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September 11, 2008



Would these have been the 'lost years' he spent with the rich, white, live-in girlfriend?


Would these have been the 'lost years' he spent with the rich, white, live-in girlfriend?


Whoa! Anything to support that?

baked alaska

Palin's town used to bill victims for rape kits

WASILLA, Alaska — In 2000, Alaska lawmakers learned that rural police agencies had been billing rape victims or their insurance companies $500 to $1,200 for the costs of the forensic medical examinations used to gather evidence. They quickly passed a law prohibiting the practice.

According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor. When it was signed, Wasilla's police chief expressed displeasure.



This Obama, the one with gaping holes in his record, is the Obama I know.

BTW, Intrade has McCain ahead in trading 51 to 47. First time I have seen him ahead. It means people actually investing in the results now think the odds favor McCain.


Ok well there is some connection here, not sure what -

Jean Rudd-Bolin
Married to Lionel Bolin? Retired Chicago lawyer?
Both Campaing contributors for Obama For America?
Seems like a lot of googly connections to funds and programs for children?

Some conncection here -http://www.openlands.org/reports/OpenlandsAR2004.pdf

This one says Jean Rudd, Lionel Bolin, William Ayers and Berndette Dohrn? Might already have touched on this one?



"According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor."

Nice example of a sentence that purports to mean something but if you read it it means absolutely nothing.

"When it was signed, Wasilla's police chief expressed displeasure."



Baked Alaska - Go away unless you have facts to report.

BTW - During the four years of Sarah Palin's mayorship until the law changed in 2000 there were 4 rapes in Wasilla. Why don't you and your goon squad track down the victims, find out how much they paid and start a pool to pay them back. It might be hard because Wasilla actually billed their insurance companies.


"He wrestled with his racial identity, and one of the casualties was his year-long relationship with a wealthy white girlfriend. 'I pushed her away,' he wrote."
New York Daily News 1/14/07


As I understand it from another board there weren't even any rapes in Wasilla when Palin was mayor so the policy--if it existed--was (a) mandated by state laew and (b) not exactly on anyone's radar.


Help please--

Respecting Treacher's wonderful post noting Axelrod's other business which specializes in astroturfing--I recall a blog a few days ago tracing some O astroturfing to O's Fight the Smears site..Does anyone recall that or similar proof that O's team was engaged in that?


Obama "wrestled with his racial identity, and one of the casualties was his year-long relationship with a wealthy white girlfriend."
"Obama's Lost Years"
New York Daily News
Jan.14, 2007


Baked Alaska and Army Mom most certainly seem to me to be members of the Axelrod astroturf team.
Let's quit mucking about the small stuff--Get Axelrod and his minions and expose them for the smear merchants they are.


Got a link, Arturo?


Sorta on topic, sorta off -

Look at this shit from the Weather Underground: (Mark Rudd and BillAyers are part of this interview)

"INTERVIEWEE: What we wanted to do here was deliver the most horrific hit that the United States government had ever suffered on its territory. We wanted to light it up. Our slogan was bring the war home, and we really wanted to give the United States and the rest of the world a sense that this country was going to be completely unlivable if the United States continued in Vietnam, and that was the goal of this group.

TODD GITLIN: I think what has to be stared at is that they brought themselves, they were not brought, they brought themselves to that point, to the point of which they were ready to be mass murderers. This is mass murder we’re talking about. They came to this conclusion which is the conclusion that was come to by all the great killers, whether Hitler or Stalin or Mao, that they have a grand project for the transformation and purification of the world. And in the face of that project, ordinary life is dispensable. They joined that tradition.

Mark Rudd speaks a bit of his Columbia days - how radical it was.

I have to wonder if Obama keeps it quiet because of the company he kept there.


Obama really had a extensive biography for 1979-1983, but it just disappeared in the the wormhole created by that big bang experiment. Disco is also rumored to have, somehow disappeared, leaving all of us who rember the late 70s oddly relieved and much less ashamed.


Oops - let me correct myself by saying Wasilla had 4 Sexual Assaults - nothing to prove they were actual rapes -

Danube of Thought

It's pretty clear that during those years Obama was wacked out on LSD. The danger is that, should he reach the oval office, he'll suffer a flashback that will cause him to unleash a nuclear Armageddon. At least that's what I'm hearing...


Here, clarice.

Who's Behind Anti-Palin Smear Site?


Wayne A. Root, Barr's Libertarian running mate and BO's Columbia/polysci classmate, has challenged Obama to release his Columbia grades. Root on Obama:

Root: [I was} Class of '83 political science, pre-law Columbia University. You don't get more exact than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, 20th reunion, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! Who was he, and five years ago, nobody even knew who he was.


Here, Clarice.

Who's Behind Anti-Palin Smear Site?

Bill in AZ

It's pretty clear that during those years Obama was wacked out on LSD.

That's why he appears so "thoughtful". Crossfiring synapses.

Chris Thorne

Even more than that, Root has offered a one million dollar prize if Obama releases his Columbia transcripts and test scores. Payable to Obama or, should that seem gauche, to the charity of Obama's choice. Think of how much "community organizing" Obama could get done with that!

Of course the real reason why Obama will not release those transcripts and LSAT scores is that they would make it incontrovertibly clear that he would not have been admitted to Harvard Law School on academic merit alone. And that the beneficient, mysterious hand of Khalid al-Mansour was determinative in Obama's attaining admission to HLS.



Thanks Extraneus!!


Hmmm. I don't see a Jean Rudd/Mark Rudd connection - Mark Rudd was pretty much gone from Chicago in the 80's.....

But Jean Rudd is connected to Ayers/Dohrn via the "grants" programs.


I can imagine young Barry viewing Being There (1979) and Zelig (1983) and having an epiphany.


DebinNC -- I read that piece in Reason by Wayne Root. I think it's possible that Obama graduated Columbia and avoided everyone's attention. I just don't see how he did it and had a sufficient resume to be accepted at Harvard Law, affirmative action or not.

Very strange.


Didn't Fox report that Barry fasted one day/week during his years at Colombia? Is that in his book?


Clarice: No longer on Daily News site. But here's a reference link and full text:



In response to Corsi's book, Media Matters quotes from Dreams">http://mediamatters.org/items/200807310003">Dreams of My Father:

From Dreams From My Father (Page 120):

"When Sadik lost his own lease, we moved in together. And after a few months of closer scrutiny, he began to realize that the city had indeed had an effect on me, although not the one he'd expected. I stopped getting high. I ran three miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years, I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry. Whenever Sadik tried to talk me into hitting a bar, I'd beg off with some tepid excuse, too much work or not enough cash."


More on his roommate Sadik:

In “Dreams from My Father,” he talks of having a Pakistani room-mate when he moved to New York, a man he calls Sadik who “had overstayed his tourist visa and now made a living in New York’s high-turnover, illegal immigrant work force, waiting on tables.


Whwere's that journal of daily reflections and sucky poetry? Or is that just literary flair?


Well near as I can tell the circle is

Bambi-Community Organizer
Jean Rudd-Community Organizer Fundraiser
William Ayers-Community Organization
Bernadette Dohrn-Community Organization
Mark Rudd-Dipwad Loser

All just "people in the 'hood".

Maybe they all just smoked dope and snorted coke toegther or something. Hmmm. I wonder who his drug dealer was. The one that he didn't trust to get him heroin?


Remember when Corsi was asking those questions? Maybe it was a drug ring? Maybe that's why his autobiography is so ridiculously trite when he talks about drugs.

No one that contemplates shooting up heroin thinks about the "air bubble, all shiny and round like a pearl" if they shot up heroin. He is such a bullshitter. Something is just not right.


Thanks arturo O.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Are his Occidental records available, what about friends from there?


Info from his Occidental time and an extended except from Dreams of My Father about his coming to NY. It's hard to believe he was lauded for this book, or that his claims are taken by so many as true.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

"He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he'd become "one of those freaks you see on the streets around here." "

What conferences? Who was running them?

Charlie (Colorado)

Baked, that one is kinda sorta right --- not complete, poorly reported, but has a germ of truth. Until the law was passed, Wasilla billed the victim's insurance company, and if the victim had no insurance, absorbed the cost.

This, by the way, is also the policy in at least Missouri and North Carolina.

Sara (Pal2Pal)


Sarah Palin Investigators Set Up ‘Tip-Line’

Charlie (Colorado)

Oh great. With the care they're using on checking rumors right now, that should give them *lots* of "scandals" to cover.

I think we're gonna need a bigger boat.


I don't think they could get away with those kind of shenanigans in the South where some degree of chivalry still exists. Mrs. Don Fowler's rapid retreat yesterday is a case in point. When I see these sort of stories, I feel disconnected from most of the country.

Charlie (Colorado)

I don't think they'll get away with it in Alaska for long either. The arrival thing last night attracted 3000 people --- which doesn't sound so great until you realize that there's only about 80,000 people in the whole county.

Rick Ballard


It's not really a bad thing at all. It allows people who are interested in Obama's life, say his time at Columbia, to trace out allegations that he paid his way by dealing crack. I seriously doubt that anything will come of trying to run down allegations that he dealt drugs on any kind of regular basis but if Team Obama wants to put up a hot line then perhaps an Obama Tips Line is in order?

Boy those guys are dumb.


A quote from Obama's first book struck me as odd...

"Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me."

...maybe I don't know enough about Malcolm X to understand what Obama meant?


Thanks, Deb.
I think fasting once a week is pretty serious stuff.
But then, I think fasting for 4 hours is pretty serious stuff.

Jim aaron

I read a blog of a person that worked with Obama at a NYC Financial Newsletter publisher. Obama mentions working there in one of his books, but the blogger said most of what Obama claimed in the book was either B.S. or highly embellished. About 4 0r 5 other employees of the Publisher posted comments and agreed with the Blogger, many thought him to be somewhat strange.

Charlie (Colorado)

jim, we would (I think I can speak for most here, baked alaska and leo perhaps excluded) love to see that blog. Any chance you could find a link?


Obama's Columbia years are pretty mysterious, as as you say, and it is quite surprising that that period of "intense study" is barely mentioned by Obama's close to 1000 pages confessionals. Most likely is that Obama during that age (see his transition from Barry to Barack), was a pretty radical figure on the 3rd World/Marxist/Afro-American lines, past a bit uncomfortable for the cozy Whole Foods type he's doing now. Remember, in the 80-s, although we were only a few years before the crash of the Soviet Union/warsaw Pact, the African left movement was at its peak (N'Konmo, Angela Davies, Mugabe, Mengistu, FRELIMO, etc., etc.)
As far as Obama's Columbia thesis (or essay, how do you want to call it), its subject was pointing exactly in this direction: "North-South relationships during post-colonial period", piece which without being mighty clever contains much incendiary rhetoric which would make many uncomfortable today - as I got it, the thesis has as motto Susan Sontag's line "The white race is the cancer of the world" (Sontag had this in one of her crappy essays in the Partisan Review, in the late 60-s).
So, no wonder Obama, now coming to closure from Barack to Barry and paying piano lessons for his daughters, is leary of having that early effort of political ratiotinating made public - a few copies of the thesis float around, and might make for some "Killian papers" fodder later in the campaign.

Charlie (Colorado)

Whwere's that journal of daily reflections and sucky poetry? Or is that just literary flair?

Bad, just to be fair, my journals of daily reflections and incredibly bad poetry from about the same time are long since lost.

Thank God.


Hey y'all, ABC's website has teasers of the Palin interview. See Hot Air for discussion.

Open thread: Palin on ABC; Update: Gibson distorts Palin’s Iraq prayer


Excerpts of Palin w/ Charlie Gibson today


JustTruth101 at HotAir:

"McCain better have a videographer there taping the whole thing so he can make ads showing what was ACTUALLY said in context."

Amen to that.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

From those two excerpts, sounds like she is having Gibson for breakfast, lunch, dinner and her midnight snack.

Patrick R. Sullivan

Obama has bigger problems than his lost years. He's lost Semi-Daily Journal commenter--and loyalist Dem--anne:

The wonder of how a woman is changing the nature of American politics, causing selected Democrats who were only pounding another woman, a Democrat, a month ago to become frantic beyond Abbott and Costello. "Hey, Abbott." What a lone Republican woman has wrought.

Who could have dreamed of such woman power, first a Democratic woman, second a Republican woman?

I love it when men get so frantic.
Posted by: anne September 09, 2008 at 09:21 AM


September 9, 2008

Clinton Stumps for Obama, but With Little Fire at Palin By PATRICK HEALY

Advisers to Barack Obama said Hillary Rodham Clinton was their best surrogate to counter the Republican ticket’s new drive to win over women.

[Oh, wondrous brave irony.]

Posted by: anne September 09, 2008 at 09:23 AM

Any bets on who is the next to be thrown under the bus by Prof. DeLong?

Gabriel Sutherland

Didn't Barack give a speech against the Iraq War before there was an Iraq War at an event organized by International ANSWER in Chicago?

Jumping into the wayback machine you get to experience all sorts of hilarity. Most of all, the press coverage at the time doesn't even mention Barack Obama. Nobody knew this guy until he put his hat in the ring for the '04 Dem IL Senate primary race.

David Simpson, 43, marched with his wife Ines, their two young sons and another 9-year-old. It was the boys' first demonstration.

"We thought we would indoctrinate them into some political activism early," Simpson said. "Just like my wife's and my own parents did in the '60s."

Kind of like, oh, David Axelrod and the Axelrod Communist family in NYC.

Dan S

(APRIL 12-14, 2002)
The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art __51 Astor Place, New York




Do you have a reference that Obama's Columbia thesis was "North-South relationships during post-colonial period"?

That sounds like a subject of a History major. BHO's major was political science. It has been reported earlier that his thesis was titled; "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament". LUN


There is absolutely no truth whatsoever in the rumour that the missing year of Barrack Hussein Obama was spent working in a transvestite lap dancing club.

Dan S

Found an article on it too.



Obama's resume has more holes than a Swiss cheese. Disturbing.....

Gabriel Sutherland

Also in the wayback machine, Barack Obama didn't even mention his CAC experience while running for the US Senate in Illinois. It's left out of his bio.

Sara (Pal2Pal)


Good Lord! And now does anyone believe he didn't bump into Ayers in NYC?

Gabriel Sutherland

Whoa. I actually found Barack Obama mentioning his work with the CAC.

Currently a senior lecturer specializing in constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School, Obama has served on the boards of some of Chicago's leading foundations and chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a $50 million philanthropic effort to reform the public schools.

Start the tally at: ONE.

Gabriel Sutherland

Between June 22, 2003 and August 7, 2003, Barack Obama changed his biography on his campaign site and started noting the CAC work.

You have to ask what staff changes were made during that period that led to a rework of the bio.

M. Simon

No one that contemplates shooting up heroin thinks about the "air bubble, all shiny and round like a pearl" if they shot up heroin. He is such a bullshitter.

May I suggest you read Wm. Burroughs "Junkie".

M. Simon

Or the Lou Reed song "Heroin"

M. Simon

Lou Reed "Heroin"

I dont know just where Im going
But Im goin to try for the kingdom if I can
cause it makes me feel like Im a man
When I put a spike into my vein
Then I tell you things arent quite the same

When Im rushing on my run
And I feel just like jesus son
And I guess I just dont know
And I guess that I just dont know

I have made very big decision
Im goin to try to nullify my life
cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the droppers neck
When Im closing in on death


having lived in NYC in the early to mid 70's and having seen the needle and the damage done, I would hold back on any allegations, references, allusions, etc to drug use by the candidate.....people do some really stupid things, and it's hard to be a saint in the city.

but we just don't know. Consorting with junkies is a very harsh reality, and it would seem that Mr. Obama has worked pretty hard to keep his nose and record clean. The lack of a narrative is deeply puzzling, but so is a lot of his career...

leave the smears and insinuations to the other side...if what they have tried to tar Palin with is all they've got, then it will all fizzle and they will look like the fools they are.


RE: Publius: "misanthropicus,Do you have a reference that Obama's Columbia thesis was "North-South relationships during post-colonial period"?
That sounds like a subject of a History major. BHO's major was political science. It has been reported earlier that his thesis was titled; "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament".

Publius, you are right - but that increases the mystery regarding Obama's thesis, that is, his graduation effort at Columbia was reported by some papers as
A) the "North-West" title I produced, and
by the other as
B) the title you quote - so we are in obscurity here.
As far as the major issue, the way it used to be at Columbia during that period, the degree actually was in international relations, but described as a "concentration" field rather than a major.
Sorry for ambiguity, but when it comes to Obama, we're are dealing with holograms.



Sarah Palin Investigators Set Up ‘Tip-Line’"

We should all call in with hot tips for them to investigate. Like there is this Eskimo in the Aleutians that saw Sarah Palin _______________________________!


Interesting nobody has seen RuPaul and Obama at the same time.

Dan S

I did, and it was UGLY!

J Verner


Interesting article from the NATION:


Don't know if ya'll have read it yet, but it does provide a bunch of familiar names, like Thomas Good (secretary) Bruce Rubenstein (former weatherman) Mark Rudd and Manning Marable. "La Dorhn" is also involved, and according to a few web pages I've seen, so is Ayers.

Movement for a Democratic Society is a nonprofit under MDS Inc. Board members include Tom Hayden, Angela Davis and Noam Chomsky.

Oh, and Obama just called for the return of ROTC to Columbia U. TOOOOO RICH!!!!!


As I have been saying, my spidey feeling has been that Ayres first met Obama in New York and maybe saw some 'messiah' potential in him, sending him to Chicago to get street cred and has been paving his rise to the nomination.
In researching Ayres, he's gone mainstream respectable but still the radical who hates Capitalistic America. He loves the messianic leaders who come to power by 'a democratic revolution stirring up the downtrodden' i.e. Venezuela and Bolivia. In his view, Capitalistic democracy (selfish America)= racism and social injustice should be replaced by 'Participatory Democracy' demanded by the populace in which a new government nationalizes all natural resources & commerce in order to benefit the people. Yeah, right.
Obama is not all that brilliant but charisma makes him a useful pawn.

J Verner

SWarren, of course that's what happened.

But make no mistake, there's nothing about Ayers that's mainstream--as the old but new Movement for a Democratic Society (a bunch of arthritic ex weathermenSDSers/marxist professors who "mentor" the youngsters of the new and improved SDS to go out and throw rocks...er I mean mobilize direct action against the man.)

By the way, I read that under his typical white middle class clothes, Ayers' wrinkled frame sports over a dozen tats...ewwww gross. Wonder if he has Che over his heart, or maybe one of those clinched fists.


Here is the blog talking about Bama's first job:






First one was angled brackets (not showing)

Second was straight. Let me try curly and regular parens:




Ryan Lizza, July 21, 2008 The New Yorker: LUN

“When I started organizing, I understood the idea of social change in a very abstract way,” Obama told me last year. “It was to some extent informed by my years in Indonesia, seeing extreme poverty and disparities of wealth and understanding sort of in a dim way that life wasn’t fair and government had something to do with it. I understood the role that issues like race played and took inspiration from the civil-rights movement and what the student sit-ins had accomplished and the freedom rides.

“But I didn’t come out of a political family, didn’t have a history of activism in my family. So I understood these things in the abstract. When I went to Chicago, it was the first time that I had the opportunity to test out my ideas. And for the most part I would say I wasn’t wildly successful. The victories that we achieved were extraordinarily modest: you know, getting a job-training site set up or getting an after-school program for young people put in place.”

I don't think Obama has plans so modest as to use US government to make life "fair" for US citizens. He intends to "share" with the rest of the world.

Last year Obama told Lizza his accomplishments as a community organizer were "extraordinarily modest." Now he is extraordinarily miffed that his time as a community organizer is not regarded with sufficient gravitas.



I posted a link making visual aid here: Hotlinks Cheat Sheet

S Knight

Yes. The "missing years" phenomenon is deeply disturbing, and serves a one of the most damning indictments of the media I have ever seen (the same media who are so, so eager to "vet" Sarah Palin to the bone).

I think an additional reason why these years are so radioactive are the numerous facts of his life that would point toward his status as a self-identifying Muslim--possibly even one with radical sympathies.

This issue has been taken off the table and consigned to the realm of "kookery" by the MSM, but I have yet to hear a word about his Muslim roommates or the three weeks he spent in Pakistan in 1981, discussed here: http://pakistaniat.com/2008/09/01/barak-obama-pakistan/


Obama's Plumbers

It seems more than coincidence that Obama, as a 33 year-old junior lawyer at a modest Chicago law firm, was then brought onto the CAC board as chairman, despite the prominence of other members that included two university presidents. In a September 10 New York Times article on Obama and education that mentions Ayers and depends upon Rolling as an informant, one of the presidents, Stanley O. Ikenberry of the University of Illinois, remembered about the choice of Obama as chair, "It was unusual: here you had a person trained in the law chairing a board on school reform."


I suspect, S. Knight, that that is being withheld until later in the campaign. I'm pretty sure the Republicans have investigated that trip to Pakistan, and despite the fact that the Press has given us nothing about his Columbia years, I'll bet someone has investigated it.

What about the woman he 'pushed away'. Won't hers be an interesting voice, if my guess is correct.



Thank you very much for that link to Obama's Plumbers.

Gabriel Sutherland

WARNING: The Human Events/John Batchelor story is based in HYPOTHETICAL QUOTES. The story needs to be corrected, but the corrections will deny the story its primary theme.

Steve Diamond declined to be interviewed for Human Events. Human Events published their story anyway. This is a bad error on Human Events behalf.

Global Labor & Politics is currently closed to public access. You can read Professor Diamond's post on his RSS FEED.

Pass this around. The Human Events story could very well bury the CAC story due to this error.


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