Here is one more for the "If Bush did this sort of thing Libs leapt from tall buildings" file:
WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats reached an agreement with Republican moderates on Friday to pare a huge economic recovery measure, clearing the way for approval of a package that President Obama said was urgently needed in light of mounting job losses.
...Mr. Obama called Ms. Collins and Mr. Specter, as well as Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, another Republican expected to support the deal, to acknowledge they were acting against pressure from their party and, one official said, to thank them for their patriotism in helping advance the bill at a critical time.
Hmm, bill opponents are not patriotic? Or are less patriotic? I know libs will line up to fret about whether Obama ought to be implicitly questioning anyone's patriotism merely for opposing a particular Administration policy.
HELP: I would be curious to see analogous examples from the Bush era. I recall the "We aren't questioning your patriotism, we are questioning your judgment" call and response and I recall a paucity of actual examples of patriotism being questioned (don't bore us with Max Cleland), but my memory is not what it used to be.
Mark Hemmingway has a post up at the corner noting no one apparently knows the full price tag of the crap sandwich II they are hastily trying to cram down our throats - media and the nitwits voting on it
I'm dusting off "twisted" and "cherry-picked" - Obama "twisted the numbers" and "cherry-picked" and lied and duped congress into voting for this monstrosity.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | February 07, 2009 at 12:50 AM
JimDeMint
Just when we had the chance to stop this massive spending bill, two Republicans sold us out. I'll keep fighting. Jim
43 minutes ago from TwitterBerry
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | February 07, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Biden Urges Passage of Stimulus Despite Voter Backlash
Posted by: Pal2Pal (Sara) | February 07, 2009 at 01:18 AM
I vote for, President Bush declared that opponents of so-called immigration reform, "don't want to do what's right for America."
Posted by: bgates | February 07, 2009 at 01:46 AM
How could the party of no ideas (R) possibly stop the party of bad ideas (D)? Killing this bill is easy if they (R) had a better idea of what to do. How about printing a fresh Trillion and dumping all of it into Social Security and Medicare, then suspending all employer and employee contributions to the program for three years of so. That resets the cash clock on SS/Medicare and gives citizens instant cash and employers an instant and much needed break.
What's totally insane about the bad idea party: it wants to give all the stimulus money to corporations and let it trickle down. A good idea party would at least fight to see the monetary benefit go directly to average citizens and not corporations... especially the tax exempt ones.
Every corporation goes broke. That's how institutions die a natural death.
You can't build a vibrant economy by remunerating zombies and parasites run by pathological narcissists and societal predators.
But what better way to recapitalize the Alinskycrat power base.
Posted by: Plutarch | February 07, 2009 at 02:05 AM
Political narcissism on Obama's part -- all presidents have had their share of it, but Obama seems to have gone back for seconds...
Posted by: Mark Turner | February 07, 2009 at 02:07 AM
Just like that forgotten character in the first Star Wars.
O B Wannagonnabe.
The first intergalactic post turtle.
Posted by: Plutarch | February 07, 2009 at 02:16 AM
What Got Cut in the Compromise
Posted by: Pal2Pal (Sara) | February 07, 2009 at 02:23 AM
So he has questioned the patriotism of everyone who didn't support the crap sandwich then? Guess Those 11 Dem's in the house will be surprised to learn they've been impugned as unpatriotic. It's gonna be a rough ride. Buckle up.
Posted by: Chris | February 07, 2009 at 02:33 AM
From the comments at WSJ.
Our country has become what our ancestors fled.
Unfortunately, we don't have anywhere to go.
Posted by: Pofarmer | February 07, 2009 at 07:12 AM
Well we need to find some place. I'm about to start packing.
Posted by: Jane | February 07, 2009 at 08:11 AM
"You can't build a vibrant economy by remunerating zombies and parasites run by pathological narcissists and societal predators."
That's correct. ZombieMotors and Zombiegroup should be dead. They betrayed the trust of their shareholders and were absolutely derelict in their fiduciary duty to debt holders. The same can be said for most of the Wall Street lice lining the curb with their begging bowls. I find it extraordinarily amusing to read arguments concerning limitations on executive pay for beggars. The theory that good people will be lost to competitors is worth a guffaw all by itself. The 'good people' are working for companies that don't deserve to even exist. If their competitors aren't abject failures at their core tasks then they deserve the benefit of employing 'good people' so that they may better serve their shareholders and fulfill their fiduciary duties.
"But mom, everybody is doing it." doesn't work for most kids and it shouldn't work for financial institutions. The idea of tumbleweeds blowing down a deserted Wall or Broad Street just doesn't bother me a bit. Nothing is done there that can't be done elsewhere by better people.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 07, 2009 at 08:23 AM
This thing is costing over $3,000 per American -- $12,000 for every family of four -- at a time when they can least afford it.
These numbers need to be communicated in a way that people can understand and relate to. Nobody can fathom one trillion dollars.
The Democrats, like videotaped policemen stealing DVD players from the New Orleans Walmart after Katrina, are simply looting the treasury.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 07, 2009 at 08:28 AM
Yap, the Looters won this one...time to pay them off, what would be a fair wage for our public servants/Looters?
Posted by: WestWright | February 07, 2009 at 09:26 AM
I stand with my Senator DeMint. I think the thing to do now is keep sending messages to Chm Steele. Republicans who sided with the President should not be rewarded in anyway. I'm also sending a Thank You Message to Sen DeMint. I might even throw in one for Sen Graham, even through he sides against us sometimes, he stood firm on this issue.
Posted by: pagar | February 07, 2009 at 09:37 AM
Pager:
Do you have an email address for Steele?
Posted by: Tina | February 07, 2009 at 09:49 AM
well, its not a political victory for obama as he was only able to strongarm 3 vulnerable gop senators. i agree with your pagar in that steele needs to be the face of the gop....along with senators like demint and coburn...and please throw in eric cantor from the house. it doesn't take an economist - and some 200 signed on in opposition - to see that this aint no stinkin stimulus. is it that dems think the economy is going to turn anyway and they sought to payoff and solidify their allies? or was this just an example of leadership that obama mistakenly left the details to pelosi and got burned by bis own legislative inexperience? or is it a third reason - one even more frightening - that dems really believe this is a stimulus?
Posted by: BobS | February 07, 2009 at 09:59 AM
will obama actually be able to wrest the census from commerce? pretty good bait and switch on gregg, eh? if gregg were a man of principal, he's let obama know he will resign if this happens. at any rate, if the census is run in the west wing, there will be no congressional oversight, right?
LUN
Posted by: BobS | February 07, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Tina: [email protected]
Posted by: centralcal | February 07, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Thank you centralcal -- message has been sent.
Posted by: Tina | February 07, 2009 at 10:39 AM
None of the above, I'm afraid, BobS. I don't think they care about stimulation or recovery at all. The crisis is too good to waste, as we know, and if they can keep a crisis mode going for four years -- and people afraid about their futures or, even better, in actual economic dispair -- they'll be able to implement all of their liberal socialist dreams. They already have the votes of the lower classes. If they can force more people down there, all the better.
More money for government, demonization of entrepeneurs, control of formerly private industries, it's all part of a plan.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 07, 2009 at 11:57 AM
And the Russians Stayed, Nestor T. Carbonell, p59:
It's these kinds of parallels that lead me to think Amused Bystander is anything but hyperbolic in his warnings about what's happening.
Posted by: PD | February 07, 2009 at 12:43 PM
will obama actually be able to wrest the census from commerce? pretty good bait and switch on gregg, eh? if gregg were a man of principal, he's let obama know he will resign if this happens. at any rate, if the census is run in the west wing, there will be no congressional oversight, right?
IMO, BobS this is the most disturbing and potentially the most important thing so far. If porkulus blows up in their faces it will be clear to all.
This census thing however is the kind of corrupt, under the radar, power grab that was attempted by the hicks from Arkansas, mostly ineffectually. In the hands of a polished Chicago gangster it's a lot more dangerous.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | February 07, 2009 at 01:06 PM
Ignatz- I think I missed congratulating you on your win yesterday!! The personal ones are the saddest but most satisfying, I'm sure!
Posted by: glenda | February 07, 2009 at 01:57 PM
New Hampshire's budget issues:
So how much is New Hampshire getting from Porkulus in exchange for Gregg's non vote?
LUN
Posted by: bad | February 07, 2009 at 04:58 PM
"The tainted One" has his head up his ass so far that he thinks it OK to take from Peter to give to Obama.
Another example of the "
PeterObama Principle".Posted by: Neo | February 07, 2009 at 04:58 PM
Just a heads up. This thread has an Instalink that was repeated on Twitter.
Posted by: Pal2Pal (Sara) | February 07, 2009 at 05:26 PM
True Believers see a great conductor dictating the performance of a magnificent symphony.
I see a lonely Potus Turtle stuck on the post top with his neck stuck out and his appendages flailing in the wind.
Posted by: Plutarch | February 07, 2009 at 05:29 PM
I heard the deposit on the 'mission accomplished' banner for monday nite's speech is non-refundable.
Posted by: mark l. | February 07, 2009 at 05:30 PM
Pofarmer -
Surely there's an unmapped valley in Colorado somewhere!
Posted by: Phil | February 07, 2009 at 05:33 PM
The Link under name has a list of the items cut from Porkulus last night.
I don't see the $2,000,000,000 zero emissions plant, who's technology is obsolete, located in Illinois, on the list of cuts.
Did I miss it or did Blago's earmark survive?
Posted by: bad | February 07, 2009 at 05:36 PM
Don't it always seems to go, you don't know what you got 'til it's gone.
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Posted by: kim | February 07, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Ignatz- I think I missed congratulating you on your win yesterday!! The personal ones are the saddest but most satisfying, I'm sure!
Thanks very much glenda.
You hit the nail on the head. Very satisfying to put a stop to legalized thievery, but at the same sad to watch family members waste their lives on petty vendettas and lies.
BTW, with all the legal stuff I somehow missed what it is you've been having a hard time with. Whatever it is, I hope it is resolved or on the way.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | February 07, 2009 at 06:03 PM
So, is he now officially questioning Senator McCain's patriotism since McCain is not supporting the stiumulus package?
Posted by: JeanE | February 07, 2009 at 06:14 PM
Excellent question, JeanE.
Posted by: bad | February 07, 2009 at 06:24 PM
how does one defeat Specter, Snowe, and Collins? To have their names as Republicans associated with this abomination of a bill, and the media calling it bipartisanship, is one of the largest loads of manure I've seen.Can someone post their home addresses so that we can deliver a truckload to each of them? Maybe we could do it on the Capitol steps instead.
The logic of this bill simply escapes me.
Posted by: matt | February 07, 2009 at 06:31 PM
by the way, did anyone notice that Congress pushed the deadline for digital TV back...Sprint wins with an insider at the White House.....Change you can believe in.
Posted by: matt | February 07, 2009 at 06:34 PM
That's a mere 25,000 companies.
I guess O hates white males -- who didn't vote for him.
And loves unions -- who shoveled lots of money into his campaign.
LUN
Posted by: bad | February 07, 2009 at 06:39 PM
did anyone notice that Congress pushed the deadline for digital TV back...Sprint wins with an insider at the White House.....Change you can believe in.
Everyone I have the chance to point it out to.....
Posted by: bad | February 07, 2009 at 06:41 PM
Michael Steele's response in an update:
By the way, the previous post said 25,000 companies were affected. That figure is incorrect. The actual figure is much larger. 25,000 companies are represented in just one organization of builders.
Posted by: bad | February 07, 2009 at 06:49 PM
Chesterton wrote in 1924,
"the whole world has divided itself into conservatives and progressives. The business of progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."
sound familiar?
Posted by: matt | February 07, 2009 at 06:59 PM
Bush said, "if you don't support the war in Iraq you are unpatriotic and should be deported."
Ok, he didn't say it, but if the NY Times, Dan rather, and the rest of the joker media can make things up, why can't I?
Posted by: Joe Schmo | February 07, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Of course, dissent is only patriotic when the other side is on top. When you're on top....
Posted by: Tully | February 08, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Well, not that it's worth a cup of spit, but here's what I sent submitted to Snowe, Collins and Specter on their contact forms.
Posted by: Antimedia | February 08, 2009 at 04:51 PM
Why do you folks hate America so much?
Posted by: joe | February 09, 2009 at 11:57 AM