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November 14, 2008

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ljmwilliamson@yahoo.com

George,

I am just cynical enough to believe that.

Ayers takes the public stage to downplay his terrorism and trumpet his book that attempted to make amends for his past. It doesn't. What it does do is attempt to draw moral equivalence.

Ayers doesn't think the American public has a right to question Barrack Obama's associations. He can set bombs and reserve the right to do so in the future but we can't ask questions because that is the politics of fear.

Would Mr. Ayers permit me to draw a moral equivalence between asking questions of political candidates and setting bombs?

Unbelievable.

clarice

PUK, why wait? Put on your Dmitri Blabbinski outfit and call the Daily Mail.

narciso

Don't forget Auchi, the Baathist bagman nee benefactor and Al Samarrai, the indicted electricity minister turned Resistance benefactor. Ayers found out the Gramscian way was better than the Che Guevara/Carlos Marighela way, he was able to harness the forces to get to his objective;his preferred
candidate and presumedly the retreat of US forces from the Middle East. This was the road followed by Chavez, and Morales, & that fellow in Ecuador; and now regretably
this country.

So in the category of how Sarah twists otherwise sensible minds;( there's a full archive to consider) Robert Kerrey, you know the reformed 'war criminal' at the New School; pops up in David Grann's inquest into the McCain campaign; and says how he is dissapointed in the Senator's last tactics in the previous campaign. What doe he use as an example; that rally in Florida
where Sarah brought out 17,000. His turn of
phrase, Sarah is "devouring him"; ala
"Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors" not carrying him past the 40 yard line,although
more elaborate metaphors come to mind.Hope Mrs. Kerrey doesn't read this particular insight. Also in the publication where Henry Luce is "spinning in his grave at 100 RPM"; another inquest into the campaign, says mind you:"the Troopergate inquest, proves the chronyism in the Palin
organization;" this is in a state where both the party treasurer, Ruedrich, and the Atty Gen, Ferkes were forced out on
corruption charges. These people have gone stark freaking mad. Yet they don't recognize
it; one of the cornerstones of insanity.

Extraneus

The sin would be the lie, not the sex.

Of course, but doesn't the public have a right to know? After all, the man could be blackmailed.

MikeH

Who cares about Bill Ayers? I bet Diana Oughton's family cares about him. Let's just search around "the net" and see what we can find. Here we go...St. Petersburg Times, Mar. 22, 1970: "Her body was identified Tuesday by the fragment of a little finger found in the debris. Two other bodies, 60 sticks of dynamite, 30 blasting caps and four dynamite packs wrapped with heavy nails were also found." ..."Police say the dynamite packs wrapped with heavy nails could be antipersonnel bombs, designed to kill people, rather than just blow up buildings."..."It was in Ann Arbor that she met William Ayers one of the founders of the Weathermen. Diana fell in love with Bill Ayers and they went together until the time of her death. Some friends feel that Ayers was a bad influence upon Diana" (you think?) ..." 'I can't believe Diana would ever make bombs' said (sister) Carol. 'She hated violence so much she even left the Chicago convention when she thought it was getting out of hand. And I never knew her to strike a person.' "
(I'm not going to imbed the link in typepad but you can post this into your browser for the source of this: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=wQAOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_HsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7291,764130&dq=william-ayers).

OK, so Billy "didn't do enough." Sure nothing to see here.

And more Weather Underground stuff from the
Time archives:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,904830,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,950580,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922638,00.html

sbw

Extraneous, there are many verbal clubs I, as a newspaper publisher, choose never to swing. "The public has a right to know" is one of them.

The public was foolish not to insist on knowing before casting votes, and foolish not to withhold its vote when it was unsure.

But a right to know? Sorry. I can't support you on that one.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Pofarmer: The irony is that they mailed you a letter to the address they claim is invalid and you got it.

You may not be in the mood for a good laugh, but if you are, watch this video PSA.

centralcal

Too funny, Clarice. My coworkers don't understand what I am laughing about!

Dmitri Blabbinski, indeed!!!

Pagar

"As someone new to this space, please tell me your fascination over this Ayers guy?""

America's president-elect has family friends that apparently are very familiar with how to construct nail bombs intended for use in US military NCO clubs to destroy US personnel, and leftists don't find that fascinating.

Family friends with an unrepentent bomb builder who:
"A substantial portion of Ayers' book Fugitive Days discusses the author's penchant for building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972." Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers says, "Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them."
LUN

Not only is this man calling himself an family friend of Obama, he also says:

"In his 2001 screed, Fugitive Days, Ayers recounts his life as a Sixties radical, his tenure as a Weatherman lieutenant, his terrorist campaign across America, and his enduring hatred for for the United States. "What a country," Ayers said in 2001. "It makes me want to puke."

American leftists apparently are OK with people who think that way.

Pofarmer

So, what all has Obama been associated with that would have torpedoed any other reasonable candidate?

a)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was indicted for fraud.

b)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenburg Challenge without one thing to show for it.

c)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.

d)Won't realease his birth certificates or medical records.

e)Campaign seal is probably illegal.

f)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.

g)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.

i)Runs one of the most quiestionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.

Please folks, let's keep adding them up. copy and tag on the end.

DrJ

j) No release of college transcripts.

PeterUK

Clarice,
I was thinking of something more lurid,like The Sun.It pictures with a dead girl and a live boy were to turn up....!

RichatUF

Peter Jones-

its those kind of relationships that are more damaging and destructive then sitting around with a bunch of guys getting high and talking about overthrowing the world

Oh really, that's all that the Weather Underground did?

PeterUK

"ts those kind of relationships that are more damaging and destructive then sitting around with a bunch of guys getting high"

Like Ayers former lovers,Diana Oughton and Terry Robbins ?

bgates

Po -

j) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer
k) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career

Extraneus

I can understand your ethical point, sbw, but I'm not a newspaper publisher. Just a fellow citizen on the losing side of a revolution, and I'm not ready to lay down arms. If there's anything I can do to hamper Obama's and the left's ability to damage me, my family and my country, I'm more than willing to consider it.

Pofarmer

a)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was indicted for fraud.

b)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenburg Challenge without one thing to show for it.

c)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.

d)Won't realease his birth certificates or medical records.

e)Campaign seal is probably illegal.

f)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.

g)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.

i)Runs one of the most quiestionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.


j) No release of college transcripts.

k) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer

l) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career

Pofarmer

the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer

That one is particularly aggregious.

PeterUK

Spending over $600,000,000 getting elected on a manifesto of "Spreading the wealth".

Pagar

"Anyone think that Ayers would go to the Inauguration? Why shouldn't he, he's a a distinguished professor of education."

Anyone think that they would ever see the day when American presidential family friends/Terrorist bomb builders would be allowed to openly attend a US presidential inauguration and no MSM even questions it?

Wonder what would happen if Joe the Plumber tried to attend it?

Elliott

m) falsely accused the NRLC of lying after the organization exposed the fact that his record did not match his rhetoric on born alive infant protection legislation.

pleiku69

it's clear there isn't a single vietnam vet on this page. you're all a bunch of sissy la las, we'd still be under british rule if left to wankers like you all. i, for one, am grateful for any influence the weathermen had to end that purposeless (except for arms makers), honor-less (except for some of the warriors), slaughter of human beings. score: 3mill to 65thou ... went back last year ... the smells of fear, of expended ordinance, and of rotting flesh and death have been replaced by flowers, fruits and vegetables in the marketplace and american jobs in state of the art factories ... what chumps you are ...

Pofarmer

a)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was indicted for fraud.

b)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenburg Challenge without one thing to show for it.

c)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.

d)Won't realease his birth certificates or medical records.

e)Campaign seal is probably illegal.

f)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.

g)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.

i)Runs one of the most quiestionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.


j) No release of college transcripts.

k) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer

l) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career

m) falsely accused the NRLC of lying after the organization exposed the fact that his record did not match his rhetoric on born alive infant protection legislation.

n)Spending over $600,000,000 getting elected on a manifesto of "Spreading the wealth".

Pofarmer

what chumps you are ...

Tell it to the millions who died under Pol Pot.

hit and run

Pagar:
Wonder what would happen if Joe the Plumber tried to attend it?

He would no doubt stay at the Watergate.

PeterUK

plonker69,

Don't forget the re-education camps,the executions,the drowning "Boat People",the "Killing Fields" of Camdodia.

"the smells of fear, of expended ordinance, and of rotting flesh and death"

Exactly what Bill Ayers tried to bring to America.

Extraneus

There must be a good reason why the left feels it necessary to defend Ayers. What could it be?

PeterUK

This really seems to have hit a nerve.

bgates

I wonder how much traffic TM's getting from Ayers' students today.

They sure don't seem to take winning well. A majority of the public appears to approve of plotting the murder of police officers so long as it is done to advance totalitarian political goals. Obama won. What are they worried about?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

There must be a good reason why the left feels it necessary to defend Ayers.

Because they are all cowards and Ayers is the poster boy of cowards.

Just read what pleiku69 just wrote for the perfect example. These morons think they did something good. Ask a real vet if they agree. Ask the POWs if they agree. Ask South Viets left behind if they agree (oops can't, they are all dead.) Ask the Cambodians if they agree.

Extraneus

Is this even believable?

Obama has more threats than other presidents-elect

Guess it depends on what the meanings of "threats" and "president-elect" are.

bgates

-I mean, I know what I'm worried about. But what's their problem?

Elliott

O!:

After an unsuccessful campaign for Congress in 2000, Illinois state Sen. Barack Obama faced serious financial pressure: numerous debts, limited cash and a law practice he had neglected for a year. Help arrived in early 2001 from a significant new legal client -- a longtime political supporter.

Chicago entrepreneur Robert Blackwell Jr. paid Obama an $8,000-a-month retainer to give legal advice to his growing technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange. It allowed Obama to supplement his $58,000 part-time state Senate salary for over a year with regular payments from Blackwell's firm that eventually totaled $112,000.

A few months after receiving his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin.

Pagar

PeterUK,
Somewhere on of these Obama/Ayers threads today, you said something about reading FSB or some such initials to learn more about Obama/Ayers. I can't find anything like that? Do you recall it? Thanks

bgates

Is this even believable?
The first two letters of your link are "AP" - so, no.

It's not even from the Rome, NY feed. Shame.

confused

I realize the media wanted to make sure Obama won because they think having "camelot" again will sell more magazines and they need the profits and even retailers wanted them to win because they think Michelle will inspire women to buy clothes like hers so that isn't surprising. I understand all that.

But I can't understand how the media could let them get away with such outrageous lies when it's so easy to prove they're not being honest. We know Michelle worked at the same law firm as Bernardine Dohrn, who jor the job because of the recommendation of Ayer's family years before they "officially" introduced Obama to everyone as a candidate. Although I'm not sure why a person who was put in jail for refusing to give information she knew about a crime that killed police officers is allowed to work at a law firm, the important thing is that it proves they knew both Ayers and Dohrn before they claim they did. How could the media let them lie this way?

Also now members of the board are accusing Acorn of embezzlement but the board members who are trying to find out who stole the money have all been fired and guess which law firm is representing Acorn and not the members of the board? The SAME law firm that Bernardine Dohrn and the Obamas worked at.

I can't believe we elected this person. Now it will be impossible to do anything about it. He is the first black President and this is a "historic" election - if anyone tries to change that, it will make black people angry, there will probably be riots, he will become a martyr to everyone.

bgates

Elliott scores the O. BTW nice job by Pofarmer skipping the forbidden letter.

P) Civilian National Defense Force.

Frau Jedöns

It's the *number* of half-truths, lies and omissions, one after the other, about friends, associations and activities. Obama has been very selective about what personal information he wanted to divulge. Why? The lack of information about him is unlike any other candidate that I know in my almost fifty years of voting. If you are not bothered by it, I find that disturbing.

PeterUK

Pagar,
FSB - KGB.Nothing went on in the "protest groups" without their say so.There will have been an agent in the Weathermen.There will be a dossier.

MikeH

Pleiku69 - Sheesh, William Faulkner, you ain't. Man, put down the doobie.

RichatUF

Going OT for a minute: Year Zero in the Obamination. Ask the One an unfriendly question, have the state roto-rooter everything in your jacket. Its even more state agencies which dug up dirt on Joe the Plumber.

I suppose it is black helicopter to think this, but I'd like to get a list of all the Ohio state employees who ran checks and see how much each one contributed to Obama's campaign and who may have been in contact with the Obama campaign. Sure it could have been 6 independent entities each acting alone when Joe's name came up, but the velocity in which the searchs were done and the media feeding frenzy which followed had that Axelturfer Special™ feel.

And for Ohio JOMers, what the hell is wrong with your state?

PeterUK

Well would you look at that! The guy is on eBay and he's a lighter.

Ann

OT,

Does anyone know anything about the company Lifelock. It is an identity theft protection service. I was thinking of joining. It looks like it is $110.00/year per adult and $25.00/year per child. RUSH advertises it on his program.

Maybe, I just have early signs of ODS but I am seriously thinking about it. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Pagar

"honor-less"
That would be John Kerry-leading pro North Vietnam marches in the states: Meeting with the North Vietnamese enemy in Paris while thousands of us in the military were on second, third or more tours in Vietnam. Tours which for many ended in death by an enemy encouraged (to fight on)by the Anti America American protesters back in the USA.


Never thought the Democrats could name a less honorable human being to be President of the US, but I believe they have. At least Kerry had a US birth certificate.

Frau Jedöns

Wrong. The WUO did not help end the Vietnam War. They terrorized ordinary Americans who were going about their lives. In my town, a young woman working in a college office was blinded and maimed for life by a mail bomb. She was not part of any "evil war machine." Regardless of Ayer's twisted logic, terror does not need deaths to be terror. Some of the WUO went illegally to Cuba and trained with the North Vietnamese, traveled to and trained in North Vietnam, conferred secretly and illegally in Paris with North Vietnamese. They helped prolong the war if anything.

hit and run

Rich:
And for Ohio JOMers, what the hell is wrong with your state?

It's the buckeyes.

Frau Jedöns

Buckeyes? Not those peanut butter, chocolate with paraffin spheres?

RichatUF

Pager-

The link is this comment is the FBI's FOIA file on the Weather Underground. We've come a long way in 7 years: from going after the nation states which support terror groups and killing state sponsored terrorists to electing for president someone who is so unbothered by state sponsored terrorists he'd have a koffee klatch with one.

Also noticed that France isn't even waiting for the election they are coming out against US missile defense and strongly appeasing the Russians. How again was Obama supposed to "restore our standing in the world"?

PeterUK

Pagar,
A question which has never been answered,perhaps not even asked,under whose auspices did the lowly Lieutenant Kerry get to meet Viet Cong leaders in Paris.Things like that don't happen,Kerry had a powerful sponsor ,who?
There are similarities between Kerry and Obama,nobodies who came out of the woodwork and into prominence.Looks to me,somebody pulled the same three card trick.

RichatUF

damn it:

even waiting for the election...waiting for the *inauguration*

PD

Has anybody noticed that the trolls have been upgraded?

In quantity, yes. In quality, not so much.

Barney Frank

There must be a good reason why the left feels it necessary to defend Ayers. What could it be?

Yeah. I've been noticing the almost complete lack of gloating troll posts about Barry's big win, but let someone mention comrade Bill and the roaches are out of their motel in a heartbeat.

PeterUK

"Also noticed that France isn't even waiting for the election they are coming out against US missile defense and strongly appeasing the Russians."

Looks as if the French know which way the Weatherman is blowing.

confused

also Obama has a job application for people who want government jobs that asks for more information than any administration has asked for before but apparently he doesn't realize that he wouldn't be able to get a job working for his own administration if he had to complete that application.

Nobody is going to critiize this administration after what happened to the plumber should have known nobody is allowed to ask Obama a question about his tax policies. Although it's illegal to go through tax records of citizens the media doesn't care although maybe it was the media who requested that information.

clarice

The Sun it is then ,gospodine Blabbinski.
Pics will be delivered tonight by courier dressed as a pizza delivery guy.

PD

re: "camelot"

I really do not get this fascination for the comparison with JFK. They're hoping for ... what? A missle crisis? A Bay of Pigs? A Vietnam war? An assassination?

Sheesh.

Anna

bgates:
"what are they worried about?"
I think it is not a worry, it is a burning hate. Like "Palestinians" they run on hate.
Hate against "rich", zionism. GWB, you and me. No wonder it feels like Germany in 30s.
So much hate, so little consideration for decency and character.
"Palestinians" ended up a broken society.
I wonder if "they" with all their hate will succeed in breaking ours.

PeterUK

Clarice,
вы радушны

PeterUK

Has anyone seen the research on criminal gangs? Very interesting.All gangs have at the centre a genuinely psychopathic individual,the Manson family are a good example.Perhaps the Weathermen were the same?

centralcal

Ah yes, PD. Marilyn Monroe? Hidden illness?

Pagar

" You should be more concerned if he had a relationship with Halliburton, Citibank, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, et al."

"Barack Obama (D)
Top Contributors"

University of California $909,283
Goldman Sachs $874,207
Harvard University $717,230
Microsoft Corp $714,108
Google Inc $701,099
JPMorgan Chase & Co $581,460
Citigroup Inc $581,216
National Amusements Inc $543,859
Time Warner $508,148
Sidley Austin LLP $492,445
Stanford University $481,199
Skadden, Arps et al $473,424
Wilmerhale Llp $466,679
UBS AG $454,795
Latham & Watkins $426,924
Columbia University $426,516
Morgan Stanley $425,102
IBM Corp $415,196
University of Chicago $414,555
US Government $400,819
LUN

Anyone got a clue how the US government got on that list?

PeterUK

"They're hoping for ... what? A missile crisis?"

My money is on a missile crisis round a b o u t...NOW!

Ann

Rich:
And for Ohio JOMers, what the hell is wrong with your state?

Partisan Democrat Ohio Bureaucrats

RichatUF

Barney-

...but let someone mention comrade Bill and the roaches are out of their motel in a heartbeat...

Law 5: So Much Depends on Reputation – Guard it with your Life.

Obama has a thumbscrew too, and it's probably his "biography". I remember reading an article during the campaign that the one thing that was more important than anything else for Obama's campaign staff was Obama's "biography".

RichatUF

Pager-

Anyone got a clue how the US government got on that list?

That would be US Gov't employees. I think someone had flagged up an article at NRO which showed the number of DOJ employees who had contributed to his campaign (a real rats nest in the Civil Rights Division iirc)

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Obama employment questionnaire:

Found in the questionnaire’s “Miscellaneous” section, question 59 reads, “Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”
PeterUK

Pagar,
As somebody said elsewhere those are very odd amounts,almost as if the were currency exchanges.

clarice

Pagar, that list indicat3es the employer of the contributors. Open secrets noted how much DoJ emplyees contributed to Obama, for example. Just in case you had a doubt.

clarice

PUK, they are odd amounts because they are aggregate contributions. Harvard Univ for example did not contribute, numerous staff and professors did.

microsyops

Pagar-I don't think those institutions as institutions gave to Obama, perhaps individuals that were employed by them did. But knowing you guys you probably think the individuals were ordered to contribute to Obama.

You guys are a real charge, I just love the conspiracy theories you weave so well. You know, like the Clinton's killing people etc. etc. etc.

clarice

What, I'm a potted plant, micro? AND---
"The Clinton's killing people"..where did I miss that?

Porchlight

microsyops

LOL. Spelling not in high regard at Axelwad HQ, evidently.

Pagar

"What this series does argue for is a consistent pattern of the Kerry family working with Communists and Communist fellow travellers in a way that advances the Communist program."

PeterUK; back in the 04 campaign: I had thousands of Kerry background posts bookmarked. But 2 computer replacements, other shady characters to be railed against, etc, I only have a few now.

Here is a good place to look and see if you may have missed something about John Kerry and his Communists ties:

LUN

The quote I put at the top of this, comes from the 5 part series Fedora did on Kerry and his Communist roots. He/She has put a lot of real good solid work in these articles, with great footnotes and references.

IMO, you're right that Kerry and Obama have a lot of the same type of background. What I think happened is that George Soros got burnt on John Kerry because he had too much baggage from the Vietnam War. However Soros still had a goal of taking control of the US, so he probably had a search conducted, and Obama's name came up. All the right communist upbringing, almost all his records hidden from the public, etc, etc. No paper trail on anything. The problem came from Obama's radical friends. However that was over come by having the MSM completely under Soros control. and making sure that no harmful questions were asked of Obama or his friends. So now America has a president-elect about whom they know very little, except that he spent a lot of someone's money to buy the American presidency.

Pofarmer

a)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was indicted for fraud.
b)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenburg Challenge without one thing to show for it.
c)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.
d)Won't realease his birth certificates or medical records.
e)Campaign seal is probably illegal.
f)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.
g)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.
i)Runs one of the most quiestionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.

j) No release of college transcripts.
k) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer
l) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career
m) falsely accused the NRLC of lying after the organization exposed the fact that his record did not match his rhetoric on born alive infant protection legislation.
n)Spending over $600,000,000 getting elected on a manifesto of "Spreading the wealth".
P) Civilian National Defense Force.
Q) Runs openly on platform of wealth redistribution.


Surely there's more.

Sue

LOL. Suddenly, the left is not fond of conspiracy theories.

PeterUK

microsyops,
There are plenty of institutions on that list where being a Republican would be occupational suicide,certainly being a Democrat would enhance job prospects.
How many Republicans are in Bill Ayers department?

Barney Frank

microsyops

Not sure if that means you have a tiny brain or you just post bullpuckey to aggravate your betters. Both maybe?

PeterUK

Pagar,
I would agree,except Soros is small potatoes.There are those who can buy and sell him.The Comintern,for example,spent billions suborning the west.

PeterUK

Barney,
Nah,it's a misspelling microsyops should be microslops.

Enlightened

PO - The ever-so-secret LAT tape may reveal more about Lightbringer Alpha (got that from AoSHQ)

RichatUF

Pofarmer-

Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was indicted convicted for fraud

R. Has for an economics advisor someone who presided over the largest bank failure of the 1990's which pioneered subprime mortgage lending (Superior Bank).

S. Someone who sued Citibank, under the CRA, to force banks make subprime loans or face civil actions.


narciso

They didn't have to be forced; they did it of the own will. Institutional players like Goldman, JP Morgan, Countrywide, Lehman, UBS
Wachovia, are the key; because of the One's hands off view to those parties. Microsoft in concert will Buffett's foundations, have a strong population growth, environmental, probably anti-gun bias. We know that McCain had probably burned bridges to Wall Street,
pharmaceuticals, most defense contractors.
(with the exception of EAS/Airbus) probably sports franchises; because of the whole steroids issue. Oil probably came on line after Palin, but they probably hedged their bets; her husband was a shift supervisor with BP/AMOCO however, she gave the Seven Sisters their marching orders, themselves.
Wasn't Sidley & Austin, Michelle's firm, Wilmer Cutler, Gorelick's firm deeply involved in the Gitmo detainee bar. Skadden Arps, provided the campaign finance expert that tut tutted the idea of wardrobe as campaign expenditure. As for collective media actual and in kind contribution; as the commercial goes, priceless. If there was a balanced film of this election; there
would be a lot of Kenneth H. Dalbergs, I'm just saying.(whose checks ended up in the
hands of the Watergate burglars)

Pagar

"I don't think those institutions as institutions gave to Obama, perhaps individuals that were employed by them did."

So, a bunch of individuals over at Goldman Sachs gets together and says: We'd be able to make a lot more money if Obama were in charge, lets all chip in a few dollars extra and help him win. Those little $2300 individual limits on contribution are too low.

GOLDMAN SACHS GRP(NYSE: GS)
52wk Range: 61.02 - 234.22

Today's close-$66.73

And besides contributing to presidential campaigns, these people give investment advice.

PeterUK

Not forgetting Obama made a career out of voting "present".

clarice

Pagar, a partner at the firm becomes a bundler and seeks contributions from his fellows who are happy to oblige because if the bundler does well, he's on the transition team which sets the agendas and personnel for agencies the firm has the strongest interest in.
Get it now?

Pofarmer

a)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was convicted of fraud.
b)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenburg Challenge without one thing to show for it.
c)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.
d)Won't realease his birth certificates or medical records.
e)Campaign seal is probably illegal.
f)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.
g)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.
i)Runs one of the most quiestionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.

j) No release of college transcripts.
k) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer
l) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career
m) falsely accused the NRLC of lying after the organization exposed the fact that his record did not match his rhetoric on born alive infant protection legislation.
n)Spending over $600,000,000 getting elected on a manifesto of "Spreading the wealth".
P) Civilian National Defense Force.
Q) Runs openly on platform of wealth redistribution..
R) Incriminating tape toasting a former PLO spokesman the LA times won't release.
S) Has for an economics advisor someone who presided over the largest bank failure of the 1990's which pioneered subprime mortgage lending (Superior Bank).
T). Someone who sued Citibank, under the CRA, to force banks make subprime loans or face civil actions.
U) Includes among his top advisors Franklin Raines, former CEO of Fannie Mae
V) Uses for his Vice Presidential search, another former CEO of Freddie Mac Jim Johnson.

Getting there, please bring up any corrections.

Getting there

PeterUK

Pofarmer,
Making a career out of voting "present"

Pofarmer

Got it, thanks.

sbw

Po, Annenburg s/b Annenberg

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Hilly and New Mexico? she has allot of transactions...............

DrJ

Po,

Did not honor his promise to use public campaign financing.

Rated the most (or second? or third?) most liberal senator in 200?. (Sorry, I don't remember the source or the details.)

Voted with the Democrats 98% of the time, and with Bush 50% of the time. (This too is from memory, so please correct it.)

PD

I think it's Rahm that voted with the Dems 98% of the time, and Obama's figure is "only" 94%.

The figures for both of them seem to belie the idea that this administration will govern from the center or that it will show any bipartisanship. Obama and Rahm are clearly hyper-partisan.

DrJ

Agreed, PD -- that's the point. Their claim to bipartisanship is nonsense. Not that I believe in bipartisanship anyway.

Pofarmer

Well, I started out thinking only things that could cause legal problems, but, It's obviously been expanded.

a)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was convicted of fraud.
b)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge without one thing to show for it.
c)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.
d)Won't release his birth certificates or medical records.
e)Campaign seal is probably illegal.
f)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.
g)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.
i)Runs one of the most questionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.

j) No release of college transcripts.
k) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer
l) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career
m) falsely accused the NRLC of lying after the organization exposed the fact that his record did not match his rhetoric on born alive infant protection legislation.
n)Spending over $600,000,000 getting elected on a manifesto of "Spreading the wealth".
P) Civilian National Defense Force.
Q) Runs openly on platform of wealth redistribution..
R) Incriminating tape toasting a former PLO spokesman the LA times won't release.
S) Has for an economics advisor someone who presided over the largest bank failure of the 1990's which pioneered subprime mortgage lending (Superior Bank).
T). Someone who sued Citibank, under the CRA, to force banks make subprime loans or face civil actions.
U) Includes among his top advisors Franklin Raines, former CEO of Fannie Mae
V) Uses for his Vice Presidential search, another former CEO of Freddie Mac.

W)_Making a career out of voting "present"
X) Did not honor his promise to use public campaign financing.
Y) Clearly partisan, voting with Democrats 94% of the time.
Z) Chooses for his running mate, a 35 year member of the Senate, clearly undercutting his message of "Hope and Change."

Pofarmer

The media really has been incurious, haven't they?

Let's start with the double letters.

DrJ

Well, Po, the $160 million spent by the CAC was in no way illegal, as far as anyone has found. It is just misguided (to be nice).

Pofarmer

Well, Po, the $160 million spent by the CAC was in no way illegal, as far as anyone has found. It is just misguided (to be nice).

Yeah, I know. But, isn't it curious that most of the money was for supporting like minds in school board elections, and not on, like, ya know, education?

Pofarmer

Ya know, if Chicago and Detroit are the BEST examples of Liberal governance, we're really in for a shit storm, aren't we?

Pofarmer

A)Caught in a scheme buying a house with assistance from his number one fundraiser who was convicted of fraud.
B)Distributed 160 million dollars in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge without one thing to show for it.
C)Sits in a church for 20 years with a raving lunatic of a racist preacher.
D)Won't release his birth certificates or medical records.
E)Campaign seal is probably illegal.
F)Funds a group actively involved in vote fraud.
G)Works for and with a group actively involved in vote fraud.
I)Runs one of the most questionable finance campaign schemes ever, where foreign nationals and anyone else can easily donate without verification.

J) No release of college transcripts.
K) the transparent quid pro quo of his wife getting a raise tripling her salary to $300k just before Obama directed a $1M earmark to her employer
L) repeatedly lied about the extent of his relationship with the communist who started his political career
M) falsely accused the NRLC of lying after the organization exposed the fact that his record did not match his rhetoric on born alive infant protection legislation.
N)Spending over $600,000,000 getting elected on a manifesto of "Spreading the wealth".
P) Civilian National Defense Force.
Q) Runs openly on platform of wealth redistribution..
R) Incriminating tape toasting a former PLO spokesman the LA times won't release.
S) Has for an economics advisor someone who presided over the largest bank failure of the 1990's which pioneered subprime mortgage lending (Superior Bank).
T). Someone who sued Citibank, under the CRA, to force banks make subprime loans or face civil actions.
U) Includes among his top advisors Franklin Raines, former CEO of Fannie Mae
V) Uses for his Vice Presidential search, another former CEO of Freddie Mac.

W)_Making a career out of voting "present"
X) Did not honor his promise to use public campaign financing.
Y) Clearly partisan, voting with Democrats 94% of the time
Z) Chooses for a running mate a 35 year member of the Senate, clearly undercutting his message of "Hope and Change."

DrJ

[quote][I]sn't it curious that most of the money was for supporting like minds in school board elections, and not on, like, ya know, education?[/quote]

Not at all. For me that's the real point of your list -- to show that all this hopey-changey stuff is nonsense. There in an underlying political agenda.

Now liet's move to foreign policy, with his opposition to the Iraq ar, his opposition to the surge, and his desire to pull out troops so quickly that the US and the Iraqis would lose. His comment on Jerusalem. His advisor's (Galoolie?) comment on NAFTA to the Canadians. Samantha Power.

He makes McGovern look like Goldwater. That's the issue. Well, among others.

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