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January 26, 2009

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CarlSpackler

Obama is the new Cinderella Story - LUN

GUS

Move to California with your car??

Are you friggin nuts??? Nobody moves to California anymore.
Seriously, I don't think most peeps realize the world of shyte we are in. Libs have come to the realization that they can make ANY RULE they like.
And they are.
Libs have no CLUE about economics. Much like Barry Obama has NO CLUE about anything.
NO CLUE IS.....AS... NO CLUE DOES.
Liberals are LOOTING right now. They are taking advantage of a political vacuum no different than Stalin or Castro did.

Rick Ballard

"How is it that "Protecting Vulnerable" adds 549k according to Team Zero's math?"

Newspeak. The Chicago gutter trash threatened to hire about that many community bums - looks like he meant it.

Extraneus

If we don't click on it, will the teeth ad go away?

JM Hanes

hit & run:

Did you get my email?

Danube of Thought

Barney, concerning California emissions standards, the last time I encountered them you were only required to expend up to a maximum of $75 to bring your vehicle into compliance, and if it didn't meet the standards after that expenditure, your registration would go through. The idea was that they didn't want to impose huge costs on poor people with old clunkers. But that little act of kindness allowed me to skate my 12-cylinder Jaguar convertible through after forking over the $75.

Think about the alternative: does either Arnold or the generally insane California legislature really want to make it intolerably burdensome for people to move into this state with their cars? I don't think so.

Frerizes

Von Painer or another name?

GUS

Barry praised California's standards.

How is California's economy doing>?

narciso

So they fired Kristol, and kept Krugman because, Nobel Prize and all that; not like when he told Spiegel, that Bush was like Marcos and he expected to be sent to sent to Gitmo; that a level of delusion far above
anything Kristol has said in a proximate period.

Chris

DoT,
You are correct on the CA vehicle reg requirements, although the $75 may have gone up. It's still outrageous to register a car here. Just paid $300 (that's an annual #) for my 4 year old SUV (I denounce myself) last week.

As to not wanting to discourage people from moving here, that ship sailed a while back, I think. They are collecting signatures for a ballot initiative to tax people on the way out now. Nice people here.

Rick Ballard

"How is California's economy doing>?"

Well, they had a fantastic 48.85% growth rate from Nov 07 to Nov 08.

Unfortunately, it was in unemployment.

bad

lol

Sue

Chris,

ballot initiative to tax people on the way out now

How does that work? Do they have border patrols that catch you as you sneek out? They are more concerned with people leaving California than illegals coming in?

bad

priorities, Sue

Mel

Rick-

And their Jumbo Loan default rate? Is it keeping pace with unemployment growth or is it beating it? If they're going to be the best at something, may as well go for the gusto.

That non-recourse law is for the birds. It burned them in '92-3 and it's going to trap them again.

Idjits.

bad

Dis anyone see Blago on The Spew? I missed it, unfortunately...

gus

Please note the STATES that are seeking Federal hand-outs, to solve their "involvency". Blue or Red??
Mostly BLUE.
Liberals DESTROY anything they touch.
They are in the midst of DESTROYING America's capitalistic economy.
They have shit on and bad mouthed America since G.W.Bush beat Al Gore.
They are surprised when some of their propaganda and rhetoric has taken root.

Liberalism is a disease.

Chris

I'm sure they would enforce it through Sacramento via tax returns. Sell your house/business and move, pay Sacramento is kinda how it would work. Illegals coming in are the main reason the state hasn't seen a population decrease. American-born citizens have been net outflowing for 5 years running. Rumor has it they'll now be staying for higher emission standards however. That and the second- (headed for third-) world standard of living.

Sue

bad,

The initiative was withdrawn, according to the SoS's website. Apparently there are still some sane people in California. I didn't look to see if he was able to get enough signatures or not, but either way, it is not going to happen. He wanted 50% one time tax of anyone's wealth over $20 million. That is half of Hollywood, the governor and Jay Leno. I don't think so.

Sue

Chris,

Wouldn't that be double taxation, since the federal government already does that?

Mel

If they put it up, which I doubt, I will post WTTW's Chicago Tonight episode that had the full on "crazy" defense for the future victims of Blagojevich, twenty minutes or so by two psychologists (MD's).

They made all the right comments that he's narcissistic, with psychopathic tendencies, and that any thing he says right now is approaching delusional. My wife, an Obamabot, even laughed at that approach. She didn't know about the White House guest, I mean, subpoena list and originally thought it's a fishing trip. After the Blagojevich revue, she has realized that it's a bit more substantial than that, taking into consideration that the man has made deals with everyone he's ever come in contact.

Woodward still has the nose for a scandal. Smells just like popcorn.

Sue

Who am I kidding? Scratch that last comment by me. We are double taxed out the wazoo and no one cares.

Mel

bad-

Clips are up, view at your own risk.

(I can't believe I went on that site....)

Mel

Bad-

(LUN)

(Head lowered again)

bad

Thanks Mel, you da best!

Pagar

IMO, the vote to confirm a tax cheat as the Secretary of Treasury should have been the easiest solid No vote the Republicans will ever see. I just don't understand what goes thru Senator's minds as they vote.

Amused bystander

Pagers: Unicorns?

bad

I just don't understand what goes thru Senator's minds as they vote.

Visions of themselves with more money and more power...

Jane

Pagar,

I think they are all insanely out of touch with the people they (supposedly) represent.

Either that or Obama said if they didn't confirm Obama, Bill Ayers was his next pick.

bad

I think that's funny Jane, but yet, possible.

clarice

I think they are petrified to do anything which anyone might say kept the O from getting the economy back on track.

Stupid? Yes.

Let's challenge the Senate Republicans to a JOM poker match.

bgates

should have been the easiest solid No vote the Republicans will ever see.
You don't think Al Arabiya's very special guest star can come up with a less palatable vote in the next couple years? Yes he can!

You think the Republicans will continue to disappoint if he does anything up to and including making Ayers superintendent at West Point? Yes they will! I enjoyed Orrin Hatch's statement that while of course a Republican with the same problems would never have made it out of committee, he would still vote yes.

That statement inspired the following skit idea, "Orrin Hatch stands up for his own side":

Chuck Schumer: Hatch, I'm coming over to your house at 7 to have sex with your wife, so clear out.
Orrin Hatch: Could we delay until 7:15, Mr Schumer? I'd like to have your dry cleaning waiting for you when you get there.
*******
This has been "Orrin Hatch stands up for his own side".

bad

Gutess wonders

bad

gutless

bad

Nice bgates

PD

Blago on The View was essentially a rerun of Blago on Good Morning America. (recorded them both and watched them this evening.)

Not too exciting. He recited similar lines to those from other recent appearances. The most interesting part to me was Babs Walters asking him, you say you have the interest of the state at heart, so given all the changes against you and the way your government is at a standstill, and just out of a sense of decency, wouldn't the best thing be to just resign?

Blago's response, was that it would be the worst thing to let politicians railroad someone who hasn't done anything wrong.

I think that's the correct response and that Babs is dead wrong: Regardless of whether Blago's guilty or not, Babs' line of argument was essentially this: If people can stack up a big enough pile of accusations, true or not, shouldn't you just roll over and go away?

That's nuts.

gus

Folks, we are captives on the Planet of the Apes.
The insane are in charge.
They are not merely wrong, they are completely out of control in a liberal....LOOTING FRENZY!!

clarice

"That's nuts"

Yes, and that's our Babs.

bad

She's nuts.

Amused bystander

Clarice: then how do we get through to them. In a year, it is going to be clear that this is just another special interest ripoff.

There is no way that Obama is going to "stimulate" the economy out of recession.

Mark my words, anyone associated with this monster is going to regret it. The nation will just be fuming.

What do we do?

Pagar

Jane, I don't think they want to put William Ayers out front, then they would have find someone else to pull the strings behind the curtain.

You all have cheered me up, I now realize I can't fight the unicorns.

bad

"Looting frenzy" seems appropriate.

PD

Chloe on "24" tonight (no, this is not a spoiler):

"No, I'm a stay-at-home mom."

Heh. Upon hearing that, I turned to my sweetie and said, "So *that's* what you're up to when you leave the house?"

Sue

You know the money isn't really going to start hitting until right around the time we are projected to come out of the recession anyway? It will seem as if Obama did it! Yeah. Our savior.

Danube of Thought

I've got this terminally boring legal issue with states setting their own emissions standards for vehicles: I think that if they did so it would be unconstitutional under the interstate commerce clause.

I am not sure how we arrived at where we are now, i.e., the national standards apply in CA (and everywhere) unless the president, or the EPA, or whoever, grants some sort of waiver. I think that if, via this waiver process or whatever, individual states are allowed to do this, that scheme will ultimately be struck down by the Supremes, even with Weird David Souter in one of the chairs.

I think this is a classic instance where federal legislation or rule-making on an issue will be deemed to have "pre-empted the field." Allowing fifty different sets of standards, each of which could be used to prevent the free movement of vehicles between and among the states, would be not just idiotic but unconstitutional.

But I'm willing to listen to argument...

bad

DoT, it seems a lot of stupid ideas originate there, fail, and are then copied by other states.

Gotta love it...

clarice

I agree,DoT--

Amused"What do we do?"
We have to start shaming them--we have to start writing to Orin Hatch and telling him he should step aside if that's the best he can do...and we have to support those who exercise some brains. Write Cantor. Ask what we can do to help. He knows this is madness, but you know the majority of voters probably still doesn;t know the Dems control Congress.

Pofarmer

I don't know what the hell to say. We are in the middle of a financial crisis and they are wasting time on whether or not Bush fired someone for political reasons.

C'mon now, if they're screwing with Rove they aren't spending our money.

Mel

Lull before the storm.

Alarm calls, nite all.

bad

we're looking forward to global warming on every power line, twig, bush, tree, road, sidewalk, windshield, etc., tomorrow morning.

good times

Pofarmer

You know the money isn't really going to start hitting until right around the time we are projected to come out of the recession anyway? It will seem as if Obama did it! Yeah. Our savior.

No, what it will do, is then proceed to drive inflation through the roof, thus, creating yet some other bubble.

bgates

If people can stack up a big enough pile of accusations, true or not, shouldn't you just roll over and go away?
Blago shoulda asked Babs if that was her position during the Clinton impeachment*.

*Note for future historians: as I am writing in Jan 2009, I am referring to Bill Clinton's impeachment in the 1990s, not any Secretary of State or Supreme Court impeachments that may occur in my future.

Chris

DoT,
But I'm willing to listen to argument...

I agree with you that you can't have fifty different sets of emission requirements and expect to have a thriving auto industry. Perhaps that's the plan, no? We now have around 20 different boutique blends of gas mandated by the EPA. This causes all sorts of problems; shortages, price hikes etc. I'm not sure the Supremes would strike down the EPA's acquiesence to state requests. Hope they would but color me unconvinced. This is the same SC that labeled CO2 a pollutant, no?

narciso

Dissapointing in the extreme, although they were some surprises

Ann

Belated Happy Birthdays to Enlightened and Extraneus!

Good luck Barney!

PD, I just watched 24 and told my family that it will probably take a stay at home mom to save America. :)

I really wish I could think of something funny to say, today. Even coaches">http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/26/update-coach-fired-for-un-apologizing-after-100-0-win/">coaches get fired for encouraging success. I guess the new advice to kids is "failure should be your model" Look at all the fine examples of American history in 2009!

Ann

Did I say something about failure?:)

coaches

narciso

Bgates, I thought you had borrowed the time machine again, without permission

cathyf
Let's pay cathyf a lot of money to come up with a work around..
Hey, I'm in! Although I can't understand why Charles Johnson doesn't syndicate the software he has written for LGF. That thing where he has a control that only refreshes the posts from the bottom of the page down (i.e. it only gets new comments and is virtually instantaneous) makes me utterly green with envy every time I push it.
PD

PD, I just watched 24 and told my family that it will probably take a stay at home mom to save America. :)

They are indeed one of the most underappreciated resources of our country. (But not underappreciated in my household!)

clarice

We're leaving this in your capable hands, cf.

kindamaybeinvesting

The abortions overseas are a go, but he got canceled domestically. They will be canceling the aid anyway under the congressional investigation, especially the five year outside the US government budget US government budget. The entitlements are food and health care and the US were behind their foreign entitlements, so no free birth control or abortions in the US. Soon, we can tell Americans that having kids without a 100,000 income is irresponsible. I'd love to be in Africa doing development right now....... LU<

Stay at home mom? Jack is an insane murderer. This is who saves America under Bush's torture and war. I suppose you want some HOBO who sues over loan criteria........

Pofarmer

Oh man, Barry really is a feel good doofus.

We're all gonna pay big for statements like this from his big thingy on the environment today.

Science will trump ideology and special interests, attention will stay high even when gas prices fall

I thought this one was great

I take it he doesn't do math, either.

It falls on us to choose whether to risk the peril that comes with our current course or to seize the promise of energy independence," Obama said. "And for the sake of our security, our economy and our planet, we must have the courage and the commitment to change."

If somebody can point to something that Barry is proposing that will actually lower our dependane on foreign oil, I'd be much obliged. I guess when he shuts down the carrier fleet, that should help out a bunch.


It is very telling that at a time when he's working feverishly to pass an $825 billion stimulus package, he took these concrete steps on day six," she said. "That speaks volumes to his commitment." Environmental advocates, she added, are "all going to be applauding him — and holding his feet to the fire
Environmental advocates, she added, are "all going to be applauding him — and holding his feet to the fire."

Oh, lookee, he'll ruin our cars AND our economy. Man, the California brownouts are gonna look like salad days. I think I should get a generator dealership going.

Daddy

Well, on the positive side, Instapundit is linking to a story showing that some serious scientists now believe that the Black Hole to be created by the Hadron Super Colider might actually last for minutes, not giga-milli-seconds, so we all might be sucked into an alternate universe before Obama's tax plan takes effect.

Thomas Jackson

You know in Shakespeare's time he had economists talk down pat, eye of newt, toe of frog, bubble,bubble, toil and trouble.

These guys have less understanding than my six year old's ability to balance a check book.

rhymin simon

I do not understand the Blago PR blitz. The Illinois Senate will impeach him. Blago will or has filed amotion to dismiss Fitz because of the grandstanding. Holder or the new AG will signal to the judge to grant the motion and goodbye Fitz. The only drama is to publcize that Obama and his associates have given grand jury testimony and the tapes but the media will not be interested.

rhymin simon

Hey did you guys want Krugman instead of tax cheat Timmy. The way the Times is going he might need another gig. Oh well he can still use the Nobel Prize money but maybe he invested with Madoff or some carbon offset crap.

JM Hanes

Hope that does it for the Italics.

Porchlight

Porchlight

Thanks, JMH. I was using Firefox before and it looked like the italics weren't fixed, but they're fine now in IE.

Pagar

If somebody can point to something that Barry is proposing that will actually lower our dependane on foreign oil, I'd be much obliged.

I suspect the anti US drilling efforts will increase our dependency on foreign oil, not reduce it.

pagar

Feels like I'm talking to my self. Can't believe no one has anything to say about the Al-Arabiya interview with Obama.

Pofarmer

Can't believe no one has anything to say about the Al-Arabiya interview with Obama.

I thought that post was just a spoof. I'm serious man, this is Alice in Wonderland stuff.

I suspect the anti US drilling efforts will increase our dependency on foreign oil, not reduce it.

That's what I'm sayin. We can turn ALL our crops into biofuels and not produce 3% of our oil usage but that's what he's focusing on. We can build windmills till we destabilize the grid, which is not that far off, actually, and not do a thing for energy security. The fact that their policies don't match their rhetoric is just lost on most people. On the good side though, My little Bro, who doesn't vote, I just found out, is starting to enjoy Rush and Hannity. Gotta get some of the Agnostics fired up.

hit and run

Oh, boy, I thought as the email came into my inbox a few moments ago…

From: Southwest Airlines
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:16 AM
To: [hit and run]
Subject: Yes You Can Sale!

Cripes, now Southwest Airlines is shamelessly hopping aboard the Hope and Change Express!!!!

But reading the email I was utterly and bitterly disappointed. They weren't giving away unicorns, rainbows and free airfare…they were charging money for it!!! This just wasn't supposed to be in the Age of Obama!!!!

But then, I looked at it again.

It's not "Yes We Can".

It's "Yes You Can".

They get it. They are twisting the Obama slogan to appeal to my shameless, selfish, evil rethuglican greedy capitalist nature, where having worked hard to earn and then save some money, I just might choose to spend it indulgently.

"We", nothing. It's all about me, me, me!!!.

Yes, Southwest, you got me. I wanna get away.

Pofarmer

Ya know, it's gonna be really hard to tell the difference between enemy propaganda, the onion, and U.S. policy for few years.

Jane

It's time to leave the country.

Looking for Australian husband. Will put out.

Call me

hit and run

JMH, yes I did get your email, I please accept my humble apology for not replying yet. When I get home this evening, it will be the first thing I attend to . . . after making dinner, going to scouts, and putting the kids to bed.

And, good morning everyone.

narciso

Good morning all, Po, I don't like to dwell on thoughts like that, but that was exactly why he scared me so much. On the energy and
the foreign policy front; it seems like we're backsliding on so much, for no good razon (reason) I shift to Spanish, when I get anxious. I saw some hope, in those who voted against Geithner, but a great deal of dissapointment. There's very little principle in the Party I'm in almost be default now by. But there are good people in it, and 'it's always dark before the dawn' and all those other cliches. I wasn't around in '65, and I was less focused in '77, so I don't really have a baseline of memories of what this situation is like. Partially, this is why, I'm so looking forward to the CPAC conference, to gain some perspective, meet some like minded people, who believe there is a better way and well to meet the one inspirational part of this otherwise dreadful campaign just passed. I'm not a negative person, by nature, but events recently have colored this perspective. Has anybody else been to this event before, to have an idea what to expect.

bad

ha ha Jane

bad

Good morning!! Blago was on Fox this morning.

Go Blago!!

narciso

Yes, by all means, go Blago, seriously Fitz needs to have a comeuppance, after what he did to Scooter and Conrad. preferably they can have a better choice next time and pick someone like Mark Kirk, but these time servers and appendages of the Daley machine, pretending to be more pure than him.
So the gist of the Arabiya interview as I get it is they shouldn't have to fear us.
Well the ordinary people of the Middle East shouldn't have any reason. But those who proselitize death, and destruction, those who sit on their thrones and imperial palaces, in khaki mufti, grinding the people down, should fear us. I imagine that point never really got through, frankly given everything we know about him; I don't think he knows the difference. and that does concern me

bad

John Kass

bad

John Kass, LUN

Biker

Spend, print money; spend more, print more money; spend even more, print ...

I'm a Noble-Prize class economist; where do I go to pick it up?

TM

The only situation in which a tax cut or spending increase creates jobs is when the economy is operating below full employment, and the Fed is unable to remedy the situation.

So, Krugman's right, given current unemployment numbers and the inability of the Fed's lower interest rates / corporate takeovers to stimulate the economy.

We need tax cuts.

Joe

Good post. What is also ridiculous about Krugman's ATC analogy is that according to FAA regulations (FAR 91.3):

(a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.
(b) In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule of this part to the extent required to meet that emergency.

So, ATC must *always* defer to the pilot at his discretion. If only the rest of the government operated that way...

jimmyk


Fixed?

clarice

Jane*tdsk tsk*
Very funny, Hit..

Good Morning JOM!

clarice

fROM THE GRAT KASS (SUPRA) who likened the View appearance to The Brides of Dracula:
"On "The View" he issued a threat to his estranged father-in-law, Ald. Dick Mell (33rd), the man who made him. The governor said his political problems began after he blocked an illegal landfill supported by Mell. That may have slipped past all the pretend Chicago political experts, but it didn't slip past Chicago politicians. They know a threat when they hear it.

Yet it is what Gov. Nosferatu told NBC over the weekend that surely terrifies Illinois politicians:

"And for me to just quit because some cackling politicians want to get me out of the way because there's a whole bunch of things they don't want known about them and conversations they may have had with me . . . would be to disgrace my children when I know I've done nothing wrong," said the governor.

I've got an idea for a show like "The View" that would be so scary, our politicians would demand emergency government subsidies for Depends.

Instead of lumpy comics touching his hair, how about four tough, bright female federal prosecutors in the U.S. attorney's public corruption squad interviewing a cooperating Gov. Nosferatu for hours in the federal building?

Mayor Richard Daley and the other "cackling politicians" could watch. Taxpayers might think it a comedy, but politicians know that true horror can be just a witness away."

RichatUF

Pofarmer-

I never really understood from the environmentalist perspective why importing oil from Norway, Canada, and Mexico is a bad thing.

TM-

Is there a tax cut that Krugman has ever supported?

narciso

Unfortunately my hunch was right, from a link to the interview from Gateway Pundit:

...Obama also signaled a move away from President Bush's confrontational,
generalizing language. Melhem noted to Obama that "President Bush framed the war on terror conceptually in a way that was very broad, 'war on terror,' and used sometimes certain terminology that the many people -- Islamic fascism. You've always framed it in a different way, specifically against one group called al Qaeda and their collaborators."

"I think that you're making a veryimportant point. And that is that the language we use matters," Obama replied. "[W]hat we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name.

"And so you will I think see our
administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda -- that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it -- and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop," he said. "We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down."

So organizations like the Ilkwan Islamiya (Moslem Brotherhood) from which AQ derives
it roots, are alright in his book, despite
they created Hamas, provide the underpinings
to front groups like CAIR, Just like I feared.

JM Hanes

No wonder Obama (along with his Democratic co-conspirators) is determined to ram the stimulus bill through Congress ASAP -- even at the risk of ceding his bi-partisan street cred. He probably can't believe his luck! He's got a gold mine of agenda spending -- without ever having to lay out, much less sell, his actual agenda. And all before the honeymoon has really even gotten underway. There's that old crisis "management" in action!

As I suspected, Obama's Secretary of Education is going to be siting on a mountain of money, per Michael Franc at The Corner. He links to more details, serious arm waving, and The rest of the EDU story.

Pofarmer

Obama just gave the Islmists the go ahead to get heavy into the political process.

Neat.

Buy more ammo.

And guns.

And hide them both.

narciso

Morning Clarice, didn't mean to leave you out of what I've been thankful for this year. You cut through all the verbiage nad double talk present in the news, don't you kind of run this blog, while TM is away. You encouraged me that my observations were not totally crazy, when it seems that most people around me, are following the same drummer. I'm looking forward to meeting you
too

Rick Ballard

TM,

Tax cuts might have a beneficial impact but they will not restore trust. The appointment of TurboTimmy won't do that either.

I've been looking at the unemployment numbers from the '90-'93 period and the jump from "level", 5.4% June '90, to peak, 7.8% in June '92 took 24 months. "Level" this time was 4.7% in November '07 and we hit 7.2% in December. That's a much faster and steeper rise in unemployment. Employers are shedding the nonproductive at an accelerating rate and demographics suggest that they can do so with relative impunity, given the bulge in the numbers of those within a year or two of retirement.

A prudent employer, with a commie in the White House and a tax cheat at Treasury, is going to dispose of every bit of deadwood possible as quickly as possible, in the sure and certain knowledge that the commie and his buddies in Congress are going to try and make layoffs and firings much more difficult. By the same token, a prudent employer will make do with the most productive and trusted employees rather than hire any shiny eyed Obots.

Kudlow has some comments at NRO in which he states: "However, investor capital is on strike against stocks, real estate, and distressed toxic assets." He could have added "and employers are going on strike regarding employment as well".

PS - For those scoring at home - the unpleasantness of the early '80's began from about a 6.3% base in March '80 and peaked at 10.8% in December of '82. Again, the rate of increase in unemployment this time around is much higher. I really think that Obama will set a post war record in a very short time. He really does inspire a level of distrust among the productive that is truly singular.

Amused bystander

Narciso: We should expect a lot of this process/pseudo-legalistic sophistry, casuistry and hairsplitting. Expect,we should as well, a lot of emphasis on terminology.
In fact, we should expect little else.

These is a core Liberal trait. It is just high intellectual self regard. They always try to jaw their way around problems. All they do is talk for a living. It is all they know how to do. It is all that they want to do. Never had they had to earn an honest living, and rarely have they had to face the consequences of their actions or beliefs.

And bizarrely, they really do believe that no one but themselves can ever really solve any problem whatsopever. They really do believe this. Nothing will change their pathologies. They simply must somehow be removed from power.

Case and point:

I think that you're making a veryimportant point. And that is that the language we use matters," Obama replied. "[W]hat we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name.

Note the usage of "faiths". What does he mean? Is he talking about Israel? Christians?
Quite disturbing. They are just going to undo all advances, and do so willingly and wittingly. Change? That is the very last thing that they want.

America and the Judeo-Christian heritage are the enemies, not Islam.

Right out of a faculty lounge chit chat.
The Islamicists are just laughing.

Americans are going to die from this, but evidently the country has to go through it.

They will find that there is no such thing as "moderate Islamic states" in ME that want to get along.

Their assertions about Bush's approach is of course not true, but since Bush actually did something the results are of course invalid. The West is never right,and of course cannot do anything with out Liberal intellectuals and politicians guiding it.

There is really no way to reason with these people. For all their jabbering, they have quite departed from Reason altogether. History too.

We will reap what we sowed in giving these people power, and the best that we can do is point out the lunacy to voters and hope that there is something left to save when the tide turns.

RichatUF

JM Hanes-

You'd think that the pigs at the trough would get full. Sometime.

narciso

And I can't forget the prayers, and thoughts
and medical advice, better than the Mayo Clinic's website, (how does that sound) during my mother's recent time out of the hospital

Pofarmer

Tax cuts might have a beneficial impact but they will not restore trust. The appointment of TurboTimmy won't do that either.

Exactly. Nobody with a brain trusts this guy, and anybody with a brain expects taxes will HAVE to go up to cover all this profligate spending. I think companies are trying to protect thier capital assets righ tnow, as they can always add employee's back if things pick up, but if they go to far and get liquidated, it's, well, tougher then.

Old Lurker

"A prudent employer, with a commie in the White House and a tax cheat at Treasury, is going to dispose of every bit of deadwood possible as quickly as possible, in the sure and certain knowledge that the commie and his buddies in Congress are going to try and make layoffs and firings much more difficult."

...and with Card Check in place and national health care too, the cost of employing those who remain will be higher as well. Add to that higher (and uncertain) tax levels for the investor class, and those "what is new this time" musings that so depressed me last week remain.

narciso

It sounds a good deal like Jimmy Carter's
"Inordinate Fear of Communism" speech at Notre Dame, without the 30 years of insight
we've painfully acquired. Of course, we know the consequences of that mindset, Nicaragua fell to the Sandinistas, the guerillas tried assaults in El Salvador and Guatemala, provoking a brutal backlash, the Shah fell to the Ayatollah, the Sauds were shaken by a Wahhabi challenge within their very ranks, and the invasion of Afghanistan,
which provoked this current cycle of events.

I fear nothing good, can come of this, at least in the short term. Well Santayana was
right at least on that point,

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