Now Consent Is The Highest Form Of Patriotism?

Here is one more for the "If Bush did this sort of thing Libs leapt from tall buildings" file:

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats reached an agreement with Republican moderates on Friday to pare a huge economic recovery measure, clearing the way for approval of a package that President Obama said was urgently needed in light of mounting job losses.

The deal, announced on the Senate floor, was a result of two days of tense negotiations and political theater. Mr. Obama dispatched his chief of staff to Capitol Hill to help conclude the talks and reassure senators in his own party, and he called three key Republicans to applaud them for their patriotism.

...Mr. Obama called Ms. Collins and Mr. Specter, as well as Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, another Republican expected to support the deal, to acknowledge they were acting against pressure from their party and, one official said, to thank them for their patriotism in helping advance the bill at a critical time.

Hmm, bill opponents are not patriotic?  Or are less patriotic?  I know libs will line up to fret about whether Obama ought to be implicitly questioning anyone's patriotism merely for opposing a particular Administration policy. 

HELP:  I would be curious to see analogous examples from the Bush era.  I recall the "We aren't questioning your patriotism, we are questioning your judgment" call and response and I recall a paucity of actual examples of patriotism being questioned (don't bore us with Max Cleland), but my memory is not what it used to be.

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Comments

[Topsecretk9]

Mark Hemmingway has a post up at the corner noting no one apparently knows the full price tag of the crap sandwich II they are hastily trying to cram down our throats - media and the nitwits voting on it

I'm dusting off "twisted" and "cherry-picked" - Obama "twisted the numbers" and "cherry-picked" and lied and duped congress into voting for this monstrosity.

[Topsecretk9]

JimDeMint

Just when we had the chance to stop this massive spending bill, two Republicans sold us out. I'll keep fighting. Jim
43 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

[Pal2Pal (Sara)]

Biden Urges Passage of Stimulus Despite Voter Backlash

[bgates]

I vote for, President Bush declared that opponents of so-called immigration reform, "don't want to do what's right for America."

[Plutarch]

How could the party of no ideas (R) possibly stop the party of bad ideas (D)? Killing this bill is easy if they (R) had a better idea of what to do. How about printing a fresh Trillion and dumping all of it into Social Security and Medicare, then suspending all employer and employee contributions to the program for three years of so. That resets the cash clock on SS/Medicare and gives citizens instant cash and employers an instant and much needed break.

What's totally insane about the bad idea party: it wants to give all the stimulus money to corporations and let it trickle down. A good idea party would at least fight to see the monetary benefit go directly to average citizens and not corporations... especially the tax exempt ones.

Every corporation goes broke. That's how institutions die a natural death.

You can't build a vibrant economy by remunerating zombies and parasites run by pathological narcissists and societal predators.

But what better way to recapitalize the Alinskycrat power base.

[Mark Turner]

Political narcissism on Obama's part -- all presidents have had their share of it, but Obama seems to have gone back for seconds...

[Plutarch]

Just like that forgotten character in the first Star Wars.

O B Wannagonnabe.

The first intergalactic post turtle.

[Pal2Pal (Sara)]

What Got Cut in the Compromise

[Chris]

So he has questioned the patriotism of everyone who didn't support the crap sandwich then? Guess Those 11 Dem's in the house will be surprised to learn they've been impugned as unpatriotic. It's gonna be a rough ride. Buckle up.

[Pofarmer]

From the comments at WSJ.

Our country has become what our ancestors fled.

Unfortunately, we don't have anywhere to go.

[Jane]

Well we need to find some place. I'm about to start packing.

[Rick Ballard]

"You can't build a vibrant economy by remunerating zombies and parasites run by pathological narcissists and societal predators."

That's correct. ZombieMotors and Zombiegroup should be dead. They betrayed the trust of their shareholders and were absolutely derelict in their fiduciary duty to debt holders. The same can be said for most of the Wall Street lice lining the curb with their begging bowls. I find it extraordinarily amusing to read arguments concerning limitations on executive pay for beggars. The theory that good people will be lost to competitors is worth a guffaw all by itself. The 'good people' are working for companies that don't deserve to even exist. If their competitors aren't abject failures at their core tasks then they deserve the benefit of employing 'good people' so that they may better serve their shareholders and fulfill their fiduciary duties.

"But mom, everybody is doing it." doesn't work for most kids and it shouldn't work for financial institutions. The idea of tumbleweeds blowing down a deserted Wall or Broad Street just doesn't bother me a bit. Nothing is done there that can't be done elsewhere by better people.

[Extraneus]

This thing is costing over $3,000 per American -- $12,000 for every family of four -- at a time when they can least afford it.

These numbers need to be communicated in a way that people can understand and relate to. Nobody can fathom one trillion dollars.

The Democrats, like videotaped policemen stealing DVD players from the New Orleans Walmart after Katrina, are simply looting the treasury.

[WestWright]

Yap, the Looters won this one...time to pay them off, what would be a fair wage for our public servants/Looters?

[pagar]

I stand with my Senator DeMint. I think the thing to do now is keep sending messages to Chm Steele. Republicans who sided with the President should not be rewarded in anyway. I'm also sending a Thank You Message to Sen DeMint. I might even throw in one for Sen Graham, even through he sides against us sometimes, he stood firm on this issue.

[Tina]

Pager:

Do you have an email address for Steele?

[BobS]

well, its not a political victory for obama as he was only able to strongarm 3 vulnerable gop senators. i agree with your pagar in that steele needs to be the face of the gop....along with senators like demint and coburn...and please throw in eric cantor from the house. it doesn't take an economist - and some 200 signed on in opposition - to see that this aint no stinkin stimulus. is it that dems think the economy is going to turn anyway and they sought to payoff and solidify their allies? or was this just an example of leadership that obama mistakenly left the details to pelosi and got burned by bis own legislative inexperience? or is it a third reason - one even more frightening - that dems really believe this is a stimulus?

[BobS]

will obama actually be able to wrest the census from commerce? pretty good bait and switch on gregg, eh? if gregg were a man of principal, he's let obama know he will resign if this happens. at any rate, if the census is run in the west wing, there will be no congressional oversight, right?

LUN

[centralcal]

Tina: [email protected]

[Tina]

Thank you centralcal -- message has been sent.

[Extraneus]

None of the above, I'm afraid, BobS. I don't think they care about stimulation or recovery at all. The crisis is too good to waste, as we know, and if they can keep a crisis mode going for four years -- and people afraid about their futures or, even better, in actual economic dispair -- they'll be able to implement all of their liberal socialist dreams. They already have the votes of the lower classes. If they can force more people down there, all the better.

More money for government, demonization of entrepeneurs, control of formerly private industries, it's all part of a plan.

[PD]

And the Russians Stayed, Nestor T. Carbonell, p59:

During its first one hundred days, the Castro regime rocked the island with whirlwind intensity. It purged tainted or potentially dangerous government and army officials, reorganized departments, occupied properties, froze bank accounts, suspended or revoked contracts, abrogated laws -- in short, drastically changed the institutional landscape of the country. Nothing seemed solid enough to withstand the revolutionary turmoil. But during this initial period of sweeping reforms, the new rulers did not exceed the limits of political control; nor did they seem to cross the point of no return. Perhaps, we thought, they would take a more pragmatic approach to social and economic matters. After all, Castro himself had repeatedly rejected the "extremes of both capitalism and communism." That was the hope that flickered at home, where relatives and friends gathered around the television set to listen to Castro's midnight utterances -- a few hours before they became law.

By April 1959, reports of creeping communism started to alarm us ...

It's these kinds of parallels that lead me to think Amused Bystander is anything but hyperbolic in his warnings about what's happening.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

will obama actually be able to wrest the census from commerce? pretty good bait and switch on gregg, eh? if gregg were a man of principal, he's let obama know he will resign if this happens. at any rate, if the census is run in the west wing, there will be no congressional oversight, right?

IMO, BobS this is the most disturbing and potentially the most important thing so far. If porkulus blows up in their faces it will be clear to all.
This census thing however is the kind of corrupt, under the radar, power grab that was attempted by the hicks from Arkansas, mostly ineffectually. In the hands of a polished Chicago gangster it's a lot more dangerous.

[glenda]

Ignatz- I think I missed congratulating you on your win yesterday!! The personal ones are the saddest but most satisfying, I'm sure!

[bad]

New Hampshire's budget issues:

Not only is there an estimated $500 million shortfall in revenues to pay for the next two years, there's also the unresolved deficit of $75 million or more for this fiscal year. Added up in round numbers, that's a $600 million problem.

So how much is New Hampshire getting from Porkulus in exchange for Gregg's non vote?

LUN

[Neo]

"The tainted One" has his head up his ass so far that he thinks it OK to take from Peter to give to Obama.

Another example of the "Peter Obama Principle".

[Pal2Pal (Sara)]

Just a heads up. This thread has an Instalink that was repeated on Twitter.

[Plutarch]

True Believers see a great conductor dictating the performance of a magnificent symphony.

I see a lonely Potus Turtle stuck on the post top with his neck stuck out and his appendages flailing in the wind.

[mark l.]

I heard the deposit on the 'mission accomplished' banner for monday nite's speech is non-refundable.

[Phil]

Pofarmer -
Surely there's an unmapped valley in Colorado somewhere!

[bad]

The Link under name has a list of the items cut from Porkulus last night.

I don't see the $2,000,000,000 zero emissions plant, who's technology is obsolete, located in Illinois, on the list of cuts.

Did I miss it or did Blago's earmark survive?

[kim]

Don't it always seems to go, you don't know what you got 'til it's gone.
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[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

Ignatz- I think I missed congratulating you on your win yesterday!! The personal ones are the saddest but most satisfying, I'm sure!

Thanks very much glenda.
You hit the nail on the head. Very satisfying to put a stop to legalized thievery, but at the same sad to watch family members waste their lives on petty vendettas and lies.

BTW, with all the legal stuff I somehow missed what it is you've been having a hard time with. Whatever it is, I hope it is resolved or on the way.

[JeanE]

So, is he now officially questioning Senator McCain's patriotism since McCain is not supporting the stiumulus package?

[bad]

Excellent question, JeanE.

[matt]

how does one defeat Specter, Snowe, and Collins? To have their names as Republicans associated with this abomination of a bill, and the media calling it bipartisanship, is one of the largest loads of manure I've seen.Can someone post their home addresses so that we can deliver a truckload to each of them? Maybe we could do it on the Capitol steps instead.

The logic of this bill simply escapes me.

[matt]

by the way, did anyone notice that Congress pushed the deadline for digital TV back...Sprint wins with an insider at the White House.....Change you can believe in.

[bad]

Obama signed legislation that discriminates against 84 percent of U.S. construction workers who choose not to join a labor union. The companies they work for will not be allowed to bid on government jobs.

That's a mere 25,000 companies.

I guess O hates white males -- who didn't vote for him.

And loves unions -- who shoveled lots of money into his campaign.

LUN

[bad]

did anyone notice that Congress pushed the deadline for digital TV back...Sprint wins with an insider at the White House.....Change you can believe in.

Everyone I have the chance to point it out to.....

[bad]

Michael Steele's response in an update:

“President Obama’s executive order will drive up the cost of government at a time when we should be doing everything possible to save taxpayer dollars. Federal contracts should go to the businesses that can offer taxpayers the best value – not just the unions who supported the Democrats’ campaigns last year. Quietly signing executive orders to payback campaign backers undermines Obama promise to change Washington. It is a disappointment for Americans hoping for more transparency and less politics as usual in Washington.”

By the way, the previous post said 25,000 companies were affected. That figure is incorrect. The actual figure is much larger. 25,000 companies are represented in just one organization of builders.

[matt]

Chesterton wrote in 1924,

"the whole world has divided itself into conservatives and progressives. The business of progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."

sound familiar?

[Joe Schmo]

Bush said, "if you don't support the war in Iraq you are unpatriotic and should be deported."

Ok, he didn't say it, but if the NY Times, Dan rather, and the rest of the joker media can make things up, why can't I?

[Tully]

Of course, dissent is only patriotic when the other side is on top. When you're on top....

[Antimedia]

Well, not that it's worth a cup of spit, but here's what I sent submitted to Snowe, Collins and Specter on their contact forms.

Maam, how can you, in good conscience, burden my grandchildren and great-grandchildren with another trillion dollars in debt in the name of "stimulus"? Do you seriously think that America will ever be able to pay this debt back in any meaningful way?

I guess it doesn't matter to you, since the bills will come due long after you are dead.

I have never been more disgusted with my country than I am now. Congress has completely abandoned sanity and sold US down the river for personal gain.

[joe]

Why do you folks hate America so much?