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May 13, 2009

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verner

Appalled, I do feel sorry for Andrew. And it would make me sad to think that he might be deported away from his husband. But we have a perfect situation where responsible folks are paying for the sins of those who are not.

Why is there a ban on the HIV positive? Because there are still lots of folks in that condition who knowingly go around having bareback sex and sharing needles. It's a contagious disease, like syphilis, that's how you get it.

Sad but true.

verner

Marciso, who is that wretched Rosa Brooks woman? She might try.

I wonder if Obama would prosecute?

Danube of Thought

I shot a grizzly up there on the north slope of the Brooks Range in 1992 (this was a year before I got married). It was September 3 and getting colder almost by the hour. The grizzly made a nice rug but my new bride soon ordered that it be boxed up, where the moths got to it. Tragedy.

Has anyone heard a coherent explanation as to why these pictures should be released? I mean, there are people who can explain to you why they want kiddie porn pictures made available, but their arguments aren't very persuasive. Neither are these people, to the extent they offer any rationale at all.

Danube of Thought

I'll grant Sullivan "heartfelt" on nearly everything he writes, but "well argued" is a very different matter.

Ranger

Clearly, the reason to release these pics is to "keep the hatred alive" towards GW in person, and republicans in general. Obama and crew have no Plan B on the economy, so they need these types of things to keep people distracted. Funny how doing this allows them to keep this bit of ammo dry, maybe to be used in 2010 when they are facing 10.5% unemployment as the midterms approach.

Appalled

verner:

There are public health reasons for not doing this - one of which being that it discourages immigrants with AIDS from seeking treatment. But that's atually a polcy debate for a different thread.

Andrew's post seemed to be about something different -- being let down by the Democrats on issues he cares about for the umpteenth time. I suppose if you put your trust in politics, this will happen to you. I think those who truly believe in policy are better off in academe, or writing blogs, because the compromises needed just to get something done will break your heart.

I really don't feel any personal sorrow for Sullivan. I think he created an ugly new front in our politics with his great Trig Palin conspiracy mongering. I'm glad Sarah Palin is not our Vice President -- but also believe that what she had to put up with in personal scrutiny (and the parade of retarded ethics charges) is preciselly the sort of thing that keeps decent people out of politics.

Danube of Thought

From Rasmussen today:

"Seventy-three percent (73%) of California voters oppose raising state income taxes to eliminate the budget deficit. Raising the state sales tax is opposed by 69%.

"At the same time, 69% favor major cuts in government spending to eliminate the budget deficit. Just 16% oppose the spending cuts.

"There is strong support for one concept that will be on the ballot next week. Ninety percent (90%) of voters say legislators should not get a pay raise if they fail to pass a balanced budget. Just five percent (5%) disagree.

"In fact, most California voters want to go even further. Seventy percent (70%) believe that if the legislators can’t balance the budget, they should take a significant pay cut."

This is going to be a crawl-over-broken-glass election day for this household.

I still want to see a recall petition for the governor and the entire legislature, all in one fell swoop. "They shall be permitted to remain in office until a special election can be held to select their replacements, after which they shall be ineligible to hold public office in California."

bad

Andy McCarthy calls Gibbs line about Obama's new argument a "big Whopper."

LUN

DrJ

DoT

I would go further. I think it is time for CA to go for a part-time legislative like TX or AZ. They've shown repeatedly they can't govern successfully, so let's limit the damage they can do.

Jane

He will soon be forced to leave the US because he is HIV positive.

I suspect he is concerned about the new healthcare where the government gets to decide who gets treatment. Perhaps he has determined that because the President is opposed to gay marriage he is opposed to gays getting treatment for HIV - or something like that. After all there was a provision in the stimulus bill that says the government gets to decide who gets what.

My mother is 83 and has severe macular degeneration. The only thing separating her and blindness is an injection in her eye once a month. She loves the president. Perhaps she thinks she will be on the list to spend government medical money on, altho I doubt it.

clarice

I don't see how Andy can be deported. I am quite certain he is a legal immigrant married to a US citizen. i couldn't bear to concentrate on all the drivel in his latest but thought he was making a general (and not well-considered) argument about the ignominy of forcing HIV positive visitors to the US to disclose their condition on their visas.

bad

Fascinating Jane! Imagine the campaign ads:

VOTE FOR ME, I'll make sure you get dialysis instead of wasting the money on old people.

VOTE FOR ME!! Why waste money on HIV treatments when everyone knows BOTOX injections are a God given right.

The hate crime legislation will make for awesome lawsuits.

narciso

That's a shame about Andrew, his own personal circumstance.I was a fairly usual follower of the Daily Dish in the days after September 11th, than he went all
'David Brock' over Abu Ghraib and gay marriage. He then recanted everything he ever believed in, seemingly, he joined the side who had ideologically shunned him. Arianna seems to have gone the same track for different reasons, Lowry's latest novel
has a devastating character sketch of her under roman a clef rules. And well after Aug. 29th, he went nearly into John Nash territory. I thought if you were a US citizen, you didn't have to leave

Rick Ballard

Ranger,

I agree wrt to this being smoke to cover the (D)irty Fascist attack on the economy (and private property rights) but it doesn't appear to be resonating. I would also note that Citizen Obama's sans culottes are as little noted for patience as were Danton's. They don't give a damn about pictures of crimes taken by the criminals themselves. They want their 3BR 2BA (w/o mortgage) and they're a little peeved about the tightness of their debt serf's collar.

The angle of descent for the economy isn't quite as steep as it was in February but it's a very long way from leveling off and those green shoots remain few and far between.

RichatUF

Going OT because the news is so depressing.

The first space walk for the Hubble Repair mission is underway. They are replacing the Wide Field and Planetary Camera 2 with Wide Field Planetary Camera 3. This morning they had a problem with the torque wrench to loosen the grounding strap bolts, but after a bit of work and a few tool changes (got a smaller handheld ratchet), they loosened the bolt and have unlatched the old camera.

verner

Jane, I have a close relative who is an exec in one of the nation's largest insurance companies. Plain ans simple, they want to snatch up all the healthy young people and their premiums to keep Medicare going.

Notice how they no longer talk about the "uninsured"? It's because the public is on to them. Take out illegals, people who are eligible for medicaid and are too lazy to sign up, and those who can afford it, but would rather have a big screen TV, and you're mainly left with a few million 20-35 year olds who don't really need anything but a catastrophic plan that is cheap cheap cheap.

Medicare is set to implode--not only because of rapidly aging boomers, but because of rampant waste and fraud. But are they going to try and make it more efficient? Heck no.

So all of us are going to suffer with Soviet medicine.

Private insurance companies could handle the problems of rising cost if they were allowed to compete fairly in the market.

clarice

"What Andrew has had to endure as a Watchman on the Walls of Truth, it appears, has been even more difficult than undergoing waterboarding itself.

And what is next, you might ask? A friend of mine pointed out to me what I was too blind to see. “It won’t be long,” he wrote, “before Andrew questions the paternity of the Obama children, and the dog.”
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions

Thomas Collins

Thanks, clarice and daddy, for the Prudhoe Bay comments. I have passed them on.

clarice

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions

[quote]What Andrew has had to endure as a Watchman on the Walls of Truth, it appears, has been even more difficult than undergoing waterboarding itself.

And what is next, you might ask? A friend of mine pointed out to me what I was too blind to see. “It won’t be long,” he wrote, “before Andrew questions the paternity of the Obama children, and the dog.”
[/quote]

I'm waiting for a release of pictures showing people stealing the stimulus and bailour money.

clarice

Sorry for the double post--TP problems.

verner

App., I know all about HIV as a "public health" issue. I was sitting in a public health clinic in the 80s when it first broke. Don't get me started...

Do you know that if you have Syphilis and refuse treatment, a sheriff's deputy can arrest you at your workplace and haul you off in handcuffs?

If HIV had been treated as a public health crisis, and not the first venereal disease with "Civil Rights" Andrew might not be positive today.

Danube of Thought

As I read McCarthy, he fears that the administration strategy on the photos does not involve the sure, quick fix of the executive order, but instead the doomed PR effort of a futile attempt to get the Second Circuit to reconsider.

If in fact that's the case, this approach is cynical beyond comprehension.

verner

Pelosi is on Fox now, digging the hole deeper.

Give it up Baby. She just accused the CIA of being liars.

She is soooo screwed.

And now she wants the briefings released. HaHa.

verner

No letter was going to stop them, my job was to change the congress...HaHaHa.

Rocco

verner

Couldn't agree more...I liken it to skydiving. I know for sure that I'll never die from skydiving because I'll never jump out of that plane.

I think someone should remind Sullivan that Powell too, was instrumental in banning gays from the military.

clarice

Is it too late for DoJ to seek a rehearing en banc? If not, they ought to go for it.
"Cynical beyond comprehension"? I wish that were so but how many Congressmen went along with the tide on Campaign finance reform believing the Court would strike down that unconscionable abridgement of freedom of speech? Congress does this sort of thing often--and so do presidents.

Ranger

Oh, BTW, I tried to post earlier another data point on rail cars, but apperently I crossed the Gods of Typepad somehow. Just wanted to point out that in the fact check article that AP did on the Biden's Porkulous progress report, they mentioned that a rail car making plant in VA was closing down. It seems no one needs new rail cars these days, and if that is the case, then they are not exspecting the economy to recover to early 2008 levels for quite a while.

clarice

It's OT but am I alone in thinking that Sully is not so much looking for equitable legal treatment but a legal declaration that his conduct is normative?

Jane

Nancy Pelosi just screwed herself completely and it was a joy to watch. Now it will be a joy to watch the CIA retaliate.

The 2nd circuit may force Mr President to either undertake Facist Hyena's remedy and further alienate his base or get blamed for a whole lot of upcoming hell.

If Sullivan is worried he simply needs to go to MA or Maine or some other state that recognizes gay marriage and get married. The man just likes to whine.

Tis an interesting day in the neighborhood.

Pofarmer

BTW, Po. any opinion on your governor,
Nixon, trying to read some exception into Stimulus bill's energy conservation funds

Hadn't heard about it. Got a link?

JM Hanes

narciso:

"I thought if you were a US citizen, you didn't have to leave"

That's the ironic insult atop injury. I don't believe Sullivan ever became a U.S. citizen and was very careful about not letting that secret out -- at least in print. Folks may not have noticed, but back during the Kerry campaign, he never actually talked about voting for anyone, he talked about deciding which candidate he would support.

Unless Sullivan confessed that he had never actually made a permanent commitment to the U.S. after I stopped reading him (admittedly a long time ago!), he must be deep into the throes of despair, if he's started talking about being deported. I can't imagine that he hasn't held resident alien status for a long time though, and I suspect that this is just another bit of typical histrionics in the usual poor, poor pitiful me/us mode.

JM Hanes

Jane:

I believe he did get married in Massachusetts. He's got or had a place in Provincetown.

verner

It's OT but am I alone in thinking that Sully is not so much looking for equitable legal treatment but a legal declaration that his conduct is normative?

Clarice, I don't really care about Sully's sex life. And one is certainly free not to be "normal' in America. But there's a reason that AIDS never became an epidemic in hetero circles.

bad

I guess I'm missing why Sully being deported would be so awful for him. He thinks America sucks. Surely he'd be glad to live elsewhere.

Jane

I believe he did get married in Massachusetts. He's got or had a place in Provincetown.

Then they can't take medical care away from him - in MA. Of course they can limit it - but we really aren't that kind of state. WE are a "soak the working person to help the illegals and non-workers" kind of state.

bad

Pelosi is losing it.

LUN

Sue

bad,

I am listening to her on Rush. She is so rattled. If she were a child of mine, I would have already sent her to her room for lying.

bad

What an argument. Everybody was picking on poor defenseless congress. Congress is a victim.

I wonder what Rockefeller thinks of her protestations....

bad

Heh, Sue, I'd bet a lot of her fellow dems would like to send her to her room.

Jane

She's toast. And it is going to come from all quarters. I am ashamed to say I will take great pleasure in it.

clarice

I am NOT ashamed to say I will take great pleasure in it. She's an awful and a stupid person.
Yes, Sully has a place in Provincetown where he was married. I also believe D.C. just voted to recognize same sex marriages entered into in states which permit it.

Jane

Where does he live? And why the hell is he complaining? What a fraud!

clarice

I'm having TP trouble ----Hmm---Per Wikipedia:
"He was married on August 27, 2007 to his three-year same-sex partner Aaron Tone in Provincetown, Massachusetts. He would like to become a US citizen, but has been stymied by HIV regulations."

Well, I am sure he could have gotten special dispensation via this president or the last if he'd asked for it. No matter what the rules are people considered to be of exceptional merit always seem able to get special by passes of immigration laws.

So, maybe he's not just being histrionic after all.

Captain Hate

But there's a reason that AIDS never became an epidemic in hetero circles.

Wasn't it those scientific whiz kids at NPR that were pushing the "it's becoming more of a hetero disease" BS years ago?

PeterUK

"No matter what the rules are people considered to be of exceptional merit always seem able to get special by passes of immigration laws.

So, maybe he's not just being histrionic after all."

Or perhaps he doesn't have exceptional merit? The world is full of scribblers,perhaps if he went out and invented a cure for something?

Captain Hate

Sully's an exceptional douche; anything positive, not so much.

Jane

If he is married he doesn't need to be a citizen. All he needs is a green card to work, and a beating heart to get medical treatment. (And the beating heart is an exaggeration)

He can still get every single thing a citizen gets including social security and medicare. And he can also collect from his homeland.

The man is a joke.

bad

Which planet is his homeland? Venus?

Porchlight

Wasn't it those scientific whiz kids at NPR that were pushing the "it's becoming more of a hetero disease" BS years ago?

Yes, that was a large part of the argument used to increase funding for research. Calmer heads argued at the time that it wasn't likely to explode into the hetero population as feared, but scare tactics were deemed necessary and the media was on board.

Remind you of anything?

PeterUK

bad,You have a consonant and a vowel wrong.

pagar

The administration's central activity -- the political allocation of wealth and opportunity -- is not merely susceptible to corruption, it is corruption.

Must have found out that Ron Sims was voted in at HUD

bad

LOL PUK

Soylent Red

Which planet is his homeland? Venus?

No, women are from Venus. Sully's a...

Shit. Maybe Venus.

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