But Biden Is More Generous With Other People's Money

Sarah Palin and the First Dude gave more to charity in the last two years than Joe Biden gave in the last ten, despite his higher income.  But he supports higher taxes on other people, so we know he is truly compassionate and giving.  Just not out of his own pocket.

INSUFFICIENTLY HERALDED:  One of the great things about the Palin candidacy is that we aren't forced to endure more whining from Michelle about the high cost of piano lessons and the horrors of student loans.

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[hit and run]

Charity, schmarity.

Paying taxes is patriotic.

Right?

[BAW]

When I heard this story reported it came with a statement from the Obama/Biden campaign saying that Biden gives cash at his church and he and his wife give their time. (Like he goes to that restaurant that isn't there and hangs out at Home Depot.) But what I was reminded of is a picture I have seen of Palin working at a building site that I believe was a Habitat for Humanity project.

Sorry Joe, Sarah wins again.

[BumperStickerist]

Well, Sarah didn't pay her taxes ...

... or didn't pay sufficient taxes at the time she and Todd filed for an extension

... or they had an accountant who said "Hey! write a check for $2,000 and that'll cover it."

or something.

Anyway, if they haven't all ready, teh Leftards will be shrieking that Sarah's a tax dodger.

Despite the fact that it's the tax preparer certifies the result.

One particularly disturbed Leftard who's blogging at The Atlantic will be shrieking that Sarah's claim that Trig is her baby should be investigated by the IRS.

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[Elroy Jetson]

OT alert!
It looks like Palin is going to force the Obama/Ayers issue.
See Drudge.

[centralcal]

Bumper, I believe you are being snarky about the leftard blogger at The Atlantic. However, your snark may prove to be quite prescient. Sullivan is becoming more deranged every day.

[bio mom]

I am very worried about Joe Biden being a heartbeat away from the presidency.

[TGO]

So Sarah's witchdoctor contributions are subsidized by American taxpayers?

[Rick Ballard]

bio mom,

It is pretty scary. If something happened to Obama then Pelosi would have Biden declared brain dead and take over. Who could argue with her?

[pagar]

I'm hearing something about Hannity on Fox at 9 PM EST Sunday--1 hr on Obama and all his shady or worse, friends.

[Antimedia]

If we had an unbiased media in this country, McCain would be leading by 20 points. As it is, the alternative media is raising enough issues that the truth may still get through to the average American before the election.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

I posted this link last night in a mostly dead thread, but I think it needs more discussion.

Obama Claims He Never Worked For Acorn

From Obama campaign’s disinformation website, Fight The Smears:

Barack Obama Never Organized with ACORN

Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

From a thirteen year old article from the Chicago Reader:

By Hank De Zutter
December 8, 1995

… Another strong supporter of Obama’s work–as an organizer, as a lawyer, and now as a candidate–is Madeline Talbott, lead organizer of the feisty ACORN community organization, a group that’s a thorn in the side of most elected officials. “I can’t repeat what most ACORN members think and say about politicians. But Barack has proven himself among our members. He is committed to organizing, to building a democracy. Above all else, he is a good listener, and we accept and respect him as a kindred spirit, a fellow organizer.”

Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side. Conducting a session in a New Horizons classroom, Obama, tall and thin, looks very much like an Ivy League graduate student. Dressed casually prep, his tie loosened and his top shirt button unfastened, he leads eight black women from the Grand Boulevard community through a discussion of “what folks should know” about who in Chicago has power and why they have it. It’s one of his favorite topics, and the class bubbles with suggestions about how “they” got to be high and mighty…

And never mind that Project Vote is simply a front for ACORN.

Be sure to also read this followup post:

Obama Ran ACORN Power Training Classes

[matt]

psychologically, this is interesting. Both Obama and Biden gave almost nothing to charity, and yet they are the ones who get the "compassion" vote? Our values have become pretty skewed.......

[clarice]

Well, Rick, how could she avoid the same diagnosis. Did yousee a pic of her yesterday BTW? Looks like she's wearing a cheap wig to hide the lobotomy scars.

[TGO]

Unrepentant Felons for McCain!!!

link

[Lori]

I find it interesting that leftists like TGO believe that the Watergate break-in is morally comparable to planning and carrying out terrorist acts that intentionally kill innocent people. Good luck with that argument with anyone but leftists.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Ace is live blogging from the Palin Rally in Carson, CA. My son is at the rally too.

[TGO]

I find it interesting

I know what you mean, but boy oh boy, it would be even more interesting if I had actually said that.

[PeterUK]

Errol Garner didn't need no steenkin' piano lessons.

[Lori]

TGO-you are implying it by using the phrase "unrepentant felons" when we call Ayers an "unrepentant terrorist". Otherwise, what is the point of your post?

[TGO]

Gallup Daily: Obama Maintains Significant Margin NEW

October 4, 2008

Registered voters say they would vote for Barack Obama (50%) over John McCain (42%) if the election were held today. Obama has held a statistically significant lead for eight consecutive days.

Rasmussen

. . . . McCain Obama Spread

10/04/2008 45% 51% Obama +6

10/03/2008 44% 51% Obama +7

10/02/2008 44% 51% Obama +7

10/01/2008 45% 51% Obama +6

09/30/2008 45% 51% Obama +6

09/29/2008 45% 50% Obama +5

09/28/2008 44% 50% Obama +6

09/27/2008 44% 50% Obama +6

09/26/2008 45% 50% Obama +5

[PeterUK]

You have to forgive TGO, never been the same since is was issued with the Troll Gimp Outfit.

[ben]

Ok so the guy is the Messiah and has spent hundreds of millions and has the entire MSM on his side and is ahead by 6 points or so, well within reach? Let's see if TGO is going to be posting polls when they narrow, which they surely will....

[Usher #8]

"...a statement from the Obama/Biden campaign saying that Biden gives cash at his church..."

I heard that Biden actually takes money out when the basket is passed around. The campaign clarifies that Joe is just getting change back.

[Harry Johnson]

"Rasmussen

. . . . McCain Obama Spread

10/04/2008 45% 51% Obama +6"

Flashback:

"AP Poll: Kerry Holds Small Lead Over Bush

Thursday, October 07, 2004

Among 944 likely voters, the Kerry-Edwards ticket led Bush-Cheney 50 percent to 46 percent. The Oct. 4-6 survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points."

LUN

[TGO]

electoral college- 2008 vs 2004

[ben]

The small Obama lead right now is based entirely on the fallacy that Republicans were responsible for the finance debacle, actually caused by the mortgage crisis where we know the Dems are to blame. That perception could change. Dick Morris thinks Obama has peaked too early.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

This is a shocker. According to Ace, Palin was introduced by NOW and ""There's a special place in hell for women who don't support women."

[Cecil Turner]

Interesting graph. There's little doubt the public is blaming the GOP for the Democrat-engineered GSE meltdown. (The talking heads try to pretend it's the debate, but the timing is obviously wrong.) I don't know if that meme can hold through the election, but if it does, look out! It'd be nice if elections were decided on something besides leftist MSM [redundant] propaganda, but . . .

[ben]

"TGO believe that the Watergate break-in is morally comparable to planning and carrying out terrorist acts that intentionally kill innocent people. Good luck with that argument with anyone but leftists."

That has been the centerpiece of his defense of Obama. But TGO's ignorance is shared by a lot of people or Obama wouldn't have so much support. Unfortunately there is trend towards assigning moral equivalence to completely disparate situations. It's the "we deserved 9/11" syndrome

[Fisher]

Good to see our lady go after the Ayers connection. She needs to beef that up with bullets ala Kurtz. Be specific! Ask Obama specific questions and DO NOT LET THEM GO UN-ANSWERED FOR A NEWS CYCLE. Period!

Start hitting the ENTIRE Democratic party on their lapdog performance back in 2004 with F/F. Again - BE SPECIFIC!!! Tell people to YouTube the now-classic videos of Barney and Maxine and Meeks tearing the regulator whistleblowers a new one.

THIS IS NOT DIFFICULT PEOPLE!!!

[ben]

"Unrepentant Felons for McCain!!!"

TGO is probably from the bottom of the troll gene pool, but this is typical of how delusional people get. Obama would easily win the felon vote because Democrats are traditionally more lenient on crime and the death penalty and favor prisoner rights to the detriment of victim's rights. In fact, Democrats are trying to give felons the right to vote in every state.

[TGO]

Democrats are traditionally more lenient on crime

Scooter begs to differ.

[Cecil Turner]

How 'bout: "they're more lenient on actual criminals"?

[Barney Frank]

Democrats are traditionally more lenient on crime

Should read; Democrats are traditionally more lenient on Democrat crime.

[Dr. Weevil]

During the 2000 Florida recounts, it was discovered that hundreds of convicted felons had voted in Florida. Of course, we don't know how they voted, but it's not hard to come up with an estimate. As I recall, roughly 3/4 were registered as Democrats, 1/8 as Republicans, and 1/8 were independents.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Well Fox just quoted the NYT that the Obama/Ayers relationship is no big deal.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Update from Cahlihfornia

Pics via Ace of the Carson rally.

[ben]

"Well Fox just quoted the NYT that the Obama/Ayers relationship is no big deal."

Dang, if the NYT says so, must be true...no bias there...

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Via Instapundit:

JACK KELLY -- HUNTING MR. GOOD WILL: Mr. Good Will - who lists his employer as "Loving" and his profession as "You" - has contributed 1,000 times to the Barack Obama campaign. "CNN recently sent a reporter to Little Diomede Island, the westernmost part of Alaska (2.4 miles from Russia) to determine whether Sarah Palin had ever been there to see Russia with her own eyes. But CNN - and the rest of the media - have been incurious about the Obama campaign's fund-raising."

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Tapper: McCain 'About to Open Up a Can of Whoop-ass on Obama'

[boris]

The McCain campaign should quote that at every opportunity "The New York Times claims that Obama's 4 year working relationship with a 60s radical who's bombs killed three pepole is no big deal". Then Johm McCain should tell the viewers that he had a 5 year relationship with much worse torturing killer communists and would never try to make an issue out of Obama's associations.

[Patrick R. Sullivan]

I love it when newspapers let reporters do stories about things of which they're totally ignorant:

Many deductions put Palins in 15% bracket

....For the 2007 tax year, Todd Palin's self-employment brought him $66,893 in gross receipts: $49,893 from fishing and $17,000 from snowmachine racing. But the returns show he claimed so many deductions that he reported only $15,513 net profit from the fishing operation and claimed a $9,639 loss from his racing, leaving him with an overall net income of $5,874.

...."This is a lady who screams about everyone in federal government taking advantage, and she's taking every advantage she can," said Sheldon Cohen, an IRS commissioner in the Johnson administration who has contributed to the Obama-Biden campaign. "The question is, is he in the racing business or is it a hobby?"

First, the headline writer confuses 'tax bracket' with tax rate. Which could have been cleared up with a simple Google search.

Second, business income is found by deducting from gross receipts, BUSINESS EXPENSES; things like rent, interest expense, depreciation, electricity.... Expenses, not 'deductions'.

There's nothing unusual in what Todd Palin reported. Sheldon Cohen is an idiot.

[syn]

"Democrats are traditionally more lenient on Democrat crime."

It helps that the majority of Democrat politicians have law degrees and know how to get around the laws while working with media venues which are majority Democrat.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

McCain was busy being tortured during the time that Ayers and all the various radical groups were wrecking havoc in America. He missed it all, including the race riots that burned so many U.S. cities. Those of us who lived thru that time and lived in some of those cities know the danger. I don't think McCain realizes just how bad it was while he was the guest of the VC. America changed drastically between 1967 and 1973.

[bgates]

I love it when newspapers let reporters do stories about things of which they're totally ignorant
What alternative do they have?

This is a lady who screams about everyone in federal government taking advantage, and she's taking every advantage she can
Palin complains about Democrats like Rangel hiding investment income for decades, or like Frank sleeping with executives of government finance companies he regulates, or like Dodd getting sweetheart mortgage deals from private sector companies he regulates - yet she has the nerve to have a spouse take legitimate business expenses.

[Ralph L]

I don't think McCain realizes ...
I assume that's why he could even speak to John Kerry.

[MayBee]

"This is a lady who screams about everyone in federal government taking advantage, and she's taking every advantage she can," said Sheldon Cohen, an IRS commissioner in the Johnson administration who has contributed to the Obama-Biden campaign.

But she's for low taxes, right?
The thing that I scream about is people that want everyone to pay more taxes while they personally take every deduction possible, or incorporate themselves to lower their rates.

[Ralph L]

I'm watching CNN. They're not making even a pretense of objectivity.

[Ralph L]

They literally tried to shout down Diana West about the Dems' part in the bad loans. She did make the point well, and brought up Bill Clinton's comment on it.

[BumperStickerist]

Ace is live blogging from the Palin Rally in Carson, CA. My son is at the rally too.

Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal)

So long as your son is not a hobo, he should be okay. {little AoS blog-humor there)

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And, the fact that Obama has, year to date, spent $439,840,235 for the sole purpose of touting his credentials as President - and managed around 50% should speak *volumes* about His leadership ability.

Half a Billion for this? Gawd - Obama is a one man semi-demi-hemiquaver of an economic stimulus package for Boooosh.
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[BumperStickerist]

In fact -

Tom, if you read down this far in the comment-caverns - here's a headline for a future post:

Obama's campaign staff increases
reduce US unemployment to 1.8% -
lowest ever recorded

Tens of thousands supporters of Senator Obama accepted walking-around money, perks, and other considerations making them de facto employees of Senator Obama's Campaign.

[TGO]

McCain was busy being tortured during the time Bush was drinking and smoking it up with the TANG boys.

And Republicans preferred party-boy Bush with his questionable business deals over the war hero McCain. At this point it's kinda late to pretend your party stands on principle. So you can drop the fake indignation.

[boris]

Of course W didn't explode his own girlfriend like Obama's close professional associate Bill Ayers did.

[Jane]

Wow - Fox is doing a special on the financial crisis and is naming names - Obama, Schumer, and Frank.

[TGO]

Of course W didn't explode his own girlfriend

But W's close personal friend did shoot a man in the face.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

McCain was busy being tortured during the time Bush was drinking and smoking it up with the TANG boys.

Sure he was, the Air Force, where Bush trained to fly fighters, was in the habit of letting druggies and drunks fly their very expensive planes.

[centralcal]

Gateway Pundit quoting Sarah in Carson, CA:

"Just once it would be nice if he said he wanted our country to win!"

Go Sarah!

[ben]

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcf4JzIrcu4

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAzntzm-J4

Two great ads linking Obama to Freddie and Fannie...

[centralcal]

Y'guys: the more you engage with TGO, the more he spews his garbage. Have you tried troll blocker?

[PDinDetroit]

TGO = Total Garbage Output

[ben]

I told you TGO was not very smart, but it does show the convoluted and perverted moral compass we are dealing with.

Cheney had a hunting accident while Ayers blew up his girlfriend in the process of building bombs to kill other people. Yet in TGO's twisted mind, he thinks there is a moral equivalency here. Yes, you have to discount the fact he is not too swift, but still, ignorance can't account for all of his thinking.

[PDinDetroit]

I wouldn't worry about McCain/Palin being down by 6 points. From MSM Pundits, it has been claimed that Obama/Biden need to be more than 6 points ahead by Nov 4 for them to win.

My bet - dead even heat right now.

[ben]

I think we can learn from TGO, in the same manner as researchers venture into disease infested areas to learn how to combat the problem.

[Jane]

I wish you guys were watching this program. I hope McCain and Palin are.

[centralcal]

Amen, Jane! Fox at its best tonight.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Jane are you watching the Fanny/Freddie thing on Fox?

[clarice]

I am, Jane.

[ben]

"This is a lady who screams about everyone in federal government taking advantage, and she's taking every advantage she can," said Sheldon Cohen, an IRS commissioner in the Johnson administration who has contributed to the Obama-Biden campaign."

Two comments on this absurd quote...first is it more patriotic not to take the deductions you are legally entitled to?...second, where did they find this guy, at the IRS Senior's Home...an IRS Commissioner probably had to be 40 at least, in the mid-60's, which was 43 years ago...but I am glad the MSM thinks 85 year olds are perfectly lucid, it means McCain will be doing well in his 4th term....

[Jane]

Unbelievable. It should be shown in every household in the country. I can't believe how clear they are.

[TGO]

It also found that Palin's performance in the debate did nothing to clinch undecided votes for her running mate, Arizona Sen. John McCain. Before the debate, those same undecided voters were leaning 56 percent to 44 percent for McCain. The day after the debate, the numbers tilted 52 percent to 48 percent for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

"It's suggesting an overall tendency of undecideds toward Obama, so it is significant," said Clifford Young, a senior vice president at Ipsos Public Affairs. "We're catching an underlying trend that's going on."

link

[ben]

According to Rasmussen the race has been incredibly stable for 9 days straight. So Obama's economy bump is not growing at least. Most pollsters think people will be giving Obama another look in mid-October, and McCain has an opportunity to shape that view. I still think that Dick Morris' comment that Obama peaked too soon is on the money. Time will tell

[Jane]

That was simply the best special I have ever seen.

[TGO]

That was simply the best special I have ever seen.

Even better than everyone's favorite purple dinosaur special, 'Barney Goes to the Circus'? I know how impressed you were with the cinematography and story arc on that one, so this must really be gangbusters!

[centralcal]

I agree, Jane. Too often, I have felt that Fox specials somehow came up short. But, not this one. It was outstanding!

[TGO]

You know what they say about Fox specials- sooner or later you realize that they are all perfect, just like cherry blossoms.

[M. Simon]

TGO,

The reason B. Obama is mad at Bobby Rush is because Bobby is the father of Michelle's children. Bobby told Barry he had better keep quiet about it or Bobby would get Barney to do Barry again on the down low. The Rev. Wright has been paid $10 million in hush money to keep all this quiet.

[clarice]

Where was Cohen when Kerry was running and we learned that most of Teresa's money is in tax free bonds? When we learned that the Kenndy's money is in a tax-free trust in Tahiti?

[Jim Ryan]

I don't have cable. Is there a link to this special?

[hrtshpdbox]

"Even better than everyone's favorite purple dinosaur special, 'Barney Goes to the Circus'?"

No, that one was better; I love it when Barney frees the lions from their cage and, together, they eat all the liberals in the audience.

[Gmax]

An "online poll" is what you are touting? Lody mercy, where do we get these idiots?

[bgates]

Where was Cohen when Kerry was running and we learned that most of Teresa's money is in tax free bonds?

He was explaining that only a veteran of the active duty military had the moral authority to perform as Commander in Chief during wartime.

Or maybe that an attractive, youthful outsider was the ideal fit for the office of the Vice Presidency.

And probably excoriating Republicans for obstructing Democratic efforts to give half million dollar mortgages to every poor black guy in the country.

-but all that was a long time ago, Clarice. Next you'll be trying to hold up Soviet Russia - which has been defunct since the eighties - to explain why Democratic state control of the economy is a bad idea.

[Barry Dauphin]

TOGA

"Barney goes to the Circus" was an interesting special. It was about a democratic congressman giving sweetheart deals to his sweetheart at "Fannie" Mae. Well Fannie may and Fannie did. Unfortunately, while Barney was screwing his sweetheart, he made sure the rest of us got screwed too.

[M. Simon]

bgates,

Thanks for the comment at "Classical Values".

With links yet!

[Rick Ballard]

"Lordy mercy, where do we get these idiots?"

Where does slime mold come from? Is it even worth investigating? Every time Obama starts to slip the slime mold shows up in comments.

They know he's going to hit the banana peel for the last time very soon. Right now it looks like the terrorist supporters banana peel but I still think his support among felons and racists is what will finally do him in.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

The Fox Special will be repeated at 8 pm PT, 11 pm ET.

I think I'll try to take some notes this time.

[cathyf]

This morning, about somewhere in the 6-7am time frame, the farm show was interviewing somebody (might have been former Reagan agriculture secretary John Block?) who had a pretty good 2-minute explanation of how the democrats and the lawyers forced banks to lend money to bad credit risks, and killed John McCain's bill ("with 3 others") in 2005 that tried to get Fan & Fred under control, and how if the credit markets didn't get unfrozen the farmers not only weren't going to be able to get credit for seed and fertilizer in the spring, they weren't going to be able to get credit to buy diesel fuel to get the current crop out of the field.

Ok, it was pretty well hidden, but it's now recorded, on the record, and can be repeated in other times and places that get more attention.

A start, as they say.

[ben]

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3383QdT2g

A great ad by Judicial Confirmations

[Pofarmer]

....For the 2007 tax year, Todd Palin's self-employment brought him $66,893 in gross receipts: $49,893 from fishing and $17,000 from snowmachine racing. But the returns show he claimed so many deductions that he reported only $15,513 net profit from the fishing operation and claimed a $9,639 loss from his racing, leaving him with an overall net income of $5,874.

Geez, that's better money than farmin'.

[TGO]

My dad touched me in my naughty places.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Where does slime mold come from?

A very good analogy. Slime molds (Myxomycota) are single-celled amoeboid organisms (myxoamoeba) that live on rotting leaves in moist areas; under certain conditions, individual myxoamoebas will merge, giving up their individuality by joining a single, multinucleated zygote. These plasmids are the largest single-celled organisms known, and ca reach sizes into the tens of meters. These plasmids have a characteristic glossy, wet appearance, hence the name "slime mold." Often bright yellow, they can be found in the detritus of the forest floor.

Under certain conditions, the slime mold will form a fruiting body, which releases spores that are spread throughout the neighborhood, where individual spores can release contained myxoamoebas, starting the cycle again.

So, let's see: single-celled organisms, lacking intelligence, forming into large groups by giving up their individuality in order to become part of a mass, the mass itself characterized by relatively quick movement lacking in intelligence, and sporulating to spread themselves from large concentrations and move into new areas.

By George, I think we need to write this up: trolls are slime molds.

[Pofarmer]

Absolutely a gourgeous day today.

I added a few harvest pics on photobucket.

LUN to first pic.

[hrtshpdbox]

"My dad touched me in my naughty places."

He touched you at ACORN headquarters?

[Charlie (Colorado)]

You can get all the Fox news specials from Hulu. I've never tried it, but the link is there.

[belle]

Dolly Parton endorses Sarah Pallin (From Instapundit)

What do you have if Dolly Parton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden walk out on stage together?

A country western star and two of the biggest boobs you've ever seen.

It's begun...the page is turning; if we can ridicule, we can win.

[Pofarmer]

Dang it. Somebody had a link to an article or video of somebody comparing this to the farm crisis and now I can't find it, Anybody, anybody? Buhler, Buhler?

[Jane]

Cool Pofarmer. It was beautiful here too. I planted in my garden too. Not quite as big as yours.

[hit and run]

Pofarmer:
Absolutely a gourgeous day today.

I added a few harvest pics on photobucket.

AWESOME, thanks for that link to your harvest pics!

Was a beeeeautiful day here today. I was supposed to camp with hit and run jr in the woods behind our house tonight, but, er, discipline problems (his, not mine, but thanks for asking) prevented it from happening.

[SunnyDay]

I love your pictures, Pofarmer.

[clarice]

Glad you clarified whose problem that was, Hit. Too bad about the camp out though.

[Thomas Collins]

Ben, Sheldon Cohen is a respected figure in the tax world, but, unless he can point to improper deductions taken on the tax return of the Palins, he is way out of line. It is a fundamental principle of federal taxation that folks can arrange their affairs to minimize their tax burden. It has nothing to do with the kind of backroom deals and corruption that Sarah Palin is criticizing. Sheldon Cohen should be ashamed of himself.