Bracing For Tuesday Night

Here is a helpful election guide to poll closings and key states.

My advice to some Obama supporters last night was that if their champagne is not chilled by 8 PM they will probably be OK but it had better be ready to be served by 10:00.

So, a new pool: which will be the first network to call it for Obama (after OLBY-MSNBC), and at what time?

Bonus question - who will actually win the darn election?

I'll go contrarian and suggest that Fox might benefit from a quick call for Obama as they repostion themselves and do a bit of source-greasing for what looks like some long, lonelyyears ahead.  (Fox Sidebar: Would they be the biggest winners from a revived Fairness Doctrine shutting down hate talk radio?  To whom will we righties turn...).

As to timing, I am hoping McCain can Keep Suspense Alive in Florida, Virginia, Pennsylvania, et al, and carry us to 10 PM.  But there is no way this election night decision runs longer than a World Series game or Monday Night Football.

Comments

[Doodad Pro]

Who knew that TM would turn out to be so defeatist?

[Uncle BigBad]

Doodad

One could hope he's just being sarcastic.

[Clarice]

Mr. 70%? Who knew , indeed?

TM, Did you get my message? Pls check your emails.

[DGS]

Every network but Fox calls it for O at 8:00 PM on Monday.

McCain wins, hopefully. Otherwise it is a long four years.

[Jim Ryan]

[being hauled away by Axy's MIB] When did they get to you, Tom. WHEN DID THEY GET TO YOU!!!

[Lori]

TM's "Obama supporter" friends will be secretly voting for McCain. All Tom had to do was tell them that he thinks Obama is going to win. Trust me, they are having second thoughts. I will bet that when Tom told them to have the champagne ready, they all had that deer in the headlights look. The reality of an Obama presidency is starting to sink in...

[kim]

Clarice has shown us the October Surprise, his bankrupt coal speech. That will impact Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado. And it will not just cement Republicans and convince independents, but it will dislodge some hardcore Democrat union members. Dislodge, heh, I like that one.
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[kim]

hmmm, 'stack up independents' would be better.
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[Porchlight]

Posted this on the other thread but it fits better here:

Two questions:

1. Does anyone recall the party ID split of the early vote in 2004? I seem to remember reports of Kerry being ahead.

2. If after the polls close, IN, VA, NC, GA, NH and/or ME-2 appear to be going for McCain, how long will the networks delay before calling them?

[Porchlight]

That will impact Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado.

Only if they hear about it, kim. Unless it hits Drudge or the MSM I don't know if that will happen.

[kim]

Wizbang has it. I put it at Climate Audit and Watts Up. It's big news. The velvet glove tore and the iron fist of authoritarianism is bared.
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[Lori]

Its on lucianne!

[Porchlight]

I hope so, kim.

I also notice Drudge and others have the Obama "civilian national security force" story. Where the hell were these people back in July when he actually said this? JOM was of course all over it.

[Pofarmer]

I'll make a prediction.

If Obama wins it will be a squeaker. If McCain wins, I think he'll win big.

[PeterUK]

"Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news?

Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview".

[E. Nigma]

Clues:

If Obama carries Pennsylvania, Virginia and either Florida or Ohio, it's over.

If McCain holds Virginia, Florida and carries either Ohio or Pennsylvania, then nobobdy calls it until very late Tuesday or Wednesday morning.

[PeterUK]

Obama,
"Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
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That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It's just that it will bankrupt them."

[Rick Ballard]

Porchlight,

The 'fun' is going to be watching stories about "unprecedented waits" in Philly. If Nutter is going to emasculate Obama (and I believe he is), then he'll slow down the voting process in order to give the appearance that turnout is high. It really can't get much higher than the 102% achieved in '04. When the final Philly count comes out substantially below '04, Nutter can legitimately claim population loss as the reason.

"2. If after the polls close, IN, VA, NC, GA, NH and/or ME-2 appear to be going for McCain, how long will the networks delay before calling them?"

They won't call them at all. (IN and GA excepted - those really aren't in the mix) They will shift the story to the lawsuits in PA and OH - which are all typed up and ready to file.

[sbw]

I think the most entertaining bad karma B-flick nightmare is if BO wins, and shortly thereafter the public discovers it has been lied to in every instance during the campaign, and only has Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi to fall back on in any impeachment.

[Captain Hate]

I've really gotta stop watching FNS; I keep turning it on thinking that they'll break out of their recent flirtation with absolute stoopidity and return to how they were when Tony Snow was still with us. But I guess assmunch Chris "Yes I'm my father's son" Wallace has permanently destroyed the brand. I kept waiting through their panel discussion for somebody to point out that Obammy never did as well in the primaries as the polls indicated but they all just sat around like a bunch of zombie axelturfers.

[hrtshpdbox]

"Only if they hear about it, kim. Unless it hits Drudge or the MSM I don't know if that will happen."

Exactly, and the Drudge headline right now is "The Righteous Wind" with a relief photo of Obummer. Gotta be pretty disappointed in those whose stock in trade is scandal gotcha's, particularly when there should be four or five such stories swirling around a character like O at any given time.

[Pofarmer]

Geez sbw. Thanks for that reassuring thought.

[Pofarmer]

Captain.

I've never seen what the big deal was about Fox news. In General, I've always found there coverage pretty incomplete, and still giving way too much credence to the left. They only seem conservative because the other networks are so far left.

[Pofarmer]

And I've never understood how anyone could watch or listen to Bill Oreilly. Simply painful.

[Jim Ryan]

Drudge has it but not banner.

[hrtshpdbox]

"And I've never understood how anyone could watch or listen to Bill Oreilly. Simply painful."

He manages to get just about everything wrond, doesn't he? And if there's a chance for his own ego to be bruised or fluffed regarding any issue, that's when you really have to watch out for the bizzaro-conclusions. Pretty sure he's a Harvard grad, and that does help explain his stupidity a little.

[hrtshpdbox]

wrond = wrong (doh! = me)

[Jane Plumber]

In General, I've always found there coverage pretty incomplete, and still giving way too much credence to the left. They only seem conservative because the other networks are so far left.

That's my take on it too.

My optimism is waning. Can someone lay out the path McCain needs to take to win it?

PA, FL, OH, VA, IN, NC?

[centralcal]

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Good for a couple of giggles and a lot of groans.

[hrtshpdbox]

"PA, FL, OH, VA, IN, NC?"

I'd be astounded if McCain doesn't win FL, IN, and NC. I think OH leans his way, too, and that PA and VA are the tougher scenarios. NH, NV, that one district in ME - if it's close those could all be interesting factors.

[Rick Ballard]

Jane,

Hold FL, NC, VA and OH (I just can't put IN in that mix, the split was 59.9/39.3 in '04 and the Dems are working the Marion County early call - not actually winning the state). McCain is within MOE in all of those states and Obama isn't above 50% in any of them according to Mason Dixon which was the firm with the best record in '04. Note that MD has McCain up in OH and NC and down in VA and FL. Also note that the undecided number is very large and the voters within the undecided group are very white (84%, all cases).

He has to win PA and I think he will. The MD Poll for PA is a little old (five whole days) but the 9% undecided and the fact that Zero wasn't close to 50% gives ample reason for hope.

I think McCain may lose the popular and win the electoral based on those MD polls, the fact that Zero isn't above 50% where it counts and the very large (for this late in the game) undecided are the basis for my opinion.

[Jane Plumber]

Rick,

Well that helps in the optimism battle. Thank you!

[pagar]

" Can someone lay out the path McCain needs to take to win it?"

If McCain has any money left, I think he should get the Obama plan to bankrupt the US Coal industry on the TV, IN USA Today, On the radio. Whatever and whereever he can.

My personal sense is McCain/Palin can win it.
But if Obama wins - there will be no meaningful American right. Does anyone really think there is a meaningful Cuban right in Cuba today? Does anyone really think there is a meaningful right wing still in Venezuela or many other countries?
Not only will there be no meaningful right in the US, unlike Cuba and Venezuela, there will be no nation for the American right to go.

[Gmax]

In my considered opinion, based on watching what happened in the Democrat primaries, undediceds of the magnitude we are still seeing are not undecides at all. These folks are saying "nunya business" and mean "not Obama". Hill ended up with about 70% of these voters in the primaries, and right now the mix includes some economic nervous nellies who were polling for McCain before the stock market tanked. They return to the fold so that McCain takes about 75 or maybe even 80% of the undecided voters. 4 to 1 may sound crazy but that is about what happened with Hill and now undecided Republicans are in the mix too. So if IBD has about 11% undecideds, that is a plus 6.5% addition to MAC. And IBD has it a 2 point margin.

Hide and watch, and tell your grandkids about Dewey not beating Truman in 2008 either...

[Jane Plumber]

Yeah but Hillary lost.

[Joe M. Hanes, Also]

Jane:

"Can someone lay out the path McCain needs to take to win it"

Playing with the interactive Electoral Map M. Simon posted, it looks to me like McCain has got to hang on to Florida, North Carolina, Virginia and Ohio. If he actually manages to pull off Pennsylvania, I think we can go ahead and break out the champagne.

If the PA results are delayed, per Rick above, I would worry that potential corruption there could be a deciding factor. If McCain loses Virginia as well, it's going to be a very long, mostly depressing, night for keeping hope alive. Considering Obama's history, I also share Rick's expectation that legal maneuvering will kick in immediately or sooner -- giving the networks fodder for more punditry on questionable exit polling than final results and nullifying any possible McCain momentum.

It's interesting that McCain and Palin plan to end up in Nevada. Hillary voters were probably most outraged by the caucusing there. If the anti-Obama folks mount a more energetic GOTV effort as a result, the Nevada race could be a lot tighter than it looks in the polls -- which may explain the M/P itinerary.

On the wishful thinking front, if California's electors were assigned proportionally, elections would be a lot easier for Republicans. Thank God for Texas!

[Rick Ballard]

Jane,

I don't know if you remember but my initial premise concerning Zero's candidacy was that he was actually running for Jesse Jackson's job - poverty pimp in chief. If you examine his bitter clinger remarks in the context of establishing the post election meme of "white racists cost this fine young man the election" and look at Rendell and Murtha's references to PA rednecks and consider the emphasis on NC, VA and FL (only FL makes real sense), then you can see the clear shape of the propaganda going forward in the event of a loss.

No matter the outcome, this election will cement the AA community more tightly to the Dems. The fact that Zero's zealotry regarding support of black baby killers continues to diminish the political value of the AA community will never sink in - the community is hell bent on suicide and nothing will stop it. Fortunately, they are marching to oblivion side by side with their prog masters.

GMax,

I think 4:1 is going to be the final split on undecideds as well. I also believe that NV isn't nearly as close as it appears due to the fact that the Hispanics just ain't gonna vote for Zero - they demonstrated that fact at the caucus and the SEIU thugs aren't going to be standing next to them in the voting booth.

[bgates]

Jane, if we were having caucuses and superdelegates on Tuesday, I'd be worried. PA, OH, and WV are running the same contest that Obama lost by 20 in the spring, except this time they're letting Republicans vote too.

[Elliott]

Porchlight,

I don't have any numbers. DJ Drummond offers this:

2. The record on early voting is too short to establish a statistically valid trend, but even the last two elections have shown significantly different levels of participation in voter turnout by party between early and election-day voting. There is no basis for presuming that early voting turnout will be reflected the same way on November 4.

My, far from bold prediction remains unchanged.*
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*Scholarship to support prediction linked here.

[Mike Drew]

Come on Florida, lets hope you forgot how to vote again so that we can have overtime election coverage. Maybe we can have a month worth of recounts and investigation into Obama's citizenship while we are at it. The Main Stream Illuminati Media will have this race called by 1:00 pm (EST) for Obama and it will CNN that makes the call. They will retract that statement for 30 mins and then repost it at 1:30 pm.

[Elliott]

With today's IBD/TIPP numbers a 2:1 split among the undecideds in McCain's favor would put him just over 50%.

[Jane Plumber]

Florida, North Carolina, Virginia and Ohio. If he actually manages to pull off Pennsylvania, I think we can go ahead and break out the champagne.

I have a good feeling about PA, but I too assume O has lots and lots of tricks up his sleeve to manipulate lots of things, should the need arise.

[pdbuttons]

watch NH-'tis the live free or die state
if it goes red
it's over
hi mark steyn!

[Sarah Joeseph Ballard]

Rasmussen on exit polling

Shorter version - it's gonna be 180ct pure carp.

[Sue]

Good Lord. Biden was telling the truth when he told that woman in the rope line we wouldn't be building anymore coal plants. I hope someone, somewhere is putting this out in the states that need to hear it.

[hit and run]

I like that Rasmussen article.

The pure carp of the exit polling, I like decidedly less, to understate the case.

[PeterUK]

You don't need to go down mines Daddy,you'll get shafted here above ground.

[Porchlight]

Thanks, all.

Exit polling makes me grind my teeth. When I voted in 2004 the stupid NYT exit poll gal was standing at the front of the school where all the voters were going in, instead of at the back of the school, where all the voters were coming out. So in order to have participated in the exit poll you had to have:

1) exited the wrong way after voting
2) been willing to answer the poll questions in front of the line of incoming voters who had nothing to stare at but you.

I'd be shocked if she got 1 out of 50 voters to participate.

Re: undecideds, if they can really be called that - I think they will break minimum 3:1 for McCain. It may be closer to 4:1.

I think McP are ending up in Nevada because they want to help boost their visibility and voter morale past the close of polls earlier in the country. For that reason it makes sense to have the late rallies in the swing state furthest to the west (and closest to both their home states).

[Clarice]

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TIPP: OBAMA 46.7%... MCCAIN 44.6%... NOT SURE 8.7%...

Pls someone make sure Don Surber has the coal story--I'm tied up and he's right in the middle of Appalachia. Thnx

[Sue]

You know what bugs me about Obama rallies? They chant "Yes we can". At McCain/Palin rallies it is "USA, USA".

[Jim Ryan]

Don has the story.

[Sarah Joseph Ballard]

Sarah's already on the stump and hitting the coal story hard in Ohio. Surber would have to be unconscious to miss it but I'll send it over.

[Sue]

My husband told me earlier he is sick of hearing McCain's stump speech (same with Sarah, Obama) but at the end of each speech when McCain does his fight, fight with me, my husband wants to stand up and fight with him, fight....it has him pumped up everytime he hears it.

[hrtshpdbox]

"...but at the end of each speech when McCain does his fight, fight with me.."

Ha, yeah, I like that finale too; none too eloquent but plenty heart-felt and effective.

[Elliott]

hrtshpdbox,

Can you get another wish list going? It worked pretty well a couple weeks ago.

[Jane Plumber]

I can't believe McCain is 72 years old and full of old fractures. He really is a marvel.

[pagar]

Clarice, if you really want to see people who have drank the koolaid, Gateway has the coal story. The comments from the bankrupt America crowd who are all in favor of paying more for electric service, are quite revealing.

LUN

[BobS]

I didn't realize how TM was so down on McCain-Palin chances.

If McCain-Palin get PA, it probably means they've won anyhow. But in any even that the GOP wins, it will mark an end to traditional pollsters. Perhaps if its even close, it likely will as I just don't see Obama getting 330 E-votes. What seems likely to be is that if Obama does win it will be because the GOP lost Colorado.

[Sarah Joseph Ballard]

BobS,

TM has had more than moderate success as a contrarian indicator. He's just trying to maintain the tradition.

[BobS]

Thats a really cool interactive map. The media have been trying to give NC, FL, IN, MS, and VA to Obama with their heavily slanted polling to Dems. Using this map I don't seem how it can possibly be the Obama landslide they've been advancing.

[PaulL]

McCain will win, but he will be behind in the popular vote. Those huge blue cities in the blue states are going to be wracking up the numbers for Obama, to no avail.

But expect an outcry much bigger than in 2000.

The battleground states are not going to be called early by the TV shows, especially under no circumstances when they look good for McCain. So expect the Electoral Count to be lopsidedly in Obama's favor, and lots of chatter about how McCain would have to get every remaining state to win, et cetera.

If we get Pennsylvania, that's the ballgame. Without PA, it's much tougher, but still possible.

[you betcha centralcal]

Been away doing Sunday chores and laundry and come back to see the TIPP poll with 2.1 spread and undecideds who I think will break for M/P.

'Bout time. I guess they are just about the only honest polling outfit left.

[BobS]

For the past several weeks the media have been trumpeting every poll showing Obama ahead. Polls showing McCain-Palin's strength get shoved to the bottom of the page.

The media wants to create a "feeling" of Obama's imminent victory. It is nothing less than psychological warfare to drain you of your enthusiasm.

Don't buy into this nonsense.

We can win this

This was from Newsmax. I couldn't agree more.

[pagar]

BobS, IMO, if Obama wins it will be because of fraud. His entire life story reeks of it, but the caucus fraud put him in position to win and it has never been challenged, of than some of the bloggers like Lynette Long.

LUN

[you betcha centralcal]

Oh, and according to our paper, looks like Acorn has even been hitting us in the Central Valley too.

California is always a blue state, and the valley is red, but only marginally so. What gives with voter fraud, here? Hardly needed.

[BobS]

PaulL:

Using that CNN map, I have the GOP losing PA but retaining FL and OH and winning NH. It gives the GOP 269 and needing one of those Maine votes or picking off Iowa, Colorado. Switching PA with OH give McCain-Palin 270.

[BobS]

PAGAR:

I'm an admirer of Professor Long's work and remember you were the one who directed me to her. My own feeling is right now is that individual state GOPs have done a pretty good job at combating ACORN. Yet you could still be correct in states like IN, NC and FL in the event they go to Obama. I'm not hopeful for OH anyhow and I have to admit its because of ACORN and their criminal Sec of State.

[Porchlight]

If you don't want to give CNN any hits, I like the interactive map at 270towin.com better anyway. It's easier to change the color of the states and you can see the electoral history of the state you're clicking also. Use the drop-down menu to change the map to display past elections.

Interactive Map at 270towin.com

[PaulL]

I guaranteed Ohio for McCain from the beginning. They didn't need to hold dozens of rallies here.

I don't see any way Obama gets Ohio and loses Pennsylvania. The tough thing on PA is voter fraud in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. That's a lot to overcome. If it were a fair count, I wouldn't worry a bit.

[M. Simon]

Yeah but Hillary lost.

Posted by: Jane Plumber | November 02, 2008 at 01:28 PM

There are no caucuses on 4 Nov.

[M. Simon]

Yeah but Hillary lost.

Posted by: Jane Plumber | November 02, 2008 at 01:28 PM

There are no caucuses on 4 Nov.

[PaulL]

Yes, that 270towin map is nice. First thing, though. Knock off the blue for Virginia and PA.

[BobS]

PaulL: I'm hopeful in PA for the suburban and rural vote. McCain has always worn well there anyhow. Despite what some conservative elites are saying, I think Palin is extremely popular and may end up the reason that the GOP pulls this think off.

[BobS]

MSimon:

I hope you're right. Obama's dependingy on the ACORN fraud vote in big cities to be his caucuses. I'm worried about places like Gary, Charlotte, St. Louis, Philly, and Cleveland. But if the state party's are as effective as they've seemed, maybe it won't be as bad.

[hrtshpdbox]

"Can you get another wish list going? It worked pretty well a couple weeks ago."

Alright, in the small time-frame we've got to work with, I'll make wishes for:
1- A leak of, or some further details about, the Khalidi dinner tape.
2- An encouraging state poll from NH, IA or ME.
3- A surprise last minute McCain endorsement from a big name.

[M. Simon]

Oh, and according to our paper, looks like Acorn has even been hitting us in the Central Valley too.

California is always a blue state, and the valley is red, but only marginally so. What gives with voter fraud, here? Hardly needed.

CA is in play and may very well go MP.

If that is true: then a MP win is almost certain.

The question for me is will the EVs be at around 280 for MP or in the 400+ range? I'm backing off a little from my 450+ prediction.

Watch NJ. If MP take that we are in 400+ territory.

[M. Simon]

BTW I'm giving WA to MP. I think the King county crookedness has gotten the rest of the State riled up.

[BobS]

MSimon:

Blog on with that!!!

[Elliott]

CA is in play and may very well go MP.

It isn't and it won't.

[Sue]

PA Republicans are running a Wright ad.

[BobS]

Awwwww, Elliott. One can dream can't they?

[BobS]

Sue:

I wonder if they have any photos of John Murtha and Obama. Along with Guns, God and immigrant hate that should play well in rural PA

[Elliott]

One can dream can't they?

I thought we were supporting MP, not MPD.

[Joe M. Hanes, Also]

What Elliott said, alas.

[BobS]

rawwwwwwwww......Hey, look. I've put PA in play in my own hope vote. Once Rendel hit the public panic button, it became clear that Rendel knows he can't deliver it.

[Caro. also]

Regarding Nevada. I was driving from California across to Utah on I-80 last Monday. Talk radio was interesting in the breaks. I heard a commercial that I couldn't believe and had to listen carefully as it was repeated periodically. The speaker was Tony Dean, "lifelong Republican" and outdoorsman. He was supporting Obama on the basis of his support for the Second Amendment and most certainly our right to keep and bear arms.

I see he has a website and died on Oct. 16. Ironic.

[BobS]

Anyhoo, none of my models for GOP success has CA going red. I still can't help but high five MSimon for being positive though.
(say more MSimon)

[Sarah Joseph Ballard]

"PA Republicans are running a Wright ad."

Beyond the National Republican Trust 527? That would be nice.

[Sue]

The Richmond Dispatch says VA is basically a tie with 9% undecided. It goes on to say those undecided have probably decided against Obama.

[PaulL]

Yes, the Republican GOP ad running in Pennsylvania is different.

LUN

[Thomas Collins]

This election has come down to information suppression. If Mr. O Coal Workers Can Go ____ Themselves gets enough help from MSM in suppressing the November Surprise (although it is no surprise to those who have been paying attention to O's career), and the alternative media doesn't break through the MSM wall of silence, O wins. If not, McCain wins.

[PeterUK]

1 - A leak of, or some further details about, the Khalidi dinner tape.

Somebody rub my lamp?

Obama - Farrakhan connections.

[Jane Plumber]

Pew poll of likely voters says McCain up by 1.

[Porchlight]

Wouldn't it be just so sweet if Zero lost PA after picking Scranton Joe as VP. Heh.

[Porchlight]

Wow, Jane. Macmentum!

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Tell Them They Can, Senator Obama

When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Benjamin Franklin

Never before in our nation's history has the distinction between Constitutional guarantees of equal opportunity and the false perception of guaranteed equal outcomes been so blurred and indeed sullied. Barack Obama has craftily employed a messianic appeal to an ever expanding victim class he seeks to define, one in which he is attempting to corral the middle class in order to direct a majority ire at the "rich."

The Obama plan is to "spread the wealth around" even more than we already do - nearly 40% of Americans are already net income tax redistribution recipients rather than contributors. Yet, those who dare challenge his plans are ironically derided as radical, as well as unsubtly characterized as rascist - now the trump card played to dismiss and then silence objection to a Socialist agenda. ... More

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Sorry

[mockmook]

If M/P win, not only are the pollsters discredited forever, but the pundits on the Networks are too. All the Sunday regulars are giving 0bambi > 300EV.

It will be so sweet if they are wrong.

[Elliott]

Pew poll of likely voters says McCain up by 1.

Can I get an LUN from the choir?

[Clarice]

the next time any pollster publishes a poll of registered voters, I hope he's run out of business.