming inside knowledge.

See what happens when you call Bubba a racist...

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