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October 14, 2008



Today the directive has gone out from Townhouse to declare criticism of Acorn to be racist.

I'm not certain I feel reasoned debate is on the table, although I am certain Obama will always be allowed to look reasonable.


What it means is that where what he proposes to do is reasonable and doesn’t conflict with our principles, he should expect our support.

I don't expect that to be real frequent.


It doesn't matter if Obama is elected through massive voter fraud, he should be acknowledged as the legitimate President. Huh.

In that case, why have election law at all? Why have elections? Let Obama stay in office until he tires of it and appoints a successor (Michelle?), and the whole time we can say it doesn't matter whether we think Obama is violating every Constitutional and statutory check on power, he should be (at the very least!) acknowledged as the legitimate elected President of the United States.


Tom, Tom, Tom. ****I thought the 2005 debate over Bush's proposed changes to Social Security was a positive example of how issues can be debated.****

You must have dreamed this debate. The way I remember it, Democrats refused to debate and refused to offer any of their own proposals. They just said Bush's plan was no good.

Bush's plan also got no Republican support.


There's no telling what Obama will do. He could turn into a little Chavez, or maybe left to his own devices for once, he will moderate. If he moderates, and comes up with some acceptable lefty socialist programs, like a good health insurance plan, then I, as a centrist, won't have a problem with him.


It doesn't matter if Obama is elected through massive voter fraud, he should be acknowledged as the legitimate President. Huh.

-- BGates

Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity of the people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.

-- Al Gore

For the sake of comity, I’ll not even address the merits of the antecedents.


Hey don't blame Rick and Tom for their position. They are high profile bloggers and by professing to give the benefit of the doubt and support to the Maximum Leader they may avoid the camps.

Barry Dauphin

Oh, just accept cheating. Great. Good luck with that.

The whole thing is an extremely weasel-worded bunch of garbage. He essentially says nothing. He'll oppose like crazy but back the president's "play". What is that supposed to mean?

Look, support your country. If the president acts in a way consistent with your view of what's best for the country, support him/her. If not, don't. But for gawd-sakes, don't write drivel.


We've had 8 years of lefty bomb throwing Mr. Moran. Are you saying I don't get my turn?


T.Toast- I should let bgates speak for himself, but my guess is you've been too clever with your gotcha.
Hint:who still talks about Bush being "selected, not elected"? Why was "Recount" so poorly watched, yet so ballyhooed and so well-rewarded with Emmys?


Sorry, but I will never accept the Cloward-Piven candidate.


TT wants to hold up Al Gore, the man who "used to be the next President," as the paragon of acceptance of electoral results. Heh.

The difference is there was no fraud in the Republican victories. No Doodad Pro, no unanimously fake registrations in Lake County, no donations from Gaza, &c. The evidence Democrats can produce to demonstrate Republicans cheated is that a Democrat lost. The evidence Republicans can marshal is actual evidence. That may not matter to election Truthers like TT, but it's the truth.


Poopy on all that.

Obama said he is going to fundamentally change America.


Bob from Ohio

We have been told for 8 years that dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

I plan on being as patiotic as possible.

Captain Hate

I thought the 2005 debate over Bush's proposed changes to Social Security was a positive example of how issues can be debated. I have a clear recollection of distortions and over-simplifications from both sides but often enough there was a sense that people were talking to, rather than screaming past, each other.

I agree with PaulL: I can't imagine a more distorted account of that than your summary. Is the "clear recollection" seared, seared in your memory?

Today the directive has gone out from Townhouse to declare criticism of Acorn to be racist.
It's really brill how the race baiters have set this up. They named their caucus the "Congressional Black Caucus" and then whored out FM/FM to ACORN. So anyone who criticizes the whoring of FM/FM and the john (ACORN) is obviously racist. Because "Black" is right there is the official title of the pimps' organization.

I can't imagine a more distorted account of that than your summary.
TM may have been thinking of the debates over the Iraq war, prisoner interrogation, climate change, to name a few more remarkable for how rarely Democrats accused the other side of crimes against humanity.

Bill in AZ

A number of folks here, including myself on several occasions, have taken the following oath.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
Jack is Back!

Rick Moran is a softie. A smart softied but still a softie. The question is not whether Obama deserves our respect as POTUS but rather is he a legitimate POTUS or a pretender who will use his power to usher in a marxist/leninist black liberation philosophy political agenda and system. As an American I have as much right to resist his presidency as he has in promoting it. Believe me, resistance will not be futile but rewarding if we can keep the value system in America true to the original and living intent of the Constitution. You will be amazed as to how many people like me are looking forward to this resistance and how far we are willing to take it civilly. But don't be surprised that this possible presidency is more 7 Days of May than Manchurian Candidate. Avoid a 2nd Civil War and vote McCain.


So now I'm the racist? At least I provide a clean, fully functional, well heated, double pane windowed apartment to MY black tenant. Guess I should have gone the non-racist Rezmar route, eh Zero?
You guys can sing kumbaya - I'm making other plans. Oh, and make sure you get your repairs and business done early in the year, under Zero a lot of people will be taking the fall/winter season off.

bio mom

STOP BELIEVING THE POLLS!! This is still a 50-50 country. Either could win this. This board sounds like there is no need to have the election. Just go out and vote. And, again, STOP BELIEVING THE POLLS!! Garbage in=garbage out.


Is Sarah on Rush right now?


This holier-than-thou attitude seems to dove-tail nicely with the recent 'GOP Mobs need to be reined in!' meme. Synchronicity.

It's going to be a long, hard Winter for the GOP - and don't you even think payback for consolation!

kim jane il

real clear politics electoral map shows big momentum for Obama

Not counting leaners:

Obama/Biden 313
McCain/Palin 158

bio mom is right, polls can indeed be wrong.

Obama could easily get even more electoral votes than these rcp estimates.


Republicans are stupid. Rick Moran is stupid. If you seriously believe that liberals are going to be "nice" after Obama is elected (if he is), then you're a fool. They will, as they have always done, press their advantage as hard and as fast as they can. They have been the "take no prisoners" crowd for over fifty years now, and the Republicans are still saying, "Can't we all just get along?"

The irony seems completely lost on them. Terrorists? Oh, the only way to deal with them is to take the fight to them. Democrats? Oh, let's be civil and nice and all get along. (And for the brain dead trolls that hang out here, NO, I AM NOT COMPARING DEMOCRATS TO TERRORISTS.)

The liberals are the enemy. They believe in socialism and communism and think that's how America should be run. It's a complete abandonment of the Constitution. Yet Republicans want to play nice?

Our forefathers took up arms to defeat oppression. Republicans want to get along.

Is it any wonder this country is so f****d up? Jefferson et. al. are turning over in their graves at the cowardice of their heirs.


Welcome to the new politics.

Don't like Obama, have the Secret Service visit you.

Say Obama's full name at a political rally-and you happen to be government employee-well that's a Hatch Act violation.

They aren't even waiting.

Joseph Somsel

There are limits to what any citizen can or should accept. Wholesale voter fraud in a close election is a very bad start that should have us all very sensitive to further degradation of our democratic processes. If Obama pursues his political objectives through legal channels, we'll all give him the benefit of the doubt.

Any proposal or action from the Obama Administration to limit free political speech will be met with serious opposition as will criminal or civil prosecution of political opponents.

To quote WT Sherman, "If war be the remedy of my enemy's chosing, I say, give it to him."

It might be Obama's choice.

kim jane il

They believe in socialism and communism and think that's how America should be run.

Here's something that hasn't generated as much coverage as I would have expected: we plan on modifying Republican DNA with nucleic markers for easy identification. (Don't worry, a new tax will cover the costs.) It also allows us to more effectively control your breeding rates.

Once the genetic markers are in place the whole 'enslavement of Republicans' thingy will go much more smoothly.

And we have even bigger plans for the more attractive members of your newly created race, but there'll be no official announcement of that until after the election.


Barbula - I get my consolation from Bezmenov. When the real bootheel comes down, the useful idiots go first.


Joseph Somsel-

If Obama pursues his political objectives through legal channels, we'll all give him the benefit of the doubt.

Then we can call him The Legal One.


Prepare for a new America from Gateway Pundit:

PREPARE for a new America: That's the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.

He promised "fundamental changes" in US foreign policy - saying America must "heal wounds" it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the "arrogance of the Bush administration."

The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end.

Jackson believes that, although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.


This is kinda weird, via Rich's link above.

Guglielmi didn’t know the timeline for the investigation, but he said the office wants all Hatch Act violation cases finished before the election. The office is investigating hundreds of cases called in throughout the election, he noted.

So, if you are an elected Republican, you can't stump for republican candidates??

Man, the Horror of using Barry's middle name.



Sara (Pal2Pal)

So according to one of the biggest bullies in the blogosphere, I'm supposed to respect a president Obama even if he gets elected with bogus voters and turns this country into the next Cuba or Venezuela? I expect this garbage out of Moran, but from you TM, it is a surprise, if not shocking.

Obama would have enough sheep at his command to make him feel good, he won't need me to add to his already overblown ego. Sorry, but if Obama becomes president, he can rule without my respect and/or support. Fortunately I don't have any wealth to be redistributed and I have good survival skills.

Captain Hate


Holy crap Rich.

did you read the comments in that article you linked???

Captain Hate

America must "heal wounds" it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances

What wounds to what nations? What alliances need reviving? I hope Jesse took his bastard kid to the "French lakeside resort"; it would be the responsible thing to do. I'm guessing he didn't.

kim jane il

Fortunately I don't have any wealth to be redistributed

According to Republican dogma you made bad choices and deserve your lot in life.


Moran's a bully? Who knew?

I'm not sure what I'll do..probably formally change my name to I'm Not Spartacus--just in case and wait while they round up others hoping they'll be tired by the time it's my turn..
That's never worked well before , but who knows..this time it could be different.
JJ's comments sting though--I really hate the thought of giving up all that power.


Well, if that sheriff's in trouble, what about those pro-Obama assholes in Missouri?

Jane Whitman

I'm praying for grace if Obama wins. I so do not want to be like my liberal counterparts. I plan to wish the man well if he wins (or more likely steals) this election. What I don't want to be like is the trolls who hang out here.

That doesn't mean I won't criticize the man wholeheartedly and work to rescue the country I love. But I will give the system its due - and then work to make sure it never happens again. Or at least I'm planning to try.

I just have one question: Will it be inappropriate to refer to him as "ChimpyMcCastro"?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

New 8th Grade English Textbooks Now Contain 15 Page Section on Obama!

My 8th grade son is in an advanced English class at a public middle school here in Racine, Wisconsin. I just found out that my son's new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin - McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama.

I was shocked - No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush - Just Barack Obama. I'm wondering how it is that Obama's story gets put into an 8th grade literature book? It would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his "Life of Service". Honestly, what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background! Front & center is an www.obama2004.com sign.

Now I understand that many teachers are liberals, but does the school have the right to shove Obama down our kid's throats? All the kids grouped together and read the story. After that, they discussed it... I guess it appears that Obama is planning ahead. If he doesn't get his coveted Presidency, Obama is going to make sure, that the younger generations know all about him, and his "life of service".

If you would like to see the 15 page story on Obama, it appears that you can order this book online. There is a note in the book that says, For more on Barack Obama, visit the Literature Center at www.ClassZone.com The book is: Wisconsin - 8th grade - McDougal Littell Literature - copyright 2008. The Obama story starts on page 830. I hope you will take the time to look at this book. I'm really angry about this - In fact, I would love to rip the pages right out of this book.


Speaking of welcoming our new overlords, Chris Buckley has resigned from NR. He plans to take a sabbatical from writing to join Ron Reagan's ballet troupe, after which he will begin a biography of Barack Obama, tentatively titled "Thank You For Sucking".

kim jane il

Wisconsin - McDougal Littell Literature book

Next year's printing comes in an attractive red binding, that will be called:

the McDougal Littell Red Literature book

And you can order a copy once you've shown proof of your genetic marker upgrade.

kim jane il

Let the finger pointing and recriminations begin!

Bush Strategist: McCain Knows He Put Country At Risk With Palin Pick

Matthew Dowd, a prominent political consultant and chief strategist for George W. Bush's reelection campaign eviscerated John McCain on Tuesday for his choice of Sarah Palin as vice president.

Saying that Palin was a "net negative" on the ticket, he went on: "[McCain] knows, in his gut, that he put somebody unqualified on the ballot. He knows that in his gut, and when this race is over that is something he will have to live with... He put somebody unqualified on that ballot and he put the country at risk, he knows that."

Matthew Dowd

Jim Ryan

Chris Buckley has resigned from NR

Really? Thank goodness. His column was awful, a column which bumped Mark Steyn's. Can we please unbump Steyn's? Thx!


FWIW, nobody has yet told me why Palin is less qualified than Edwards. Or Barry for that matter.

Jane Whitman

From where I sit she is far more qualified than either Obama or Biden.

It's all about the spin I guess.


Jim, this from Rich Lowry at the Corner is worth quoting in full:

Chris is up with a post at The Daily Beast, "Sorry, Dad, I Was Fired." I’d like to clarify this “firing” business. Over the weekend, Chris wrote us a jaunty e-mail with the subject line "A Sincere Offer," in which he offered to resign his column on NR's back page and said that if we accepted, there "would be no hard feelings, only warmest regards and understanding." We took the offer sincerely. Chris had done us the favor of writing the column beginning seven issues ago on a "trial basis" (his words), while our regular back-page columnist, Mark Steyn, was on hiatus. Now, Mark is back to writing again, and—I'm delighted to say—will be on NR's back-page in the new issue.

Just one other point: Chris says that his Obama endorsement has generated a "tsunami," that e-mail at NRO has been running "oh, 700-to-1" against him, and that there's a debate about whether to boil him in oil or shoot him. Chris is either misinformed or exercising poetic license. We have gotten about 100 e-mails, if that (a tiny amount compared to our usual volume), and threats of cancellations in the single digits (we never like to lose any readers, but circulation is way up this year). No doubt part of what upset these readers was the dim view Chris expressed of them in his first Daily Beast post. So it goes. It's an intense election season and emotions are running high. We continue to have the highest regard for Chris's talent and wit, and extend to him warmest regards and understanding.

kim jane il

From where I sit

Then we're in agreement that Palin on your ticket was a good thing for the USA!


And from "President of the World" Obama we will have this Bill which is already sponsored by Senators Obama and Biden:

Barack Hussein Obama, George Soros, the Tobin Tax and the Tie That Binds

Have you listened well to Michelle Obama and Barrack Hussein Obama, who both have embraced the theology of the church they attended for over 20 years that teaches Black Liberation Theology, whose goal is to create racial strife, just as the stated goal of Marxist class propaganda was to whip up class war? According to this group of people, all adhere to the belief that capitalism operates according to the rules of "no profit, no production" and "can't pay, can't have." They claim that, in the world market system, capitalism is what is responsible for the desperate plight of most of the world's population, and before anything lasting and constructive can be done about this, capitalism has to go; the productive resources of the Earth have to become the common heritage of all humanity, so that production can be directed to meeting people's needs—all people's needs—instead of to making profits.


Here is a bit about Obama’s only major sponsored bill during his “career” of 143 days in the US Senate. Obama's bill has only six co-sponsors. They are Senators Maria Cantwell, Dianne Feinstein, Richard Lugar, Richard Durbin, Chuck Hagel and Robert Menendez. Not surprisingly Joe Biden and Obama see passage of this bill as a way to highlight Democratic Party priorities in the Senate.

The Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.

Back in February, Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was trying to rush Obama's "Global Poverty Act" (S.2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends. Is it any surprise why Obama picked Joe Biden as his running mate? To think that many thought he was chosen because of his “foreign affairs expertise.” We now see that they are like-minded when it comes to giving away U.S. taxpayers' money to foreign countries.

The bill, which was item number four on the committee's business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn't realize what was in it.


If elected and the one to sign this bill because Bush will not sign it, the world would see Obama as the savior of the world, the messiah, the one who has come much the same way as the leftists and the guilt-ridden white liberals who see electing him as a means of penance for racial wrongs. The remainder of the Millennium Project and Obama’s Global Poverty Bill encompasses the broader vision, which Obama has spoken of during his many speeches. Of course, hearing it depended on which crowd he was addressing when you heard him speak. "In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning 'small arms and light weapons' and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child," according to Sachs. Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims. If you have been paying attention, these are all goals that Barack Hussein Obama has expressed and said that he would implement if elected.

Jim Ryan

bgates, thanks. Steyn "hiatus." Now over. Uh, huh. Well, it's good news.

I found the C. Buckley column boring before I knew that he supported Obama, fwiw.

The change from Misanthrope to Steyn was fine, and both were good. I delight to see Misanthrope back from time to time. But the change to C. Buckley was a clunker, in my view.


So Buckley lies and whines? Yep. He's a liberal.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Watch your credit card bills. This couple ended up with a $2300 charge for a contribution they never made.

Credit Card Fraud For Obama


I've been hunting for this for a while. Finally found it today. Over at Volokh Jim Lindgren did a piece on Obama's plans for 'voluntary groups'.

Senator Barack Obama is proposing to remake American society in a way that the American public does not yet understand...

Obama's New Corps and other service programs

Sara (Pal2Pal)


Socialist Brain of a Liberal Democrat

I like the "free radical" roaming around looking for a hyphen.

kim jane il

So Buckley lies and whines?

And if he only played the victim card while he lied and whined he'd be a Republican.


Hey guys... Doesn't the election have to happen first? Personally, I don't plan on Obama becoming president, and I don't think the American people will actually pull the lever for a man of his caliber.

And if he is somehow elected, I fervently hope is that Bush appoints a few special prosecutors on his way out the door, just to make it fair. Voter fraud is already happening, and there's no way that'll get investigated otherwise. Ditto for some other important underpinnings of a free society.

As for me, I'm not following Rick Moran's lead. If the President earns my support, he'll get it. Otherwise, he won't. And if he earns the exact opposite, he'll get that in spades.

Captain Hate

C Buckley: Good riddance and take the rest of the NRO losers with you, leaving only Stein.

Who gives a rat's ass what a quisling twat like Matthew Dowd thinks. Another stuffed shirt loser with an abundance of excessive self-esteem.

Cecil Turner

Bush Strategist: McCain Knows He Put Country At Risk With Palin Pick

You mean the once-and-future Democrat who defected more than a year ago? Republicans defect to the Obama camp (May 6, 2007):

Matthew Dowd, Bush’s chief campaign strategist in 2004, announced last month that he was disillusioned with the war in Iraq and the president’s “my way or the highway” style of leadership – the first member of Bush’s inner circle to denounce the leader’s performance in office.

Although Dowd has yet to endorse a candidate, he said the only one he liked was Obama.

Yet another "strategist" who was perfectly wrong on the "surge" strategy and jumped ship as a result. Now we're supposed to be concerned with his opinion of Palin? Is that really the best you've got?

kim jane il

Doesn't the election have to happen first?

How quaint. 'The Election.' Heh.

As if we haven't already loaded the election results into all those lovely Diebold machines.

'The Election.'

That's a good one.

BTW, out of sympathy we let you keep Texas in the Red column.



This is for you. Obama is non-partisan in his election fraud shenanigans. I watched the whole thing and found it devastating.

We Will Not Be Silenced

Captain Hate

Matthew Dowd, Bush’s chief campaign strategist in 2004, announced last month that he was disillusioned with the war in Iraq

Disillusioned with a war that was won. Brilliant; no wonder KJI thinks so highly of this strategic genius.


Later tonight, Canadian election results can be found here.


OT Did anyone else catch Neil Cavuto's interview with Ron Weisflog, the guy who gave McCain what for at a recent rally?

I,m not kidding when I say that if we could get him to replace McCain on the GOP ticket with Palin in the next three weeks, they would smoke Obama/Biden and save the Republic.

McCain could take his place in the audience.


OT Did anyone else catch Neil Cavuto's interview with Ron Weisflog, the guy who gave McCain what for at a recent rally? I,m not kidding when I say that if we could get him to replace McCain on the GOP ticket with Palin in the next three weeks, they would smoke Obama/Biden and save the Republic.

McCain could take his place in the audience.

Guess I should add a link. LUN

Sara (Pal2Pal)


Florida congressman and Barack Obama Florida campaign chairman Democrat Robert Wexler has allegedly filed 25 amended FEC reports in the days immediately following Bill O'Reilly busting him in front of his Maryland home on camera.

Robert Wexler's opponent Edward Lynch seems to have a compelling argument that there is much more to this story that needs to be revealed. Wexler's campaign allegedly submitted 25 amended FEC reports between 7/23/08 (one day after O'Reilly busted him) and 7/30/08.

... more

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Obama Now Buying Ads on Video Games

Joseph Somsel

When I said "legal" as to Obama political processes, I meant that to include the Bill of Rights. Most of his programs should also be reversable - although Social Security was a program that can't be reversed.

The idea of Obama's "national service programs" almost sounds like a Praetorian Guard as protection against a military coup or maybe cover for a Chavezian "neighborhood watch".

Paranoia does have its pleasures, does it not?


It almost sounds like we have a genuine culture of coruption going on among the Dims. Too bad nobody will cover it. Not nearly as juicy as sending e-mails to young adults or bumping around in a bathroom stall.


Thanks for the Wexler tip Sara. I've blogged it and h/t'd you.


Ill Kim Jane, knows how to pick them, doesn't she?


Hey guys... Doesn't the election have to happen first?

Voter fraud is already happening ,…

Let me get this straight - the election hasn’t happened yet but it has already been “stolen”? Is this a real argument? Sounds more like a tear in the space/time continuum or some other such staple of science fiction.

Early voting has indeed started in some states, but there has been no credible evidence of any voter “fraud”. Voter registration has skyrocketed, but, to paraphrased many: registration fraud and voter fraud are not close to the same thing; a significant increase in voter registrations will obviously include a corresponding increase in bogus registrations; completed voter registration forms, from whatever source, must be submitted to election officials so that they can make a determination of validity; and “Mickey Mouse” has almost certainly not voted and almost certainly won’t. Moreover, Gallup has two likely voter screens in its daily track to adjust for the increase in voter registration. Obama is substantially leading under either screen. If “fraud” will result in a “stolen” election, why don’t the polls reflect it? Is Gallup (and, for that matter, all of the other pollsters) in the “fraud tank” as well?

Its amazing to find that, after 8 years of GWB, a financial meltdown, a looming recession and a pathetically erratic McCain campaign, the majority of this board can’t seem to find any explanation for Obama’s lead other than “fraud”. Do we need some kind of razor here?

J Verner

In Germany in the 1930s, was it patriotic to say " If elected, Adolf Hitler will be my president."

Just asking. He was, you know...elected.


Naomi Wolf is an idiot.

Jane Whitman

kim jane il,

Please don't try to engage me. I'm not into trolls.


registration fraud and voter fraud are not close to the same thing

Well except for the small detail that vote fraud requires registration fraud first. A fraudulant voter first has to register fraudulantly. So one assumes that if registration fraud is widespread enough to influence polling ... that is so not likely to be the one and only reason to do it.


"the majority of this board can’t seem to find any explanation for Obama’s lead other than “fraud”.

There are plenty of other reasons...smoke and mirrors, hope and change, koolaid, the MSM's failure to identify Obama as an unqualified lightweight,etc. And of course, the support of those interest groups that think he will give them a lot of free goodies and those who think they will be on the gaining side of wealth distribution. But in any event it is fraud any way you look at it.


registration fraud and voter fraud are not close to the same thing

And registration fraud happens because...???


The thing that bugs me about C.Buckley his reasoning could have been used to support Kerry in 04.Pretty wimpy to wait until Dad dies to set your inner liberal free

J Verner

And let's remember who were talking about--

The man Louis Farakahn is calling the "messiah."

The man Jessie Jackson just said would end Zionist control over Washington.

And these are two men who know him a hell of a lot better than we do. He's their home bro.
And we could go on and on.

I might be more inclined to agree with Rick if 90% of the new registered voters who might push the dems over the edge this time--and perhaps forever--were not as dumb as dirt clods, and only care about the $1,000 check they've been promised. That's how republics end up being something else altogether.

Doesn't look good folks. Taking all of our money away may just be the least of our problems.


On the bright-side C.Buckley leaving NR will open a room on their cruise.Someone could jump in there and grab a room.I bet it is a nice one


There will always be people like TT who will see no hint of election fraud without a Republican victory to "prove" it. For those who are not blinded by partisanship, Obama's long-term association with an organization which has registered nonexistent voters in several states is troubling, as are Obama's denial of that association. Obama's party's adamant stance against voter identification is troubling. Obama's refusal to release information about small donors is troubling. The hordes of illegal donations discovered in cursory investigations of Obama campaign records is troubling.
TT of course has no interest in this mountain of evidence. What on earth do fraudulently inflating the voter rolls and preventing clear identification of voters at the ballot box have to do with vote fraud? Obviously if the rolls increase, sometimes his candidate's pet organization will submit a batch of thousands of unanimously fake applications. Instead he points to - polls. Polls which overstated support for Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, and for Obama (v Clinton) in primary contests earlier this year. TT's hypothesis is that, hey, maybe this time the polls are right! -and if not, the existence of polls showing the Democrat with a lead in October disproves even the possibility of election fraud.
Unless the Republican wins.


Early voting has indeed started in some states, but there has been no credible evidence of any voter “fraud”.

The homeless bodies who voted early will also be dragged in to vote on election day. They'll simply be given different names.

The only registration fraud caught is duplicates and non-existent addresses. Nobody has caught the legitimate names/addresses of people who did NOT register but who will magically 'appear' on election day.

J Verner

Jean, I think you're right. Mr. Buckley has daddy issues--perhaps not unlike Ron Reagan Jr. His endorsement of Obama is fine by me. He should be his own man. And let's cross our fingers that he is right, and Obama will rise to the occasion.

Though while I doubt Sarah Palin would have been WFB's type, does anyone think that if alive, he would be supporting Obama and thrashing MCCain in the pages of NRO--especially when considering what Stanley Kurtz is coming up with?

It seems to me that Obama is just the sort of person WFB spent his life fighting against.


One of the complaints I heard over and over in Wisconsin, was how sick and tired everyone is with the election. Many of them claim they automatically stop listening to anything that sounds political, including voter fraud.

Since most of the people I eavesdropped on claimed to be independants, I found that info disconcerting.


Gee, a vote fraud already? When's Election Day?

Anyway, like I said, it'll never be investigated if Omana wins unless a special prosecutor is named by Bush, and I'd bet money that McCain would squash it, too.

But let's not forget that A Vote For Obama is a Vote For Civility.

Thomas Jackson

MoRAN HAS DRUNK DEEPLY OF THE kOOL aID FOR QUITE A WHILE. I pledge I will give the same respect the MSM and dhimmieerats showed Bush. I pledge the same good humor that SNL has always displayed. I will honor an Obama presidency in the same way Dowd and the other trolls at the NY Times honored any Republican. I swaer to conduct myself in a manner that would do honor to the DU and Kod Kiddies, as well as their sponsors.

So what if the election is stolen? So what if we will see military votes uncounted yet again. I pledge not to drink the same Kool Aid that Moran drinks so deeply of.



The whole things puts me in mind of narration in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels*:

The skinny one is Tom. And he's the entrepreneur of the bunch. He's got a couple of dirty little fingers in a couple of dirty little pies.

Nick here, however, has made it his business to have all 20 fat little fingers and toes in every dirty, bent and stolen pie in London. Between the two of them, there ain't much you can't get hold of.

Cast the parts to your choosing, maybe replace London with "Leftdom." I'm sure Hit and Run will appreciate the foodstuffs involved.
*I fixed a couple errors in the transcription.

kim jane il

Please don't try to engage me. I'm not into trolls.

Eeeeeew! As if!



As if, indeed. You could never get that lucky.


Has anyone here read anything about what happened to Romney? Why he isn't campaigning? Is it just McCain's hatred of him?


Joseph Somsel-

You caught that. The O salute has a more sinister begining as well.

jim Rhoads aka vnjagvet

There is a certain strain of romanticism running through the pro-BHO forces. I put Chris Buckley in that camp. BHO is in Chris's age cohort and of a similar educational pedigree. I have a hunch that Chris feels a kinship with BHO that he doesn't feel with JSM or Gov. Palin. He probably does believe he BHO will rise to the occasion, and hopes he does.

But I think his emotions have gotten the better of him here. One simply must be blind to BHO's philosophy (as expressed in his writings, votes and political allies) as well as his uniformly leftward political record to think he will not lean left when faced with tough decisions.

As much as I want to see a man of African descent rise to the highest office in the land (and I want that very much), I cannot ignore his political predilections. Nor do I think anyone else should.

That's not racist in any fair definition of the term.


C. Buckley.Sometimes greatness skips a generation

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Why he isn't campaigning?

He is campaigning and raising money. I just saw him commenting after the last debate.


I'm glad to hear Romney is bringing in some dough. But I don't see any evidence of him changing the minds of undecided voters.


Via Hot Air, Marc Ambinber has this quote from McCain's pollster:

The financial tsunami has produced one of the most difficult and volatile times to conduct polling in modern times. During these uniquely volatile last few weeks, I have seen as much day-to-day movement as I have witnessed in my 20 plus year career as a pollster.

Add this nuggest to the mix, and I'm sure the lefties can whip up a first rate conspiracy theory.

J Verner

Jim, we know that he leans left--the question is, how much will he pull left.

I wouldn't treat Obama like the truthers and the Bush as monkeyhitlers treated our current pres., although I'm certainly going to keep my eyes open.

He would have to prove himself before I ever call him "my" president.



You mean conservatives aren't going to flee north if Stephen Harper remains the Prime Minister?

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