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September 05, 2008

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GMax

How virtually open minded of you!

Jane

Maryanne Marsh is spouting the democrat talking points:

1. McCain of 2008 is not the McCain of 2000. He is now McBush.

2. It's a big problem to have a VP who is more popular than the presidential candidate.

Is that why BO didn't nominate Hillary?

They don't have a #3 which really is a problem, because stuff resonates in 3's.

It just sounds so weak and tired. I just wonder how long these democrat operatives are going to be able to say that stuff with a straight face.

Elliott

Good afternoon, Palinthusiasts.

bgates

Elliott, you are killing with those.

Just mailed this to Best of the Web, but who knows if it'll get picked up. It's in response to Taranto's point that Palin and Hillary share more than one chromosome:

Dear Sir,
I had intended to write to correct your biology. You said Hillary and Sarah Palin share two chromosomes. In fact, there are 23 pairs of chromosomes in a diploid human cell, so they share 46.
As I wrote that, I realized that with so much genetic material in common, there must be more of a link between these two than anyone has realized. A question occurred to me:
Could Hillary and Sarah Palin be the same person? Look at the facts:
-Hillary is an ambitious female politician who was denied a spot on the Democratic ticket.
-Four days later, "Sarah Palin" showed up out of nowhere (they say she came from "Alaska", but respected media voices have raised doubts such a place even exists).
-Hillary has expressed feelings of respect and friendship for John McCain, which he has reciprocated. They would be comfortable running together.
-We've never seen Hillary and "Sarah Palin" in the same place at the same time.
-Hillary spent a decade in a governor's mansion, effectively as co-governor, so she would be able to fake "Sarah Palin"'s role of governor convincingly.
-Her time in the governor's mansion was in the state of Arkansas, abbr 'AR'. "Sarah Palin" is from the "state" of "Alaska", abbr "AK", a near-perfect match.
-"Sarah Palin" is said to shoot things. Hillary always looked like she wanted to shoot things.

I believe Hillary and "Sarah Palin" should submit to DNA testing to determine whether they are the same person. If it turns out they are, we should call a do-over on the whole primary season.
Yours &c,

clarice

HEH,bgates..what the heck has been in your morning Wheaties?

Pagar

This is on the Obama file Site.

"On August 21st, 2008, Philip J. Berg, Esq. filed a federal lawsuit in federal court (Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083) seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States.

Yesterday, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Obama were served with a complaint and summons. The DNC was served at noon and Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. All Defendants have now been served so the case can proceed."

Charlie (Colorado)

HEH,bgates..what the heck has been in your morning Wheaties?

And doesn't the oregano flavor go oddly with the milk?

Sue

Oh God Soylent, you made Obama's campaign today...

“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’

::grin::

But you know, on second thought, he does have Muslim connections. Why isn't he saying they are going to say maybe he's a Muslim? Uh huh. I thought so. Soylent has been right all along.

Jane

-Her time in the governor's mansion was in the state of Arkansas, abbr 'AR'.

I have a dumb question - or maybe a conspiracy is afoot, who knows. It's Friday.

When the delegate were voting for McCain's nomination on Wednesday - a bunch of states passed so Arizona could do the nominating.

They vote in alphabetical order. So Utah passed, Wyoming passed, etc.

Did anyone else notice that they never called on Alaska to vote? They went from Wyoming directly to Arizona?

I mean who cares, but I wondered if I was the only one who noticed that.

Gabriel Sutherland

This doesn't look too good for Barack Obama.

The mandatory public service push is a recipe for disaster. It's going to divide people way more than it will unite them.

Gabriel Sutherland

Looks like Public Allies is getting lots of media requests and has scrambled to explain their close relationship with the Obamas and tie in Senator McCain and President Clinton to deflect that close relationship.

Public Allies: About the Obamas

hit and run

Sue:
But you know, on second thought, he does have Muslim connections. Why isn't he saying they are going to say maybe he's a Muslim? Uh huh. I thought so. Soylent has been right all along.

Oh, no, the thing is, he's bringing up these real things because he wants any discussion of them to be deemed out of bounds.

He knows that discussing Ayers as "a person in my neighborhood" is coming down and that CAC is on its way.

What he needs is for the discussion of associations in and of itself to be a distraction, to be viewed as meaningless, tangential, just as bad as talking about personalities.

He's trying to plant the seeds for the argument that Ayers/CAC should be viewed as being completely separate from "the real issues".

GMax

Jane did you notice the panel on Fox when the Obama put out their response to Palin? It was along the lines of Maryanne March ( who is a real sourpuss most of the time ). The panel just shrugged their shoulders and said something like, "Where have we heard that before?" and went on. It was like asked and answered. I thought that same old McBush stuff was going to get old with the voters and if I read the pundits there right, it already has.

Danube of Thought

I'm really disappointed. I just got back from a three-Martini lunch hoping that some sap would have penned a ringing defense of Juan Cole--but no such luck. The fool presents such a target-rich environment that if one had a dirty mind, one might conclude that I simply sit around, week in and week out, waiting for some troll to cite Cole as an authority. (Well, you're the ones with the dirty minds. But I confess that there are many more arrows in my quiver, and I'm gonna hold them in reserve, cunningly awaiting the next stupe.)

DebinNC

“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued."

I think BO said that today to some workers in a glass factory, and I immediately thought of his SF "bitter-clinger" remarks about blue collar, small town folks being suspicious of people not like themselves. He must not have "misspoke" earlier as he claimed.

bgates

Did anyone else notice that they never called on Alaska to vote?
Well, Alaska's several time zones behind. Maybe they just didn't want to wait. Or it could be support for my theory.

I think the AIP story was cover, too, in case anybody tried to go up to "Alaska", the state we bought from the Russians that borders a part of Canada where nobody lives (that's the official story, by the way). If any reporters went up, the campaign was going to say, "oh, no, we thought we were a state, but it turns out the vote was bad. In the 50s. So...we're not. But Arkansas is a real state, we can tell you that for sure."

Danube of Thought

Love this one:

"ABC News' Imtiyaz Delawala and Bret Hovell report: John McCain and Sarah Palin made their first appearance as the official Republican party ticket Friday, at an idyllic Main Street rally in Cedarburg, Wis.

"Palin, the vice presidential nominee and governor of Alaska, came out swinging, criticizing rival Barack Obama for initially opposing the troop surge in Iraq, and, as the McCain campaign has repeatedly said, not admitting that it worked.

"'But, just last night, Sen. Obama finally broke, and brought himself to admit what all the rest of us have known for quite some time, and that’s, thanks to the skill and valor of our troops, the surge in Iraq has succeeded,' Palin said, referring to an answer Obama gave to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, Thursday."

millco88

Jane,

Isn't it because Alaska cast their delegates the first time around?? IIRC, they only started passing when the vote was close enough for Arizona to put McCain over.

hit and run

From Hotair....go tell Oprah you wanna see some Sarah.

Sue

Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., the powerful chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, now admits some ways and means he hadn't told the IRS about.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/rangel-admits-u.html>Ruh Roh

And just in time for the culture of corruption speech to come in handy.

Porchlight

Jane, I saw Alaska vote. I'm not sure when it was in the order of states, but I heard "Alaska" on the TV in the other room and I dashed in to watch. They had a nice older military gentleman casting the vote and he of course specifically mentioned Palin. Maybe they were out of order for some reason?

bgates

I've been doing more digging into this "governor of Alaska" story, and I can't believe they ever thought it would hold up. They couldn't come up with a capital-sized city up in this Canadian/Russian Arctic peninsula, so they were going to tell people there was one, but you couldn't drive there. Seriously. And the "governor" couldn't fly you in, because she had sold off the plane.

Also - remember the Clinton strategy to steal arguments from the other side? "Triangulation"? And "Sarah Palin" is this tough accomplished executive, but then she has this cute little baby, called - "Trig"?

Jane

Millco -


Oh yeah, you must be right. I missed the beginning of the vote. Thank you so much!

Sue

Drudge has a picture of Oprah with Obama sitting on her couch and underneath it says:

OPRAH REFUSES: PALIN WON'T BE ON

That has to sting. Especially after she says she has always said she wouldn't use her show for campaigning.

Jane

I'm still stunned that Hit has access to the Oprah forum!

daddy

I am in Paris and have only CNN as a source of information on the in-room TV. After a 24 hour diet of their programming I am well equipped to pass on tons of snarky 'ad hominette' comments, but as for substance they have nothing to contribute.

Neo
I am Annie Eckrich and have no connection to these people what so ever. As I see the name tag, I missed 2 programs and they may have had a name tag with my name,but none of my credentials as they were only with me at the convention. Please be assured that I have been tried and true Republican since I was 18 years old.

So the question is .. what credentials did they use to enter the building ?

Was it MSNBC ?

MayBee

George Bush's appearance on Oprah in 2000 was a big boost for him. No way Oprah is going to risk doing that again.

Charlie (Colorado)

It's just possible Bill Whittle is the best eesayist practicing:


When John McCain told me what I and untold millions of Americans have always believed, what others tell me to be ashamed of and mock me for — that I live in the greatest country in the world, a force of goodness and justice in dark places, a land of heroism and sacrifice and opportunity and joy — to me that went right to the mystic chords of memory that ultimately binds this country together. Some people don’t know what it is, but there is such a thing as patriotism — pure, unrefined, unapologetic, unconditional, non-nuanced, non-cosmopolitan, white-hot-burning patriotism. John McCain loves this country. I love it too. Not what it might be made into someday — not its promise, always and only its promise — but what it was and what it is, a nation and an idea worth fighting and dying for.

pagar

From the link that Gabriel S. put up, I believe one can see that the Obama's have been planning a long time:

""Our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to . . . engage in protest activities," Public Allies boasts in a document found with its tax filings. It has already deployed an army of 2,200 community organizers like Obama to agitate for "justice" and "equality" in his hometown of Chicago and other U.S. cities, including Cincinnati, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York, Phoenix, Pittsburgh and Washington. "I get to practice being an activist," and get paid for it, gushed Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent."

Anyone want to bet that a good many of the protesters that were seen in St Paul currently work with or have previously worked with this group.

Just like we are doing with Acorn, the US government is funding a part of these actions.

"The government now funds about half of Public Allies' expenses through Clinton's AmeriCorps. Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a national program that some see costing $500 billion. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military, he said.

The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military — and stick American taxpayers with the bill."

We (the American taxpayers)are funding the destruction of our nation, IMO.

bad

bgates

I believe!!! I believe!!! Will we dress differently and have our own mantra pretty, pretty please great leader? And do you promise to not let Tom Cruise in?

Danube of Thought

Jeez--no more citations to Juan Cole as an expert? Nap time...

MayBee

pagar- the closing line on the Public Allies link is hilarious:
*Senator Clinton hosted a White House reception for Public Allies in April, 1993, and has been a champion of Public Allies and national service. Senator McCain has also been a great champion of national service and has introduced legislation to expand AmeriCorps by more than 200%.

jean

The other protester got their badges from disgruntled Ron Paul supporters.

GMax

Hey this Charlie Rangel thing stinks to high heaven. Drudge has a link to an article which claims Rangel had an interest free loan on the property for TEN years! This guy is way worse than Dodd, and that takes some doing!

bad

pagar

CAC funded ACORN in the first year of grants.

11-6-96 $25,000 ck #1263 ACORN Community Organization

source: CAC Program Report ending December 1996 page 40 pdf

LUN

bgates

Will we dress differently
From each other, or from other people?
and have our own mantra pretty, pretty please great leader?
I have to say, I like the sound of "pretty, pretty please great leader" as a mantra.
And do you promise to not let Tom Cruise in?
Not a problem. I'll swing by the theme parks and get one of those "you must be at least this tall" pictures for the door of the clubhouse. TC and Rob Reich will be on the outside looking in, but I say we let Shawn Johnson sign up.

bad

From each other, or from other people?

I'm kinda hoping for a uniform. Toga?

hit and run

Jane:
I'm still stunned that Hit has access to the Oprah forum!


OH GOSH. Really, who will introduce PMS (was it Palin Madness Syndrome) to the world of Oprah......

OPRAH HAS PMS!!!

Someone put it in that forum.

Do it.

jean

I wonder if the Obama camp is trying to take out Rangel,because of his suport for Hillary.Why hasn't all this stuff come out before

Sue

I don't remember which thread we were discussing the pimple on Obama's nose that was clearly a distraction in the O'Reilly interview. While I am still boycotting O'Reilly, Fox is replaying clips on its other shows and I believe the pimple is indeed the mole you see in other pictures. It is certainly in the same location as the mole that was clearly seen earlier. Only now it has lost its color. Did the makeup person put too much makeup on him trying to cover it? Is it growing? Any ideas?

M. Simon

Neo,

Some one commented on another thread that it looked like they came from a broadcasting booth.

If so It is going to take a flank out of the Shrinking media. This won't just be a bit of hide.

I expect the story will come out.

The scum are destroying themselves.

Barney Frank

Not a problem. I'll swing by the theme parks and get one of those "you must be at least this tall" pictures for the door of the clubhouse.

Isn't that the kind of thing which leads to those nasty rattlesnake-in-the-mail-box incidents?

bad

Sue

The growth was so much more apparent in the O really interview. I wondered if his make-up person was making a statement....

Jane

Do it.

I can't. I'm not a member.

Is it growing? Any ideas?

I think it is the reason he will step down within 24 business hours.

M. Simon

My favorite parts of the speech with links to a video and full transcript of the speech as given

hrtshpdbox

I think it is the reason he will step down within 24 business hours.

Not the Anti-Christ thing?

Sue

I am seriously worried about him. I don't want anything bad to happen to him, I just want him to leave me the hell alone and head on back to Chicago where they seem to like his brand of politics. That is one weird looking mole, though. I'd get it checked if I were him. Anytime one changes color and grows, it isn't good.

Sue

I can't wait for a republican pundit to say Obama has voted with democrats 97% of the time and GWB 40% of the time. All they need to say is the democrat running for president has voted with GWB half as many times as the republican running for president. They'll shut up quickly when that talking point is put into perspective. Oh Magfificent? Could you get that message out? 'kay.

hit and run

Simon:
Some one commented on another thread that it looked like they came from a broadcasting booth.

I posted a quote from geraghty who said he was just noting they came from near the press area...

from which I speculated that it may have been Mitchell...

hrtshpdbox

I can't wait for a republican pundit to say Obama has voted with democrats 97% of the time and GWB 40% of the time.

I've thought about this, and I'm convinced that McCain has strict instructions out to not refute Obama's "90%" line, which he and his people use to refute just about everything. I suspect McCain wants to tear that one apart during the debate (with the precise logic you cite).

Sue

Hit,

I watched that video clip of Mitchell and the balloons. I laughed and laughed and laughed.

hit and run

Yeah, I mean conventions and balloons -- that two elections in a row with some funny balloon moments.

And they let her hang there for a bit struggling with the balloons on live tv instead of cutting away while she found a better location. Part of me thinks they were thinking she might not make it and wanted to cover her demise live.

Oh and what are the chances that several delegates were around her and kept pushing the balloons upon her? I'd like to think there were.

bad

Remember that $800,000 correction Obama's campaign had to make? As I recall it was made to a group called CSI-Center for School Improvement. Is that that the same group that received the following contributions from The Chicago Annenberg Challenge?

$100,000 ck#1027 pg. 40 pdf 1996 Program Report
$75,000 ck#1061 pg. 40 pdf 1996 Program Report
$175,000 1998 tax return pg. 19 pdf
$664,000 1999 tax return pg. 20 pdf
$386,000 2000 tax return pg. 17 pdf
$150,000 2001 tax return pg. 16 pdf

LUN

Rick Ballard

Here are some very interesting numbers. Palin almost outdrew Obama and McCain did out draw him.

Combined, McCain/Palin drew 76.1 million viewers over two nights while Obama/Biden drew 62.4 million. The panic among the puling progrssives appears to be very well founded.

Super Trooper

From CNN (9-5-08):

" Wooten insists he has been "under a microscope, and everything I did was heavily scrutinized at the time."

The father of three, who was married four times, told CNN, "I'm trying to move on and be the best dad I can to my children. Be the best trooper that I can be. You know, I love my job. I love this state."

He added that McCain's choice of Palin as his running mate was "absolutely wonderful for the state of Alaska.""

LUN

clarice

Hit:"Oh and what are the chances that several delegates were around her and kept pushing the balloons upon her? I'd like to think there were."
From what I could see the chances of that were extremely high.

Sue

hrtshpdbox,

I hope so, but I think it would be better to get it out now before it becomes accepted rhetoric. But what do I know? I'm a Rudy, Thompson, Mitt supporter.

PeterUK

"Isn't that the kind of thing which leads to those nasty rattlesnake-in-the-mail-box incidents?"

The rattlesnake takes its chance like everybody else.

bad

I should point out that all of the checks for The Center for School Improvement were made payable to University of Chicago.

LUN pdf page 26

PeterUK

"I'd get it checked if I were him. Anytime one changes color and grows, it isn't good."

His mole is white?

kim

There are such things as amelanotic melanomas.
================================

Sue

PUK,

Ewww...maybe it's just the white in him coming out?

PeterUK

So Barry was twins?

Sue

Rangel just threw his wife under the bus. She, apparently, is the one that left off the $75k on his tax returns because she handles all of their personal finances. That didn't work out too well when it was actually the truth with McCain and his houses.

Jane

I can't wait for a republican pundit to say Obama has voted with democrats 97% of the time and GWB 40% of the time.

Since all the congress has done in the last 2 years is name post offices, I bet the real story is that Barry voted with Bush nearly as often as McCain did. I wish someone would figure that out.

Sue

Jane,

I didn't even think about that. I imagine they are using the almost 8 years McCain has been in the senate to get their 90% figure. Obama has only been there for 3 years. I bet the figures are much closer.

bad

Rick

I left an answer to your question regarding Orr Network LUN

motionview

Missed opportunity for a great spontaneous line last night: As the Code Pinkos were hustled out, McCain should have said: "And you were wondering what a community organizer does."

Charlie (Colorado)

Will we dress differently ...

Oh, good, I've got a head start. I already dress differently.

Sue

motionview,

LOL.

Charlie (Colorado)

Toga?

To-GA.

To-GA!

To-GA!!

Sue

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5889>AJ has a good report on the Obama internals.

Charlie (Colorado)

ST, I can't blow it yet (I'm working press now) but there's a lot more to be said about that whole thing, and a lot of the other Sarah rumors.

Most of it sounds like it's to her credit.

centralcal

motionview: Good one!!!

Yup, Hit, those balloons! Seeing Andrea reporting through clinched teeth and batting about balloons reminded me of the song - send in the clowns. where are the clowns?

I figure Chuck Todd and David with the white hair paid some money to the balloon people to bury their competitor for Meet the Press. I read today that Todd is a disappointment and is being sent to school for further training; that David is tantrum prone, and Andrea was looking better to the big shots. (snorting all over my keyboard)

Rick Ballard

Bad,

Thanks. I wonder how Dr. Kurtz is coming with the records he has? I'd sure like to know what angle he's going to follow on this. The $800K "error" went to Citizens Services Inc. I believe that following the people rather than the numbingly similiarly named orgs will be more fruitful. Your catch on Rolling and Hallet rolling into CPEF from CAC (with Ayers still pulling the strings) is really interesting. Do you know who might have the CPEF files? When did CPEF fold up?

Danube of Thought

I was hoping McCain would say "Is there a doctor? Doctor here? Can we get her some water? Someone fainting here...happens a lot...Doctor?"

DrJ

Do you know who might have the CPEF files?

You find 'em, I'll clean 'em up and post them.

hrtshpdbox

McCain should have said: "And you were wondering what a community organizer does."

I was hoping McCain would say "Is there a doctor? Doctor here? Can we get her some water? Someone fainting here...happens a lot...Doctor?"

Only Palin will be delivering great lines like that; McCain is going to be the rancor-free moderate right up until election day. He knows what he's doing.

hrtshpdbox

Ah, carp, sorry.
Works?

hrtshpdbox

Molon Labe

What I don't get about the "voting with Bush" stats is that, uh, Bush doesn't vote.

RichatUF

fixed?

Enlightened

Boy our MSM is just desperate to destroy Sarah Palin. I think 80% of Alaskans are making their jobs very hard indeed.

"Sunday, Aug. 31 at my home my wife received a phone call from a David L. Kirby indicating he was working for the New York Times. He inquired about a car accident between Bristol Palin and myself.

This coming from the news media that can’t find or refuses to find information as to then state Senator Obama’s political documents during his state service. If you recall as to Hillary it was Obama who “criticized her directly for not releasing her correspondence as first lady, describing her tendency toward secrecy as simply ‘a problem’"

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2008/09/05/opinion/letters/doc48c0bd17af418209430536.txt

JM Hanes

Rick:
"Combined, McCain/Palin drew 76.1 million viewers over two nights while Obama/Biden drew 62.4 million. The panic among the puling progrssives appears to be very well founded."

Not only that, but McCain/Palin were only carried on 6 networks to Obama's total of 10, which included, perhaps notably BET.


bad:

"I wondered if his make-up person was making a statement..."

Don't know about the make-up person, but his hairstylist clearly sucked.

MayBee

What I don't get about the "voting with Bush" stats is that, uh, Bush doesn't vote.

I know. What does it mean, exactly? Voting for things that didn't get vetoed?

bad

Rick

Is this relevant to your work involving the Orr Network, of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge?

A new coalition of community groups is working to involve parents in what has been a controversial initiative: school turnaround efforts on the West Side. There, three small high schools at the Orr campus will close in June and reopen this fall as one high school, and two feeder elementary schools will get an academic overhaul, too.

snip....

The coalition will tap the organizing resources of its five member community groups, which, besides TARGET, includes Westside Health Authority, West Town Leadership United, the Inner-City Muslim Action Network (IMAN) and the People’s Development Association of Chicago.

LUN

MayBee

My kids think the backlash against Palin is coming from people that want to adopt Levi and Bristol's sure-to-be-beautiful baby.

Rick Ballard

GMax and Rich,

You guys have mentioned the narrowing spread in the RAS party ID reports. Take a look at the Dem percentage in Nov 2004. It was 38.6 (up from 37.7 in August) vs 38.9 today. The Dem number is also heading in the wrong direction while the Reps are headed in the right direction.

I really like McCain's strategy of running against both Democrats and Republicans. There's not going to be a single incumbent from either party in DC come January who owes him a damned thing. The only Reps who will give him the time of day in private will be the "fresh faces". It's a great election tactic and I think it will work. I think the payback will provide years of entertainment as well.

JM Hanes

jean:

"I wonder if the Obama camp is trying to take out Rangel, because of his suport for Hillary. Why hasn't all this stuff come out before"

Telling observation. When they refused to give him his own speaking slot, I thought it was a colossal mistake to piss off the man who heads up House Ways & Means (and wields enormous influence in the black community) regardless of his support for Hillary in the primaries. It does, however, make sense if they had already decided to take him down before the convention. A humiliation and a cautionary tale -- the ultimate political twofer.

Charlie (Colorado)

That might not be a great plan. I suspect that Rangel knows where a lot of skeletons are closeted.

bad

Rick

CPEF is still going strong according to the CPEF website. There are other names that match between CAC and CPEF. The trick at the CPEF website is to tap their leadership council under "teams" in the pulldown menu.

The website does not let me post a link except to the main site. (its probably just me).

bad

Fine, it posted that time.

matt

Ted Rall had another very nasty op/ed on Palin today...Can someone please take away his crayons?

larwyn

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2008/09/05/in-his-own-words/

Surber's got THE ONE'S OWN WORDS!!!
In his own words

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama on being a community organizer: "Organizing is always a lost cause."

After 2 years of community organizing, young Obama had enough of it, he told fellow Chicago community organizer, Jerry Kellman, according to John Judis of the New Republic:

But Obama was also worried about something else.....go RIA

Vanderleun:
Tom Wolfe on Community Organizers in the 1970s
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/american_studies/tom_wolfe_on_co.php

"Everybody but the most hopeless lames knew that the only job you wanted out of the poverty program was a job in the program itself. Get on the payroll, that was the idea. Never mind getting some job counseling. You be the job counselor. You be the "neighborhood organizer." As a job counselor or a neighborhood organizer you stood to make six or seven hundred dollars a month, and you were still your own man. Like if you were a "neighborhood organizer," all you had to do was go out and get the names and addresses of people in the ghetto who wanted to relate to the services of the poverty center. That was a very flexible arrangement. You were still on the street, and you got paid for it."

From Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers via Steve Sailer

For an update after nearly 40 years see: When America's Communities Need Organizing, America's Community Organizers Will Be There to Organize Them by Iowahawk.

clarice

Iowahawk has a great defense of community organizers up--sample:
"I am also proud to report that my outreach efforts have also helped get local disadvantaged youths involved in the community through politics. We met with local elected officials and showed them how successful programs piloted by ACORN in Chicago and Milwaukee could be adapted to keep local youths off the streets. The result is CFBH's wildly popular Beer and Smokes for Votes program.

But it's not just young people who benefit through community organizing efforts. For example I also make frequent visits to Whispering Acres, the senior assisted living center across from Hy-Vee. Like many elderly people across America, the residents there often struggle with forgetfulness and confusion. As a community organizer, I listen to their concerns and boring, meandering stories about the Depression. Then, when they eventually fall asleep, I help by checking their mail and storage areas and medicine cabinets to see what needs organizing. If they suddenly wake back up, I enjoy helping them fill out various legal and financial forms, and voter registrations. I'm proud to say that through efforts like these, many of these seniors have come to think of me as family. And dude, I mean totally convinced."

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/09/when-americas-c.html

JM Hanes

Sheesh, they're interviewing Wooten on CNN. Who was it that suggested we should be angling to convert Troopergate to Tasergate? We need to get cracking. Campbell Brown is getting almost as obnoxious as O'Reilly.

Charlie:

Obama is about all the power and central control. It's arguably a weakness, if the Chicago model won't scale up nationally, but it's also what makes him dangerous. It's why he moved the DNC to Obama HQ in Chicago, and it's why he's sucking up money that might otherwise go to down ticket candidates and 527's. Even if the Dems weren't pretty much assured of Congressional majories, I suspect he/they may believe that the Executive branch is really the only one that counts.

Charlie (Colorado)

I suspect he/they may believe that the Executive branch is really the only one that counts.

To a Caudillo, it is.

Sue

JMH,

Did he say anything worth repeating?

Patrick R. Sullivan

Sarah doesn't need a second chance to make a first impression

Palin is viewed favorably by 58% of American voters. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 37% hold an unfavorable view of the self-described hockey mom.

The figures include 40% with a Very Favorable opinion of Palin and 18% with a Very Unfavorable view. ....

The new data also shows significant increases in the number who say McCain made the right choice and the number who say Palin is ready to be President.

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