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January 05, 2009

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PeterUK

Puberty? Tossero couldn't handle puberty !

Enlightened

Ya know, I am a little disappointed. Lil'Blago has been awfully quiet. I'm just not nearly as impressed with Burris, although he is gaining in the I'm MoonBatShitCrazy sweeps....

Enlightened

"Puberty? Tossero couldn't handle puberty !"

Well, yeah I guess so, missing his balls 'n all.

Those need to drop first, so I guess he's still waiting on that.

RichatUF

Sara-

When you finally realize your Zero Hero is a phony baloney empty suit...

Obama is the American Idol Presidency. His true believers will never realize what sort of empty suit he is-even in the face of a terrorist wave (and I wouldn't be shocked if terror attacks so bad in Europe that Article 5 of NATO is invoked again, or at least it is tried).

He has already gave an indication to what his plans are for Israel and his advisors are all of the Orientalist and Arabist schools. He is laying the groundwork for Operation Aparthide to severly weaken Israel's own ability to defend itself and deliever a major victory to the Islamists.

clarice feldman

I go away for a bit, come back, scroll thru the thread and decide it's time to take out those pistolas with the tesoro etched on the handles, and lo and behold, he's vanished in a puff of smoke with a best wishes to me..Wow!
Cecil--very good on just war..Soylent--it's not that I want to set up a competition or anything, but that WAS a great post.

Soylent Red

FYI folks...

You can start voting for JOM now.

E. Nigma

Leon Pannetta as DCIA? Is this a Tom Clancy novel?
Well, at least he is a political apparatchnik of the Democrat party and may have Obama's blessings in cleaning house, kicking butts and taking names at the CIA.

Howie Mandel for Commerce Secretary: Deal, or no deal?

Does Obama have caller ID for that 3 am phone call? "This is not the phone call I was expecting at 3 am."

Cecil Turner

Does this mean we can stop "remembering the Alamo?"

Er, no. We won that one (if you count "us" as the Texan side). In fact, one could make a fair argument that Santa Anna's invasion was futile . . . but it wasn't all that clear at the time.

I don't speak for the "left," in particular, but for myself -- one who helped elect George W. Bush in 2000 . . .

Why is it that everybody trotting out lefty stupidity on this board claims to be an ex-GOP voter? Dunno how many people made the shift (3%?), but if you could believe all the pseudonymous claims, an unbelievable percentage showed up here (kinda like the ubiquitous French resistance poseurs after the war . . .) In any event, the idea that there's some sort of legal requirement to refrain from using the bully pulpit prior to inauguration is laughable nonsense . . . even if the President-Elect had discovered it in a timely fashion and hewed to it even when it was inconvenient (neither of which, afaict, he did).

PeterUK

Well,would you look at that? Obama trying to get support for $300 billion tax cuts. The "biggest in history". That really is "speaking out".Obviously the Palestinian donors are small beer.

analystsliveinthebasement wheritssafeandthereisnofieldshit

'Dear colleagues and friends:

I am writing to all of you - the community of students, faculty, staff, and alumni of Harvard Law School -...'

Harvard rules the planet. We were the original 'I'll use' and that's because we got Kennedy shot and we shall be the dems we are and oppress you like we always have; we know how to run the planet. So, don't give our informants for the CIA any shit because we are enabling them for serving the country under sovereign law. Don't worry about the CIA Harvard and that other school competition. We win cause we use like any agency that reports to Congress.

So, they figured out we think the government's money is ours, well, we're broke like everyone else and we'll fix it as soon as we get more dem credit for hiring more federal employees.

Danube of Thought

Bush has liberated 50 million people from ghastly despotism, and has kept the nation from being attacked for seven years while Islamic terrorists attempt to continue their depredations elsewhere. He has soundly defeated Al Qaeda on what it declared to be the central front in its war on the West.

Obama's clock starts running in two weeks. I certainly wish him well, but would feel better about him if he had ever actually done anything.

clarice feldman

Small beer, indeed, as they are soon to find out.

Danube of Thought

You must be mistaken, PUK--Obama can't be doing those things. Since he is no longer a Senator and is not yet president, he has no platform from which he can lead the nation under American law. Or some such gibberish.

PeterUK

DoT,
Yes, of course,"one president at a time".Must be a misprint,"Obama DOESN'T seek support for $300billion tax cuts".

Enlightened

Hmmm...speaking of gibberish.....hey Leon - can you take of that please.....

Enlightened

take ***care***of

RichatUF

Vote Early, Vote Often, Vote Just One Minute

narciso

It was a holding action, like Thermopylae was for the Spartans followed by the battle of Platea. The battle of San Jacinto (which happened to be the carrier GHW Bush was based on) was more significant in the long run.

I'm still stunned about Panetta, it really is an out of the box appointment and not in a good way. Wonder what those boys at Langley who piped up in Mother Jones feel like now. Of course, when you a priori, block anyone who is even aware of the covert operations which have protected us
for 7 1/2 years like the nutroots thumbs down to Brennan, what can one expect. Truman had Vandenberg, whose brother was Chairman of Foreign Relations. Kennedy had McCone, an industrialist with Air Force experience. Carter had a teetotaling Admiral, when his first choice Sorenson was turned down. Woolsey was probably the best of the lot, with Deutsch a complete disaster; and Tenet, a relative improvement.
Goss, well you know he might as well have been from Alaska, instead of a Cold Warrior in the Caribbean. We'll probably have to wait that long before we get a competent
person in there.

clarice feldman

The US Dist Ct granted Fitz the 90 day extension within which to file the Blago indictment which he had sought.

tesoro


Good day, and give clarice feldman my regards.

>>> Are you one of those clarice stalkers?

Pretty funny considering, but no. She and I have known each other online since 2001 though recently had some differences of opinion due to her.. tendency toward overreaching involvement.

>>> I go away for a bit, come back, scroll thru the thread and decide it's time to take out those pistolas with the tesoro etched on the handles, and lo and behold, he's vanished in a puff of smoke with a best wishes to me..Wow!

No, just decided to take you up on your many invitations to join this group once again. It's obviously not for me, which I've told you in the past. Too one-sided, which is what's wrong with most forums, blogs, etc.

By the way, I am genuinely asking since I'm a bit surprised -- and since you made such a big deal out of Obama's involvement with Ayers, which never did stick -- why would "The American Thinker" even consider publishing the work of Steven Rosen, who is currently out on bail and accused of spying against the United States?

AT's involvement with Rosen is more than mildy shocking to us nobodies outside the beltway.

Topsecretk9

Harry Reid lied

CHICAGO -- A federal judge has given prosecutors an additional three months to obtain an indictment in Gov. Rod Blagojevich's corruption case.

Chief Judge James Holderman granted the extension Monday, saying the case against Blagojevich is too complex to expect prosecutors to obtain an indictment by a Jan. 7 deadline. He set an April 7 deadline instead.

http://tiny.cc/QhQbw

kim

C'mon, t, you answered nothing.
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PDinDetroit

Apparently, Zero is too busy posing for pics with Comrade Pelosi (LUN) to take a stand on either supporting President Bush or Israel. Just another case of voting "present", but totally unaccounted for.

Note in the article that they do not bring up the "first 100 hours" idea for either the new Congress or the new President. Is this a "vote of no confidence" or are they trying to fly under the radar? Enquiring minds want to know...

Does anyone here have a link for how many of the initiatives and status that were supposed to be passed in the "first 100 hours" WAR that congress was supposed to fight last time around? Might make for an interesting TM Blog Entry and fodder for the popcorn sales.

kim

It's another Fitz down for Team Justice, moving the ball well, now, near midfield.
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kim

The first 100 hours will be Nahncy arm wrestling the Newbie with Reid officiousating in between landing glahncy blows.
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PDinDetroit

I meant initiatives then vs now...

Porter

Tsk9-

I hate say I tol...

fdcol63

The New 3 Stooges:

Obama, Reid & Pelosi

kim

Waddya mean, nothing stuck about Ayers? After the apologia from the old grey lady sank he's reduced to HuffPo threadsbare. He hoped for a continuing spot at just another neighborhood kitchen table.
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PeterUK

"AT's involvement with Rosen is more than mildy shocking to us nobodies outside the beltway."

You missed the turning,this is JOM Obama thread.Remember him? The tall silent type tagged to be president and Commander in Chief,wit da key to all dem bombs.

Porter

"I hate to say I tol..."

Grammar? I thought they said Frasier has left the building...

Bah.

clarice feldman

Oh, it's you, Tess..and which personality are you know adopting?
As for Steve Rosen--I expect that as soon as Richmon confirms the trial court rulings the preposeterous case against him and his co-defendant will be dropped.
It was another Szady special..Look him up if narciso doesn't explain to you about the most godawful stupid (and probably anti-semitic) "spy"hunter in American history--one who covered for his friends in the FBI who were sleeping with a Chinese spy and lying about it to the agenct, allowing the Chinese to get everything they wanted and to discredit any good info we had.

PeterUK

Bush should take Obama to one side and tell him "One day son,all this will be yours.

clarice feldman

**are you now adopting**
**Richmond (US Ct of Appeals)***
preposterous..

kim

Blame the Juice.
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PDinDetroit


The New 3 Stooges:

Obama, Reid & Pelosi

Now that is an insult to Moe, Larry, and Curly!

Although, it is interesting to watch Zero plumb himself in and stuck in the bathtub.

Enlightened

"who is currently out on bail and accused of spying against the United States?"

Let me help you Nobody -

Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

Very similar in concept to - Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

I know you won't get it because like many outside-the-beltway nobodies y'all like to move the goal posts to fit your narrative...

clarice feldman

Well, there's that, too, enlightened..

sbw

Charlie: The old black dog

Yeah. The noggin is a double-edged sword. I recommend Marx Brothers movies. Got to fight fire with laughter.

matt

Maybe Panetta can start shutting the CIA down and transferring its responsibilities elsewhere.

In the intelligence world, sometimes the victories remain secret, but the history of CIA has repeatedly been one of abject failure. And yet they all seem to keep their jobs. There has been a serious breakdown in the management, mission, and thinking at CIA.

bgates

I greatly enjoyed that Guardian column. It holds out the hope that Obama will be hated for doing the right thing. Win-win.

Is anyone else stunned that the tech nerds at Mozilla haven't replaced the red underline marking "Obama" as a spelling error with something more grand?

Sue

http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-very-large-blog/>Come on folks, we are running 2nd behind Bitch PHD. Vote, vote, vote! Make JOM the best very large blog of the year!

Sue

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/05/showdown-senate-rejects-burriss-certificate-of-appointment/>Hot Air has the latest on Burris. Popcorn. Peanuts. Get your popcorn, peanuts!

Thomas Collins

I voted for JOM, Sue. Now, under the rules, I have to wait 24 hours unless I can find another computer. Is that how it goes?

Pal2Pal (Sara)

The more things change, the more they stay the same:

Liberal Blogosphere Duped By 3-Year-Old 'Gaza Bombing Video'

Pal2Pal (Sara)

BitchPhD? Never heard of them. Come on JOMers. Vote!

Sue

Thomas,

That's what the rules say. And if they find out you cheated, they disqualify us.

MayBee

Oh, this makes me think of GMax and JMax.

PDinDetroit

Can't wait to hear someone ask Zero:

"If you could make the water recede and the planet begin to heal, how come you couldn't stop Cyclone Nargis?"

The answer: There can only be one God Scapegoat President at one time.

LUN

spyluvsit

out of the box

The CIA got rid of Jesus back in the 90s 'and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make ye free.' Maybe luciferian dems that report to Congress were using.

LU^

RichatUF

clarice-

Szady, good grief, and that trial is still pending? Surprised. Wonder how much damage he'll be able to do at Perot Systems?

He did a real bang up job in letting Berger get away with his crimes too. Wonder what it was that was so important that Justice could look the other way, Berger get a slap on the wrist, and everyone else whistle past the construction site?

PeterUK

TC,Seems that way,I just get kicked on to the results page.
We need a techie.

Rick Ballard

"Is that how it goes?"

Well, removing all cookies didn't work for me - maybe bgates can find a democratic solution?

MayBee

Lucifer!
I like it that the LU^ goes to "Spirit in the Sky".

Enlightened

I voted! Too bad we can't re-route some Axelbots directly to the JOM button in the link.....

Neo
On Dec. 19, 2008. at 2 p.m., the New York-based Alavi Foundation, which supports Iranian causes, contributed between $25,000 and $50,000 to the William J. Clinton Foundation. This can be best described as the ultimate chutzpah, for on the very same day, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York indicted the president of the Alavi Foundation, Farshid Jahedi, "on a charge of obstruction of justice for allegedly destroying documents required to be produced under a grand jury subpoena concerning the Alavi Foundation's relationship with Bank Melli Iran and the ownership of a Manhattan office building."
Rick Ballard

How often do you suppose we should highlight the VOTE JOM site? Every thirty comments or so? (this is 156)

Pofarmer

Just heard where Obama is planning on sending an additional 30k troops in to Afghanistan and how the training camps in Northern Pakistan need cleaned out. Is this the start of a new Johnson administration?

Did we learn nothing from the Russians? How are we gonna resupply troops in Afghanistan with a hostile Pakistan??

Enlightened

Obama is planning on sending troops? I thought was GWB's j.o.b.

Elliott

Indeed, MayBee. Those posts (and the pseudonyms—I particularly enjoyed the one on the 3:59 p.m. post) are usually entertaining. Is it substantial talent or something else "substantial?"

Sue

Rick,

We could include it with every post for those who just drop by.

http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-very-large-blog/>Vote JOM

RichatUF

Pofarmer-

New Johnson Administration: Yes. I'm not sure Obama is going to send that number to Afghanistan though. His friends in Iran and Pakistan would probably blanche and Afghanistan's problems are different than Iraq.

Learn from the Russians? His team probably learned quite a bit, but probably not in the way you think or in a way that would be helpful.

How are we gonna resupply troops in Afghanistan with a hostile Pakistan? Oh, you are under the impression that Obama or his Administration wants to win in Afghanistan.

Sue

Tom could post it at the top of the page. I mean, how cool would best very large blog look after 2006 man of the year? We need to work this thing...braggin' rights and all for dear leader!

tesoro

>>> Oh, it's you, Tess..and which personality are you know adopting?

Who's Tess? "Personality"? tesoro is a moniker, clarice, like any of the several you've used and use over the years.

Yes, there is "innocent until proven guilty." No one claimed Rosen or Weissman is guilty, but he stands accused and is awaiting a long-delayed trial. Spying against the US is pretty serious, even among folks who may routinely broadbrush sedition charges against Harry Reid and Barack Obama. And sometimes there is more to the legal process than simply claiming the existence 'nothingburgers' and 'kerfuffles' by blogged fiat.

By the way, I didn't walk into the middle of you all discussing how to delete cookies and cheat to win an internet election, did I?

Surely none of you good people would stoop to "freep" a vote in order to unfairly promote or win something undeserved. Why not just win on your own without cheating?

clarice feldman

"Wonder how much damage he'll be able to do at Perot Systems?"
He lasted there for a very short while--IIRC a few months.
He know runs some martial arts school in Florida.

glenda

Naming Panetta shines the light on how he plans on treating the "intelligence services"--like Gorelick, Holder (Reno was just a statue)..with a lawbook-passing US civil rights to all who plot to kill us. Panetta was a quick choice, just a good ole' democrat to fill space-look for another one for Commerce, now. This decision was probably made by Rahm or Podesta. Obama has no idea what he's doing, except in community organizing and smoking.But then again, they didn't even notify Feinstein about the choice. Doesn't look like his team is communicating at the level needed to be 1/10th of the President George W was.
And DoT---oh,balls! What else is there left to say?
Narciso, looks like the Russians know who to show respect to, after all!
Jane, good luck tomorrow!
Charlie--I've (we) missed you. I hope the black dog is gone for good.

Sue

Wow! NBC has banned Ann Coulter, cable and network. Now that is news, my friends. Via drudge.

clarice

tess--I'd stop while I was ahead if I were you-

Sue

By the way, I didn't walk into the middle of you all discussing how to delete cookies and cheat to win an internet election, did I?

You could see that? OMG! We thought it was invisible to the trolls. ::eyeroll::

Enlightened

"By the way, I didn't walk into the middle of you all discussing how to delete cookies and cheat to win an internet election, did I?"

No - as usual you can't comprehend WTF you read....

And BTW - Innocent Until Proven Guilty is exactly that. No nuance, no gray area.

Enlightened

Sue - That's because AC ripped Keef Old-Dumb-Man a new one in her most recent.

Kind of like Clarice ripping on Tessie - they all go away crying like wittle babies.

Thomas Collins

I won't cheat, Sue and PeterUK. I realize that cheating in current elections is limited to Minnesota officials who are Franken supporters.

Sue

Enlightened,

They banned her for life! LOL.

Rick Ballard

For those who wish to track the source of any probable cheating:

JOM traffic

Lefty dump "leader" of the moment traffic.

Enlightened

Sue - Just more "Messiah Madness" - Like Chaco said higher up - it's gonna be a long 4 years.

We've even got bored Nobodies coming over to pick fights with Our Lady Of The Pistola for no reason other than to show off their Hopey Changeyness and promote Obama Chaplin-itis as the New Direction.

RichatUF

Sue, those bastards at BitchPhD are kicking our ass. They've got a link as the top thread.

Enlightened

NBC - Nothing But Crap, banning AC for life is so hilarious on so many levels....

Priceless.

Sue

This is the blog we are up against?

My boyfriend The Connoiseur is snoring with his feet on my lap, I'm listening to old TAL podcasts, and all's right in my selfish little corner of the world.

Good lord! Vote. Vote. Vote. Pass the word.

boris

Spying against the US is pretty serious

Should the NYT be worried?

Sue

Rich,

I know. Dear Leader needs to show up and put one up for us. In the meantime. Beg, plead, whatever to get JOM on top!

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Why not just win on your own without cheating?

Maybe we are just leveling the playing field by learning from how the left does things.

Sue

Enlightened,

A comment at Ace's made me laugh. He can't stand Ann Coulter but good lord, they put Rachel Maddow on and ban Coulter? ::grin:: Great point! They've gone left at MSNBC and are proud of it, but looks to me like they should leave the public airwaves out of it.

Rick Ballard

Sue - What about going with V-JOM-LUN (V for vote and VICTORY>? That way everyone can play.

clarice

You know how her detractors always make a big deal about Coulter's Adam's apple? Did you see Caroline's?

Enlightened

Uh, yeah - right. B-Phd? Whoever heard of that piece of crap?

I'd rather take 2nd.

Really, using a young girl to flip the bird on your front page is so undignified, yet pathetically juvenile.

Cecil Turner

It was a holding action, like Thermopylae was for the Spartans followed by the battle of Platea.

Yes, and nicely illustrates the point about using a jus ad bellum argument for a jus in bello decision. There was nothing futile about the Texas war of independence, hence the objection doesn't apply. The idea of a forlorn hope being a war crime is the result of applying an inapplicable criterion.

AT's involvement with Rosen is more than mildy shocking to us nobodies outside the beltway.

But Obama's involvement with Ayers provokes nothing but yawns? Don't look now, but your selective outrage is showing.

Who's Tess? "Personality"? tesoro is a moniker, clarice, like any of the several you've used and use over the years.

Yeah, whatever. I've noticed people who use their names tend to be a bit more collegial (or at least accountable). Pseudonymous sniping does not impress.

narciso

Ah now I remember Clarice, Rosen and the other guy who received information from Larry Franklin on Iranian operations in Iraq; particularly in the Kurdish zone, Franklin's also the one, who 'apochryphally' gave the broken codes to Chalabi, who told the Iranians; there was an even a murder mystery by Sean Flannery/David Hagberg who should have known better. How did that investigation end by the way. But with the likes of Rock Creek Partner's consultant (tied to the Alamoudis), just like Tom Kean, and Henry Kissinger, the sandbagging of US operations in Iraq, which probably contributed to the deaths of one of the greatest polymath, anti Wahhabi diplomat Hume Horan, who I came to know through Robert Kaplan's the Arabists, who by all rights should have gotten the Baghdad slot. Rock Creek's Genokowski (sic) was on the New Republic's list of thirty most powerful people in the new order. Was this China case, as bad as WuTai Chin, who spied for twenty five years, until discovered?

That's just off the top of my head, We have't heard much from the virtual Iranian
'fellow traveller' Sy Hersh, last seen briefing the Iranians in very Peter Arnett
fashion about what he knew about US operations against that country. Well I guess his work at undermining the US is done for now. So's that weasel, (it's an insult to weasels) William Arkin, who slandered General Boykin, veteran of Desert One, Colombia and too other operations onthe world of a Aidid henchman. He wrote
a book, Code Names, revealing every covert
operation he had ever come across. Than he
had the nerve to say that US soldiers shouldn't expect support because of what they do (in Iraq and Afghanistan)The animus
is coming back with retsin,

Rick Ballard

"Did you see Caroline's?"

To tell you the truth, I never get past the fetlocks. I'm pretty sure she has loose tendons.

Dave
Did you see Caroline's?
I thought that was a wattle.
clarice

Arkin, narciso..Another weasael from the past!!!!!!!!!

Enlightened

"Maybe we are just leveling the playing field"

I guess NBC just leveled the field for Ann Coulter didn't they? That's the way Tessie and the leftards play - they take their ball and go home when the playing field gets a little bumpy.

Too funny!


PeterUK

How on earth did Tossero mange to conflate Rosen and AT with the President elect and a self confessed attempted mass murderer Ayers?
Some kind of warped value system there.

tesororo

>>> Why not just win on your own without cheating?

Maybe we are just leveling the playing field by learning from how the left does things.

Knowing how "the left" is routinely accused here, this reads like an admission of blatant cheating by the JOM group, as well as your tacit approval. Your group gets curiouser and curiouser.

clarice, between the men accused of spying against the US and this bunch of gleeful cheats, you hang with too cagey a crowd.

clarice

Tess is a smart person, a really great writer and a very creative person of whom I was quite fond..She went off the mark sometime ago and it is a shame..I choose to remember her as she was before whatever madness took hold.

clarice

"gleeful cheats"? No. Joking friends, yes.

Enlightened

"To tell you the truth, I never get past the fetlocks. I'm pretty sure she has loose tendons."

My vote for ultimate snark of the day. Brilliant. Here's hoping TM doesn't ban you for life for telling the truth!

Enlightened

"Knowing how "the left" is routinely accused here, this reads like an admission of blatant cheating by the JOM group, as well as your tacit approval."

You really don't know much of anything, Clarice's kindness towards you aside.

The commenter initiated their remark with "Maybe".

Just as Innocent Until Proven Guilty means exactly that, "Maybe" means - MAYBE. Not tacit, not blatant, not guilty.

The left is routinely, justly accused of being idiots. You make their case rather handily.

clarice

The Israelis are still refusing to admit foregin journos to Gaza and Melanie Phillips reports she's seeing an amazing outpouring of support for israel this time. Coincidence? I think not.

PeterUK

"Tess is a smart person, a really great writer and a very creative person of whom I was quite fond."

OK Miz Clarice,we won't leave no marks.

narciso

It's kind of funny that they ban Anne, they really want to be the slavish, desperately dull network, even with all the propaganda O'Reilly still 'steals their lunch' I used to flash by their, but the fulsome praise is just too much. The wardrobe comment about Michelle and the unstated admission about the anchor's ahem propensity toward Barack is probably the pretext.

Yes, Glenda it shows exactly how little he cared about intelligence, but we already knew that; the sad thing is they didn't.
The Russians respect her, you don't get a nickname like the Okhonitsa 'the Huntress'
by accident; one of their papers.Commersant,
even pointed out how truly biased the US campaign, when the Russians are telling you this, you better listen. This Panetta pick must have them howling with laughter, the same is true for Chavez, Ahmadinejad, well you get the idea; but the joke is on us.

If a battle is fought for a noble cause, it can't be a war crime. The Alamo seemed bleak
(well actually was for a time) but it inspired a nation. My country of origin's national anthem has the line, 'to die for the country is to live' (forever) Narciso Lopez, Jose Marti, all are memorialized for
that effort. One recalls that the battle of Mogadishu "Black Hawk Down" was a modern analog of these types of efforts

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