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February 11, 2009


Mark O

Safer than beer. Now there's a slogan! Obama: safer than beer.


Phelps is a disgrace. If he doesn't move on to harder drugs pretty soon, he'll never be elected President.


we're uh, here to like, uh, protest this whole thing, man......it's totally messed up, dude and like...........uh, what were we here for?

Mark O

By the way, just how much weed does one have to smoke to think it is safer than beer. If it is, what's the point.

Thomas Collins

Hypocrisy and heroes are essential to the health of every body politic, even so-called post-modern body politics (I say "so-called" because folks who classify things as post-modern today are apparently unaware that far from being post-modern, we are not even out of our diapers in terms of dealing with what the Enlightenment has wrought; but I digress). Phelps has his endorsements not only because of his considerable athletic skills, but because we common folks need heroes to emulate, even though all heroes have their human foibles. I hope Phelps learns this and practices discretion the next time he tokes up. Am I endorsing hypocrisy? In a measured amount, you betcha! I can well understand the frustration of pot users who believe that pot should be legal. To them I say this: you may think our political processes are far from perfect, but they beat most other forms of governmental processes tried throughout the ages. Use these processes to promote decriminalization. But don't be surprised that those who flaunt the laws on prohibited substance use suffer consequences.


Of course it's safer than beer. How many people die every year of alcohol poisoning after drinking too much beer?

The only people killed by weed had a bale of it fall on their head. Or got killed by cops raiding their house by mistake.


you may think our political processes are far from perfect, but they beat most other forms of governmental processes tried throughout the ages.

Umm.. Do you pay any attention at all to what's happening in this country? Our system used to work, once upon a time, sure, but that's long over.

Thomas Collins

I can understand how you might think that, P, but I respectfully disagree with you. I do pay a modicum of attention not only to what is going on today, but what has gone on in the past. We humans are a fickle lot who live much of our lives in resentment, artifice and intrigue. So it has always been and so it will always be. I would suggest to you that those who went through the various financial panics of the 19th and 20th centuries, the war between the Union and the Confederacy, the paralysis of the last years of the Nixon Administration, and various other difficult times in our history thought that, as you articulated, our system used to work, but that's long over. It's only over, P, if folks such as you give up. Please don't.


Liberty is on the wane. Communism won the Cold War. It's all over but the shouting.

I'm not giving up on this country just yet, but the writing is on the wall. The people DON'T WANT freedom, they are human cattle who just want some hay and a barn from a cradle-to-grave welfare state.

The founders of this country engaged in a noble experiment in limited government. 200 years later, it seems to have failed. Once 50% plus one realize they can vote themselves money, it all comes apart at the seams.

Welcome to the USSA, comrades.


get rid of Pelozi-- worst woman in congress-- what does she do? takes our money & spends it-- her fake smile makes me want to throw up-- GET RID OF HER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE--

God Save Us


Don't complicate beyond reason.

Phelps had the drunken driving problem. Then he had the current marijuana incident.

Kellogg probably decided he was a loose cannon who might do almost anything next.

There is no hypocrisy. (I wish people would use words as defined). He has a pattern of behaviour. Kellogg didn't like the pattern.

IMO they made the right choice.


End of Thread Comparison Test:




Excellent idea, boris. Both these options take me to the top of the current page. I'll try again when it gets even longer.


New End of Thread comparison Test:



The older cid=x stopped working on multipage threads, this newer one seems to work okay.

For example End of Hope is not a Plan


And this news is supposed to effect me how?!

Because, really, I haven't smoked Corn Flakes for years.


Silly, you don't smoke the cornflakes, you bake them in brownies!


Who doesn't smoke cornflakes?

Boris, one thing I know is that scripting languages parse the parameter=value pairs after .html? or .htm?. No idea why a slash or /comments/ would precede that, but it seems pretty clear their system isn't typical. The only reason to have #comments at the end, for example, since # goes to an anchor within a page, is to get down past the actual post and start the page at the comments.

They must be modifying the production release rather than working on a new version.


Ext, I was probably misguided when during testing the ?cid=x started working again so the last thing I tested appeard to "fix" the problem, which actually just went away breifly then came back again.

None of the ?cid=xyz tricks seem to be operational now.


Doesn't work for me, either, now. The other one still does.


OK, now both option 1's take me only to the first page and both option 2's take me to the end. Thanks, b.

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