And What About This "Greatest Generation" Stuff, Anyway?

Betsy Newmark and Jules Crittenden catch the WaPo in an absurd "fact-check".  Maybe the WaPo should offer an "opinion-check" feature next time.

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[kim]

We'll start the war from right here.
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[M. Simon]

Jules Likes Bikinis

And he also has a few nasty words for the Guardian. And pictures. Girls in bikinis. Cribbed from my 4th of July Bikini edition.

[the dilligent fact checkers at the Washington Post]

On D-Day, Eisenhower was 54, but the average age of a serviceman was 23. It goes beyond a stretch to say they were all part of the same generation, and if McCain uses terminology like "Greatest Generation", it's probably feigned ignorance masking contempt for veterans. There, we said it.

[bgates]

Incidentally, I tried to do a little fact-checking of my own this morning after a NRO article mentioned something about "Rules for Radicals" that sounded hyperbolic.
Well, I looked it up. Get a load of this:

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins - or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer.
-Saul Alinsky

[clarice]

The WaPo is just practicing for Sarah.as to whom even her "if, ands and buts" will be characterizeded unfairly.

[bio mom]

I wish McCain would get new ad people. I have to admit that Obama has better ads out now. I am in the Philly market so he has saturated it. He has those ads where he looks you in the face and calmly tells you what he is going to do for you. Very policy oriented and professiona. I think those kind of ads work best and have not seen any from McCain. Too bad McKinnon decided to sit out this election. His ads for Bush were superlative.

[Fisher]

*** morning polls ***

The never blinking Battleground still shows Mac at +2. God bless 'em, but is it more accurate than the others?

Rass shows Mac +1 from yesterday, -5 cummulative.

[bio mom]

Battleground uses the Dem/Repub ratios from the previous election and it will not poll on Fridays and Saturdays due to inaccuracy of responses on those days. Also, they are balanced between two firms, one R and one D, who together decide. It is one of the best polls out there and if you need ot rely on a poll, I think all are a waste, they are one to choose.

[clarice]

*characterized*

[Barney Frank]

I am in the Philly market so he has saturated it.

One of the blessings of living in an uncontested state like California is I have yet to actually see a political ad for the general election.

[MayBee]

WaPo's Dodd didn't even mention 300 in his fact-check. All those magnificent abs and yelling "We Are Sparta!" surely helps it to qualify as one of the greatest invasions of all times.
What kind of lame historian is he?

[hrtshpdbox]

I'm not going to pay attention anymore, it's too depressing. Some Al Qaeda operative or outer-space alien must've infiltrated McCain's inner circle a couple weeks back and messed with everyone's minds; nobody's acting right. Where the heck are the 527s that should be Swiftboating (definition: alerting the public to truths) Obama? But, hey, if Obama wins, it's not like the nation can't survive a liberal as President; the last one as liberal as Obama was....was.... um, nobody ever. Last time out didn't Alec Baldwin threaten to move to France if Bush won? This time, with Sarkozy in France and Obama potentially in the U.S., that's starting to sound like a move that makes sense.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

This time, with Sarkozy in France and Obama potentially in the U.S., that's starting to sound like a move that makes sense.

Food's good.

[PeterUK]

"On D-Day, Eisenhower was 54, but the average age of a serviceman was 23. It goes beyond a stretch to say they were all part of the same generation, and if McCain uses terminology like "Greatest Generation", it's probably feigned ignorance masking contempt for veterans. There, we said it."

Hi freaked alaskan.Your usual half baked assumptions.Most definitely McCain has the greatest respect for all veterans.
Now run along and play with your genital warts.

[bgates]

Steady on, PUK. That was me.

[Karl]

Why would you expect anything less from Michael Dobbs? he's the same guy who blamed McCain for relying on Washington Post stories about Franklin Raines.

[PeterUK]

bgates,
You have been handling trolls without gloves.Be fair leave something for the imbeciles to say.

[Verner]

Oh Man. Rush is playing the audio of that "Viral" youtube of the democrats on the banking committee defending fannie and Franklin Raines!

GO RUSH!

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

McCain is on fire in Ohio right now.

[Cecil Turner]

Not much argument Dobbs is dumber'n dirt.

But I'm not sure I liked Newmark's bottom line much better:

McCain wanted to use Ike in his unsubstantiated crusade against Chris Cox.

Although I'd admit it's a stretched analogy, the idea that "unsubstantiated crusade" properly describes a call to fire the responsible agency head after a failure to execute adequate oversight (at least somewhat exacerbated by a decision to use "voluntary" regulatory program . . . though in his defense he claims he didn't have the authority to make it mandatory) is risible.

[The Mighty Quinn]

The Normandy invasion involved far more aircraft, far more vessels, far more vehicles, far longer supply lines (back to the USA) and involved moving men and material a much father distance to the initial point of combat than the German invasion of Russia. The allies also lost far, far fewer men than the Germans invading Russia.

Depends on your meaning of "great."

[hrtshpdbox]

"McCain is on fire in Ohio right now."

Unbelievable, that's just about what I expected with the way things have been going. Oh, wait... you don't mean it literally.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Oh, wait... you don't mean it literally.

No, I meant he was better than I've ever ever ever seen him. And the crowd was going wild for him and even wilder for Sarah.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

You know he was effective because within seconds smarmy Bill Burton was on TV calling McCain a liar.

[sym]

"Great meaning large or immense/
We're using it in the perjorative sense!"

[Pofarmer]

Is there any video of McCain in Ohio???

Just another aside. I talked to a seed dealer friend of mine this morning. He asked me what I'd been doing and I said, "talking politics", which I had been doing with another conservative at one of the local implement dealerships over coffee. Anyway, he says "Oh, man, that's never very pleasant" and I said half jokingly, "Well, it great when the other person agree's with you!!" Anyway, we visited a little more, and he said, "Ya know, I've never voted for anything other than a Democrat for President, but the more I find out about Obama the less I trust him. I just can't vote for the guy." I was kinda floored. I made a joke about voting for "Palin and the old white haired guy" and he kind of started in about Palin "Never having done anything, and lying about the bridge to nowhere." I kind of lightly explained the bridge to nowhere, and pointed out that as Governor of Alaska she had got one of the largest(maybe the largest) pipeline project in the U.S. going. Don't know. I don't know what he thinks totally about McCain/Palin. Maybe the debate tonight really CAN make a difference. I was surprised that the bad stuff about Obama was getting through the MSM filter.

[超声波清洗设备]

I just can't vote for the guy." I was kinda floored. I made a joke about voting for "Palin and the old white haired guy" and he kind of started in about Palin "Never having done anything, and lying about the bridge to nowhere." 不饱和聚酯树脂设备
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[kim]

I even wonder, Pof, of there isn't some sort of effect happening like the distrust is so wide and poorly directed that it may even be effecting the polls. You know, not a Bradley effect per se, but still a perception to be wary of the poll-taking, as representative as it is of an opinion forming force. Gosh, I hope so; I'd hate to depend on poor sampling as an explanation for the recent polls. People are supposed to be going for the known, not the unknown, as more is known.
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[Bud Norton]

"Say all you want about Barack Obama, but I'll be d-d if I will sit here and listen to you insult Hitler and Stalin." -- Washington Post