The History Channel has a bit of a puzzle with some anti-American ads that won a prestigious Clio award yet are now being disavowed and disappeared. Hey, this is the sort of work that earns bloggers the big bucks.
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I saw that..What do you suppose that's all about? Does Ogilvie Mather see a resurgence in patriotism? Or did a grownup look at that carp?
Posted by: clarice | May 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM
happyfeet made a very pertinent comment re this matter at Protein Wisdom:
I think I'll email customer relations at a few of those clients with a short message and a link. I wonder why they do business with anti-American scum?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | May 22, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Rick,
Can we advertise the tea party manifesto, or are we waiting for something? (Or did I miss it, which is more likely)
Posted by: Jane | May 22, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Clarice, I just read the followups at Red State. It appears that the ads were produced "prospectively" — ie, without a contract or History Channel's approval — in Johannesburg, and "somehow" submitted to the CLIOs, and "somehow" won award even though, as they had never been aired, they didn't qualify for submittal. The HC is sending out cease&desist orders all over, and I'd bet the CLIO folks were first on the list.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | May 22, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Jane,
Are you referring to the points which you highlighted from the Contract With America as a manifesto? I can pop a quick post to that effect and provide a link.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | May 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Speaking of Rewriting history, for reasons passing understanding, I was at the local library, and I was glancing through David Sanger's The Inheritance, which was a
subject of a thread, sometimes back. Well the part that wasn't covered rather extensively in the NIE; was the extent of the development of the Iranian nuclear program, the role of their AQ Khan, a fellow named Fakrizadeh, and Project 111. One wonder why that was left out of the news accounts; three guesses and the first two don't count. I guess one shouldn't be surprised by anything nowadays
Posted by: narciso | May 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Ogilvy & Mather seems to admit that they were created within one of their shops, but said they were never commercially produced which should have disqualified them from CLIO submission.
Clearly somebody at Ogilvy & Mather suckered the CLIO folks and I'd say both were willing participants.
Posted by: Neo | May 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM
I bet that nobody at Ogilvy & Mather or CLIO gets "fired" over this clearly successful attempt to sucker the CLIO folks into awarding an unqualified submission.
Posted by: Neo | May 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM
CLIO should impose a sanction on O & M and O& M should take disciplinary action against those who tricked CLIO.
Posted by: clarice | May 22, 2009 at 12:30 PM
I've never seen these ads, but I believe that I've detected a leftward shift in their programming of late: several anti-Christian shows, repeated attempts to work Islam as a positive force in the world alongside Judeo-Christian traditions, as well as some junk science spots promoting global warming. This ad controversy appears to be more of the same by the people that run this channel.
Posted by: trentk269 | May 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM
O.K. he was mentioned is some places, including RBO in January, but with nowhere the level of import assigned to say Rush Limbaugh or Dick Cheney, you know the 'real enemy'
Posted by: narciso | May 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM
You may be right trent but I don't tink the Channel was involved in this.
Posted by: clarice | May 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM
**tHink**
Posted by: clarice | May 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM
I would have expected this from Discovery channel since it is a NYT subsidiary. I always thought History channel was pretty legit and fair with their assessments and subject matter documentation. Even MTV wouldn't stoop this low.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | May 22, 2009 at 01:10 PM
You know what makes this doubly upsetting, is that the founder, worked in British Intelligence during WW2, no way would he have approved of this travesty. In the LUN, a saying of his, which sums up much of what
we're dealing with today:
Posted by: narciso | May 22, 2009 at 01:22 PM
the leftist cockroaches are coming out into the sunlight now.
Posted by: matt | May 22, 2009 at 02:03 PM
Politico:
O my goodness...trouble in paradise.
Internal polling must suck all around.
LUN
Posted by: bad | May 22, 2009 at 02:10 PM
To Clio:
I have read about how you were scammed with the Anti-American Ogilvy pseudo-ads.
Accuracy is paramount if future advertising is to retain credibility. Please make a powerful statement on the front page of your website opposing propaganda as advertising.
One shred of truth is not enough; great truths are not enough. Providing an accurate map of the world around us is the purpose of rhetoric and the foundation for society. Anything else is uncivil.
Posted by: sbw | May 22, 2009 at 02:11 PM
Sorry for previous post. Wrong thread. I've moved to the "National Security" thread.
Posted by: bad | May 22, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Are you referring to the points which you highlighted from the Contract With America as a manifesto? I can pop a quick post to that effect and provide a link.
I don't think everyone knows that we now have a place to talk about the tea party manifesto - at Flares (lun) and I wanted to let them know.
Posted by: Jane | May 22, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Jane, We need to get more people over there. How can we do it?
Since this thread is titled "Rewriting History", I thought I should mention that ne does not have to worry about them rewriting history in Ill. Since Gov. Blago was forced out over campaign contributions, Gov. Quinn has taken up the challenge.
"But representatives from two trade associations told The Associated Press that Quinn's campaign contacted them offering "face time." In one case, political director Holly Copeland acknowledged the need for political contributions but did not mention a specific amount. In another, she said the campaign's "goal" for the meeting was $15,000."
LUN
Posted by: pagar | May 23, 2009 at 10:23 AM