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December 31, 2008

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kim

Is anyone sure this ball is eligible? Have you seen its birth certificate?
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bunky

I hope you all have a great 2009. I am confident it is going to be a good one and alot of fun. JOM' ers rule.

Jane

Happy New Years everyone. I suspect I am here for the duration. No place I'd rather be.

sbw

My B-I-L gets sworn in as a judge today in Lafayette, IN, and we are here for the festivities.

Family time, so light commenting. But I would be remiss if I did not reflect on the kindness of TM and this community. I have learned so much from this good and decent crowd. In fact, this group is the only thing, my family aside, that has kept 2008 from being a kidney stone of a year.

Here's to a better 2009!

Jane

Congrats to your B-I-L sbw, that's very cool.

I posted this in the other thread, - the Kass article today is not to be missed. LUN

It just started snowing here...

Extraneus

Jane, I noticed your comment in the earlier thread about wanting to "regulate" your recordings. I think what you may be thinking of is audio compression. This is used in music and other recordings to tame the overall dynamics, essentially squeezing the really loud and really quiet sounds into a smaller range, so nothing's so quiet you can't hear it or so loud you can't stand it. (No reason to read the whole article at the link, but you might want to check out the figure in the "limiting" section.)

Although you could probably buy a cheap compressor, I would think the studio already handles all this, including reverb to make your voice sound bigger, etc. Maybe you could plug your recorder into an output from their equipment, rather than using a microphone, if that's what you're doing, or record the output from a radio receiver?

PeterUK

Much as I am against euthanasia,I feel 2008 should be put out of its misery as soon as is decent.October would have been best.

lonetown

I think the last option would make the ball dropping, jaw dropping good entertainment!

kim

Yass, Kass kicks ass.
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Porter

sbw- very cool for the B-i-L, congrats to him.

Jane- Good Kass, but he left out splitting the jury pool in the Ill. House. Makes a very good case for not being able to impeach (which is what the House does) and not even making it to the Ill. Senate. And it absolutely emasculates Mike Madigan.

Fun for all!

centralcal

Happy New Year to all.

With Bill & Hillary pushing the red button, who knows what might happen to the ball?

kim

When will it hit Obama that Bill and Hillary are taking over the world?
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Jane

Maybe you could plug your recorder into an output from their equipment, rather than using a microphone, if that's what you're doing, or record the output from a radio receiver?

Extraneaus,

I did that yesterday. I have to do something on the recorder. That means I have to actually read the directions, which means I have to find my magnifying glasses and some very good light. I began that venture last night, however it quickly became apparent that I will have to read the directions from the beginning not just the relevant part, so I have reserved that task for another time.

Getting old sucks. And whining about it as I just did, is even worse.

Sue

I wonder if Obama is wondering why on earth he wanted this job?

narciso

I agree with you Peter, probably around October 31st, with a shotgun. McCain humiliating himself on SNL (with Tina Fey providing a whiff of confusion)Election Day, itself, seeing the Dow drop another 20%
was nauseating enough. Would have missed Sarah's comeback in Miami and on Greta; but everything else has been nauseating. Well present company accepted of course.

narciso

Hope we all have a much better 2009, for all concerned.

centralcal

Sue, I couldn't agree with you more. And, the emphasis is on JOB.

narciso

P.S, this was the one year that Dave Barry's account of things seemed more plausible, and satisfying, It's been that kind of a year.

clarice

I hope you all have a wonderful New Year..full of health and happiness. (And I hope Steyn dumps Jane for MOI).There . I said it.

Jane

(And I hope Steyn dumps Jane for MOI).

Not bloody likely! Harrumph!

Thomas Collins

Best to your whole family, sbw, as you all celebrate the swearing-in ceremony and your brother-in-law's new responsibilities.

And I hope all JOMers, in whatever time zone, have fun bringing in the New Year. May all your resolutions be kept (at least for the first week). As for my resolutions, I can't settle on any. I guess if that state remains, in a little under fourteen hours I will be resolutionless. I'm open to any suggestions. My initial thoughts involve an increase in physical activity (such as swimming at least three times a week), a sustained reading venture (such as a really careful reading of a portion of Aquinas' Summary of Theology), and an internal being goal (such as becoming more ordered in my responses to people at whom I am angry). I would be interested in hearing about any New Year's resolutions JOMers have.

clarice

Jane. you might be interested in this from an AT commenter:
"For everyone’s information, one of the two attorneys signing the Complaint, Rodney Smolla, is an excellent First Amendment academic and practising attorney. I have three of his books. One of them is entitled “Suing The Press,” which reviews major defamation cases, including the Westmoreland and Sharon cases. He was the lawyer who litigated the case seeking to hold liable the publisher of a hitman booklet."

clarice

James Lewis is the penname of a scientist who writes for AT on a wide variety of subjects..Here is his analysis of the Gaza strikes:
"To drive Hamas out of Gaza Israel would therefore have to put at risk enough infantry and armor to uproot 20,000 deeply bunkered Iran-trained, suicidal defenders, much like the Imperial Japanese in World War II. It cannot afford to do that strategically, because Gaza is only one out of four dangerous fronts -- Syria, Hezbollah and Iran are all potentially more dangerous. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.


Further, Israel cannot afford to put thousands of lives at risk in an optional war, because it is a democracy and its army is one of the last citizens' armies left in the world.


Finally, the timing of this punitive campaign suggests at least three political layers, all of which happen to coincide at this particular moment in time. No political or military benefits would accrue if thousands of IDF soldiers were put into the meat grinder of dug-in Hamas bunkers, in combat situations where the defense always has the edge.


All that suggests that the Gaza action will be a long-distance campaign, using air and artillery, along with some armored and special forces strikes, all ending before January 20 -- the inauguration date of the next US president. The president-elect has been conspicuously silent so far, and the Bush White House has actively accused Hamas of sabotaging peace negotiations -- which is obviously true. It looks like a tacit agreement between the US and Israel to allow a period of punitive strikes against the most radical Palestinian die-hards in power. "

destinyisobmasnameandwhoelse

Viva la Revolution!!!

Obama, like Castro, good Harvard grad. Daddy CIA informant. See why Fidel shot CHE?

Five decades and five year limit on the charges. Gee, it doesn't get easier. Plame gets 10. They double up on you after the first five.

Rick Ballard

TC,

RE New Year's Resolutions:

Continue rereading Hayek (followed by Burke).

Continue commentary concerning the state of the Emperor's wardrobe wrt AGW, Peak Oil, subemerging markets, the lack of differentiation betweeen a Keynesian and a Pigovian "solution" to any perceived "problem".

Support Palin as a very feasible alternative to ephemeral black magic.

That should keep me busy enough.

Jane

TC,

We have a roaring blizzard here. I just went to the bank and PO and had to find an alternative route back.

If it hasn't started there yet, it will. I recommend cover with a hot toddy.

As for resolutions - mine is to defy the odds and actually keep one or two.

Porchlight

Congratulations to your BIL, sbw, and all of your family!

Happy New Year to our host and to JOMers worldwide! Thanks for making 2008 bearable. 2009 will be even more fun to watch in your company.

narciso

Don't even joke about that, Destiny, or as they say; No te atrevas, It hits a very sore spot with me. No Fidel didn't go to Harvard, he was a lawyer who didn't practice
law. Ephemeral.black majic, I don't know, if she had no known what was coming, she would have ordered a booster shot from the witch doctor; a round for every one. Lewis is always often distressingly right; what is the point of this, if they don't mean to go all the way. If this is going to Lebanon War 2006 redux, what's the point, if they are going to turn on them; after 'a decent interval'. The whole idea of peak oil and AGW getting any adherence at all, despite the clear factual record; something else that ticks me off.

BobS

Morning All and Happy New Year! Thanks for the Kass link, Jane. Its important to note that Obama does not take questions from Chicago reporters. Not taking questions from your hometown paper has a wow factor thats off that charts.

I wonder if we can get our Illinois politics expert to comment on State Lt. Gov Quinn's comment Sunday that he expoected Blago to be impeached by Jan 12.

BobS

From a map I think that Bill Roggio supplied, it seems that the Iraelis have three armored units on the boarder. While I'd imagine Lewis is correct in one sense that they cannot go "all out", unlike Hezbollah they have Hamas in a box.

Thomas Collins

Boston and western suburbs are in the process of being blanketed, Jane.

I like your theory of New Year's resolutions, Jane. Whatever they are, keep one or two. That is going to be my main resolution. Now I have to find ones I might actually keep (other than increasing my pasta and meat sauce accompanied by red wine intake, which resolution I would have no trouble keeping).

Porchlight

BobS, I didn't know that about Obama not taking questions from Chicago reporters. How does he get away with this stuff?

Jane, thanks for the Kass link - it's excellent. Blago is crazy like a fox and portraying him as a genuine mental case is just supporting the Dem narrative that his behavior was in some way aberrational instead of business as usual in IL.

Rick Ballard

They don't have Hamas in a box at all. Barak, Olmert, Livni/Kadima are playing "bomb the janitor" just like Bubba did. They're spending a lot of money fanning Hamas support among the neanderthal muslim jihadi set in order to present themselves as "tough" to an Israeli electorate which will hopefully not be fooled. If they wanted to effect 'change' in Gaza they would blow up the wastewater facilities, cut off power and allow only water and food to enter. Let the Palis stew in sewage in the dark for two months before their elections and see how Hamas does then.

centralcal

I am not a fan of Christopher Hitchens, but every once in awhile he does some like this and he makes shout "Yes!"

Enlightened

Happy New Years all - I'm with PUK - '08 needs to go away. I would have preferred a jump from '07 direct to '09, since our son was hospitalized on Jan 01 of '08 and our yet went kaput thereafter.

I've been sick for a week with a nasty crappy head and chest cold, hubby just picked it up so looks like we're staying in tonight.

I have no resolutions whatsoever. I just want 2009 to feel better than 2008 - I'll be good with that. Maybe one - get.more.sleep.

In the meantime, I have to admit I am secretly in love with Blago. He is my new, all-time favorite, flip-you-the-bird, I Just Shit On Y'all, arrogant, defiant, I Crap Bigger Than Bambi, moonbat.

I only wish I could have been at yesterday's presser. I think the Dems collectively soiled their Huggies enmasse and he just stood there with a big shit-eating grin.

2009 Here We Come!

MayBee

Happy New Year, friends!
A prediction for the coming year: Madrid, Montreal, CIA, Peace corp, lucifer.

Porter

BobS-

If Pat Quinn has the inside skinny on what the Ill. legislature has planned, I would be just as shocked as the next person. He was the equivalent of a mushroom in Ill. political circles.

As far as Obama not answering Chicago reporters' questions, in his position, would you?

Besides, with the Burris appointment, Gov. Rod has given the sno-globe a big shake, and Bobby Rush doubled down. Mr. Rush has quite pointedly put Dick Durbin on notice that his seat is at risk.

This thing has legs. And Obama's not going to be able to avoid the Chicago press forever...

Porter

Oh, and I'm no expert, I just have very biased and well-seasoned opinions.

(No typos here, by the way.)

narciso

Sadly that's what I've suspected, Rich, but that seemly like a stupid and probably immoral strategy. It's likely to bring Hezbollah into the mix, give AQ a little breathing room; for what posibly a few more seats in the Knesset. It's akin with the Battle of first Fallujah back in the Spring of 2004, where we went full bore until mostly fabricated media outrage forced us to capitulate. We withdrew, we put in a crew of former Baathists, the Salafis ran the place for six monthes, then we had to fight the operation all over again. The whole sad tale is recounted by Bing West in No Further Glory.

BobS

I meant to say more of a geographical box. And if they are effectively destroying tunnels - one report has 12o of the 200 being taken out - this makes the map more of a problem for Hamas.

Obama's silence on the issue is interesting and maybe the Hamas rockets were one of those tests that Joe Biden was telling us about. I've heard few of those tired old calls for "restraint" and those reminders to the Israelis to "always keep in mind the path to peace".

With the Iranians up to their old tricks yesterday in attacking the embassies of Jordan and Saudi Arabia (LUN), other middle east countries might be more concerned with Iran they they hate Jews.

Gateway Pundit also is posting that the Iranians have stormed the British consolate in Tehran

narciso

Maybee, do we get the new decoder rings for that, or are they on order.

Topsecretk9

A prediction for the coming year: Madrid, Montreal, CIA, Peace corp, lucifer.

You forgot Foley and the 5 year 501 informant law.

hrtshpdbox

I predict that Fitz asks for 90 additional days to file indictments in the Blago case.

Wow, it just happened, I'm good!

Danube of Thought

Happy New Year. Sixty-eight and sunny here.

centralcal

Erik Erikson at Redstate has this interesting info:

Narcissist's Narcissist

Illinois politics is Reality T.V. like none other. Can't wait for the next episode!!!

MayBee

Maybee, do we get the new decoder rings for that, or are they on order.

narciso- I'm afraid they are perpetually on order.

clarice

I've got boeuf bourguignonne bubbling away in the kitchen and a fresh loaf of bread just out of the oven. I'm prepared to settle in for a four day weekend and while it was windy and rainy for a while it's now clear and sunny.
Probably a harbinger meaning Steyn's going to come knocking on my door any minute. (Braised meats are what men really want you know.)

Steve Gilbert links Burris to the unions and mafia:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/blago-pick-tied-to-unions-and-mafia

An Israeli to whom I'm not related but who's been documenting the ancestral village (stop No 1 on Operation Reinhardt,if you must know--sent me this:http://sderot.aish.com/SderotPetitions/15Seconds.php)

centralcal

I saw somewhere this morning that Burris was appointed to his first government job by another Illinois governor who ended up in jail.

Looks like maybe he will be ending his career the way he began it.

Jane

Uh Clarice, I served boeuf bourguignonne for Christmas Eve and I'm pretty sure Mark (we are on a first name basis) is still full to the brim.

Rick Ballard

"seemly like a stupid and probably immoral strategy"

Well, Kadima is a lefty coalition - it looks like a decent fit to me.

I'd rewind back to Powell's reaction to the 'Highway of Death' nonsense in GWI rather than Fallujah I. That's where he really earned the "hand wringing spineless media suckup" tag and that's where the real immorality of not forcing an unconditional surrender by ME scum became retrospectively apparent. The current chapter of Dilettantes at War hasn't dipped to that point as yet.

MayBee

Every year I make a resolution to not try to improve myself in any way.

Porter

Clarice-

Mr. Gilbert's piece should've started this way:

The (name of watchdog org. here) recently submitted a report tying (insert Ill. politician here) to illicit union activities and having potential mob ties.

Jesse White (Sec. of State) isn't even that clean.

clarice

cc, At the moment, I think Burris is just fantastic..(Hush your mouth)..
Jane--words fail me at your underhanded scheming and tactics..*flounce*

centralcal

From Matthew Franck at NRO

And here's a new word for 2009: Blagojevism (pronounced Bluh-GOY-avism). Definition: the last public wound inflicted on one's enemies, by shameless exploitation of their vulnerabilities, while one's own career is on the bobsled to oblivion.

However, I have one quibble - it is my great hope that it is NOT the last public wound inflicted. Go, Blago, Go!

centralcal

Clarice: you know Jane is going to lord Mark Steyn over you every chance she gets, unless you counter with a win of your own.

Maybe Dick Cheney would enjoy boeuf bourguignone and home baked bread - he's kinda in your neighborhood and all.

clarice

cc, I know. I know. I'm working on something..And I did have Hit and Soylent to dinner..That has to count for something in the all-American hostess contest..

centralcal

That has to count for something . . .

Well, it sure made the rest of us very envious!

BobS

What does this mean? Are the two Illinois pols who resigned talking to Fitz? Has Fitz discovered more? Or is he stalling because he arrested Blago too soon? Nonetheless, it gives Obama the chance to fire Fitz. Thats what Holder is for. He's the ultimate Dem hack. Hacks for either party shouldn't be AGs

JM Hanes

"Lewis is always often distressingly right; what is the point of this, if they don't mean to go all the way."

As Clarice describes it, Lewis' point about a citizen army, and other potentially far more dangerous fronts, pretty well captures the downside of an all out war. The inevitable Israeli retreats strike me as strategic, as do their periodic strikes. It helps to clean out the vipers' nest from time to time, and I suspect they are ready and waiting to do so any time Hamas commits an undeniably serious provocation.

While the world may tut tut about disproportionate responses, the fact that Hamas clearly precipitates such attacks doesn't really escape anyone's attention, which is why the "disapproval" remains rhetorical. It allows the U.S. to justify its continuing support of Israel within the international community, which, IMO, is a powerful disincentive to anything other than covert, if not really secret, support for terrorist factions both in Gaza and elsewhere -- along with buttering Egyptian bread, of course, and cultivating the Jordanian king. After the Powell debacle, our relationship with Turkey is begging for serious attention.

The only permanent solution would be to wipe Hamas from the face of the earth -- along with the rest of Gaza -- an act which almost certainly would have devastating, real world, consequences. So the Israelis confine themselves to beheading the beast as best they can, as often as circumstances allow, with the only tool of containment at their disposal.

The infamous cycle of violence is really an odd form of status quo which has, in fact, been largely sustainable to date. Hamas always jumps the gun as ceasefires come to an end, while the Israelis' "disproportionate" response provides the necessary incentive for the successive ceasefire. When I think about the targets of Hamas rockets, I even wonder if such attacks aren't mostly a face saving show of force in between the ceasefires they really prefer. In looking at Israeli targets this time around, I think the Palestinian's predictable parade of "innocent" victims may actually have worked to Israel's advantage by distracting attention from the destruction of the Egyptian tunnels. That alone may do more to alter the current equation than the usual, and partial, elimination of fungible leadership.

Freed of sanctions, Saddam Hussein would quickly have upset the bizarre existing balance, as the newly explicit Iranian aggressiveness comes ever closer to doing. Eliminating the Iraqi threat has, and will have, clear strategic benefits for Israel and the U.S. -- both as an Israeli ally and in its own right. A conflagration over Israel would have an enormous impact on U.S. interests in the Middle East, even if we were not ultimately committed to her defense.

Hillary appears to understand this, and I can only pray that she's not the only one in the new administration who does. The Susan Rice contingent seems utterly clueless on that score, among notable others. Consolidating our gains in Iraq will be critically important in what is essentially a breathing space before the looming confrontation with Iran. Reversing the flow of influence between Iraq and Iran is really the only new tool in the otherwise useless arsenal of international suasion, and one hopes, with little confidence, that the Obama administration can make similar progress toward that end in Afghanistan.

Porchlight

Totally OT for JOM cooks - does anyone have a good white bean dip recipe? Olive oil, garlic, rosemary - in that vein? I know there are a zillion on the web but I'd like one that's tried and tested. I've got some perfectly cooked heirloom yellow eye beans and I don't want them to go to waste.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Happy New Year to all.

One Resolution: to survive.

One Prediction: January 20th is going to suck.

Neo
Obama could figure in the upcoming fraud trial of Norman Hsu, the disgraced Democratic fundraiser who was charged last year with operating a $60 million pyramid scheme
Extraneus

Just heard Walter Williams mention that Mark Steyn is filling in for Rush tomorrow. But I'm sure you ladies already knew that...

PeterUK

A leap second is added at 4:29:60 AM local Kabul time, on Jan 1, 2009.
Please note that the clock above will not show this extra second.Don't miss it folks.

Porchlight

One Prediction: January 20th is going to suck.

Yeah. I'm considering going entirely media-free that day, except for JOM of course.

Enlightened

"One Prediction: January 20th is going to suck."

But January 25th and 31st will be Da Bomb - me and my mother's B-Days respectively!

No Bambi parades are gonna rain on my day! (Mom voted for PEBO, so maybe a little drizzle that day ;o])

clarice

Very well said, JMH.

Jane

And I did have Hit and Soylent to dinner..That has to count for something in the all-American hostess contest..

Trust me Clarice, you win that competition hands down. I'm not even a contestant.

I, however won the Mark Steyn competition back on November 10th and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.

Dick Cheney - heh!

clarice

Interesting,neo..

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Via Byron York:

Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has asked a court to give him a 90-day extension of the time allowed to secure an indictment against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. In a new filing, Fitzgerald reveals that he intercepted "thousands" of phone calls between late October and early December. He also says that "multiple witnesses have come forward in recent weeks to discuss their knowledge of criminal activity in relation to the ongoing investigation," and that there are "multiple defendants and potential defendants." Fitzgerald adds there are other reasons for his request, but says they must remain sealed. Also says that the overall Blago investigation began in "approximately 2003." If the court agrees, Fitzgerald will have until April 7 to indict.
clarice

*sob*

Neo

Now this is weird ..

Around midnight Pacific time last night, 30GB Zunes began restarting and locking up at their boot screens. Reports have swamped official forums and fan sites, and Microsoft has yet to officially comment on the reason for this pre-New-Year's Zune apocalypse.

Topsecretk9

Sounds like Fitz doesn't have a case.

clarice

Porchlight--I make something a bit similar with braised lamb shanks..I never made this recipe, but it looks like what you want:


Rosemary-Lemon White Bean Dip
Yield 2 cups

Time 10 minutes using precooked or canned beans

Mark Bittman

Ingredients
2 cups cooked white beans, like cannelini, drained but moist1 to 3 cloves garlic, peeledSalt and freshly ground black pepper to taste1/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil2 teaspoons minced fresh rosemaryGrated rind of 2 lemonsMethod
1. Put the beans in the container of a food processor with 1 clove of garlic and a healthy pinch of salt. Turn the machine on, and add the 1/4 cup olive oil in a steady stream through the feed tube; process until the mixture is smooth. Taste, and add more garlic if you like; then, puree the mixture again.
2. Place the mixture in a bowl, and use a wooden spoon to beat in the rosemary, lemon zest and the remaining tablespoon of olive oil. Taste, and add more salt and pepper as needed. Use immediately, or refrigerate for as long as 3 days.
Source: The New York Times

clarice

That's what it looks like to me, ts--It'll just take a little more creativity--cause the foul talking tapes of his aides pretending to be Beavis and Butthead isn't terribly persuasive.

Maybe the hospital matter will work if the Statute of Limitations hasn't passed on it.

Porchlight

Thanks, Clarice, that's exactly what I'm looking for! I knew you'd have something great for me.

Barney Frank

Good stuff at 1:57, JMH.
Brings to mind two questions.

1. Who here has any confidence Obama will take the threat of an Iranian EMP strike at us seriously enough to prevent it?

2. When was the last time an Arab army was victorious in a war against a foreign power?
Not a small scale terrorist attack or guerilla harrassment or surviving a war by hunkering down in a bunker and then declaring victory when their adversary gets tired of killing them. And not a Kurdish army or a Persian one.

Rick Ballard

"Sounds like Fitz doesn't have a case."

Geez, Tops, of course he has a case. Interview notes and 502s are being generated reviewed for discrepancies 24 hours a day. Just wait 'til he convenes a grand jury - you'll see perjury charges coming down like rain when he applies Fitzlaw to poor grammar.

I'd like to take a moment to announce my support for the Burris appointment. I've reviewed what I could find of his record and note that he has never diverted funds intended for the benefit of Chicago children to political purposes, has no long ties or associations with terrorists, racists and/or felons and has never been captured on video or audio tape actually accepting a bribe. Additionally, no bribe money has ever been discovered in his freezer.

For these reasons, he is quite obviously a better man than the one to be replaced and deserving of the support of everyone who wishes to prevent the Democrats from lynching someone solely on the basis of a very limited contact with a sitting governor who happens to have drawn the attention of an overzealous prosecutor noted for his ethical lapses.

PD

Wow, it's sure getting all het up here, what with the escalating conflagration between clarice and Jane. I hope the rest of us can avoid collateral immolation.

PD

Neo, maybe that's a Zune equivalent of a BSOD (a 3ZOD?)

Porter

TSKIX-

My take is this. There are sooo many people on tape offering this for that, that those same people are trying to stay in front of the indictment train as opposed to getting dragged under it. Mr. Fitzgerald is probably buried with "helpful" CYAers.

He has a case alright, just a matter of settin' 'em up, and knockin' 'em down. My tip-off you ask? Hiring practices going back to 2003, veritable who's who in Illinois machinations.

BobS

Its becoming clear that there's very strong correlation of attacks on the west via some Islamic web sites.

LUN

Theye are in the form of protests (here) and attacks - in Denmark and Tehran.

Thus far that is. I wonder if Hezbollah will make a move, too, to make Israel fight on two fronts.

clarice

PD, This feud ain't endin' anytime soon.

Rick

I find it hard to keep a straight face when ethically challenged Reid draws his line in the moral sand..Guy looks like a piano player in a bad brothel and his land deals and coziness with the casino crowd never got the close attention they deserved.

centralcal

Yep, PD, that's what we're all hoping.

clarice

No Ireland's Environment Minister calls global warn=ming a con..and further proof that it is--the gormless Church of England is investing pots of money with Gore:
"Church of England puts its faith in Al Gore's investment arm
Tuesday, 30th December 2008. 9:00am

By: George Conger.

The Church of England’s Church Commissioners have gone green, investing £150 million with former US Vice-President Al Gore’s environmentally minded investment firm, Generation Investment Management.

On Nov 18 the First Church Estates Commissioner, Andreas Whittam Smith reported that in late September the Commissioners had placed the funds with Gore’s boutique management firm which follows an “environmentally sustainable global equities mandate.” Funding for the investment came from “cash and Treasury bills”, he said, and not from the sale of UK equities as initially planned.

In Oct 2007 Mr Gore was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in raising awareness of the potential threats from climate change. Generation Investment Management was founded in 2004 by Mr Gore and David Blood, former head of Goldman Sachs Asset Management, and had almost £5 billion under management before the market collapse."


JM Hanes

Clarice:

Inquiring mimds want to know what Reid's asking price is these days.

Enlightened

I'm OK with immolating in some of Clarice's boeuf bourguignonne....but apparently Mr. Steyn better watch his step..

clarice

Exactly,jmh.

JM Hanes

Al Gore is sort of like a gentile version of Bernie Madoff, isn't he? He's the global warming rockstar with true believers clamoring for access and throwing money at his investment schemes.

section9

Questions for narciso:

1. Is it your assertion that Barack Obama's Dads was a CIA asset who was sprung from the Brits by the Agency and got a "Get Out of Jail Free" Card and a free Pass from the Dulles Brothers to come to the U.S. for some free time?

2. Barack's moms: while in Indonesia: was she married to a covert member of the PKI? What happened to Soetero? The man was a Muslim, after all, and attended a mosque. One would have to assume on the surface that he would have been a declared supporter of Sukarno. Did he survive the Generals' Putsch?

3. Dunham herself: Useful Idiot or Valerie Plame Before Her Time? Inquiring Minds want to know how Barack Obama just popped up out of nowhere, along with the full court press media campaign that produced him.

Thanks for the Change We Can Believe In....


clarice

Very astute observation,jmh.Everytime I even see a pic of Gore, "There's trouble right here in River city" springs to mind.........

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Can someone tell me why sleazebag Bud McFarland has been resurrected and is now giving "his insights" on Israel/Gaza/Iran, et al?

Rick Ballard

JMH,

The key phrase in that article was "almost £5 billion under management before the market collapse." It also applies to Soros and his funds and his buddy Rogers and his funds. The hit that alt energy scams are taking is rather more severe than the general market downturn.

Here is another entertaining piece concerning the widening ripples from Madoff. As the scam unwinds and restitution of funds is sought from individuals who cashed in over the past six years we're going to see some interesting names pop up. How many pols got a little "favored" treatment from Madoff and stashed dough in the Caymans? How much tax fraud is going to be uncovered through bankruptcy court access to Madoff client's statements?

section9

As to the Izzies:

I have absolutely no confidence in the ability of this Israeli Government to fight and win this war. As long as an Olmert-led Kadima Government is in power, Israel is in peril.

The parallels with 2006 are frightening. If the Israelis agree to a ceasefire without victory, they will find a way to blame the Americans for their incompetence, the same way they tried to blame Rice in 2006. Unless and until the IDF is let loose to wage war as the U.S. Army and Marines did at Second Fallujah, I am withholding judgement until I see results.

I've read too many conservative apologists for Israeli incompetence to give the Israelis the benefit of the doubt.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

They said on Fox and Friends earlier this morning that Kevin Bacon/Kyra Sedgewick lost everything to Madoff except what was in their respective checking accounts and the property they own. Supposedly wiped out (unconfirmed).

8765

Not sorry about those contracts, but have fun anyway - with other people. 2009 should be less money!!

clarice

Rick, my husband read an article that said lots of folks in other countries were taken by madoff but never reported the loss because they violated their own countries' ruls on currency transfers in making the investments in the first place.


Except for the terminally stupid, I am of a mind to believe that the big investors thought Madoff was running a scam--just not one on his own investors.

MayBee

So the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon extends into the financial world as well.

BobS

S9:

Rice and Bush aren't out there with the "restraint" and "path to peace" crap this time. And no one from the Obama admin is either. Sure the French lobbied for a ceasefire, but that was brushed aside. The Iranians are leading the charge this time and they stand alone, save for the Syrians. Oh, yes. And the BBC and Rueters, too. How could I have ever forgotten

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Apparently the Bacons did not invest directly with Madoff. They did not even know that their money had been placed with him by their long time investment person, someone they had a long term relationship with and trusted.

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