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January 20, 2009

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jean

I think the Kennedy clan is not going to be as happy as they thought.That Camelot and first royalty stuff has just found a new leader.

MayBee

I thought Obama delivered a fine speech, though I doubt that it will be long remembered.

Expectations were huge, and the speech was just ok. The nation now must turn its hopeful eyes to Michelle Obama's ball gown.

bad

When We the People have remained faithful to the ideals of our forbearers, and true to our founding documents.

Maybe he will follow the constitution.

Fox commentator noticed the poor literary value of his speech wasn't up to the standards of previous efforts for a man who has a literary bent.

bgates

Mike - I'm sure he'll have Korea unified and expressing gratitude for his wise leadership by week's end.

(By "he", I mean Kim Jong Il.)

PD

...and true to our founding documents.

... which he considers flawed.

Not confidence-inspiring.

bad

I think the Kennedy clan is not going to be as happy as they thought.That Camelot and first royalty stuff has just found a new leader.

The Kennedys should be thrilled. Obama has lowered the bar for POTUS. Caroline is similarly qualified.

section9

Oh thanks narciso, I was wondering where you had gone to.

No, I was mystified by the continued assault by the right on Rice. The sexuality thing was never actually raised by our side, it was constantly raised by the Left-a variation of this happened to Sarah when the Left tried to peddle bogus rumors about the Governor having an affair.

The disappointment with Rice stemmed from an internal Republican Civil War that went on, imho, carried on by people who enthusiastically backed Rumsfeld early on and spent their time attacking Rice when they should have been spending all their energy on the Democrats. My opinion? Rice was handed a sh*t sandwich and did the best she could with what she had.

An attack on the Iranians or the North Koreans would have required a political consensus in Washington that wasn't there. This gave our enemies in these countries temporary freedom of action. Rice understood this, and basically held the line to try to forge some sort of consensus. Thankfully, it was up to Petraeus to actually save the day. People like Tammy Bruce or Michael Ledeen did not get this, or did and attacked Rice anyway.

I admire Rice for having tended to our alliance with the Australians and the new alliance with the Indians. People in Washington don't get this. Japan policy needs tending to because of the needless obsession by State over North Korea, a fine bit of misdirection by the Chicoms designed to cause disruption between us and Japan.

Rice will be remembered better than her critics on both sides give her credit, or criticism, for.

bad

Michell's dress is bunched over her hips and under her stomach. The fabric must have given way as she sat.

jean

come on bling at a daytime formal event.Some one send the lady Emily Post

PD

For all my reservation about the man we have elected to the Presidency, I am still heartened by the idea that in this country we have had 40+ peaceful transitions of power. Considering the history of the world, this is a rare and special thing to be cherished.

Ralph L

She's got huge thighs. CSPAN is showing some of the trash on the mall. I don't mean people.

lonetown

It sounded like Republican boilerplate to me, at least toward the end with the patriotism, hard work, and city onj the hill stuff.

All I can say is, where were you when we needed you?

MayBee

Well, what Roberts had said was surely not what Obama was expecting.

Obama jumped in too early, and it threw Roberts off. Our country will survive the bungling of the oath, even if it was done with one hand on Lincoln's bible.

Ralph L

Juan Williams is about to cry.

bad

Maybee, the bow under the bodice was added between church and the inaugural. The green gloves were an interesting choice. Maybe it's just my TV color.

kim

Oh, Boy! I can't read this page or my previous comment but I just found 4,474 old email messages in a neglected account, some of them no doubt life changing. Can you hear me, Major Tom?
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peter

Hi, everyone. On this momentous occasion, my immune system seems to have given up to the flu. Misery index, indeed. I thought the speech was okay, not as bad as Rush makes it out to be, but not great. I am old enough to remember the Kennedy inauguration. My mom, who loved JFK, was very excited that day. Within a couple of years, she realized he was a lousy President. JOM has been keeping me sane these past few weeks. I think the worst is over now that Barack actually has to do something, the bloom will fall off the rose.

kiwinews

It's not your TV, I was wondering myself at the choice of booger green gloves and shoes with that shade of dress and skin tone. The cocktail dress didn't seem to fit right either. I hope she was wearing thermal underwear under it.

clarice

It has taken almost all First Ladies a while to catch on to ceremonial dress--how is must be carefully edited, requires certain sturdy fabrics and care taken to how it looks when climbing stairs, sitting etc.

Hillary's inaugural garb was atrocious.


Laura's suit for her first visit to the WH was by a local designer who didn't understand.
Laura quickly caught on.

kim

It's really bizarre; once I post I can read my comment and the current page, but once I move away I can only get back to the first page of each thread. It's not hope and change, it's hange and choke. Not hopey changey, but hangy chokey.

I agree the open hand/clenched fist metaphor was effective and memorable. Let's hope it's also prescient. And that those jokers don't hide a buzzer in their palms.
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kim

Ack, ack, choke, coff. Please, ease up, Big Man. Just a joke. And please, uncurl that fist or I'm gonna have a big mirth attack whether I can help it or not.
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Barney Frank

Lowery held it together pretty well, but his old habits of hate leaked through at the end. Can't teach an old dog new tricks, even in the hour of triumph, on the steps of the capitol with the whole world hanging on his lips, he couldn't accept we have overcome and be gracious in victory.

Quick anecdote.
My wife and I were in Mendocino (New Age, marxist vortex) looking at some timberland for sale nearby last Friday.
At dinner, this band of banjo pickin', crudescent, old, hippy, folk singers were tuning up to start a set at 7:00PM. The lead picker who was a lanky, long grey haired, linen togged, old crone, started caterwauling about
"trouble down in Florida, trouble in New Orleans. One more rigged election, blah, blah ,blah..."
I told my wife that even days before they crown their king they're still whining about what a dark and crooked country it is.
Was gonna throw my shoe at her but she got tuned and sat down before I had a clear shot.
Haven't eaten so fast in a long time. Made it out by 6:59.

Mike Huggins

bgates - "I'm sure he'll have Korea unified and expressing gratitude for his wise leadership by week's end.

(By "he", I mean Kim Jong Il.)

All Hail the Glorious and Dear Leader!

Ralph L

Who's the idiot with the laurel wreath around his neck? Corzine?

Rick Ballard

"The fabric must have given way as she sat."

Well, yeah. Do you know how hard it is to weave structural steel? Considering the gravity stress alone, my hats off to the mill that fabricated the ensemble. It was probably Thyssen or Krupp - they have a technological edge at the moment.

hit and run

Where's Thomas Collins? I sure could use a liveblog of Fun With Dick & Jane.

Mike Huggins

Oh Gosh, Let's try again with that
"All Hail the Glorious and Dear Leader!
- who is caught up with his own "hopeandchange" fever today.

(I wouldn't doubt that this link to the DPRK Peaceful Invitation doesn't work either, so here's the URL in normal text: http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm. Take it away, Neville...oops, I mean President Barack...

narciso

No, I understand that, Neil Rogers, our local rabble rouser was particularly vicious to her, and his Latin crony(regretably Cuban)
George,was equally bad. Otto Reich, the son of Holocaust survivors was typified as a Nazi. I understand her support for a more aggressive approach on Iraq, including the
provincial reconstruction teams. I know that Iran or North Korea, would really have made Iraq, really look like a cakewalk by comparison. It's more her attitude on the Arab/Israeli conflict, in part due to thr efforts of advisors like David Welch, which painted Israel like the city fathers of Birmingham, back in the days of Bombingham; which are the clear parallel. Plus her insistance on following the Gitmo is a gulag narrative. Still she's a quantum improvement over any choice in the next four years.

Ralph L

Rahm is sitting next to Cindy McCain. Ginsburg on other side of J MacCain.

JM Hanes

Juan Williams is how a lot of people are feeling today, and if Barack Obama can make blacks feel empowered instead of victimized it will be an enormous leap forward. Having seen the changes that began with Martin Luther King, and how far we've come since then, I'm deeply moved by this moment and what it says about our country, myself.

I think Obama said a lot of things that people who elected him wanted to hear, without really stabbing President Bush to do it, the way Feinstein did. It's interesting that no one has commented on her remarks, although I'm not sure that said much about Rev. Warren's invocation. I also think his expression of gratitude and respect for his predecessor struck just the right note. If Obama can, in fact, change the tone of Democrats in Washington, then good on him.

I also have to say that I'm really relieved that it was not John McCain being sworn in today. I think he could ultimately have done more damage than Obama.

centralcal

Since I am at work and only following events intermittantly, I heard there was some kind of snub between Carter and Clinton before the inaugural.

Anyone here have details?

Mike Huggins

DPRK Hope and Change Fever...

" January 19. 2009 Juche 98. DPRK to Mercilessly Punish Aggressors
Pyongyang, January 19 (KCNA) -- The statement issued by a spokesman for the General Staff of the Korean People's Army over the touch-and-go situation prevailing on the Korean Peninsula due to the reckless confrontational and war moves of traitor Lee Myung Bak and the puppet military of south Korea obsessed by the ambition for invasion of the north was a declaration of justice of our revolutionary armed forces and a merciless blow dealt at the provocateurs, says Rodong Sinmun Monday in a signed commentary.

The reckless military provocative racket being kicked up by traitor Lee and the warmongers of the puppet military is a clear revelation of their treacherous policy for confrontation and war, the commentary notes, and goes on:

The danger of a new war on the Korean Peninsula is increasing due to the U.S. imperialist aggression troops' large-scale escalation of operations to the peninsula.
....
Given that the puppet warmongers are desperately seeking a war with the DPRK, it no longer feels any need to show good faith to them. It is the resolute stand and mettle of our revolutionary armed forces to counter the enemy's provocation with stronger and merciless blows.

The Lee group should bear deep in mind that the arms in the hands of the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK are leveled at it.

Should the puppet warmongers ignite a war at any cost, all the service persons and people of the DPRK will give full play to the might of Songun out of their towering hatred for the enemy on behalf of the nation and wipe out the provocateurs at a single stroke and thus remove the root cause of war on this land.

The Lee group had better stop acting rashly, paying heed to our stern warning."

MayBee

Juan Williams is how a lot of people are feeling today, and if Barack Obama can make blacks feel empowered instead of victimized it will be an enormous leap forward.

I agree.
What I fear is a hesitancy to criticize Obama, for fear it will be hurtful to all those who worked toward civil rights.

MayBee

Is that Rahm's wife? I kind of expected him to be married to a knock-out.

MayBee

I wanted Obama to acknowledge the waiters, all lined up and clapping for him.

bad

The coat and bow are gone and a 3/4 length sleeve sweater is added over the sheath.

bgates

I think Obama said a lot of things that people who elected him wanted to hear
It's not Obama's fault. It's those darn supporters!

Juan Williams is how a lot of people are feeling today
Suffused with pride based on shared skin color? Terrific.

if Barack Obama can make blacks feel empowered instead of victimized it will be by cementing a race-based caste system into federal law. "How far we've come" is that it's now possible to attack white people as white people during a presidential inauguration. Look ahead 20 years - as immigration and differential fertility rates turn white people into a minority group, will the demonization and scapegoating be better? Or worse?

C.R.

"Juan Williams is how a lot of people are feeling today, and if Barack Obama can make blacks feel empowered instead of victimized it will be an enormous leap forward."

I disagree. I think that is the soft bigotry of low expectations. What has he done? In whom or what are they placing their hope?


centralcal

You all have to find time to check out Ace's new place today.

It's all about The O.

LUN

JM Hanes

MayBee:

"What I fear is a hesitancy to criticize Obama, for fear it will be hurtful to all those who worked toward civil rights."

I think that uber deference will diminish over time. The kind of passive aggressive attitudes emblematic of those who have long taken quick offense are far less sustainable now -- and I suspect the majority of people know that much of it was manufactured indignation for political purposes in the first place.

It's pretty hard to complain about endemic racism when the most powerful man in the world is the United States' black President. Once Bush has been out of office for 6 months, and comedians can't count on Bush-is-so-dumb for a laugh, I they're going to have to move on to Obama, like it or not.

Porchlight

We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things.

Nice try with the Scripture, O. Unfortunately you have misapplied it (no surprise). This nation has not been childish to date - quite the opposite. If anyone needs to put away childish things it is Obama.

narciso

I sauntered over to David Frum's New Majority site, because I'm a putton for glunishment, it has those exciting voices of Doug Eakin, Michael Powell and David Frum,. . .what I fell asleep there, they inspire too much enthusiasm there. One tiny silver lining to this debacle is that none of these voices wil be in policy making positions, either now or in a future administration; well we can hope on the latter point.

Captain Hate

I'm proud to say that I've missed all of the carp and, from what I've read here and at AoS, don't feel as if my time would've been better spent watching a second of it.

JM Hanes

bgates/C.R.

Y'all may be more comfortable with the politics of victimization, but I believe it's been a big part of the problem. That's just the soft bigotry of low expectations in a different form, as far as I'm concerned.

How far we've come is from a time when black garbage men weren't allowed to come indoors with white garbage men when it rained. If you want to despise the changes that have been wrought in this country since then, so be it. I don't.

narciso

Of course, if one actually cares about policy,
Marty Lederman, one of the most extreme partisans of the anti-interrogation, actual war crimes indictment approach of Bush officials is going to be an Assistant Atty. General; so all our zampolit in the US sttorneys offices scenario seems ever more likely.

boris

a time when black garbage men weren't allowed to come indoors with white garbage men when it rained. If you want to despise the changes that have been wrought in this country since then, so be it

Wham! Out comes the BIG hammer. Fun.

bgates

Spare me the Al Sharpton bullshit, JM, it's possible to disagree with you without being a racist.

Captain Hate

If you want to despise the changes that have been wrought in this country since then, so be it. I don't.

I didn't interpret their comments as saying that.

C.R.

Y'all may be more comfortable with the politics of victimization"

I most certainly am not. We have come a long way. I simply disagree that any credit should be given to anyone such as Obama. Why is it a good sign that so many people have placed (misplaced) their hope in someone who has so few achievements and/or experience to his name merely because he has the right skin tone?
There are plenty of people who have earned that respect.

JM Hanes

"It's not Obama's fault. It's those darn supporters!"

Like a conservative inaugural address would have been politically neutral -- and you'd have had no expectations. I was comparing it to Feinstein's virtual attack on Pres. Bush.

"Suffused with pride based on shared skin color?"

Well, since I thought it was a moment worth celebrating, I don't think that really covers it, but perhaps our African American commenters would like to weigh in.

bgates

Telling that you can't come up with a better rebuttal than that, though. Even if Obama had an interest in black empowerment through something other than scapegoating white people - and his history with Wright should make anyone skeptical of that - it's too much for one person to reverse the four decades of victimization mythology that seems to pervade the black community. (Ooh, I said something is too much for Obama - more racism, right, JM? And I brought up Wright! Break out your Kathleen Parker style guide to see how the cool kids would respond. Maybe you could link to a flag graphic or something.)

clarice

This is the most socially fluid nation in history and I understand Black pride and joy in this day; love that we can rub this in our detractors' faces and inspire even more envy in our European critics.

That does not mean that I'm going to shut up when O does things I don't like.

BTW I was touched at the personal , evident warmth between Obama and Bush as human beings--one leaving an intolerable burden and the other picking it up. Pure class on both sides.

C.R

Captain Hate,

Thank you. My comments were not meant that way. I was attempting to disagree with a point that was put forward. I'm sure bgates can stand up for himself.

boris

It may not be unreasonable to hope or even expect that cognitive dissonance between a black president and victimization culture will resolve constructively for many. Another resolution would be the power of righteousness has brought victory. If the latter let's hope retribution upon the infidels is no worse than sanctimonious scoldings.

Jane

Hi guys,

The speech went 19 minutes and 38 second apparently. I got pissed at the part where he mentioned Concord, Gettysburg and Viet Nam but forgot Iraq.

Actually I heard a lot of pointed jabs, pretty evenly distributed.

Apparently Robert Byrd has had a seizure - or maybe Ted Kennedy. Some sort of weird poetry in that.

bad

I'm ashamed to admit when I heard it was Byrd I thought that he just couldn't handle seeing a half black man as POTUS.

Extraneus

I think all the syrupy self-congratulations over a black man being elected president is strange and un-American, considering the fact that his skin color is the main reason he was elected.

I don't find this something to be proud of, or even a good omen for the future. (Is Juan Williams a commentator or a black commentator? Was Colin Powell a general or a black general? Will this b.s. all end now that Obama was elected?)

I'd have been much prouder if Obama was elected based on the content of his character.

Jane

During the speech Dick kept screaming that he never once mentioned his mother - with all that tribute to the man who abandoned him.

bad

During the speech Dick kept screaming that he never once mentioned his mother - with all that tribute to the man who abandoned him.

Or the grandparents who raised him...

JM Hanes

I didn't accuse anyone of being a racist. When bgates dismisses progress as, "'How far we've come' is that it's now possible to attack white people as white people during a presidential inauguration." and boris discounts one of the first, modest, objectives of the nascent civil rights movement as a rhetorical big hammer, I think they are trivializing the seismic changes that have occurred in this country. Perhaps disdain would have been a more appropriate word than despise.

I wasn't talking about Obama's personal achievement I was talking about American achievements, and the fact that a black man could, in fact, become President. Why on earth wouldn't someone like Rev. Lowery celebrate that moment? He was already Barack Obama's age when the Voting Rights Act finally allowed the federal government to intervene in states where black voters had been systematically, and brutally disenfranchised. All of 2% were registered to vote in Mississippi which was half black, for example. That too was simply "based on shared skin color."

Maybe it's because I've seen the changes I'm talking about. I'm a whole lot younger than Lowery, and I'm amazed at how far we've come since I was a teenager in the south. Symbols are important. We pledge allegiance to a symbol, for Heaven's sake. If Obama inspires a generation to make something of their lives, so much the better.

MayBee

Current line (via Judy Miller and Chuck Schumer):
Obama didn't make a brilliant speech on purpose.

(hhm. should I wonder about Miller and Schumer being so simpatico?)

JM Hanes

"Ooh, I said something is too much for Obama - more racism, right, JM?"

Oh please. Who's playing the victim now?

JM Hanes

Brit Hume picked out this line as something he thought might encourage conservatives:

[I]t has been the risk-takers, the doers, the makers of things - some celebrated but more often men and women obscure in their labor, who have carried us up the long, rugged path towards prosperity and freedom.
It makes an interesting contrast, however, to this graph, via Instapundit.

Soylent Red

If Obama inspires a generation to make something of their lives, so much the better.

That's a big "if". And I don't see it happening. Here's why...

Think of every black person who was interviewed in the election cycle and what they thought Obama was going to do as President. The "paying the rent, filling my gas tank" predictions aside, there was a real and palpable sense that American blacks saw the election of Obama as a means rather than an end.

A means to what? I think it's obvious that there is an undercurrent of rage over real and perceived slights against blacks that Obama is expected to address. I might be hearing what I want to, but it seems to me that blacks are looking at "getting theirs".

What that means in terms of policy I don't know, but when you focus that expectation on a man who has spent his entire life trying to prove how Black Panther he is, I don't foresee a lot of racial harmony coming as a response.

I predict the sense of entitlement will grow, and if thwarted, will be blamed wholly on Republicans. I further predict the backlash among non-blacks, and those who do not share the sense of entitlement will be quashed with cries of "Racism!"

I hope I'm wrong.

JM Hanes

Actually, the garbage men incident wasn't at the beginning of the Civil Rights movement, which was how I remembered it. Looking back at the date, in the link I posted, that kind of thing was happening years after the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act were passed.

scott

"Its official, Jesus has left Chicago"

alright! tres hombres, made my day with that one porchlight!

he should be down your way shortly :)

Captain Hate

Btw, when Lowery's doggerel posing as a benediction came up with "When the Yellow can be mellow", if I'm East Asian and hear that I seriously wonder WTF!

Porchlight

Thanks, scott, I was wondering if anyone else would get it. :)

JM Hanes

Soylent:

Yes, I do realize that it's an "if." It just seems like a positive if to me. My daughter has friends who work in New York City schools, and they say the effect on teenage black students has been transformative. Will that last? Who knows? Is it encouraging? I think so. Black families here have gathered to watch every minute of the inaugural events on the tube together. Is that a meaningless blip? I don't think so. Is it a bad thing? I don't think so. The idea that they don't have any really legitimate reason to be joyful, just escapes me. I think this happens to be a significant day too, regardless of what I think of Obama himself, and I'm happy to share in the joy, if only for moment.

MayBee

. My daughter has friends who work in New York City schools, and they say the effect on teenage black students has been transformative. Will that last? Who knows? Is it encouraging? I think so.

I find it both encouraging and distressing.
*Why* is this what it takes to transform?
A woman has not yet been President, nor an Asian, nor a Jewish person. Yet we manage to relate to the nation, not just the person in charge.
What has been my incentive to do well, if women can't be chosen to be President?

I'm still very happy for the people who have seen so much and are happy today.

I have very mixed emotions, but part of that is that it was never *my* belief that a black person couldn't be elected President in this country.

bad

Agreed Maybee. I'm very disheartened by the lack of totally bald people to obtain the office of POTUS.

JM Hanes

MayBee:

Different strokes for different folks, I guess, which is to say I don't entirely know. I was pretty thrilled when Geraldine Ferraro ran for Vice President, which I saw as a real first at the time, although I didn't vote for her. I wasn't thrilled when Nancy Pelosi became Speaker of the House, and found the expectation in many quarters that women would see that as a big step forward really annoying.

That reviewing stand is all kinds of ugly! You'd think that Axelrod could have rustled up some columns or something.

Jane

I find it both encouraging and distressing.
*Why* is this what it takes to transform?

Why not?

I mentioned 4 things today that I want O to accomplish and one was encouraging blacks to strive for more intact families. If he can change the current culture, that's a good thing. AA hasn't done it - (and FTR ending AA was another accomplishment I foisted on him.) If he did accomplish that I think the bonuses would be far reaching.

I too have a friend who teaches in an inner city Queens school. Her kids earned all sorts of money to actually go to Washington, and like JMH said, my friend said it was the biggest transformation she has ever seen in her teaching career. A good role model goes a long way.

bad

I was hoping the reviewing stand would be warmer. Michelle is not dressed approptiatly for the cold. Maybe there are space heaters or something at her feet.

Stephanie

Did Michelle borrow the curtains from Tara for that gold brocade coat and dress...

Gold Brocade? I can't imagine worse imagery that a relative of someone with the name Hussein in gold brocade.

Ralph L

They're starting the parade awfully late.

boris

they are trivializing the seismic changes that have occurred ,,,

No "they" aren't.

What's trivial is the idea that NOW we have been saved by zero black and white garbage men can come in out of the rain together at last.

centralcal

Now, now, now . . . Michelle's dress, sweater, coat combo are getting rave reviews all over the liberal media universe!! So sunny and cheerful, yadda, yadda, yadda.

The dress has increased my hopes for a truly interesting ball gown tonight.

glasater

I think all the syrupy self-congratulations over a black man being elected president is strange and un-American, considering the fact that his skin color is the main reason he was elected

The thing that sticks in my mind is that when OJ was acquitted--almost the whole of the black community stood up and cheered. I've never quite gotten over that one.

glasater


clarice

Soylent:"I predict the sense of entitlement will grow, and if thwarted, will be blamed wholly on Republicans. I further predict the backlash among non-blacks, and those who do not share the sense of entitlement will be quashed with cries of "Racism!"

If so , they will be quite astonished. SCOTUS has just taken a voting rights act challenge and I predict the Ct, noting the election of a Black president will say the impetus for the Act is now met, and states can and should be allowed to select their own election methods.
Watch.

JM Hanes

"What's trivial is the idea that NOW we have been saved by zero black and white garbage men can come in out of the rain together at last"

Which has virtually nothing to do with the idea I expressed.

MayBee

I find it both encouraging and distressing.
*Why* is this what it takes to transform?

Why not?

Because I thought we were one nation made of many races and religions. We are, as clarice said, a historically socially fluid nation. Our country provides enormous opportunity for all. Theoretically, it shouldn't take someone who looks like we do to be our role model.
If that is what it truly takes, we need to admit that.

And yes, if Obama is successful in bringing about a transformation I will be happy.

boris

What? Are you saying more was read into your comment than you intended? Gosh, that hardly ever happens here.

boris

(to JMH)

JM Hanes

boris:

No, I was saying you completely mischaracterized my comment.

boris

you completely mischaracterized my comment

And your characterization of mine was accurate?

boris

Besides to be fussy about it, your comment was denied and a different idea was mocked.

PaulL

PaulL

What else is happening on this news day?

Stephanie

Did O ditch Michelle in the middle of the street when the SS detail had him hustle into the car? I'm not watching, just surfing around and it is being noted that he just bolted and left her out there in a very ungentlemanly fashion...

PaulL

The italics started because of the slash mark going after the i instead of before it.

MayBee

The cutest part of the parade was the beaming Sasha inside the limo, waving excitedly.

The italics won't go away until we get a new page.

clarice

I'm not seeing any italics at all..Is this new typhus pad great or what?

Jane

Because I thought we were one nation made of many races and religions.

Well we are altho I'm not sure what that has to do with it.

If that is what it truly takes, we need to admit that.

I'm not sure what that will help. Seems to me it's a cultural issue - pushed forward by people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. I don't care if Obama changes it without announcing it.

Anyway, I hope he has that impact.

Jane

it's all italics all the time

Did TM offer an explanation at any point?

clarice

Why aren't I seeing the italics? In Jane's post at 5:49 I see the quoted material in italics and the rest in regular print. Her post after that is all in regular type on my computer.

bad

I don't see italics when it is a problem for others. This page looks fine to me.

MayBee

I'm not sure what that will help. Seems to me it's a cultural issue - pushed forward by people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. I don't care if Obama changes it without announcing it.

I'll be happy if it changes.
I'm distressed that it came to this point, where it takes an Obama to change it (announcing it or not).
Obama came from our society. He obviously didn't buy into the excuse that there was no role model out there for him to follow.
But, I'll be happy if his success does motivate others.

clarice

Do you suppose it's mass hysteria, bad...

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