David Gregory's ascension to the throne vacated by Tim Russert may be announced today, according to the Politico. David Gregory took a pass on his role in the Valerie Plame case back in 2007 and will no doubt continue to do so. But with the possibility that a Scooter Libby pardon will make news, please indulge me while I publicly puzzle on a couple of points:
1. Former White House press spokesperson Ari Fleischer testified that he told John Dickerson and David Gregory that Joe Wilson's wife was involved in launching Wilson's infamous trip to Niger. John Dickerson responded with an arguably tepid "I have a different memory".
As to the truth, who knows? The record should note that Ari Fleischer also denied leaking to Walter Pincus of the Washington Post, but apparently had. This was happening during Mr. Fleischer's last week on the job during a surely-hectic Presidential trip to Africa, so a bit of confusion is understandable.
However! David Gregory, as best I know, has never addressed this since the trial (I held my breath for a while then gave up, even though I got many compliments for my nicely coordinated blue eyes and face.) And here is the rub - a definitive answer from Gregory would undermine either Ari Fleischer or Tim Russert, both of whom were important prosecution witnesses and one of whom was Gregory's boss at the time (Russert had claimed that if Gregory had known about a Wilson and wife link then Russert would have been told and he had not been). At the time the public's right to know took a back seat to placating Special Counsel Fitzgerald and Washington Bureau Chief Russert. And now?
David Gregory did offer a non-denial denial back when Tim Russert gathered his subordinates to walk through their stories following the Libby indictment. Interestingly, Gregory claimed that "I should just point out, that nobody called me at any point [with a Plame leak]"; Fleischer's testimony was that his leak to Gregory and Dickerson was face-to-face.
2. What was the cozy relationship between Special Counsel Fitzgerald and NBC News? There are a couple of glaring examples of Fitzgerald dancing with the NBC stars. First, there was his Jan 23, 2006 letter to Libby's counsel (Exhibit C) which mentioned John Dickerson as a possible leak recipient but, for no apparent reason, omitted David Gregory:
We also advise you that we understand that reporter John Dickerson of Time magazine discussed the trip by Mr. Wilson with government officials at some time on July 11 or after, subsequent to Mr. Cooper learning about Mr. Wilson's wife. Any conversations involving Mr. Dickerson likely took place in Africa and occurred after July 11.
That letter provoked a column from John Dickerson; surely there would have been public interest in Gregory's possible role, if Fitzgerald had noted it.
As a second example of Fitzgerald's deference to NBC, let me mention his staged court tussle with Tim Russert that was intended to force Russert to testify to Fitzgerald's grand jury. Russert had already discussed his interaction with Libby with the FBI. However, Russert claimed in his court filings that he could not cooperate with Fitzgerald's investigation because source protection was paramount. OK, it is understandable that Russert would want to pose as a lion of the free press, but it was a bit awkward given his previous cooperation.
Fortunately, Fitzgerald played along with this sham - in explaining to the judge that Russert had a past history of flexibility on source protection Fitzgerald cited an old television show but never mentioned the much more topical fact that Russert had already cooperated with the FBI. No doubt helpful for Tim's image as a stalwart of press freedom, but not fully forthcoming with the judge.
What was it with Fitzgerald and NBC? One might almost think that an aggressive prosecutor was protecting one of his star witnesses rather than probing for the truth.
I just know that David Gregory will want to unburden his conscience on these points.
When Tim Russert died, I realized just how personally close he, Andrea Mitchell, and David Gregory were. They were all in it together.
It galls me to hear Chris Matthews and his Scooter Libby-is-a-felon-countdown-to-a-pardon schtick on Hardball. Matthews himself got Libby involved with NBC by lying about Cheney's interaction with Wilson, and yet he insists it is his job as a journalist to make sure Obama succeeds as President.
Posted by: MayBee | December 02, 2008 at 12:29 PM
This actually links to the previous thread... In real life you don't lie because lying is wrong, not because liars get caught. In real life, you don't go committing perjury and getting someone convicted because in real life you might keel over from a heart attack before you have the opportunity to make things right.
Posted by: cathyf | December 02, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Brilliant observation, cathyf.
Posted by: MayBee | December 02, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Andrea Mitchell's "Everybody knew" became "I misspoke." Will they *all* carry it to their graves?
Posted by: Frau Jedöns | December 02, 2008 at 01:04 PM
I held my breath for a while then gave up, even though I got many compliments for my nicely coordinated blue eyes and face.
Nice line; I'll be stealing it.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | December 02, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Russert, Mitchell and Gregory had a story and they stuck with it. But why?
Posted by: LindaK | December 02, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Russert was not a Plame pal. He knew what happened with Plame. He just died. Matthews is Plame friendly and gets his show. Plame pals are getting paid, Plame non pals just die.
Posted by: KJF | December 02, 2008 at 02:05 PM
Russert, Mitchell and Gregory had a story and they stuck with it. But why?
Anything to hurt the President.
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 02:21 PM
Excellent, cathyf.
What's Mitchell's punishment..Having to wake up to Allen's face on the pillow next to hers' every morning? And Gregory's? Does he get a leg up on the competition as a payoff for ditching his conscience for his career?
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 02:32 PM
The Culinary Clarice Countdown, #4: Dinner with Soylent.
Posted by: The Birthday Fairy | December 02, 2008 at 02:42 PM
Gregory's new fame entitles him to a nice little background check, shall we?
Posted by: vinman | December 02, 2008 at 02:44 PM
I'm also afraid that Bob Novak is going to die before he tells us the identity of Wilson's friend that he met on the street.
Posted by: cathyf | December 02, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Happy Birthday, Clarice!
Jane, I have been thinking of "Tuesdays with Jane" today. How did it go? Don't mean to bug you but I love your updates.:)
Posted by: Ann | December 02, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Where's Topsecret and Mrs H&R? I think the sky tonight is trying to tell us something:"If you haven't seen the southwestern sky just after sunset, and even if you have, feast your eyes tonight -- it may be the same spectacular show that drew the wise men to Bethlehem in search of a newborn king. From our vantage point on the planet, it's a glowing triangle of Venus, Jupiter and the waxing crescent moon. "
I suppose I'm the waxing crescent in this threesome. *sigh*
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 03:02 PM
Aw, c'mon Clarice, claim the role of "bright, shining Venus". It IS your birthday after all!
I did notice that Jupiter and Venus were especially bright and very close together while hunting last weekend.
Any special reason for this "alignment"?
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 02, 2008 at 03:33 PM
This winter, Venus is the unrivaled evening star that will soar from excellent to magnificent prominence in the southwest at nightfall. The interval by which it follows the sun will increase from nearly three hours on Monday to almost four hours by Jan. 1.
Sounds like Clarice to me! See LUN.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 02, 2008 at 03:41 PM
What are the bets on Bush pardonning Libby. Also, if he does, can Libby get his law license back?
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Posted by: kim | December 02, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Jane, I have been thinking of "Tuesdays with Jane" today.
Today we named the show: "Fun with Dick and Jane". (you might have to be over 50 to get that)
WE talked about Obama's appointments specifically Hillary and Holde,- and how a national security briefing focuses the mind; the bailout for the auto companies; Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick; India and Pakistan; the new Red Sox casket (I pronounced that the news item of the week) the 5 cases facing the Supreme's about O; Judges (we have a new Supreme in MA who just wrote a brief defending poor homeowners against predatory lenders and some other stuff.
He agreed to let me tape the show and make a podcast (look for that in January).
My (now 2)listeners said I managed to keep him from going on and on and that was good.
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Happy birthdays to Clarice, Tops and Mrs. Hit and Run! It's a great day.
Posted by: Porchlight | December 02, 2008 at 04:17 PM
kim, if Libby is pardoned he will get his law license back--a pardon erases the conviction and but for that he'd not have had to turn in his license to practice.
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 04:19 PM
clarice:
I thought Nixon was disbarred, notwithstanding the pardon. You can get disbarred, even for actions that are not criminal.
Posted by: Appalled | December 02, 2008 at 04:26 PM
I suppose you can get disbarred for conduct which isn't criminal, but that's not the case here. He was a member in good standing who had to turn in his license solely because of the felony conviction. If he's pardoned, that conviction is erased and he can practice again.
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 04:30 PM
Happy Birthday Clarice, ts, and Mrs Run.
Jane, I'm 34 and I get the show title.
Just make sure nobody truncates it, or you'll have the FCC on you like Bubba on...
better not finish that, or I'll get the FCC after the blog.
Posted by: bgates | December 02, 2008 at 04:33 PM
Podcast!!! I may finally get to hear Jane's show (I was going to try to sneak out to the Auburn/Southbridge area today (where the station can be picked up), but work intervened).
I was going to call the station and tell them Jane's show should be on the programming guide, but I figured I should listen to one first in the event they asked me what in particular I liked about the show.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | December 02, 2008 at 04:34 PM
Just make sure nobody truncates it, or you'll have the FCC on you like Bubba on...
What does that mean?
Don't worry TC, no one would ask you that. And if they did, you simply need to reply: "Jane".
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 04:48 PM
"Fun with Dick" could be misconstrued.
Posted by: bgates | December 02, 2008 at 04:59 PM
For an example of how that sort of thing can happen on the radio, see here.
Posted by: bgates | December 02, 2008 at 05:02 PM
Done. Got the voice mail, so I left a message.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | December 02, 2008 at 05:05 PM
BTW a quick glance shows that Alger Hiss was the first lawyer in Massachusetts reinstated to the bar after a felony conviction.
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 05:12 PM
People are still watching TV? How backward.
Posted by: syn | December 02, 2008 at 05:19 PM
"Fun with Dick" could be misconstrued.
Ahhhh, I am getting old.
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 05:31 PM
Jane--you'll feel younger after you check out bgates link just above. It is so funnly!!!
Posted by: glasater | December 02, 2008 at 05:40 PM
I imagine that Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice also doesn't ring a bell with the young folks.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | December 02, 2008 at 05:41 PM
I saw it, and I actually saw it live (well on TV, but you know what I mean.)
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 06:09 PM
I wonder what kind of shows he won't do on Fannie and Freddie!
And if Bush pardons Libby, I will watch to see what perjury exactly means over at NBC.
Posted by: glenda waggoner | December 02, 2008 at 06:33 PM
The Culinary Clarice Countdown, #3: Dinner with Hit and Run.
Posted by: The Birthday Fairy | December 02, 2008 at 06:34 PM
I remember there being a third person named as being in the group with Gregory and Dickerson as Fleischer leaked to them, a less well known female journalist (who's name and affiliation I can't remember at the moment, but remarked upon here in the comments at the time), who, as far as I know, was never questioned as to her memory of Fleischer's communication. I never did understand that lacuna. I still don't.
Ah, wait, here she is.....Tamara Lippert, Newsweek....found in the transcript of Fleischer's testimony at FDL.
Posted by: sdferr | December 02, 2008 at 06:58 PM
I don't think Libby has asked for a pardon, and I would be surprised if Bush issued one unsolicited.
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 07:05 PM
If I were Libby,I wouldn't ask for a pardon,nor would I accept one if one were offered. Better to stand at the bar of history than let let the travesty of a trial stand.
Posted by: PeterUK | December 02, 2008 at 07:22 PM
I imagine that Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice also doesn't ring a bell with the young folks.
I'd pay a significant amount of money to have that bell clapper permanently removed.
Posted by: Captain Hate | December 02, 2008 at 07:33 PM
Nice one, Cap'n..I can't believe I ever thought Elliot Gould was cute=wait=I didn't!
And, Happy Birthday, also, to tops and Mrs.Hit--she, must have the patience of Jobe!
Posted by: glenda waggoner | December 02, 2008 at 07:48 PM
Remind me again to whom David Gregory is married.
Posted by: bad | December 02, 2008 at 08:01 PM
Bgates, I am staying late at work tonight to get ahead of the December rush. I came back from dinner at Brandy Pete's in the Financial District of Boston ready to get rolling after a nice salmon plate. I click your link and watch, and all I can think about now are NPR announcers enjoying edible Xmas "spheres." How am I supposed to get work done???? :-))))
Posted by: Thomas Collins | December 02, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Beth Wilkinson, general counsel to Fannie Mae; what do I win?
Posted by: narciso | December 02, 2008 at 08:43 PM
My everlasting gratitude, you fountain of wisdom.
Posted by: bad | December 02, 2008 at 08:53 PM
Happy Birthday, Tops and Mrs. Hit!
I can't wait to hear the podcast for "Fun with Dick and Jane".
Speaking of fun, took the girls to the mall for Christmas shopping this afternoon. Our first stop was Barnes and Noble and the first thing in the store was a kiosk of childrens books for "Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope". Yes, gag me!
Upstairs we went to the biography section because they all had to buy a bio for a school project. You would not believe the number of biographies already published for our Dear Leader and his wife. Gag me, again!!
Just to make sure I wasn't imagining the number of books I saw, I googled amazon.com when I got home and there are 2,637 results for books on : BARACK How can there be so many books on two people that have not accomplished anything. It was sobering and depressing.
The rest of the shopping trip wasn't any better. The entire mall had Barack Obama T-shirts for sale. You just can't get away from the insanity. I guess I am back to Turner Classic Movies with my blanky.
What are we teaching our children about leadership, accomplishments, working hard, patriotism, ... nevermind, I know the answer and it is frightening.
The only good that came out of our trip was that I was there to help direct them to women biographies on Martha Washington, Louisa May Alcott, Annie Oakley, Abigail Smith Adams, etc. (They have to dress like the woman they are reporting on and the time period is 1700- 1800) Thank goodness for that.
Sorry, for rambling but this is just the beginning!
Posted by: Ann | December 02, 2008 at 08:54 PM
There's still Iowahawk, Ann.
Apologetic Mumbai Killers: "We Didn't Get the Memo About Obama"
Posted by: Extraneus | December 02, 2008 at 09:09 PM
happy b-day clarice!
Posted by: not_bubaroooni | December 02, 2008 at 09:10 PM
Happy Birthday Clarice! I am honored to share this day with you.
Posted by: mrs hit and run | December 02, 2008 at 09:11 PM
it's my oldest daughters b-day too. the big 1-3. alas, a teenager...
oddly enough, when i awoke this morning my back hurt, my hair a bit thinner and my eyes not quite as functional as the day before.
having a teenager must mean i'm getting old...
Posted by: not_bubaroooni | December 02, 2008 at 09:13 PM
hmmmm...
i did get the dick and jane reference earlier.
Posted by: not_bubaroooni | December 02, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Just you wait bubaroooni. Happy B-day Mrs Hit, thanks for sharing your husband with us, and to you too Tops. I miss your late nite postings.
Posted by: Jane | December 02, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Extraneus, LOL!
Wow, I needed that. Thank you!
Posted by: Ann | December 02, 2008 at 09:30 PM
Ditto, Mrs. H--thought with all these threads, who knows when we'll meet again.
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 09:51 PM
Oh, it's kinda sad that Tops hasn't been here to visit in a while, what with all the good birthday wishes.
And, Hit, I hope you are truly conveying to Mrs. Hit all of our best wishes on her birthday. Maybe she should get her own computer as a gift? Then she could get a JOM nome d'plume (or however it is spelled) - just to keep you on your toes, etc., etc. also. (h/t Sarah Palin and Ann).
Posted by: centralcal | December 02, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I sent topsecret and Email wishing her a happy birthday and asking her to try to stop in.
I thought I was misssing her only because I go to bed earlier now than I did last year.
Posted by: clarice | December 02, 2008 at 10:08 PM
You gotta love Washington, where no one except Republicans are held accountable for their actions. Bankrupt the country? no worries! Store $100k in bribes in your refrigerator? Get a pass! Prevaricate about yellowcake? not a problem! Run a gay prostitution ring from your apartment? More power to you! scam home loans for your personal benefit while legislating on the issue! Hey, you're just a friend of Angelos!
Posted by: matt | December 02, 2008 at 10:12 PM
having a teenager must mean i'm getting old...
Just wait. My granddaughter turns 13 in a month.
Posted by: DrJ | December 02, 2008 at 10:14 PM
I was hoping someone emailed Tops, she is missed, a lot, also. :)
I keep trying to get my husband to join us at JOM, I regularly update him on all of you and he laughs with me, but I can't get him to do anymore than that. It is probably for the best because then he would find out what a flirt I am. :)
Looks like our fair lady helped in Georgia. Woot Woot.
Posted by: Ann | December 02, 2008 at 10:21 PM
People are still watching TV? How backward.
Not me. I watch Vermont.
"Barack Obama: Son of Promise, Child of Hope".
Somehow he only ever talks about Promise, even though he was brought up by the Hope family.
With all the books, there's got to be a market for Obama Carols. Anybody who has a recording studio, we've got to get on this.
Obama! The stars are brightly shining,
It is the night of the inauguration.
Long lay the world in sin and error pining.
Till He appeared and the Spirit felt its worth.
A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices,
For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn.
Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the tv commentator voices!
O night divine, the night when Obama became President;
O night, Obama, Obama divine!
It's remarkable how little Christmas carols need to be changed to fit.
Is anyone else surprised that Firefox still treats "Obama" like a spelling error, when he's actually much, much worse?
Posted by: bgates | December 02, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Saxby triumphant, and Coleman may win, too.
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Posted by: kim | December 02, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Conclusion to "A Man For All Seasons"
"Thomas More's head was stuck on Traitor's Gate for a month. Then his daughter, Margaret, removed it and kept it 'til her death. Cromwell was beheaded for high treason five years after More. The Archbishop was burned at the stake. The Duke of Norfolk should have been executed for high treason but the King died of syphilis the night before. Richard Rich became Chancellor of England and died in his bed."
Scooter Libby will always be remembered as some kind of criminal by the masses, Tim Russert died of a heart attack because of the guilt that he bore, George Bush will be hounded to the end of his days regarding Iraq, "Bush Lied, People Died!".
And David Gregory will become the leading face and voice for NBC News, and will retire someday to be called something like "Dean of American TV jouranlism", or some similar hogwash.
Posted by: E. Nigma | December 02, 2008 at 10:46 PM
The Culinary Clarice Countdown, Tools of the Trade edition.
Posted by: The Birthday Fairy | December 02, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Shirley, there will be many press/thinktanky panels with Gregory that take questions from the audience.
Someone needs to ask the question.
Conservatives are bad about not getting to these CSPAN type events and asking tough questions--questions that I believe can make news (because every once in a while the answerer will slip up and tell the truth).
And, don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: mockmook | December 02, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the tv commentator voices!
bgates, you crack me up! I have been listening to Christmas cds in the car and you are absolutely correct.
I keep thinking of a Chris Matthews carol for "The Drummer Boy". (Something about a thrill going up his leg, pa rum pum pum pum, On my, hardball show.)
Posted by: Ann | December 02, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Mrs H & R!
What a pleasure -- your fan club here at JOM hopes you've had a lovely Birthday. [Psst....You might want to rethink leaving Mr. H & R alone when there's beer in the house though. Just sayin']
E. Nigma:
An absolutely inspired juxtaposition!
Posted by: JM Hanes | December 02, 2008 at 11:25 PM
After sitting in on Clarice's table so many times in one day, I feel positively stuffed, Birthday Fairy, culinarily speaking. And humbled!
Posted by: JM Hanes | December 02, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Looks like our fair lady helped in Georgia. Woot Woot.
You betcha, Ann. And I hepped too (by voting).
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | December 02, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Now all we have to do is get Franken, fricking out of here and the Rinos to hear us when it counts, Jim. Thank you. I am feeling a little Hopey.
Posted by: Ann | December 02, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Lift up your heads, ye press corps flacks,
And cover for these White House hacks
Your Chosen One is drawing near,
Your Savior of the world is here;
High tax and graft doth He bring,
And $30 thousand dollar rings:
We know he's President now!
But still can't work out how!
Oh blest the networks, the media blest,
Where Barry the Ruler is confessed!
Oh happy hearts and happy homes
To whom His Welfare payment comes!
A clueless social engineer,
Who bringeth Food Stamps for my beer.
A Comforter divine,
As long as I get mine!
Posted by: Soylent Red | December 03, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Oh dear, I missed the EST deadline. Happy birthday, Clarice. Your birthday lasts longer here in the west.
And another one of Clarice's kitchen favorites to remember.
Posted by: Caro | December 03, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Happy, happy birthday to you. I can't say how much I've appreciated your commentary over the last several years.
Posted by: C.R. | December 03, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Happy Birthday to my favorite JOMers!!
Posted by: MayBee | December 03, 2008 at 01:07 AM
Yes--The West Coast is still celebrating Clarice's birthday:-)
For the Birthday Fairy--could you please find out from Clarice when the Whiskey Smoked Salmon is added to the risotto?
Posted by: glasater | December 03, 2008 at 01:45 AM
Kim, Coleman already won, now it's just a matter of will the democratic party in the Senate decide to take it from him, which I was very surprised to find out that they can. To all you smart people...how does this work?
Posted by: Donald | December 03, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Yes, I note that. How can Franken go whining to the Senate?
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Posted by: kim | December 03, 2008 at 09:12 AM
That the Senate can is different than that the Senate will. If Harry Reid releases this genie from the bottle, it will have the consequence of poisoning the Congressional well.
Of course, Harry Reid is tone deaf to this sort of thing.
Posted by: sbwaters | December 03, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Reid's ears may not work, but his nose does.
A new report from the Brookings Institution warns Obama that Iran will be nuclear within a year, but blames Bush for making them do it. How surprising.
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Posted by: kim | December 03, 2008 at 10:06 AM
glasater. I add it just after the rice is cooked...It is one of my favorite recipes. It is absolutely delicious.
One of the wonderful things this trip is to see my three year old grand daughter doing a great job baking(we made foccacia, and with her mom she made apple cinnamon muffins and chocolate chip cookies) and has a fabulous palate...She loves goat cheese on nice artisanal bread and Djella's fabulous octopus salad...
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Happy belated birthday to Clarice, Mrs. HnR, and Tops!
Kim,
I emailed the Reid quote to my Democratic wife. Somehow, after all these years, it still manages to be the single most disgusting thing she's heard from a Senate leader.
Really, I never thought there would come a circumstance under which I would think more highly of Daschle.
And please don't get me started on how much it cheapens the position held by Dole, Mitchell, Baker, and Frist--gentlemen all. Heck, the worst Lott did was wax enthusiastic at a birthday party.
(Fortunately, I was either too young or inebriated to notice Byrd's tenure.)
Posted by: Walter | December 03, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Thamk you C.R. and MayBee. Soylent--that one is fantastic!
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Man, you hustle all over that mall, and the various Presidential shrines and war memorials and you can't help but stink. But however badly you stink, it doesn't hold a candle to the odor wafting from Reid.
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Posted by: kim | December 03, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Clarice--thanks so much! Have access to some fab smoked salmon from a wonderful seafood dealer on the Oregon coast and wanted to give that recipe a try.
And December is when the Dungeness crab starts coming on. Another reason to celebrate the Holidays.
Posted by: glasater | December 03, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Today's media outrage:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/aps_terror_photographer_honore_1.html>Bilal Hussein
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Thanks for the link on Bilal Hussein, clarice.
We watched "Chaplin" over the weekend, and this brings to mind a scene at a big Hollywood party, where a Nazi holds the crowd in thrall by talking about his better way.
It seems the beautiful people have always had an appetite for celebrating the horribleness of this country.
Posted by: MayBee | December 03, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Yes, they have, MayBee. A large part of the British American elite were either for Hitler or opposed to battling him until the hitler-Stalin Pact collapsed.
glasater--check in later. I'll double check my Villa D'Este cookbook to see if my memory is correct. (I add it later, because I noe make it in a pressure cooker and it would overcook if I put it in sooner. I want to see what you do following the traditional remedy.)Be right back.
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 11:29 AM
OT, sorta, but since we are on food,,,
fab smoked salmon from a wonderful seafood dealer
Does anyone on the left coast know of a good replacement for whitefish? We used to get it in South Haven, MI, from a small fishery on Lake Michigan when I was a kid. Now that I smoke fish routinely, I find that it is really hard to get here. Yes, there are others, but smoked whitefish is a special treat.
And December is when the Dungeness crab starts coming on.
We had our first crabs of the season on Monday. Absolutely wonderful.
Posted by: DrJ | December 03, 2008 at 11:36 AM
glasater, I checked the hotel's cookbook--using the traditional method, they estimate it takes 17-20 minutes for the rice to absorb the broth and they add the salmon sauce at the 10 minute (about halfway mark). As I said, you cannot do this is you make it in a pressure cooker when you really should add it at after the 10 minute mark when you've opened the cooker..usually then you have several minutes in which you need to stir the risotto to get the rice to absorb the last bits of liquid.
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Happy Birthday Clarice!
I wish you many happy returns..
Posted by: HoosierHoops | December 03, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Mark Steyn could have been describing David Gregory in this about Americans who'd like to be a certain kind of European
Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan | December 03, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Clarice--the reason I asked about when to put the smoked salmon in the risotto is that I didn't want to massacre the fish:-)
Here is a link to where I get the smoked salmon:
Barnacle Bill's
And here is a link to get the best canned smoked Tuna I've ever tasted. They also ship Dungeness that are huge! Lighthouse has a seawater tank for almost year 'round crab:-)
Lighthouse
Posted by: glasater | December 03, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Thanks, HH.
glasater, you will love the risottot. I promise you, and it will come out just fine--it's not all that exacting..
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 12:24 PM
More Global Warming Hysteria from those in the "know"... LUN.
What else can be blamed on this farce with little to no evidence???
I guess it is still the "nature of the charge" that is important, with Hard Facts and Evidence not important at all.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 03, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Dr J - See LUN for possible source of Whitefish.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 03, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I like smoked whitefish, too. We used to drive to Port Washington Wis when I was a kid for it and for the most delicious fried perch sandwiches.
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 12:43 PM
clarice is already making work for the Birthday Fairy next year (or rather, the power behind the Birthday Fairy).
Posted by: MayBee | December 03, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Clarice - here is a recipe for you (LUN):
HORSERADISH CRUSTED MICHIGAN WHITEFISH WITH CARAMELIZED ONION BALSAMIC JUS AND LEMON BASIL EMULSION
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 03, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Mmm..I went checking on the restaurant we used to go to in Port Washington--Smith Bros--but it's sadly out of business:
http://www.geocities.com/rooksmith/SmithBrosHeritage.html It was one of the oldest operations in the Midwest and had apparently a number of branches on the LA area, too.
Let me check that out PD..I don't know if fresh(as opposed to smoked) whitefish is available here either.
Posted by: clarice | December 03, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Who needs all the fish-type, fancy-shmancy stuff. The goal is to get the caramelized onions into your mouth.
I recommend tossed pizza dough on the 350 degree (Medium) Weber grill for two minutes. Flip and cover with caramelized onions. Cook another three minutes or until browned.
Chow down!
Posted by: sbwaters | December 03, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Can I ask a dumb (You really can't be a lawyer can you?) question.
If Obama should lose the challenge on his birth certificate (I don't think he will, this isn't a prediction) would the election be invalidated or would Biden become president?
Posted by: Jane | December 03, 2008 at 01:00 PM