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May 12, 2009

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narciso

No one cares, unless it happens in Bagram, Gitmo or Abu Ghraib, he must have figured that out, at some point, He's dead, a toast.

PeterUK

"Or, Dick Cheney strangled him."

Not Cheney's modus operandi.

Danube of Thought

Good time to remember this one from Jefferson, September 20, 1810:

"To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

Screw those people.

clarice

Gosh..and just as Pelosi signalled she was calling him as her character witness.

Danube of Thought

I see Pelosi has yet another version of events. The mind reels.

al-Manhatta

The 2005 Times article claims he was sent to Guantanamo.

Mark Eichenlaub

So this guy said Zarqawi, Shihata and Abu al Masri would be in Baghdad and then later we found out from their OWN documents that that was true and that means this guy is lying about Saddam/Iraq links to al Qaeda?

Does this writer or those flaunting this know or care about the facts?

I may post about this at my site on Saddam, terror...www.regimeofterror.com.

Pofarmer

Does this writer or those flaunting this know or care about the facts?

Uhm, no.

JM Hanes

"I would speculate that he was missing because he was such an embarrassment to the Bush administration," said Tom Malinowski, the head of the Washington office of Human Rights Watch. "He was Exhibit A in the narrative that tortured confessions contributed to the massive intelligence failure that preceded the Iraq war."

This is the first time I've heard that narrative. The pre-Iraq intel narrative was all Cheney all the time. Human Rights Watch may have convinced themselves that torture was the root of all Bush evil, but public recriminations didn't rev up till well after the Mission Accomplished moment. In fact, when the flight suit photos first came out, the left went into a serious tizzy, because they thought Bush would be able to use them to a huge PR advantage in the next election. The worms only really started turning when no WMD turned up and the media-political complex could pretend that the only reason they acquiesced to the BushCo invasion was the threat of an imminent mushroom cloud. The torture narrative took off after Abu Ghraib.

gus

Liberals are weeping over his untimely demise. Pelosi is sending flowers.

bad

Speaking of suicide by hanging, has anyone heard anymore about the FM guy who hung himself in his basement?

narciso

Well he was tortured by the Egyptians, and abandoned to the Libyans, I'm sure something
more than waterboarding, was involved; However, because there were Americans involved, how did he know who Abu Mohammed was. from the Wiki.

clarice

That timeline is exactly right JMH..As for Soros funded Human Rights Watch it is entitled to the same credence we give UN human rights committees. Nothing.

AJB
As for Soros funded Human Rights Watch it is entitled to the same credence we give UN human rights committees. Nothing.
So, I guess we should just ignore that whole situation in Darfur then?
matt

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) has scheduled a public hearing to investigate the waterboarding scandal for Wednesday.

When asked if he, as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee who had been briefed on the enhanced interrogation techniques had ever protested their use he said "it never crossed my mind that it would have made the least bit of difference".

He was briefed. he knew about the waterboarding. And he never said a word. The lack of ethics by these people is stunning on a Soviet of African scale.

matt

Soviet or African

Pofarmer

The lack of ethics by these people is stunning on a Soviet or African scale.

That's their model, what did you expect?

Cecil Turner

So, I guess we should just ignore that whole situation in Darfur then?

HRW is the only source for that? Who knew?

Mark Eichenlaub

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hs2s19m5dp45pSQfDLfars6Z_qiAD984SCI02

Now the AP has hopped on the "lied about links to Iraq" meme. These people are so ignorant, partisan and/or dishonest it sickens me.

Sue

So, I guess we should just ignore that whole situation in Darfur then?

Posted by: AJB | May 12, 2009 at 03:23 PM

Might as well. The only alternative is to send in the troops and we all know that isn't an option.

Mikey NTH

"I would speculate that he was missing because he was such an embarrassment to the Bush administration," said Tom Malinowski, the head of the Washington office of Human Rights Watch. "He was Exhibit A in the narrative that tortured confessions contributed to the massive intelligence failure that preceded the Iraq war."

Or he was to Libya the Libyans wanted to talk to him about a few things and as part of a deal with them we did so.

I could speculate about that until the cows come home, or just use it to support my own particular hobby-horse without any proof offered, just like Mr. Malinowski did.

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