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January 22, 2009

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peter

suck it up. Good, sound advice, Tom. We go through the Carter years. It was the era of slow cars and long guitar solos.

Danube of Thought

Mr. Obama's war in Afghanistan is about to become a quagmire.

bgates

DON’T apologize to foreigners and say things to them like, “I didn’t vote for Obama,
How about, "**** you, you foreign ****, I didn't vote for that ****, and I don't give a **** what people from your **** little country think about the greatest nation on earth."

Extraneus

Both men love America and want what’s best for her. End of story.

End of story? Not quite.

First of all, there's very little evidence that the statement is in fact true, and quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.

Who roots against their own country in a war, and agitates for their own country's defeat, even at the cost of the deaths of our own soldiers and innocent civilians? And for what purpose, to gain power? Have Republicans ever done such things?

At any rate, it isn't Republicans who need this lecture, and Andy Levy can kiss my ass.

clarice

From The Corner:

"Tough But Fair [Byron York]

In 2001, during the confirmation of John Ashcroft to be attorney general, Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee forced a one-week delay in the committee's vote on Ashcroft, saying there had not been enough time to answer all the questions about the nomination. On January 24, 2001, the Washington Post reported the story under the following headline:

Vote On Ashcroft Is Delayed A Week; Democrats Cite Need for More Review

Yesterday, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee did precisely the same thing for the nomination of Eric Holder to be attorney general. Today, the Washington Post is reporting the story under the following headline:

Republicans Obstruct Holder's Path to Justice Department"

centralcal

Okay, sucking it up. But, IF Obama was really MY President, he would immediately order the bombing of Typepad headquarters, which I am sure has been taken over by Hamas or somebody equally evil.

clarice

I agree, cc.

In case I do something rash and am caught at it, I'd appreciate it if you guys would start drafting a clemency petition on my behalf. I was, as you know, teetering on the edge of sanity and TP pushed me over the edge..

Danube of Thought

Anybody know how we ordinary citizens can vent to Typepad?

narciso

You know one of the reason I post here, is because Blogger/Google swallowed up most on my other logins and passwords, that I had used before. Any particular details you want on your clemency petition, Clarice?

clarice

I wish I knew. As it is I am strpping on my ammo and heading over there.

Amused bystander

DoT: Perhaps you could claim that Typepad caused you to make an error in your taxes?

Just a thought?

glasater

I believe that in order to vent to Typepad--one has to be a customer and to have a "ticket":-)

It is my understanding that JMH is a customer of Typepad and in her inimitable way has informed them of their misdeeds.

clarice

How generally mild mannered and non-violent I am , narciso, and how I was obviously pushed to this drastic move by being blocked from communicating with some of my favorite friends .

lucky dog

OK, this statement needs an editor: "DON’T apologize to foreigners and say things to them like, “I didn’t vote for Obama,” or “He’s not MY president.” My suggestion: "Avoid saying to anyone 'He's not MY president'." The 'DON’T apologize to foreigners' can stand on it's own. And there are plenty of reasons to avoid getting into specifics about your vote; but if you are going to be specific - then tell the truth.

FYI - I am fortunate enough to spend 1-3 months every year trekking/ kayaking/ etc overseas (SA, Asia, Oz, etc) I always run into tons of other non-American westerners. And I may smile and I may laugh at the nonsense most of them believe about the USA - but I never apologize. However, on the occasion that I run into someone who can listen as well as talk - I don't mind sharing specifics like my vote (I appreciate the same honesty from them).

bad

Is Obama Blago's president? Gitmo residents are likely to end up with more due process than Blago does in Obama's America.

narciso

Is TypePad in D.C., I thought it was one of these high tech Silicon valley companies. You're kidding, right?

MayBee

My advice: Just because foreign nationals feel free to say horrible things about the US to your face, do not assume they are willing to hear you say similar things about their own country.

International criticism must be within the following boundaries:
-A foreign national may criticize America to an American citizen.
-An American citizen may (must?) criticize America to a foreign national
-An American citizen and a foreign national may jointly criticize America.
-An American citizen and a foreign national may criticize a third country (this can be tricky. If in Europe, stick to another European nation to criticize, like France. If in Asia, just pick a bordering country and you'll be fine)
-A foreign national may criticize his country to an American citizen. Do not join in! Do not join in!

bad

When you hear complaints about President Bushes handling of the war or what a mess he made of the economy, remind the whiner that Obama kept the leadership from both of those policy areas as cabinet heads.

bad

Geithner's testimony at confirmation hearings:

Sen. John Ensign quizzes Geithner on the Great Depression... Geithner responds, “I share the belief that it was only when we had in place” very substantial stimulus, stabilization of the banking system and a change in the exchange-rate regime that we were able to get out of the Depression. “We got there later than we should have as a country” due to efforts to pull back too soon before a recovery, he says.

Is this as scary as it sounds? LUN

Barbara

A bumper sticker that my sister saw last week read:

"I will treat your president the same way that you treated my President."

(emphasis added; case intentional)

It will be interesting to keep tabs on the media's whining about anything said that is critical of Mr. Zero.

clarice

narciso, I'll climb any moutain, cross any sea to find the bastards that ruined this site. I've no idea yet where they are but I'm now saddling up the pinto.

clarice

MayBee, You're right. OTOH, I never follow that rule. I enjoyed the shock on French faces when I said I loved Bush. POh, ditto in Fla when I said I most certainly did not like Obama.

narciso

Yes, it is as crazy as it sounds, does he need to do a refresher course from Harvard, that alone should disqualify him from further consideration; well that and his tax problems

lucky dog

Something that I mean to include in my earlier post. I have come to realize that deep down inside, most non-American westerners think we are a nation of GIANTS. Seriously. Despite all the propaganda, bluster, ridicule, insults, etc. directed at the USA (and me as a citizen) - I can't recall a single instance overseas when I wasn't treated as if it was a given that I am wealthy and well educated. That's part of the reason why I do not have a problem with smiling and laughing at their nonsense - versus getting angry or upset.

bio mom

This is really scary. The counterterrorism czar is testifying today. He will throw out all the Bush counterterrorism policies so as not to “be above the law” and associated garbage. This is the CIA we are talking about, not the military. We are in deep, deep doodoo. This will be worse than the Clinton years. Do we ever learn from the past? 9-11 must never have happened according to this incoming administration. The lives of our citizens is less important to them than being popular in Europe.

narciso

I shouldn't say this, because I might be considered an accessory before the fact; but SixApart's headquarters is in San Francisco, although they do have an office
in New York City, for their media division.

Cecil Turner

I rather liked this one:

DON’T say or do everything in your power to drive this country apart and then claim you want unity when it’s your guy in power.
The funny thing is, though, that even their guy can't seem to stop the former, even after taking power:
President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. [. . .]

Citing the Bush Administration's "unconscionable ineptitude" [. . .]

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that calling the new Administration "inept" or "faithless" (on the merest pretence) is fair game. But I won't. I won't.

RichatUF

Danube of Thought-

SixApart contact page.

For general questions here

JM Hanes did some digging and had a few links. I'd link to the comments but the process is cocked-up and last I tried it took me about 4 times to get it right.

I was wondering if this is more a technical issue for SixApart to up their traffic count (the side bar adverts) and the secondary issue of keeping the Russian and Chinese comment spammers off the threads (can't link directly to comments without a multi-step process). I recall about a week or so ago a comment spammer got through and started dumping links on all the threads in the archives.


Anyway-hope it helps.

Rick Ballard

I've never had a President so I don't have a problem. I also don't have any problem with the fact that the current President of the United States is Barry Barack Hussein Dunham Davis? Soetero Obama? - or whatever he's calling himself today. He won the election and took the oath - he's the President.

I won't hesitate to tell a foreigner that they should tremble in fear at the thought of a man with no character holding so much power in very dirty hands but I would reassure them that their fear should be not much greater than say a Hutu in Ruanda while Clinton was President.

MayBee

This is the CIA we are talking about, not the military.

bio mom- this being Obama, I believe there are enough loopholes built into the proposed policies that they will be clearly seen to come firmly down on every side of a situation.

Try Hang Gliding

I just want to know where I can get my "Is Dissent Still Patriotic?" bumper sticker.

peter

You know, this site became user unfriendly right around the same time I got hit with a knock down bout of the 'flu.
Coincidence? .... we think not

peter

Try Zazzle for custom bumper stickers or Cafe Press

Soylent Red

John Robb is a pretty smart guy. Hasn't Detroit been run by Democrats for a while now?

Behold, our future.

Danube of Thought

Thanks, RichardUF. I went to the contact page, where I submitted a "question" lambasting the pagination procedure and inquiring whether the site owner could elect not to have it.

clarice

DoT,Rick,Cecil, et al. I have a short deadline in which to write a piece on the closing of Guanatamo--political and legal considerations. If you've any thoughts you care to share, please ......

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

The President appears to be keeping his word to his sycophants. It's nice to see him refrain from betraying supporters in at least one instance. The fact that he is willing to condemn the current inmates at Guantanamo to probable death in the country to which they are returned is reinforcing evidence of the contempt for life and love of death established by his clear support of baby killers.

The eye gouging Obama supporters in Gaza are providing evidence today as to the probable treatment to be received by Guantanamo inmates upon their return 'home'. After all, every one of them has been suborned to the service of the United States.

I think I'd work on the "Hamas welcome" which many of the inmates will receive as one angle with a soupcon of 'the President is taking full responsibility for any future damage which occurs as a result of this unfortunate decision'.

bad

Politico, Vandehei & Harris: via Instapundit LUN

Yet much about how the 44th president will govern remains a mystery—perhaps even to Obama himself.

Journalists asking questions about something other than the dogs. So soon?

Boatbuilder

As Mark Steyn has eloquently and tirelessly pointed out, Europe as a whole (the EU) and all of the European countries individually fall far short of the US on virtually every issue about which they sneer at us--racial and ethnic tolerance, economic progress, health care, care for the poor and elderly, etc, and have an awful lot more historical horrors to apologize for. (Some of the food is pretty good, though). If a Euro condescendingly praises us for overcoming our history of race relations, ask him or her when the first Muslim will be elected to national office in Western Europe.

Sue

MayBee,

this being Obama, I believe there are enough loopholes built into the proposed policies that they will be clearly seen to come firmly down on every side of a situation.

But of course it comes with loopholes. His no lobbyists in his administration was tested less than 24 hours after he signed the EO. A waiver was signed for Obama's Deputy Defense Secretary. He lobbied for Raytheon and needed the waiver.

bad

I hope Obama wears a steel jock. All of that straddling could inflict permanent damage.

bgates

Obama Is Our President - Suck It Up
He's sucking enough for both of us, thanks.

sbw

Clarice, closing Guantanamo, Obama has offered a "solution" before he defined what problem it would solve. His first obligation, other than satisfying his netroots base, is to explain to them that the inmates are neither fish nor fowl -- not "criminals" in Merican jurisprudence and not "enemy combatants" under international war treaties.

Obama needs to say he appreciates that Bush's problem was legal ambiguity about how to assure a fair process to weed dangerous people from those who were less so, or not at all.

Legal ambiguity aside, Obama's political problem is to remove the public perception of Guantanamo while trying to build world-wide resolve to handle previously unclassified dangers that fell unwanted into President Bush's lap.

Stephanie

... inflict permanent damage.

To what?

I've seen no evidence of the need for one...

bad

lol bgates

bad

PBHO has big ears. No amount of flipping his head from side to side will change that fact.

How many state department people would prefer to regift their present today?

centralcal

Just a quick note - Obama at the State Dept. is reading from prepared remarks and still he only looks to his left and his right and never, ever looks straight ahead.

Stephanie

O is on with Hill and Bozo at the State department and I've noticed that, even without the teleprompters, even when he's reading off the podium notes, he still looks like a spectator at a tennis match. He's so ingrained/trained to "left right left right" teleprompter reading that he just can't help himself.

He was born with a silver teleprompter in his head!

Stephanie

LULZ... everyone noticed the same thing. TFF.

Amused bystander

Hehe, Steph.

centralcal

Just can't look that camera in the eye. What is that indicative of, I wonder.

Rick Ballard

DumBHO - the Lying President

Disney would probably sue for some sort of infringement. Plus there's the Flying Elephant's good name to consider. Don't elephants have a habit of swinging their heads from side to side? Maybe he picked it up from watching cartoons or documentaries.

Amused bystander

Solyent, did you see the comments to that Detroit post? They are opening up the farming laws in Detroit.

Danube of Thought

Clarice:

My machine doesn't remember your e-mail address, so I'll just respond with some thoughts here. These thoughts are unaided by any recent research, so beware.

I take a bit of issue with SBW. I think there are roughly sixty detainees at Guantanamo who are not unlawful enemy combatants, that determination having been made by Combatant Status Review Tribunals. Those sixty (unlike hundreds of others) have not been returned to their home countries because of fears they would be tortured there.

Of the remainder, some are charged with violating the laws of war, but many are not--they are being detained for the same reason we detained 400,000 Germans without trial during WWII.

For all three groups, the question facing Obama is what to do with them. I suppose there will be three different answers. My guess is that for the sixty who are not enemy combatants, he's got a year to find some other countries who will agree to take them; I doubt he'll grant them asylum in the US. For those charged with crimes, I think he favors a special court under the US judicial system, with Article III judges hearing the cases under special rules to protect sources and methods, etc. Good luck with that one--I suspect he may discover that some judges appointed under Article III will conclude that defendants in their courts are going to get all the procedural protections afforded by the constitution, and that no special rules can abrogate those rights.

As for the uncharged enemy combatants, I suppose they can be held on US soil "for the duration" just as well as they could be held at Guantanamo. But the idea is now so firmly engrained in the left-wing mind that if they're not criminals, they must be released that he's going to encounter growing problems with his left-wing base as time goes by.

Stephanie

"We need to get away from doctrine and do as the lions of Mumbai did by spilling their own pure blood and delivering themselves to Allah, striking a blow to the enemy's heart," he stated.

In the video, which has yet to be authenticated, al-Libi called the Mumbai gunmen "heroes" and urged similar acts of retaliation against other Western countries including the United States.

"Those who know Islam know that religion and a lack of faith cannot live side by side without one of the two prevailing over the other," he concluded.

I feel so much safer now that the O administration is standing between us and them, don't you?

LUN

bad

Releasing any of the GITMO detainees into the US leaves the possibility of a Willie Horton moment.

Best to avoid any policy leading to that potential.

narciso

Better to call it an Al Assad moment, after the terrorist mastermind in Season 6 of 24, who had been released from a stateside Gitmo
like facility.

bad

Seems the new admin thinks White House technology sucks.

They are giving up Macs and stuck with (gasp) Microsoft.

Complaining about it on a day Microsoft is announcing lay-offs may not be the best timing but Hey! thank you Bill Burton!!!

LUN

Sue

How you like these apples?

Category three is made up of detainees who can't be released and can't be tried. The thought is to create a panel, which could turn into a national security court, to handle these future highest-value detainees to determine prospective policy since terrorists like Al Qaeda chief Usama bin Laden will continue to be caught.

A national security court, rather than a military tribunal. Yeah. I'm seeing it. Aren't you?

Sue

This part of the above post was mine. I forgot to close a tag.

A national security court, rather than a military tribunal. Yeah. I'm seeing it. Aren't you?
bad
bad

Like, TOTALLY, you know

Bill's home

"Our President - Suck It Up"


Monica is back?

clarice

thanks, Rick and Dot..I had to write this w/out seeing your comments but I decided we should wait and see if his hubristic take today is doable--Can the One satisfy benighted international opinion without diminishing national security?

In other words, he says he can walk on water. Rather than laughing outloud, I say, "Fine, I'll be applauding when you accomplish that, but don't think I'll do that until I see it."

SBW:"Obama's political problem is to remove the public perception of Guantanamo while trying to build world-wide resolve to handle previously unclassified dangers that fell unwanted into President Bush's lap."

Yes, but don't look for him to try to do that until the year is up. Right now empty suit finds it more feasible to slap Bush around some more.

Jane

So apparently Caroline Kennedy is a crook.

Who knew?

bad

I'm interested in detail on that, Jane. Should be some fascinating reading.

Danube of Thought

Sue, what were you quoting from? Since I haven't seen the rest of it, I don't know how many "categories" the author identified, nor what the others are. But I disagree that, e.g., Osama bin Laden falls into the category of "can't be released and can't be tried." He, and others like KSM, can certainly tried, although I think it is unnecessary to do it in a US federal court and for a number of reasons is a bad idea.

The ones who truly can't be released and can't be tried are those who have not yet committed a crime, but are known to be extremely dangerous. I keep coming back to the fact that if these men were uniformed soldiers, no one would argue that they had to be tried or let go. But because they fail to meet the requirements of Article 4 of the Geneva Convention, the left actually wants to grant them greater rights than those granted to POWs.

It strikes me as marginally insane, and I agree that one way or another we're going to have a Willie Horton moment down the road. I just hope lots of people don't get killed.

clarice

Jane, what do you mean "Caroline is a crook?" Forgot which damned thread that's on.

bad

Fox News had a teaser then my children changed the channel...

I know nutting....

Danube of Thought

I'm also curious about today's order to close all "secret" CIA prisons. If any of them are now holding any prisoners, what is to be done with those prisoners?

Rick Ballard

"what is to be done with those prisoners?"

Work release program in SoCal. Why do you ask?

bad

LUN to Caroline's tax problems.

bad

and housekeeper problems....

bad

How bad can it be? There has to be more than what was discovered in the vetting process if Paterson was ready to give her the nod.

bad

DoT

The trick is in the word "secret." If anybody knows about them they're no longer secret and won't have to be closed.

PDinDetroit

Soylent - from your earlier comment, yes Detroit has been run by Democrats since 1961 and run right into the ground. I agree that there are definitely urban prairies where there used to be thriving neighborhoods.

The White-Flight of the late 60's and early 70's has given way to Black-Flight now. Southfield used to be 80% White and is now 80% Black (suburban area just North of 8 Mile).

I say let them build a new Super-Max Security Prison in Detroit. Hell, those terrorists wouldn't think of breaking out, especially in the dead of Winter.

Danube of Thought

I love this part from the NYTimes:

"Another aide to Ms. Kennedy, while not denying there were issues that emerged during her vetting, said that there was nothing that surfaced that would disqualify her from the appointment, and that the Kennedy camp and the governor’s operation had been discussing how to publicly disclose the issues."

Of course there's nothing that would disqualify her. At this point, it would require an undisclosed murder conviction to do that.

clarice

Heh,DoT. Sure, if the Sec of the Treasury can be a tax chiseler, why hold back?

clarice

BTW a few years ago uncle Ted was caught cheating on property taxes in the Dist, listing his house as his principle residence to avoid local taxes.

It's not enough that the old man sheltered all his estate by siting it on Tahiti..

bad

Did some staffer leak this stuff to NYT from the vetting prcess to force her hand?

This is weird...

MayBee

DoT

The trick is in the word "secret." If anybody knows about them they're no longer secret and won't have to be closed.

Bingo!

Topsecretk9
John Robb is a pretty smart guy. Hasn't Detroit been run by Democrats for a while now?

Behold, our future.

Posted by: Soylent Red | January 22, 2009 at 01:24 PM

Your daily Monica

The city's pension system is trying to collect $5,600 from City Council President Monica Conyers in travel advances she hasn't reconciled with the system. The tally was higher -- at least $7,300 -- but Conyers paid $1,700 Tuesday, a day before the pension system was expected to release records to The Detroit News detailing the amounts. Until December, Conyers was a member of the General Retirement System board, which manages pensions for retired and current city workers. For one trip to London for a pension conference, Conyers requested the system advance her nearly $8,392 for business class airfare, which would have been booked shortly before leaving on the trip. But records show she spent $2,652.56 on her flight for the five-day trip in June 2008. Advertisement


In two other trips, one to Grand Cayman and Philadelphia, she provided no hotel receipts.

Her travel expenses are more than the median price of a house in Detroit.

LUN

boris
if these men were uniformed soldiers, no one would argue that they had to be tried or let go. But because they fail to meet the requirements of Article 4 of the Geneva Convention, the left actually wants to grant them greater rights than those granted to POWs.

It strikes me as marginally insane ...

Of course they do. It's uniformend military they disdain, they luv their terrorists freedom fighters.

clarice

NY Post says nanny, taxes and marriage...

Barbara

OT

Could someone repost the link to the video of President Bush's farewell speech?

(This new typepad is so difficult to navigate.)

bad

NY Post says nanny, taxes and marriage...

I guess Geithner got a pass cause he wasn't doing Pinch...

clarice

I have a dream.
I have a dream that the election of a half-Black (NOT African-American) President will lead the courts to determine that the preposterous gerrymandering to assure blacks hold seats in Congress can now end, and blacks who win seats will have to appeal to a broader constituency and be a better sort than Conyers and Waters and Rangel are or have to be.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

This is a really big surprise, at least to me.

28% More Watched Reagan's Inauguration than Obama's

bgates

half-Black (NOT African-American)
That's pretty close to the formulation Conyers et al are going to use to defend their districts. "With all due respect to our great and glorious leader, I don't think we can generalize from one extraordinary man - who embodies the hopes of our black people despite, it must be said, being raised by a white family - to say that racism is dead. If anything, I fear that white people are going to try to hide behind this one vote and claim that racism is extinct, when what it really shows is that affirmative action and grotesque congressional districts and encouraging separatist victimhood is more critical to the African-American community than ever before."

Dream on, clarice.

bad

Larry Kudlow:

Last night Jay Leno cracked that while Geithner may not be a criminal, the new head of the IRS is a total incompetent.

Republicans are going to regret not voting against this guy.

On the other hand, maybe Geithner will be the butt of jokes so comics can avoid yukking it up about PBHO.

JM Hanes

"sixapart" is the parent compnay of TypePad and Movable Type. You can contact them via their TypePad Web Form. The more the merrier!

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Blago's wife fired from her $100,000 a year job.

Sue

DoT,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/22/obama-issues-directives-detainees-interrogation-guantanamo/>Here is the link.

centralcal

Caroline and Pinch. Now, there is a pairing to contemplate, you know.

Clarice, gerrymandering has brought far more ills than just the few you mentioned. In California, NONE of the mental midgets are of color - just, shall we say, colorful?

Babs Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, several crazy women of Hispanic descent.

Actually, the one ex-politico of color is the least obnoxious and the most interesting - and that would be Willie Brown.

Danube of Thought

Thanks, Sue. I do believe Fox News is a little mixed up about that third category. But reading their disucssion of the various orders, it does indeed appear that at some point the Left is going to wake up to the reality that we are--out of absolute necessity--detaining people indefinitely without trial. Enemy combatants now housed at Guantanamo could find themselves a year from now housed in Afghanistan, and wishing they were back in Cuba. OK by me.

bad

Powerline has the Q & A from Gibbs' press conference today regarding the EO about Gitmo.

The press pressed more than expected. LUN

Pal2Pal (Sara)

First Obama blows off the Medal of Honor ball and now this. Sorry folks, you might be willing to call this loser your President, I'll never accept him as Commander-in-Chief. In fact, I've gone from being very much against his policies to actually despising the man and his supporters and we are only in Day Three.

Wounded vets walk out during inaugural ball concert

And then there is Hillary saying a new day, we are all going to be on the American team, AND the kicker, we WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE DIVISIVENESS.

Extraneus

In case anyone hasn't seen this, Robert Reich has a dream, too, about devising criteria to prevent white males from getting "stimulus" funds.

bad

Extraneous, those are all the guys who voted against BHO...if you can believe the polls.

Extraneus

Nothing against white males, but if they're still the enemy in a post-racial world, they might develop the gall to resist sucking it up, and that could be divisive.

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