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September 17, 2008

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Semanticleo

'you're simply regarded as a dishonest fool.'

Then, for the sake of your credibility with your fellow travelers, stop addressing me.

Ann

I love the magnificent bastard!! Go Rove!!

Pofarmer

The dem talking head on H&C just said that Obama was the only one who introduced legislation to reform FM & FM. Did we miss that somewhere? What was the bill?

Well, I've never seen one mentioned. I imagine that that came from the same place as Barack Husseing being the head of the banking committee, or whichever one that was.

Semanticleo

"I love the magnificent bastard!! Go Rove!!"

I second that. What we need are more honest brokers.....HUZZAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Jane

Boy Rove handed Alan his hat, didn't he?

Rocco

JMH

I don't, but I bet TM could tell us. Him and Beldar were on it a long time ago.

bgates

So, was Gorelick the ultimate affirmative action hire, or did she just run into Clinton as an intern?
The intern story is plausible. Hard to blame Bubba for reading something into a name like "Gorelick".

Barney Frank

The dem talking head on H&C just said that Obama was the only one who introduced legislation to reform FM & FM. Did we miss that somewhere? What was the bill?

I think the first four words answer the last two questions.

Danube of Thought

Clarice and Barney: This is from Sigcarlfred.blogspot.com, which is good enough for me:

"As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999 at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank, looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.

"Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick, padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million."

Where there's smoke there's fire, I always say. Hang 'em high.

ben

Intelligent question:
What exactly will Obama do that will save us all from a bear market?"
Semanticleo's really dumb answer:
"I actually feel sympathy for the Party who wins in '08."

The non-sequitur answer is that there is no plan. Semanticleo's digging through the trash at Kos and other leftist dumpsters won't uncover any so he can't answer the question. The reason is that Obama's plan was merely the traditional lets soak the rich and redistribute some money, preferably to the interest groups that support him. Now that there is a crisis to deal with, his plan is pitifully inadequate.

Danube of Thought

"Then, for the sake of your credibility with your fellow travelers, stop addressing me."

Nope. You're a liar, a fraud and a fool, and you've committed the shameful act of inventing a wholly fictitious Marine son. If you don't yet taste the shame, then I'll keep feeding it to you. Tough cheese.

PDinDetroit

Rove just spanked Alan Colmes on Fox!

It appears that the Democrats are truly willing to do or say anything now to get Obama elected. SemCleo is a prime example. Ignore FACTS that are there and try to deflect as much as possible. The American People want Leaders who will admit mistakes and learn from them. This gains the respect of those they would be honored to govern. I cannot see the Obama would ever do this - I do believe McCain can.

BTW Semmy - lately, you have been attacking personally as well as idealogically. I am glad you hang out here as you must be getting something from it. But, please do try to be civil!

Danube of Thought

From the ultra-rightist New York Times, November 30, 1996:

"Janet Reno Fumbles

"Attorney General Janet Reno, rarely reluctant to appoint special prosecutors to look into allegations of corruption, yesterday adopted a strangely cautious and narrow approach toward the mounting evidence of questionable fund-raising by Democratic Party operatives. Her refusal to appoint an independent prosecutor virtually assures a protracted and potentially disruptive Congressional investigation. Ms. Reno would do well to review the evidence and rethink her decision."

She didn't, of course.

ben

"No disrespect intended toward your person, just your ideology................"

Now we are getting somewhere. Semanticleo just admitted everything he ever wrote here is BS. So he knows the surge worked, that the mortgage crisis was brought about by Democrats, that Obama is not qualified to be President. It's all about ideology, nothing to do with issues or policies. To him, Fidel Castro would be better than McCain, because he is more ideologically matched. This was an important clarification, and I don't really know where Semanticleo can go from here.

Semanticleo

"But, please do try to be civil!"

Cites, please. I do not attack personally unless attacked first.(e.g. MSimon, DoT) in the most misogynistic and craven fashion.

But I realize it is often hard to smell one's own brand.

Semanticleo

"Semanticleo just admitted everything he ever wrote here is BS. So he knows the surge worked, that the mortgage crisis was brought about by Democrats, that Obama is not qualified to be President."

Jeez. All that packed in one simple sentence?
I must be more skilled than I thought.

Rocco

Correction

I wouldn't have offered that last post had I taken the time to catch up...sorry Clarice

BobS

PD: I saw that,too. Combes demonstrates they only have psuedo hypocricy as an argument. In other words, yeah we're wrong, but you sorta kinda mighta done somthing almost like similar.

Sue

No disrespect intended toward your person, just your ideology................

What ideology?

Semanticleo

"Nope. You're a liar, a fraud and a fool, and you've committed the shameful act of inventing a wholly fictitious Marine son. If you don't yet taste the shame, then I'll keep feeding it to you. Tough cheese."

It won't be all that difficult to get your IP address and file a slander/libel suit against your skinny little ass. Ask Maguire if he wants to get embroiled in your puerile outbursts.

BobS

Gloria Allread on Fox.......what a Dem hack. She acts like she's about women, but she's a HACK!

centralcal

You know, I have no tolerance tonite.

Jonathan Martin is a fat liberal hack pretending to be nonpartisan in his following of the McCain campaign. Greta did fine work batting him back.

I just don't want to wade through any more of Semanticleo's crap here. He/she is a fake, a fraud, and probably 89 in another persona.

Blech.

clarice

Hard to prove he injured your reputation when you are a pseudonym on a web post, semantic.

Think about it before you waste some lawyer's time on a consultation.

clarice

Yes, Allred is. Suggesting that hacking might be justified because the hackers had a right to know if Sarah was discussing state business on a personal acct to avoid archiving..Makes my blood boil.Except that she's a generally stupid headline grabber anyway.

Jim Rhoads aka Vnjagvet

Woooooo. The semster is all atwitter.

It appears DOT got to him.

Semanticleo

"Think about it before you waste some lawyer's time on a consultation.'

You may be right, but I don't think this is a case Maguire wants to test. Advise your Gargoyle to cool his jets.

Sue

Hey, I was told if Bush was elected, my private emails would not be safe.

Jane

I've had it with Cleo too. He's making me not want to be here. He's been spoiling threads for 3 days. I wish you people could just ignore him until he goes away. Otherwise the rest of us are gonna go away.

What's with the hacking of the emails?

bgates

c-cal - Firefox, Greasemonkey, and a troll blocker. Install those 3 pieces of software, and join me in marveling as your fellow commenters talk to ghosts.

BobS

File suit against me: Cleo, youre becoming an arrogant ass. Now threatening TM. Geez o pete.

PDinDetroit

Defensive are we? My, My...

Myopic Engineers ring a bell? There were many more "engineers" there during a specific conversation, involved in a discussion of credentials vs none. It appeared that you just wanted to get your 2 cents in, but resulted in striking out at people you disagree with.

clarice

That's the message folks-respond to semantic and risk a lawsuit. Or my pistola.

Jane, hackers hit her email account and published stuff from it online at Gawker. Their response, picked up by hacks like Gawker is that they had a right somehow to check to see if Sarah was conducting government business online (they apparently found no evidence of that) to avoid any turning over of her records--I assums this is more garbage from the ridiculous Tasergate matter.

BobS

Its REALLY ok, Jane. Gloria said she was concerned.

Charlie (Colorado)

Think about it before you waste some lawyer's time on a consultation.

Awwww. It was just starting to look amusing.

SKJ

Directive 24 was closed when?
What happened to the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency?

clarice

**picked up by hacks like Allred*****

Danube of Thought

Bring it on, Cleo, you gutless coward. Do your very worst, and name your phantom Marine "son" as a plaintiff in your lawsuit. Call him "John Doe."

And don't just settle for my IP address. Get my street address at home, and come on by. Any time.

BobS

Did I date myself with "geez o pete"? Is it archaic?

Rick Ballard

Oooooh, an anonymous dimwit threatening to embroil TM in a lawsuit on a board where a third of the commenters are attorneys who would offer to take depositions on a pro bono basis until the dimwit's bank account was as empty as the Sahara. What a sharpie.

RichatUF

Don't know if this has been posted, but JOMers might be able to work with this.

Sue

I want to know the bill Obama introduced that the talking head alluded to. Can anyone help me find it? And if he did, why hasn't he been mentioning all day long?

BobS

anyone hear Lynn de Rothchild slam Nancy Pelosi? What a major wow that was.

Semanticleo

"Awwww. It was just starting to look amusing."

Don't you have a son in the Marines?

*compassionate conservatism*

BobS

shrill....

Semanticleo

"Get my street address at home, and come on by. Any time."

Challenge accepted. Care to give it now?

bio mom

Karl Rove finally did what nobody else has had the courage to do: Refuse to let Alan Combes' lies and half truths go unchallenged. One of the reasons I stopped watching that show was Hannity's stridency and Combes' lies that nobody corrects. Tonight I wanted to hear the Palin interview.

RichatUF

I want to know the bill Obama introduced that the talking head alluded to. Can anyone help me find it?

What's the subject? I'll go and make myself useful.

ben

"Jeez. All that packed in one simple sentence?
I must be more skilled than I thought."

I would say you are not, but I am afraid of legal action.

PDinDetroit

Clarice - sorry for engaging with Semmy. I see him/her/it actually hurting and I am tired of seeing the "strikeout" at others lately. I know I am new on this blog, but I could not stand this anymore.

LUN - it appears that we are not the only ones frustrated with Semmy (back in 2006).

Hugs for SemCleo! I pray for only the best for you.

Sue

Rich,

The dem talking head said that Obama was the only person to introduce legislation that would address the issue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Enjoy and for some, learn.

< a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-_HlpZ8azA">Video

BobS

bio mom:

I'd gotten to that point too. But its all poor Combes has and I'm starting to wonder whether or not he really believes it. I've always thought that he was a decent guy and Hannity seems to enjoy Combes personal barbs at him.

Semanticleo

"but I am afraid of legal action."

Say anything you want about me. My son is another matter. I always thought 'family values' Republicans understood that.

Sue

Alan Colmes is a total douche bag. All you need to know of whether he actually believes the crap he spews is to visit his website. Be prepared. He was wallowing in the filth of Sarah Palin's son and daughter, just like the rest of the leftards.

Semanticleo

"it appears that we are not the only ones frustrated with Semmy (back in 2006)."

Actually I go back to 2005, but I'm a lot better at this than I was then.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Oops. Here it is again:

Video

clarice

PD, I['m too old to care about trying to repair injured souls. It usually turns out they are "injured" because they are assholes and others have called them on it..then they go moping off to inflict their venom on others who for a time are more tolerant.
Here's what Althouse said of Semanticleo (or at least someone who used the same pseudonym). I wonder if she was sued:
"Ann Althouse said...
Actually, you missed the main post, which has a long discussion, so you still haven't found it. Really, you are the only commenter in the entire history of this blog that I have called an idiot. It's not my style. But, really, you are an idiot! I'm making an exception from my usual standards because it's just so beyond obvious. Don't comment again without making a sincere apology. I will delete you if you do.

11:45 AM "

pagar

For those who don't believe there is a tie-in between the Democrats and Fannie & Freddie Mae's disaster.
LUN

BobS

Cleo:

You Dems have hijacked an old-and admittedly lame-slogan from Bush the 1st re-election campaign to infer Rebublicans feel they somehow have family values cornered.

Its never been the case, but we admit that we actually prioritize them over that of our own political party.

JLj

Deleters. Bad.

PDinDetroit

I guess I am not the only one with sympathy for Semmy. Guess you must be DOING SOMETHING to get a whole blog post just for you!

LUN.

boris

The troll from Assclownistan has no family to value.


Danube of Thought

"Challenge accepted. Care to give it now?"

Not in public, but once you get my IP address, send me an e-mail and I'll invite you on over, shitbird. (Ask the Phantom Marine what a "shitbird" is. Every Marine knows that one--but then, you don't know any Marines.) And for God's sake stop whining about your "son" and "family values." You don't have a son in the Marine Corps, I know that for a fact, and I won't allow you to get away with inventing one in order to curry favor or sympathy from people at this site.

And I respect the views of Jane and Clarice as much as I respect those of anyone I've encountered in a long time, but as long as TM permits this shitbird to disrupt this site, I'm going to expose him and his imaginary "son" for the frauds they are.

And if TM wants to strike anyone from this website, he can choose between that asshole and me.

bad

JLj

I'm no deleters.

ben

"Say anything you want about me. My son is another matter."

I don't think anybody was saying anything bad about your son, just commenting that he doesn't exist. I have several sons that don't exist either, and I am hardly offended.

Charlie (Colorado)

Actually I go back to 2005, but I'm a lot better at this than I was then.

Not really.

FD

So, they had connections to Chicago public housing. Did Obama know the Merrill guy?

Charlie (Colorado)

I don't think anybody was saying anything bad about your son, just commenting that he doesn't exist. I have several sons that don't exist either, and I am hardly offended.

I bet I have more non-existent children of all sexes than you do.

And I have cats.

BobS

I thought Greta van Sustyrn was a Dem. She sure let the View gals have it.

PDinDetroit

Clarice - I am still an optimist. The glass is always full, half-full of air and half-full of water.

The neat thing is Semmy has actually engaged in dialog instead of diatribe (even just a little). Did we get Semmy off message???

ben

"I bet I have more non-existent children of all sexes than you do.

And I have cats."

Oh yeah, well I have more non-existent dogs than you do, so there.

Semanticleo

"I have several sons that don't exist either, and I am hardly offended."

I see your point. I'll move on.

Charlie (Colorado)

Oh yeah, well I have more non-existent dogs than you do, so there.

You'd win.

Not that I don't like dogs.

Sue

I have several sons that don't exist either, and I am hardly offended.

Now that was just plain funny.

BobS

.....in Detroit Rock City

Sorry, couldn't help it. So,PD, McCain-Palin was in Michigan today for a townhall meeting. Do they actually have a chance there?

clarice

BobS..Her husband, a big Clinton supporter, is now supporting McCain. I do think Greta and Sarah hit it off.

Semanticleo

"The neat thing is Semmy has actually engaged in dialog instead of diatribe"

*chuckle* I've extended olive branches to no avail. They want a coffee klatch, not a dialogue, and I like to spill it when they fill it.

bad

I have several sons that don't exist...

I'm sure they're lovely. Have they any children who don't exist as well?

BobS

Didn't that happen at the DNC? Greta seemed to find Todd palin genuine as well.

Neo
Representative Jim Leach, Republican of Iowa, said Freddie Mac -- short for the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation -- had borrowed $125 million in the bond markets on Monday at 6.99 percent, an interest rate reflecting the market's belief that the Treasury had effectively guaranteed repayment.

Freddie Mac, whose charter calls for it to invest primarily in mortgages and mortgage securities, then used the $125 million to buy corporate bonds issued by the Philip Morris Companies with identical 10-year maturities yielding 7.68 percent.

Mr. Leach said that such an investment strategy might be legal, but that it was not appropriate. ''Freddie Mac was established by an act of Congress for a specific purpose: to advance home ownership, not to facilitate tobacco sales,'' he said. ''What Freddie Mac's action amounts to is taxpayer subsidization of corporate arbitrage and, implicitly, the tobacco industry.'' -- April 11, 1997

So where did this story lead ?

eelssouljacker

Jar gon defined as a 'term of endearment for a friend' Jar head.

So, like Plame sent a team of nurses from Bethesda and had him father children against his will 'cause he decided that's how you get even, by not reproducing. You should respect him for saying no.

PDinDetroit

BobS - I actually think so, but I will wait until the night of Nov 4th before I get too excited.

In my community, there are just as many McCain Yard Signs as there are Obama Yard Signs. Then, there is the guy down the street that still has the Ron Paul "Super-Duper-Sized" Yard Signs. HMMMM...

OT - Kwame Kilpatrick's Name was removed from the Detroit Zoo Water Tower. McCain ads here that show the Obama footage stating "Kwame is going places and has a Bright Future in the Democratic Party" would really do the trick!

Sue

They want a coffee klatch, not a dialogue, and I like to spill it when they fill it.

What a bunch of horse puckey. I asked you specific questions and got coffee klatch. You have nothing or you would offer it.

RichatUF

Sue-

The dem talking head said that Obama was the only person to introduce legislation that would address the issue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Did a bit of googling. Um, without a bit more information this is going to be some weak tea for Obama.

There is a bill kicking around The Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act of 2007 HR 3915 which is pending in the Senate, but I could find it. I found on a message board something about Obama's support to Amendment 38 S.256, dealing with "predatory lending practices". Looking at the roll call it appears that Obama voted "no" on this measure.

I might have gotten some stuff mixed up and will keep looking. Obama has to have something showing he was on the case, not on the payroll, of Fannie and Freddie.

Ann

This is the quote of the day at LauraIngraham.com and it made me smile:

She started shooting a gun when she was eight and shot her first animal when she was ten...I would tell those boys in Washington, 'Don't underestimate her.
-- Chuck Heath, father of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

RichatUF

ooops...I could find it....I couldn't find it in the Senate

Rocco

Did you see the contrasting View segments of McCain and Obama. It was pretty telling. I couldn't help think of the gentleman cheating senator Barbara had an affair with. Didn't she say she thought Barack was sexy? I wonder if she had a tingling sensation running down her leg like Matthews did?

clarice

Into the pockets of the thieves who ran FNMA, their foundation's donees (like ACORN) and the recipients of their political contributions.

(Raines' house is for sale down the block.There's an "under contract" sign up--should I attach it for the taxpayers.

Sue

Rich,

She specifically said he "introduced" legislation. I have googled and found nothing. I hope they post a vid of that interview somewhere so I can get her exact quote.

PDinDetroit

eeewwww Rocco. I will now have nightmares!

narciso

Suspicions about where Lehman Brothers were hanging their hat, reveal this fact from the Corner:
Ian Murray

"The demise of Lehman Bros will be mourned perhaps most by the environmental movement. The bank was, like Enron, a big booster of carbon pricing and its recommendations on the subject had begun to be adopted by governments around the world. Its MD, Theodore Roosevelt IV, sits on the board of a vast number of environmental groups, including Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection (and I understand Lehman Bros was the banker for Al Gore's trading firm GIM). A lot more on this for those intrigued is here, along with links to other articles on the subject."

09/17 10:53 AM

bad

Ckarice

I'm glad he is selling. You shouldn't have to live near vermin like that.

clarice

He and his wife are in the middle of a divorce. I expect he's been out of there for a while.

wham!

Ingrams dad was a CIA spy or something. Back in the 60s everyone was shooting.

Wasn't the leg tingling thing a trade for a disease and they have new pills now?

BobS

Oh, chit...Clarice said ACORN. That makes me go crazy and I start linking like there's no tomorrow. Still waiting for the motherlode though. (Pssssst: Its an Eric Holder relationship with them)

RichatUF

Sue-

Found the AMERICAN HOUSING RESCUE AND FORECLOSURE PREVENTION ACT OF 2008...

The problem is Obama couldn't bother to vote present, he was too busy and didn't vote.

There is something. There has to be.

clarice

bad--

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/22/AR2008042200005.html>Raines settles suit, has new girlfriend and job, gets divorce

Barney Frank

Generally, for libel to occur the person does not have to be named but it must be obvious to a third party who the person being referred to is. Who the hell is semanticleo?

But the most difficult hurdle he'd face is for damages to be assessed he has to demonstrate that his character is not already so disreputable as to be immune to further damage. Cleo has supplied about 1000 posts here already that make it possible for anyone to say anything about him without fear of retribution.

Charlie (Colorado)

There is something. There has to be.

Why? It would hardly be the first time his mouth wrote a check his history couldn't cash.

clarice

Barney--frankly when in the middle of a debate someone threatens to sue, I regard the debate as over and anyone who continues it foolish.

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