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October 10, 2008

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Jane Whitman

I hope she plays Tina Fey.

kim

Oh, my God, they're gonna harpoon Obama.
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sylvia

REO Speedwagon - they sound better and better with age.

Cecil Turner

For this she is qualified

I find that mildly offensive. Not sure if she's qualified for comedy (it can be hard), but she's a pretty darn good Governor, and I suspect she'd not be a bad President. The relentless pounding from the media is apparently taking its toll, but I certainly will not support it.

Biden and Obama might be a bit more glib talking around issues (as they get them consistently wrong), but that's hardly a rational definition of "qualified." Being capable of ramming a bipartisan gas pipeline plan through a balky legislature (and down the throats of oil company execs, along with a well-deserved punitive tax) is an example of an actual qualification.

The utter stupidity of the liberal Tina Fey talking point (and the little web poll with 2/3 saying they'd rather have her as VP) is hard to overstate. Get back to me when one of those idiots actually accomplishes something.

LurkingMom

My first thought on this is that it had better not be true. It is so beneath Palin; how can it do the McCain/Palin campaign any good?

SNL has repeatedly teased that Palin would be on and then produced Tina Fey as a shallow, ridiculous stereotype of Palin. My view is that the Fey skits, clips run endlessly on radio and TV news in lieu of clips from the real Palin, are nothing more than campaign ads for Obama.

On the other hand, since O is buying half-hour TV spots for his propaganda, maybe the only way McCain/Palin can compete is to use SNL as a podium. How will she control the message?

clarice

She's gonna knock them dead. She's a natural before a camera ..

bgates

An appearance live on national tv with a woman who hates her.

At least Couric was taped.

How easy will it be for them to embarrass her in this format? Not just the stuff they've been doing, but ad lib sketches in new directions, make up after-the-fact stories that she was a diva on set, give her bad material (they've been perfecting an alibi for the latter for decades)....

And I second Cecil's complaint. I'd rather have her in charge than anybody else in this campaign, or anybody save Cheney from the last five.

Charlie (Colorado)

I'm on Clarice's side. Live is better, not worse: they can't fuck her in the editing like Couric and Gibson did. And the camera loves her, and audiences love her. She'll kill.

TexasToast

I'd rather have her in charge than anybody else in this campaign, or anybody save Cheney from the last five.

Wow. Really?

centralcal

bgates: I'd rather have her in charge too!

hrtshpdbox

Sarah will be fantastic on SNL, and the cast and audience will love here. By the way, if anyone hasn't read the lengthy comments about Palin by liberal feminist Obama-supporter Camille Paglia, they should (LUN): Paglia thinks Palin is smart and terrific, and the criticism of her pathetic. Of the Fey impression she says:
"I think Tina Fey's witty impersonations of Palin have been fabulous. But while Fey has nailed Palin's cadences and charm, she can't capture the energy, which is a force of nature."

MD

Awwwwww, I think she's qualified for more than an SNL routine, even if she is inexperienced. Time will tell.....

OT: you know, people will complain (okay, I will certainly complain!) about our political class, but, how much you all wanna bet that a bunch of Washington types will be re-elected for, like, the thousandth time? Ugh. Although, 'throwthebumsout' doesn't really work - every time we vote the bums out, we get a whole new group of bums! What to do?

Cecil Turner

Wow. Really?

Really really. (Though if I were a BLT believer looking for reparations--or possibly an anti-war activist praying for a political war crimes tribunal--I might think differently.)

Jim Ryan

Really?

Yes. Wouldn't you? Oh, I forgot, Palin's not a narcissistic lawyer or a status-quo pol shoveling pork for votes.

Go ahead and keep putting jackasses in office, Toast, doing "the same thing over and over again and expecting different results," as Einstein called it.

Jane Whitman

I'd rather have her in charge too!

Me too.

kim jane il

Say chaco, how about that 'Dow 10000 by Friday' call? Do you think we're in for a 25% run up today?

Pal of the Janes

Me too!

JANEBUILDER

Me too. Especially the Cheney part.

bgates

Wow. Really?
This from a guy whose favorite part of the last two years of Pelosi/Reid is looking forward to the next two years of Pelosi/Reid.

Zen thought for the day:
If Bush had pointed out that Saddam Hussein was not only a warmongering genocidal megalomaniac who supported terrorism and had been working on nuclear weapons for decades (with more success than any Western intelligence agency had thought possible), but also the effective CEO of his nation's oil companies, Oliver Stone would be making "Why We Fight" pictures.

kim

Don't worry, Texas Toast, she will be in charge, soon enough. Short of assassination, which I fear.
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centralcal

Actually, Sarah is the only reason I am HAPPILY voting for McCain.

Otherwise, I would be voting for JohnnyMac only because I don't want to live in a Socialist country, ruled by a Socialist President and his bulldog wife.

kim

kji, he didn't say which Friday, did he?

BTW, I appreciate you dropping the double underlining. You've had some interesting posts.
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Pal of the Janes

Obama mocks the Bible

Janealot

She'll kill. I'd rather have her make a presidential decision than anybody in the White House since Reagan.

Charlie (Colorado)

Wrong thread, Ill.

kim

Yeah, PotJ, he is such a shallow Christian, if one at all. I think he's too cynical to be one.
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Pal of the Janes

'Undecided Voter' at Debate Wrote for Lefty Website

kim

Ooh, nice links, Pal. From Chicago, no less. And an activist. Undecided about just how to weasel his way into an Obama administration is apt.
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Mitch H.

Who cares who was in the 'town hall' audience? Brokaw asked all the questions anyways. They were just there as wallpaper.

Jane Whitman

OT; Rezko is singing and it is getting closer to Obama - LUN

Antimedia

LurkingMom writes "My first thought on this is that it had better not be true. It is so beneath Palin; how can it do the McCain/Palin campaign any good?

SNL has repeatedly teased that Palin would be on and then produced Tina Fey as a shallow, ridiculous stereotype of Palin. My view is that the Fey skits, clips run endlessly on radio and TV news in lieu of clips from the real Palin, are nothing more than campaign ads for Obama."

Do you have any idea how condescending you sound? If Palin is qualified to be "one heartbeat away" as the liberal mantra goes, she certainly ought to be able to hold her own against a bunch of average to below average comedians.

Have some faith in Sarah. She has performed admirably under the most intense, white hot heat that any politician has been subjected to in my lifetime (60+ years). The press has been beyond brutal, yet Sarah keeps smiling, refuses to give up (Michigan), and is on the offensive against Obama (and against McCain's timid instincts.)

There's only one reason that I will vote for McCain next month, and it ain't McCain. Sarah will keep McCain in line when he becomes President.

Porchjane

I agree - have a little faith. Sarah has done fantastically in her "live" TV performances to date (RNC and VP debate). Every time, people get nervous beforehand. Every time, she impresses.

PeterUK

I agree,Sarah Palin is made for television,personality and charisma Senator Boring Biden hasn't an earthly.

PeterUK

"Though if I were a BLT believer looking for reparations-"


What is this Bacon Lettuce and Tomato movement,some kind of religion?

Will Wills

SNL knows the VP debate was huge ratings. Watch the ratings for Oct 25th go through the roof. Highest ever. And they will have her back for the sweeps.

Remember how endearing Reagan was with self-deprecation, Sarah Palin is the most comfortable person since Reagan because she isn't making it up like the others.

If they can persuade her.

clarice

It is to me..

Pal of the Janes

Toughest ad I've seen yet. Wake up folks!

ACORN

Pal of the Janes

Barack "Osama" on NY county ballots.

TROY — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's last name is spelled "Osama" on hundreds of absentee ballots mailed out this week to voters in Rensselaer County.

I hope the printer knows how to spell TOAST.

Sue-Jane

I hope the election supervisor is a democrat.

clarice

That is a grade A ad,Pal.

PeterUK

"I hope the printer knows how to spell TOAST."

That should be TOABT.

Daddy

Global Warming Update;

Last night a huge wind storm accompanied by extreme turbulence and severe icing clobbered Anchorage airport. At least 10 widebody jets inbound to Anchorage from all over the lower 48 had to divert 250 miles north, and are now parked out in a congo line on a taxiway at Fairbanks, waiting for gas and for conditions to improve down in Anchorage. It is amazing to look out on the ramp and see these huge planes lined up like an L.A. traffic jam. Mother Nature was very ornery last night. My Co-pilot's 8 year old daughter goes to grade school with Piper Palin and says she is way cool!

Porchjane

It's a great ad but it's 90 seconds long and I'm not sure it's going to make it to TV. Please, Team McCain, get these ads out where they can do some good.

Extra Jane Whitman

Yes, good ad, Pal of ours.

kim

"Too risky for America" really feeds into the anxiety. Good call, old Pal.
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Charlie (Colorado)

Daddy, you drive for a living? What aircraft?

Daddy

MD-11.

Charlie (Colorado)

*sigh*

I wanted to do that. Couldn't pass a physical.

Jim Ryan

*sigh*

Take revenge on fortune: take up hang gliding.

Ronald Reagan

Hi, it's me again. Climbing out of my grave to tell you the Sarah Palin/SNL story is only from Fox News-it has not been verified. I know you guys love to get your "facts" from Fox, but sometimes it's good to have more info.

Daddy

Thankfully they were reduced to scraping the bottom of the barrel when I showed up. I was sick to death of waiting tables in Boulder and 3 weeks later I was running around bald-headed and screaming in Pensacola.

Charlie (Colorado)

Okay, Obama has officially lost Jake Tapper:

Does Obama Still Think Ayers Has Been ‘Rehabilitated’? No, Says his Campaign

That would be a one-day flip-flop by the way.

Charlie (Colorado)

Hi, it's me again.

Dude.

Could you stop by and smack McCain around a bit?

Charlie (Colorado)

Yes, that would indeed be the physical I failed. When were you in Boulder?

Elliott

I was discussing the Luntz focus groups' reactions to the debates with someone yesterday when I suddenly remembered what I'd heard either a pollster or a political consultant say back in 2004, namely, that people conducting focus groups generally desire homogeneity among the participants. Here's the thinking behind that:

In determining the composition of individual focus groups, compatibility is the key concern. When the participants perceive each other as fundamentally similar, they can spend less time explaining themselves to each other and more time discussing the issues at hand.

While "[s]imilarities on key experiences can also override demographic differences," I doubt that the fact the people in the cable news focus groups haven't decided who to vote for qualifies as such a similarity. This lack of homogeneity and the knowledge of the participants that what they say will be seen by millions leads me to believe the information we are getting from them is unreliable.

Charlie (Colorado)

Jim at Gateway Pundit has a good cartoon.

Daddy

Mork and Mindy days. Late 77 to mid 78...after graduating from UNC Chapel Hill. Interesting how our paths probably crossed a few times over the years.

Charlie (Colorado)

Yup. Ever do any Creative Anachronist things?

Cecil Turner

. . . the Sarah Palin/SNL story is only from Fox News . . .

Apparently some dead presidents don't follow links so well.

I was running around bald-headed and screaming in Pensacola.

Real men did their bald-headed screaming in Quantico. Same stimulus, though.

Charlie (Colorado)

Nah, the bald headed screaming in Quantico is done by complete nutcases.

Cecil Turner

I guess I could argue that . . . but my heart wouldn't be in it.

Tom (Fairbanks, AK)

Cecil: by chance, was your bald-headed screaming in Quantico preceded by long-haired howling in Fairbanks? The name rings a bell . . .

Elliott

To follow up on my focus group post, I'd like to empasize the beginning of Charlie's Tuesday AT article, What if McCain knows what he's doing?:

Sometimes, if I'm puzzled by someone's actions, I like to ask myself "if he's really smarter than I am, why would he be doing what he's doing?"

You can learn a lot that way. Unfortunately, the American Chattering Classes often operate on the opposite assumption: "if I don't see the point of this, that other guy must be an idiot."

I think that Charlie's approach is especially worthwhile given that campaigns have more information than those observing them or reporting on them do. Cable news may do focus groups, but they aren't going to be the same kind of focus groups the campaigns do. From what I've read, campaign polling and public polling do have areas of overlap, but even then campaigns poll on things public pollsters don't. And yet, as Charlie pointed out, the tendency is to analyze campaigns' actions using what we know, without knowing what they know.

Cecil Turner

Er, as a matter of fact, yes. You have the advantage of me, sir.

Tom (Fairbanks, AK)

Cecil:

Lathrop Hall, 1977-early 80's. The statutes of limitations have all run, but we're both old & respectable now so I won't reminisce publicly . . .

Pal of the Janes

I am very sad to announce that as much as I want Sarah Palin to have the win, as of this afternoon I can no longer give John McCain my vote. I will vote for down ballot Republicans and write-in Mitt Romney.

I cannot give my vote to a candidate who tells his rally audience they need to be respectful towards Obama and that he would be a good president.

McCain had the win with the base alone after he named Palin. He no longer needed to pander to those phony baloney self-proclaimed independents or the left. He has now shown me that those votes are more important to him than my own, so I'm not going to give him my vote.

I despise everything the left and Obama stand for, I am infuriated to the point of gagging at the way the media has and is behaving in this election, and I'm livid at the democrats and their RINO cohorts that have brought this country down.

I don't want a candidate telling me I have to be "respectful" when I'm this damn angry. They say you could hear a pin drop when McCain said this. He is lucky they didn't storm the stage. Watch his poll numbers really plummet now.

This is not a tea in the Admiral's drawing room, this is a down and dirty barroom brawl and I want a fighter and someone who wants to WIN not pander. I am in no mood to be "respectful," I am in the mood to tear someone a new one and say DON'T F*CK WITH ME!

Pal of the Janes

McCain vetoes aides’ proposals to go after Obama on Wright, too

MayBee
I despise everything the left and Obama stand for

One thing the left has stood for recently is complete disrespect and hatefulness toward their political opponents.

Tom (Fairbanks, AK)

POJ:

While I share some of your sentiment, the real battle is not to see which side's already-convinced can get more worked up. The victory will be determined by who can convert the larger number of undecideds to their point of view. Foaming at the mouth is notoriously poor at accomplishing that aim.

Cecil Turner

The statutes of limitations have all run . . .

Yea verily! If you would, shoot me an e-mail: turnercg1@hotmail.com

PD

MayBee: There's a difference between despising what someone stands for and despising that someone.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

The victory will be determined by who can convert the larger number of undecideds to their point of view.

This is total B.S. There are no undecideds at this point. And, like I said, McCain didn't need any, even if there are, because after he picked Palin, he had the base, lock, stock and barrel.

McCain is patronizing and pandering. For every faux undecided he might pick up at this point, he is losing 2-5 supporters. There is a total disconnect between what his campaign is doing and what he is saying.

Cecil Turner

There are no undecideds at this point.

I suspect there are quite a few. There are even more who are on the fence as to whether they'll go to the polls or not . . . and I tend to agree with Tom that angrier isn't better.

But the bigger issue in my estimation is that the public is blaming the current crisis on the GOP. If that continues, it'll be a bloodbath. McCain needs to get a message, now, that the Dems caused this mess (luckily, it happens to be true) . . . and stay on it. Ayers and Wright can support that message (in the sense that leftist economic stupidity combined with leveraged entitlement inspired the CRA brainchild and the subsequent trillion-dollar enhancement that blew up Wall Street), but pointless sniping just obscures the main point. And as he's got one last opportunity to get that across . . .

MayBee

PD- That's not my point. Pal of the janes said this: I don't want a candidate telling me I have to be "respectful" when I'm this damn angry.

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I would prefer not to head into the hateful, completely disrespectful swamps the left has wallowed in these last years.
One can be respectful and hit hard at the same time.
For heaven's sake, does nobody see what the media is doing to McCain? They are saying he's inciting violence against Obama.
Creating an atmosphere of hate. It's the same thing they did to Clinton.

McCain is walking a fine line here. Why hate on him for asking people to be respectful? He had to do it to show he's not trying to get Obama killed.

hrtshpdbox

A write-in vote for Mitt Romney is the same thing as voting for Obama. So is sitting at home on election day and fuming because McCain wasn't nasty enough on the stump.

Porchjane

I'm angry, too, Sara. But sitting out the electon - or G-d forbid encouraging others to do so - is absolutely unacceptable to me at this point. The stakes are too high.

kim jane il

Dems caused this mess (luckily, it happens to be true)

Enjoy your time in the wilderness, where you'll most likely remain until you can admit your party's failures.

Oh, and 'not being Republican enough' is just self-flattery, not introspection.

Porchjane

Good point, MayBee. This is an extension of the race card strategy - paint McCain and his supporters as rabid.

They are itching to push their "McCain is an angry old man" meme - he can't give them that kind of ammunition.

bgates

I would prefer not to head into the hateful, completely disrespectful swamps the left has wallowed in these last years.
I've been practicing against that eventuality.

"Gee, I'd certainly prefer if my parents' entire estate wasn't confiscated upon their death."

"If it's all the same to you fellows, let's have a more vigorous response to nuking Tel Aviv than sending a letter."

&c.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

He didn't just say to be respectful, he said that his supporters should not be afraid of an Obama presidency. And he has made it clear that Wright is off the table and that he doesn't really care what Ayers stands for, all he cares about is Obama not being candid about their relationship.

A write-in vote for Mitt Romney is the same thing as voting for Obama.

I understand this argument. I just made it myself to a friend who is writing in Ron Paul.

But, I'd be willing to bet that a large number of McCain's heretofore supporters are now going to stay home. After all, if there is nothing to be afraid of, why bother to go vote at all?

This was a major humongous mistake by McCain today and the media is already picking up on it. Anyone think the Obama campaign will be "respectful" as they throw this back in McCain's face over and over again for the next 20+ days?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

They are itching to push their "McCain is an angry old man" meme - he can't give them that kind of ammunition.

Why not? His supporters want him to get angry. They want to see some passion. It is the Obama supporters and their media sycophants who are pushing that meme.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I'm angry, too, Sara. But sitting out the electon - or G-d forbid encouraging others to do so - is absolutely unacceptable to me at this point. The stakes are too high.

Tell the damn candidate. He is the one who seems to be pushing the sit out meme, not me. I only speak for myself.

JM Hanes

Sara:

"McCain didn't need any, even if there are, because after he picked Palin, he had the base, lock, stock and barrel."

Not really sure how that works with this:

"For every faux undecided he might pick up at this point, he is losing 2-5 supporters."

Do you really believe McCain can win just by locking up the Palin friendly segment of the base do you? The only thing they can really do is make sure he loses -- whether by staying home, or by compelling him to spend his time trying to keep conservatives on the reservation instead of going after the votes he needs that are further afield. Angry complaints from the right doesn't just discourage voters witin the GOP either.

Asserting that there are no undecideds may make you feel better about abandoning ship, but I seriously doubt that punishing McCain by electing Obama will look nearly so good on Jan. 20th. One of the reasons that polling is so unreliable when it comes to predictions is the number of people who do, in fact, make last minute decisions. If you choose to ignore what polling data we do have, then you've got virtually no basis for making any assertions about the current state of the race in the first place.

kim jane il

After all, if there is nothing to be afraid of, why bother to go vote at all?

Shorter Republican platform:

Vote Fear... Or Else

Sara (Pal2Pal)

You think it is just me?

Dan Riehl:

Obama's base that is. Stick a fork in this idiot. He's trying to play it both ways. At this point, his campaign looks schizophrenic and he just looks stupid. Take down the ads and give it up if you're done. Stop wasting people's time and money.

LAKEVILLE, Minn.-- Republican rage against Barack Obama claimed a new victim today: John McCain.

McCain was booed at a town-hall meeting here when he rebuked a man who said he was "scared…to bring a child up" under an Obama presidency. "I have to tell you he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States," McCain said to audible disapproval.

SunnyDay

What in the hell is wrong with McCain. He doesn't have any fight in him. Nobody was doing anything wrong. the media creates a tempest in a teapot, and he backs down. who needs it? He's all talk - more scared of the press than he is of our country being sucked into socialism. We;re halfway there now.

Anger at these crooks and liars is entirely appropriate. There is something wrong with people who know and are not angry. Look what they've done!!!!


Barbara

McCain can and should continue to hammer the Democrat Congress and its resistance to to doing anything to even address, let alone correct, the problems at Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac that brought about this financial crisis. The Ayers/Wright/Rezko, et al information will continue to garner attention through other sources. McCain doesn't have to step into that cesspool in order to question Obama's experience or judgement.

Staying home or writing in a name rather than voting for McCain will bring about a situation far worse than 2006 when voters thought they'd teach those Republicans a lesson. We ended up paying too high a price for that moral stance.

centralcal

Nobody is more angry with McCain than me. I really cannot stand the man. Every time I think I can actually root for him (and do) he turns around and does something that just makes me want to scream (and, I do that too.)

However, we have less than three weeks left and I am not willing to let my anger and my disgust with McCain overtake my good sense. Barack Obama is the wrong man for this country. Barack Obama is the wrong man for the future of this country. John McCain is not the answer either. But, the fact is that we only have these two to choose from. I will vote for John McCain. I will never like him.

I think Sarah gives us a glimpse of the future. She has nothing to lose in this election . . . she can waltz off back to Alaska if she loses. I hope that she instead waltzes off the Vice Presidency in DC, where she can observe and learn and, when the time comes, take up the mantle of leadership on her own terms.

Dave

One of the funnier SNL things that I've seen in recent years was McCain's 2002 appearance. They did a Meet The Press with "Russert" asking McCain if he was running in '04, and when McCain said that he was pretty sure that the President was running for reelection, "Russert" asked "what if Bush forgets to run?"

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Look while you guys have been obsessing about proving dates on the Ayers-Obama relationship, I've been harping on what, in my belief, is really important. The core beliefs that Obama shares with Ayers. Capitalism is evil, corporations are agents of capitalism so even more evil. Religious people are dangerous, and on and on. Diamond calls it neo-Stalinism.

I think the country is headed to its downfall and I'm beginning to believe that those of the Ayers' persuasion, most lefties, are responsible for hastening this downfall thru manipulation and corruptness in the financial markets. I think McCain is satisfied just to have won the right to be the candidate and doesn't really want to win. I've lost all respect for him.

JM Hanes

Sara:

"Republican rage against Barack Obama claimed a new victim today: John McCain."

Couldn't have summed it up better myself.

kim jane il

Look what they've done!!!!

Yes, Bush and the Republicans certainly have screwed the pooch this time, haven't they?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I think Sarah gives us a glimpse of the future. She has nothing to lose in this election . . . she can waltz off back to Alaska if she loses.

Not true. She will go back to Alaska damaged goods. The left has seen to that and her running mate has done nothing to protect her from this personal destruction. I am terribly sorry for her because I want her to have the win.

Porchjane

This was a major humongous mistake by McCain today and the media is already picking up on it.

And you are helping them.

centralcal

"She will go back to Alaska damaged goods."

In what way? What hyperbole. She is a woman who has a good life (and is a good person) and she can certainly return to it with her head held high, whether or not she pursues further political ambitions or not.

She is in no way "damaged goods."

kim jane il

Capitalism is evil, corporations are agents of capitalism so even more evil. Religious people are dangerous, and on and on. Diamond calls it neo-Stalinism.

Well, I'm certainly glad to see you haven't slipped into some sort of irrational rage on this.

Hint: Not everything you read on right wing blogs is true. I know, I know, it's hard to believe. But yeah; there's a lot of hyperbole out there, even on freerepublic.

MayBee

I don't know. There's fight, and there's Michelle Malkin-fight. I don't want to see McCain please the people calling for the latter.

bgates

I won't stay home, but Sara's right to be horrified. If one candidate says the other candidate is a senile warmongering racist fool who will poison the atmosphere, hold Klan rallies on the White House lawn, and nuke any country that fits a Beach Boys lyric, and the second guy says the first guy is basically ok, how can the second guy possibly win? How can the second guy's supporters even make an argument for him if the candidate concedes every point his opponent makes is substantially correct?

Jim Ryan

I'm not afraid of anything. 'Ceptin' sharks.

The "scares me" meme has got to go. Socialism is a bad fate, and we should resist it resolutely. But we should never fear it. Bullies thrive on fear. Socialists are bullies. The will use force to constrain your liberty drastically. Don't be afraid of them, but stare them down. Many politically naive people will side with the bully against the intimidated. Few will side with the bully against the fearless.

Say "despise" or "detest" the plan the Democrats have for remaking American government according to their fancy. That's enough.

Never fear anything.

bgates

She is in no way "damaged goods."
Politically she is, or will be if McCain loses. She'll still be a good person, and her husband will still love her and her kids will be ok (aside from her first born, whose life will be as endangered as the rest of the military if Obama wins).

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