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October 01, 2008

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sbw

... provided Cashman can keep the bull pen filled with healthy pitchers who can move a fastball and hit their spots.

Sue

Baseball...bah hum bug...

rhodeymark

I figured this bailout bull had you drinking early... confirmed.

Charlie (Colorado)

Although the next few weeks of "baseball" are rendered meaningless due to the absence of New York teams,....

Nonesense. The absence of the Yankees, in particular, is one of the few bright points of the last month.

Appalled

If the Yankees and/or Mets were in the playoffs, public sentiment would be influenced by ESPN bias (and icky sentimental pieces) to rebel violently against any assistance for Wall Street, on the grounds of its proximity to stadiums that can't get ripped down soon enough.

Is there some wierd symbolism that both NY stadiums are being retired this year? Or that despite all the money in the world, the yankess couldn't win enough to have a chance, and the Mets for the second year running through their chance away?

Thomas Collins

Angels-Cubs? How boring. I want to see Manny patrolling left field at Fenway again (albeit in an opposing uniform), so I'm hoping for Red Sox-Dodgers.

No New York teams? Not a great loss. I lost interest in the Yankees after Mickey Mantle retired (I saw him play at Yankee Stadium when the Monuments were actually on the field). I enjoyed the Mets when Casey Stengel was the manager (and the Houston team was called the Colt 45s, which if they were still called that today would probably send the libs into a frenzy) and also followed the Mets in their 1969 miracle season.

Although I live in the Boston area, I don't hate the Yankees. My oldest child and I were actually treated fairly well by the Bronx Bomber fans when we went to a Yankees-Red Sox regular season game in Yankee Stadium in 2004 (although we were subjected to some "1918" chants as a result of my daughter wearing a Sox shirt to the game). I guess the 1918 chants have stopped, haven't they, TM?

bunky

Go Phils!!

Chris

I for one am energized by the playoffs BECAUSE there are no New York teams in. It would be even better if the Redsox were eliminated as well.

matt

as a life long Angels and Dodgers fan, I am as happy as can be that the Yanks and Mets are out of it (sorry Tom, my grandfather was an usher at Ebbetts Field). Now if we can just do the same for Boston, Tampa Bay, Chicago and whatever poseur the National League contests decide, I'll be even happier.

Angels baseball under Scoscia is some of the most exciting in the game these days. You're never sure if they'll pull it out, but no team has been more creative in the late innings when they're down. Little ball. Running it out. Long ball. It doesn't seem to matter. they come through.

The middle relief is an issue and the overall team batting average is not where it should be, but they always seem to come pull it out. 50 wins at home and 50 away.

Captain Hate

I'm counting on the Mets to have a September meltdown until they prove otherwise.

Jane

Although I live in the Boston area, I don't hate the Yankees.

Blasphemy!

Jane

oops

Rocco

If Becket is healthy Sox in a sweep. If Beckett can't pitch Sox in a sweep.


Neo

Philly wins 3-1

SteveMG

the Yankees will ride CC Sabathia and Chien Ming Wang all the way to rings.

Add Teixeira, another starter (two or three if Mussina and Pettitte retire) an outfielder plus a new Mets bullpen and hey, looks like some of that bailout money is being spent already.

s1c

Rays 3-1, Red Sox 3-2, Sox over Rays 4-3 (they always go 7).

Cubs over Dodgers 3-2, Phillies 3-1 over the crew. Cubs 4-3 over Phillies.

Sox 4-2 over cubs!!!

Take it to the bank and bet the house (hey, you can always get a bailout (oops) rescue)

StevefromMKE

Gosh, you make the Yankees sound like a typical liberal Democrat...throw gobs of money at everything and expect for the best.

JM Hanes

"Although I live in the Boston area, I don't hate the Yankees.

Ha! That suddenly takes me all the back to the Columbus Day Tomato Wars, when Boston & New York were still duking it out in Vermont. The last time I made the trek, one of the teams (and I'm not saying which!) had spotters in a helicopter. The general free-for-all it apparently became could be but a pale imitation of those long lost days when partisan troops did battle in the woods and passed out honors in the post war banquet hall. I myself was awarded the coveted bottle of shampoo one year.....

Thomas Collins

I know, Jane, I may get thrown out of Massachusetts before Massachusetts is thrown out of the Union.

But have some mercy on me. When I was growing up, I had an aunt and uncle who owned a deli at 74th and 1st in Manhattan. We'd visit them in the summer. I'd help them in the deli, and we would stay at their place at 54th and 11th (then considered part of Hell's Kitchen, but now a pretty tony area). So, I'd get to go to Coney Island and Yankee Stadium and Central Park. I loved the large buildings and the honking cabs and the subway and the vastness of it all. So I have a fond spot in my heart for NYC. Also, when I was growing up in Little Rhody, there were a lot of Yankees fans.

Besides, I feel bad for TM. It has been a century since the Bronx Bombers have last won a World Series (2000 doesn't count as the 21st Century in my book).

Thomas Collins

I know, Jane, I may get thrown out of Massachusetts before Massachusetts is thrown out of the Union.

But have some mercy on me. When I was growing up, I had an aunt and uncle who owned a deli at 74th and 1st in Manhattan. We'd visit them in the summer. I'd help them in the deli, and we would stay at their place at 54th and 11th (then considered part of Hell's Kitchen, but now a pretty tony area). So, I'd get to go to Coney Island and Yankee Stadium and Central Park. I loved the large buildings and the honking cabs and the subway and the vastness of it all. So I have a fond spot in my heart for NYC. Also, when I was growing up in Little Rhody, there were a lot of Yankees fans.

Besides, I feel bad for TM. It has been a century since the Bronx Bombers have last won a World Series (2000 doesn't count as the 21st Century in my book).

matt

dream on, all a ya's. The Angels will come through....The Rays have never experienced the playoff atmosphere, and that does mean a lot. The Angels own the Sox this year, and we can surely take Chicago....the AAA league team will beoffered up as the sacrificial lamb hey have been for the past few years...

srp

I'm not much of a baseball fan, but I usually root for the team with the least tradition or the least heart-warming story, just to watch the consternation of the commentators. So I loved it when the Marlins won with an owner of doubtful commitment. It's a quandry whether to support the Rays or the Angels as the teams least likely to get the museum curators of "tradition" all worked up, but I know I'd love to see the Sox and Cubs get knocked out right away.

Barbara

"And in the Series - Angels over Cubs."

Oh, I just love your comments and predictions about the Angels! They have been our family's favorite baseball team ever since the "L. A. Angels" were in the old Pacific Coast League, and continued to be our home team (no matter where they played) after they became a major league franchise.

The year that the Angels won the world series was amazing. I cheered so loud that I'm sure they could hear me all the way to Anaheim. I'm so glad that my Dad was still with us to see that day. He was a pretty good pitcher in his day and taught us all about the wonderful game of baseball. I hope the Angels go all the way this year and win the series again - for my Dad!

Rocco

The only question I have is if we beat the Angels and the Dodgers on our way to another World Series Championship, does that mean we get to annex the State of California? I think it's in the constitution?

Pollyusa

Mannie's looking pretty sharp tonight running down the first baseline and everything

Big game coming up

matt

Rocco;

I am going to have some of my friends at Cal Tech try and do plate tectonics magic. Before shifting Massachusetts towards California, I want to move my teams in an ark towards safe harbor and then calve off Liberalistan into its own island off the Arizona Coast.

Rocco

OK...maybe not a sweep. (I really do love you guys)

BobS

Torre manages the Dodgers...there's my vote

Daddy

I'm looking at this whole thing scientifically.

Grandma died a couple months ago and she was a lifelong Cubs fan. I am confident therefore that the Cubs are going to win it because Granny is now in a place where her prayers don't have to go through a lot of middlemen and ought to carry a whole lot more weight. On the other hand, if her Cubbies do wind up tanking once again, I guess we'll know Granny's current job description ain't hanging out on Cloud 9 playing a harp. QED.

Pollyusa

Ellsbury was brilliant

Pagar

Good Morning to All!.
Baseball lost its glow for me when Bob Feller gave it up.

Jerry Peragine

I saw DiMaggio hit a homer; the pitch had been lobbed in during Old-Timers Day, it was 1964 and I was 8 years old. Fourteen years later I was at the same stadium the night Reggie hit three, on three pitches, during a World Series game. I haven't paid much attention over the last 20 years; no American tradition has declined as precipitously as baseball. I scarcely give it a thought during a Presidential election year, that's for sure.

Larry

When I was born('40), Pop asked the delivery room nurse if it was a girl or a Cub fan. They ain't gonna win doodoo giving up 7 walks in the first 5 innings. The good Z better be on tonght, not his evil twin.

Terry Gain

Speaking of baseball, let's hope Sarah hits a few out of the park as she did here in this very nice video of the real Sarah Palin.

Congratulations to the Huffington Post for demonstrating some objectivity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYaJkWUBP3s

it would be nice to have a link icon for 61-year-olds who are too busy to learn how to HTML an URL.

If the link doesn't work, for those who don't want to go to the Huffington Post, the video may be accessed through Power Line as well as YouTube.

Now for the definitive word on tonight's debate.

Palin needs to remind the audience that every Sunday for three years Biden appeared on the morning news talkies and gravely reminded everyone how important it was “to get Iraq right”. He’s now running with a guy who opposed getting Iraq right and who still doesn’t understand the importance of getting Iraq right.

Of course, Palin probably would have been too busy with her many responsibilities to have seen Biden on the Sunday morning talkies and may not be aware of his about-face on Iraq. If McCain’s team has not prepared her to make this point then they have not done their job.

Pagar

Terry,
Highlight the link with your mouse, hit the letter x c in that order. Move your mouse to the box labeled URL and hit the letter v.
That's what I did to put your link into
LUN Link under name

Terry Gain

Thank you Pagar. I knew my admission of incompetence -in this very narrow area- would bring help from one of the many fine people who come here.

Tom Maguire

I figured this bailout bull had you drinking early.

You can't start drinking early if you never stop.

bio mom

Reinforcing my garbage in-garbage out opinion of the polls:

Take a look at this from Newsbusters. This phony poll id# sample may just blow up into a real news story. In the whole article he reveals how the AP poll changed:

“Somehow,” the sample make-up changed from 33-31 Democrat to 40-29 Democrat from the earlier to the latter poll — a shift of nine points.

“Somehow,” the Strong-Dem vs. Strong-GOP difference went from nothing to eight points.

“Somehow,” the Strong-GOP vs. Moderate-GOP mix went from +3 to -3, a swing of six points”

How much proof do folks have to have that these pollsters, most likely because of money and the ability to get contracts are in the tank for Barak Obama? Or are just doing whatever, blowing in the wind?


Joe

Hi,
I am trying to raise funds so that my baseball team can stay together and play next spring..our old coach took money from all of us this fall to play and then ended the season early without returning any money..I created a website and we are hoping to find donations...most of my team is very young and come from tough areas in Brooklyn and it would be a shame if they can't play ball next year. I am trying to get some publicity for the site with the hope that people will donate for our team. You can read about our team at pleasehelpusplayball.com
Thank you very much.

Jane

Grandma died a couple months ago and she was a lifelong Cubs fan. I am confident therefore that the Cubs are going to win it because Granny is now in a place where her prayers don't have to go through a lot of middlemen and ought to carry a whole lot more weight.

Daddy,

When my B-I-L's father died, the year before the first Red Sox World series win, the first thing my nephew said was: I'm so sad Grampy didn't get to see the Red Sox win the World Series".

Barney Frank

I haven't paid much attention over the last 20 years; no American tradition has declined as precipitously as baseball. I scarcely give it a thought during a Presidential election year, that's for sure.

Jerry P,

Since the time frame you're talking about takes us from the heights of Ronald Reagan to either Barry or Johnny Mac I'm not sure the latter hasn't declined more than the former.

Sue

We are commandeering this thread! Baseball sucks anyway. Especially if you live in the Texas Rangers market.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

PALIN DEBATE THREAD?

Jane

Okay, I'm here and I'm taking a front row seat!

Dave
the Yankees will ride CC Sabathia and Chien Ming Wang all the way to rings.

Heh, heh.

Go Sox!

centralcal

Ifill just hobbled out on her crutches. I saw people clapping, so I booed! No sound yet on FNC, just an inset live picture.

Dave
Since the time frame you're talking about takes us from the heights of Ronald Reagan to either Barry or Johnny Mac I'm not sure the latter hasn't declined more than the former.
As a Bosox fan, could I ask you not to use the term "Johnny Mac" in a baseball thread?
Sara (Pal2Pal)

ATTENTION - ATTENTION - ATTENTION

Popcorn in the Rear

Welcome to

THE PALIN DEBATE THREAD

Sue

Good grief. This thread has been idle all day and suddenly someone shows up talking baseball. Sorry. We will abide baseball talk since it was your thread to begin with.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

BYOB

Dave

People mentioning baseball in a baseball thread. Imagine that.

Elliott

Obama earrings. They exist.

Porchlight

Debate thread!

The wine is ready to pour and C-SPAN is on mute in the next room.. The next kid who asks me for something is getting an earful.

Sue

Dave,

::grin:: I checked before I herded them all over here and the thread had been idle since noon. Sorry.

hit and run

TM closed baseball for the season since the Yankees are out.

Baseball now only serves as a metaphor for the campaign.

Dave

You're going to pour wine into a kid's ear?

hit and run

Use a straw to get it back out.

Porchlight

Oh, no! Sorry, it did read like that.
Not that kind of earful. :)

Porchlight

Can you tell I'm a little jittery?

centralcal

Oh, gawd, Elliott! Obama earrings only? I bet there are piercings and tatoos you have yet to be exposed to!

Dave

T minus 3

centralcal

Porch - we will lift her (Sarah) up on angel wings!

Dave

A new open thread is up.

Jane

Why is Ifill on crutches?

RichatUF

Sara-

Thanks for the invite.

What the GOP needs-

MORE MOOSE BELLE

Porchlight

Jane, she broke her ankle this week.

TM has a new debate thread...see you there

Jane

You guys - come over to the new thread.

Porchlight

Debate Night! TM's new thread

JM Hanes

I just hope Ifill has worse butterflies than Palin. Neither of them can be as nervous as I am.

Ifill is wearing Michelle's signature color. Coincidence?

May I call you Joe? I like it.

JM Hanes

Shoot, abandoned again.

Jack Klompus

GO PHILLIES!!!! SHANE VICTORINO IS GOD!!! SIT DOWN SABATHIA!!! Bring on the New York teams...ooooh wait I'm sorry that's right they cleaned out their lockers last week! Bee-yatches!! And what will become of Josh "Dork-ass soul patch" Beckett and that idiot irish dancing goon Papel-whatever? Beat it Red Sux and all your lame-ass bandwagon jumping idiot pseudo-fans in your lame ass high fivin' frat boy 2nd rate pseudo-city Beantown!!! GO PHILS GO PHILS GO PHILS GO PHILS GO PHILS!!!! Mwuhahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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