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June 22, 2009

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hit and run

TM:
It's always darkest just before it goes pitch-black.

Unless the light at the end of the tunnel is the proverbial oncoming train.

Pofarmer

And just as Bush-era conservatives couldn’t really make tax cuts pay for themselves

Do these people ever try to incorporate, like, ya know, FACTS into their arguements? Revenue went UP after the Bush Tax Cuts. It's incontrovertible, but then you've got this doofus spilling this kind of drivel. The problem ain't TAXES, the problem is SPENDING.

Ignatz

--But you just have to look west to California — polarized, and essentially bankrupt and ungovernable — to see that there are darker possibilities.--

I'm actually more hopeful than I used to be.
Even in liberal CA, when push came to shove, and the choice was more gov and more taxes or no more tax hikes even if it meant drastic cuts, the voters made the choice the lefty politicians didn't think they'd make.
The short term adjustments will be bad, but the long term and long overdue shift in thinking in this state has been a 10 on the Richter scale.
The tax and spend pols are shell shocked, precisely because the voters aren't polarized; a large majority agrees that the government is too big to pay for.
We are old constantly that long term demographics, Hispanics especially, favor the Dems. Maybe, but other long term demographics, geezers, will eventually make the welfare state impossible, which is the raison detre of the Dems. What then?

PaulL

Here's a novel idea to fix California's budget:

Drill, drill, drill.

Ignatz

We are **Told** constantly...

clarice

TM:
It's always darkest just before it goes pitch-black.

Unless the light at the end of the tunnel is the proverbial oncoming train.


A comedy classic .

Rich Berger

"Voters demand low taxes and generous services.."

It isn't the services that are causing the problem, it's the generous transfer benefits.

JorgXMcKie

"Voters demand low taxes and generous services.."

No. Voters demand low taxes and adequate services. Public unions demand incredibly generous compensation plans and even more generous pensions.

Control the 65-80% of 'service' costs that are directly due to paying employees and budget balancing is a snap, comparatively speaking.

My only solution for that, is to: a) ban all political contributions from public service unions and/or employees, and; b) make all unions negotiate contracts in open sessions with randomly chosen members of the (non-public employee union related) tax-paying public.

Rick Ballard

The CATO piece offers this glimpse of the future:

Or consider that when Massachusetts Commonwealth Care was put into place in 2006, it was expected to cost about $725 million annually, but the expected cost for 2009 is now almost $1 billion.

Romneycare as admininistered by Cadillac Deval is probably too optimistic a hope.

Neo

if the political culture forbids respectable politicians from raising certain issues, then the electorate will turn to unrespectable ones

Appalled

Reading blogs all these years, andf then linking back to a good old fashioned op-ed, reminds me why I prefer blogs. All that verbage filling newsprint made from trees that deserved to dioe for something better, just to tell us governing is tough and the the people seem unreasonable when you're a politician.

Also, the "fix we're in" kind of illustrates why market-based solutons work better. People prioritize when constraints force them to. Since voting is "free", we can always choose guns, butter, tax cuts, and the hope for regulations that does not raise the cost of the stuff I pay for.

This is why one wants a politics where government is humble, does not view itself as something to guide society to some desired outcome, and actuallly concerns itself more with making sure the players in the marketplace play by the rules, than enforcing outcomes.

rrpjr

The Bush tax cuts DID pay for themselves. Tax cuts always do. The problem was, as always, that irresponsible spending increases changed the projections.

matt

There was an ad on Los Angeles radio this morning exhorting voters to keep pressure on the state legislature to not raise taxes.

Even now, after the referendums were shot down by a plurality, the legislature is still trying to raise billions in taxes.

An acquaintance of mine is a supervisor with Caltrans, our highway department. First they cut all supervisorial salaries by 10%, and then, at the beginning of June, demanded mandatory overtime (paid) so they can spend the rest of the funds budgeted for the fiscal year. This is a part of the "use it or lose it" nature of state and federal government spending. Pretty damned stupid at a time like this. Probably a couple of hundred million wasted.

clarice

The governor should threaten anyone spending money under the use it or lose it basis right now..Ridiculous..

Mary

Watch as Obama pushes amnesty and the welfare rolls swell...Yep, Politicans are MORONS!!

PaulL

"Use it or lose it" for state and federal funds--that is absolutely ingrained in the system. Anyone giving money back would be considered mentally incompetent or become a laughingstock and never live it down. I doubt if it has EVER been done.

clarice

The Governator ought to try it--he might gain back some credibility and respect.

matt

Unfortunately Clarice, today, he has neither.

Neo

White House officials suggest the president's rhetoric shouldn't be taken literally

The White House meant to say that Obama promises were as good as “The Bibile” .. the book of Genesis to be exact.

narciso

An interesting angle on Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, seems sensible right, although it will just complicate things in the short run

sylvia

If we organize things effectively, I don't think that has to be necessarily true. For instance, we can get the people who don't have health care coverage to chip in for most of it, as they would be able to if we get organized and give them the right conditions to facilitate that, such as remove pre-conditions and offer a group rate discount plan to them that other employees already get.

And we are paying for uninsured people to get care already, so I don't know if the end cost will be that much greater. It's mostly just an accounting trick.

So, we might have to raises taxes a little, but then think of the benefit most people will get out of it, and that is the security of knowing that even if you or your children lose their job you will not be ruined. Which helps all of society because it will cut down on the disruptions of bankruptcies and foreclosures. So we will be paying a little more to get a lot more and I think it's worth the cost.

Annoying Old Guy

Ignatz;

I wouldn't draw much hope from that. After all, the turnout was what, 23%? Even the measures that passed with 70% meant only about 17% of the voters were against additional taxes enough to vote against them. That's less than half the number who voted for McCain for President.

Ignatz

--After all, the turnout was what, 23%? Even the measures that passed with 70% meant only about 17% of the voters were against additional taxes enough to vote against them.--

AOG,
My premise is, if forced to choose, even a lot of liberals will not tax themselves to pay for big government. That a bunch of liberals may have stayed home rather than go to the polls to tax themselves supports that premise also. And don't forget that these props were heavily promoted by the unions and other interests with very little opposition from taxpayer groups; the spending was hugely lopsided.
As many conservatives showed Mr. McCain, not voting at all is a form of vote and is most definitely a statement.

Jack is Back!

Sylvia,

There is no such thing as raising "taxes a little bit" in the psyche of the American congress (especially this one). Taxes are the slippery slope of incremental health care. Once you start it is hard to stop. In fact, the more it fails or short circuits the answer will be to raise taxes even more - just like New York and California are doing to make up shortfall in a flailing economy. If costs are the issue then deal with them separately but then I believe the cost issue is more a red herring than something driving this farce of a deal.

Fresh Air

OT--

Anyone seen the rumors on the Internet about Zero's college transcripts from Occidental? Claims are that he listed Kenya as his place of birth on his Fulbright Scholarship form.

Semanticleo


Healthcare cost boogeymen, anyone?

How about one of the Sith Brothers of the HMO Family. Yes, the Founding Father of modern snake-oil remedies thru medicine makes the case for 'doing something' because, just like Obama, they are concerned about the future of healthcare.
If only Richard Nixon could have foreseen
the boondoggle he authorized Mr. Kaiser to propogate. (If only Bush could have seen it coming....)


"Health care costs have been rising for several years. Expenditures in the United States on health care surpassed $2 trillion in 2006, almost three times the $714 billion spent in 1990, and over eight times the $253 billion spent in 1980. Stemming this growth has become a major policy priority, as the government, employers, and consumers increasingly struggle to keep up with health care costs. [1] In 2006, U.S. health care spending was about $7,026 per resident and accounted for 16% of the nation’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Total health care expenditures grew at an annual rate of 6.7 percent in 2006, a slower rate than recent years, yet still outpacing inflation and the growth in national income. [2]

Although Americans benefit from this increasing investment in health care, the recent rapid cost growth, coupled with an overall economic slowdown and rising federal deficit, is placing great strains on the systems we use to finance health care, including private employer-sponsored health insurance coverage and public insurance programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Since the year 2000, employer-sponsored health coverage premiums have increased by 87 percent. [3] Employers are increasingly shifting costs to their employees in the form of higher premiums, deductibles, and co-payments. With workers’ wages growing at a much slower pace than health care costs, many face difficulty in affording this growth in out-of-pocket spending."

Semanticleo

http://www.kaiseredu.org/topics_im.asp?imID=1&parentID=61&id=358

matt

annoying old guy sounds like Michael Hiltzik of the LA Times, who used the same argument.

There are swathes of empty homes in developments up and down the state. Unemployment is 11.5% in California, and the state is killing businesses. The state employee payroll grew by close to 100,000 under Arnold. The legislature is utterly dysfunctional. There has been a net outflow from the state for the past 18 months that is growing.

The people who pay the taxes that keep this all running have pretty well had it. They are energized and willing to become involved. As things get worse, this movement will grow.

reckless statements by the governor and threats by union leaders are going to come back and haunt them.

matt

what would the economic impact be if we began taxing those who pay nothing at present a nominal 10% at the federal level and 5% at the state level?

jacksmith

AMERICA’S NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY!

It’s official. America and the World are now in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. A World EPIDEMIC with potential catastrophic consequences for ALL of the American people. The first PANDEMIC in 41 years. And WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES will have to face this PANDEMIC with the 37th worst quality of healthcare in the developed World.

STAND READY AMERICA TO SEIZE CONTROL OF YOUR NATIONAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

We spend over twice as much of our GDP on healthcare as any other country in the World. And Individual American spend about ten times as much out of pocket on healthcare as any other people in the World. All because of GREED! And the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare system in America.

And while all this is going on, some members of congress seem mostly concern about how to protect the corporate PROFITS! of our GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT NATIONAL DISGRACE. A PRIVATE FOR PROFIT DISGRACE that is in fact, totally valueless to the public health. And a detriment to national security, public safety, and the public health.

Progressive democrats and others should stand firm in their demand for a robust public option for all Americans, with all of the minimum requirements progressive democrats demanded. If congress can not pass a robust public option with at least 51 votes and all robust minimum requirements, congress should immediately move to scrap healthcare reform and demand that President Obama declare a state of NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY! Seizing and replacing all PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance plans with the immediate implementation of National Healthcare for all Americans under the provisions of HR676 (A Single-payer National Healthcare Plan For All).

Coverage can begin immediately through our current medicare system. With immediate expansion through recruitment of displaced workers from the canceled private sector insurance industry. Funding can also begin immediately by substitution of payroll deductions for private insurance plans with payroll deductions for the national healthcare plan. This is what the vast majority of the American people want. And this is what all objective experts unanimously agree would be the best, and most cost effective for the American people and our economy.

In Mexico on average people who received medical care for A-H1N1 (Swine Flu) with in 3 days survived. People who did not receive medical care until 7 days or more died. This has been the same results in the US. But 50 million Americans don’t even have any healthcare coverage. And at least 200 million of you with insurance could not get in to see your private insurance plans doctors in 2 or 3 days, even if your life depended on it. WHICH IT DOES!

Contact congress and your representatives NOW! AND SPREAD THE WORD!

God Bless You

Jacksmith – WORKING CLASS

Rick Ballard

Dear Jacksmithass,

Please use more caps. I find them wonderfully convincing.

Semanticleo

"Please use more caps."

Yes. Marmalard finds his bottle eyeglasses helpful, and he needs convincing.

DrJ

Is there a full moon tonight? The lunatics are out.

Dave

If you think health care is expensive now, WAIT UNTIL IT'S "FREE"!

Jane

Please use more caps. I find them wonderfully convincing.

I needed that laugh!

Appalled

Jacksmith:

Um -- I know you looking for a visceral, as opposed to a logical response, but, if the Congress can't find 51 votes for a public option, why would they demand Obama nationalize the healthcare system?

Enthusiasm is nice, but you have given the denizens at least two typepad pages of material...

And, by the way, God Bless You too.

Danube of Thought

A very large portion of the CA budget--I beiieve 30%--goes to covercongressionally mandated add-ons to Medicaid.

I understand that a state cannot petition for bankruptcy. CA has an enormous unfunded liability for six-figure service employee pension benefits. It will be great fun to watch.

Annoying Old Guy
annoying old guy sounds like Michael Hiltzik of the LA Times
I don't see what I wrote that deserves that severe a level of opprobium. I just think Ignatz is green shooting a bit much, Douthat's first paragraph being a more accurate reading of the state of the electorate.

Sylvia writes

the benefit most people will get out of it, and that is the security of knowing that even if you or your children lose their job you will not be ruined
Wouldn't it be simpler to just decouple health insurance and jobs? That's a problem created by government, so I fail to see even more government as a solution.

Rick Ballard

DrJ,

Sometimes a look at comment spam is mildly educational. Spinning the current flu strain into pandemic status is an excellent example of agitprop development. I wish the NIH would split the influenza/pneumonia cause of death data so that the risible nature of the agitprop could be explored more quickly.

I'm amazed that there has not been a tie-in to AGW developed and exploited to date wrt the flu. They're missing a bet.

hit and run

DrJ:
Is there a full moon tonight?

I'm not usually one to correct typos, but the proper JOM spelling there would be:

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/06/what-he-said-what-he-meant.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e201157045eb3c970c#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e201157045eb3c970c>fukk moon

Dave

(from e-mail)

">http://65.55.40.103/att/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3d125b28b9-10e4-4165-a849-c971e0407eca.jpg%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26name%3dSW1hZ2UuanBn%26inline%3d1%26rfc%3d0%26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253a1.536104551%2540web50802.mail.re2.yahoo.com&oneredir=1&ip=10.12.150.8&d=d7100&mf=0&a=01_c1758cbb9bd48b731153c9b13945b5bddc692a14157f7cf3df50cce4fc6e34a7">

Bowl of soup at homeless shelter $0

Having Michelle serve you your soup $0

Homeless guy receiving government funded meal while taking a picture of the 1st Lady on his $500 BlackBerry Priceless

Rick Ballard

H&R,

That's what makes all the carp appear, right?

Ignatz

--I don't see what I wrote that deserves that severe a level of opprobium.--

Me neither, AOG.
I just took you to mean the libs aren't as sick of paying taxes as I trhink they are. We'll see. I may very well be wrong.

--Wouldn't it be simpler to just decouple health insurance and jobs?--

Amen. One of my pet peeves and a root of a lot of the problem.

DrJ

Rick, Sometimes a look at comment spam is mildly educational.

That it is. How a bunch of disconnected and improperly interpreted "factoids" lead to the ultimate conclusion is always fascinating.

Hit, I stand corrected, but Rick is right: the last two letters need to be in caps.

While Clarice's "carp" has caught on, I'm not pushing for adoption of this one.

matt

I would agree with that, but I have a sore nerve there because Hiltzik and I exchanged e mails on the subject. He was all in favor of the statist solution.

Extraneus

I am, at least until the St. Jane migration, at which point we chip in and get Clarice a new keyboard. Then we'kk test the theory and see if the typos improve.

DrJ

I should have a look in the parts bin. I must have a keyboard I can spare. Or Clarice could spring the $10 for a new one.

clarice

Heh--well, it's not just the keyboard..(a) I can't type (b) I'm frequently distracted, trying to do ten things at once, and (c) I get tired and it becomes harder and harder to proofread in these little boxes.

Now, if it bothers you that much, I suppose I could compose on word and then transpose it, but when you add that to the damned difficulty of finding the right spot on TP, 'd rather not.

DrJ

The typos doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm used to it by now, and any of the more challenging typos can usually be resolved by looking at what keys neighbor the odd ones.

Don't you have a dictionary that automatically flags weird entries? I would sound even more illiterate without that feature.

Extraneus

It bothers me not in the least. I always know what you meant, and usually don't even notice the typo until I look back after your corrections. I say peck away, and we'kk manage.

Rick Ballard

We'kk manage just fine. I never notice the topys until they're corrected either.

Old Ways Are Bste!

clarice

I can check the spelling but usually I don't unless there's a word I am unsure of..the typos are on words i know perfectly well how to spell so I haven't double checked..And then of course there's something we all do from time to time--type "by ear" and write one homonym for another.

hit and run

Clarice:
(a) I can't type (b) I'm frequently distracted, trying to do ten things at once, and (c) I get tired and it becomes harder and harder to proofread in these little boxes.

And (d) a cat running across the keyboard.

Ignatz

--And (d) a cat running across the keyboard.--

And don't forget (e) loaded, which was clarice's original excuse for fukk.:)

pagar

If the rain and the clouds aren't depressing you------Maybe this will.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06222009/postopinion/editorials/chris_dodds_other_problem_175421.htm
Sen. Chris Dodd, the dubious Democrat from the Nutmeg State, told a recent interviewer that it was "offensive" that the media would suggest that his wife, Jackie Clegg Dodd, has potential conflicts of interest because she sits on the boards of four pharmaceutical firms.
DrJ

(d) a cat running across the keyboard.

My problem is more often that the local furry-face insists on resting his paws and head on my hands while I type. Or starts licking my hands. Or chewing on my shirt buttons.

But he runs across the keyboard very rarely.

Extraneus

Good point, Ignatz.

clarice

The cat does frequently meander across the keyboard when bored and desiring attention--usually that just plays foul with all the settings though--her typing is so bad even I catch the errors.
Very funny, ignatz..

Danube of Thought

The question of whether the Bush tax cuts "paid for themselves" is very much ancient history, as were the budget deficits that accrued during his tenure. The pertinent question today is who the hell is going to pay for all the spending to which Obama has committed--and how.

Meanwhile, he remains in negative Ras territory.

DrJ

I can check the spelling but usually I don't unless there's a word I am unsure of

My browser is set up to place red dots below any misspelled words as I type. So I have at it, and them look to see what I typed wrong.

That's no good, of course, for homonyms or fragments that are words too.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

At least you don't have a bulldog chewing the keyboard. Mine thought my first Blackberry was a chew toy; its keys were no match for his over-developed jaws.

Lesley

Clarice - what do you think about the Myers asking for "house arrest"? Do you think the judge will grant it?

I find it ironic. Had they been Cubans spying for the USA & caught, I seriously doubt the Cuban justice system would grant electronic monitoring and allow them back in their cushy apartment (bought, in part, by the government salary of the accused).

glasater

Zero doesn't think the Bush tax cuts are "fair". As per his response in one of the later debates with HRC.

I was watching the audience on that one and there was a collective shiver in the audience ISTM. There was little followup from Gibson and Stephy.
So many folks--including Buffett--didn't think Zero would act on his campaign promises. Wonder if Buffett has changed his thinking any.

And I really don't see typos but the "kk" one put me on the floor. Just too funny:)

Parking Lot

typos can be so funny ... here's some I've collected over time ... I swear to God these are genuine


No, what slave owners lived in the north other than the owners of factories, that had people work fervently for them doing peace work to make their quota ...

In one short week, Dirty Hussein has already shown he's the master of doubletalk, of hypocrisy, of smoking mirrors and devoid of principles.

I have not heard from either in a long time. They must be in morning ...

All she can come up with is the same rederick she gets off Fox News like the usage of "Hussein" and the uproar over his birth certificate.

You might also try creamed peas on toast. I remember in rural school where it was the favorite with the kids. To make it melt a pad of butter in saucepan. Add a couple of teaspoons of flower to make a roo


narciso

Let see, spy for 28 years for the DGI, tried to flee the country before they were nabbed; who's the judge handling this again.
No the Cuban government would not be so lenient, they would likely flip the asset, and when the time was right, burn the operatives who dealt with them, as they did in 1988.

Parking Lot

Fresh Air

re the Fulbright scholarship angle

If you check out the date of the original 'report' it is **April 1**

somebody was spoofing

clarice

The judge handling the Myers case is Reggie Walton. The magistrate who determined there should be no bail said the govt's case seemed insurmountable for the defense. The defendants are facing several years in prison and the govt is unlikely to find out what they know short of a plea bargain--If I were the family, I wouldn't count on a homecoming party for a while.

Captain Hate

Hey we've got a new troll along with an extremely stale one. If I wished for jacksmith to die in a pandemic (excuse me: PANDEMIC) would that make me a bad person?

boris

Pretty sure you'd go to heKK CH.

Porchlight

Ohhh ladies of JOM....

Michelle is calling!

Here is a new video by the FLOTUS. I just know you'll all enjoy it (and don't miss the comments!):

First Lady Michelle Obama calls on you to serve

daddy

Friends of Gaia OT,

Last week I linked to local stories showing how 41 Bald Eagles and 189 Gosssimer Winged Gulls were inadvertently killed by Fish & Game Conservationists while trying to kill rats on an Aleutian Island. I also linked to a Grad Student studying Glacial Melting having to shoot dead a Polar Bear while studying how Glacial Melting harms Polar Bears. Today comes news from Homer that 64,000 Silver Salmon smolt were killed because Eco-Biologists released them into a contaminated holding pen. ">http://www.homernews.com/stories/061809/fishing_3_003.shtml"> Link.

Maybe that's why we had a 5.4 Earth-shaker up here today. Maybe Mother Nature was telling us enough of the help already.

clarice

daddy, I wish you'd write that all up--Alaskan Eco-Tales.

We never hear that stuff and it's so good--I bet Rush would read the entire thing on air.

clarice

As for Michelle, I volunteer to save electricity and paper by ignoring anything reported about her.That's my service project for today.

Stephanie

I volunteer to lay in the sun and soak up some evil warmening and to aerify the soil with my golf spikes...

Funemployment? Yes, I can.

PS when do any of y'all want to come play some golf in the ATL?

hit and run

Daddy:
Maybe that's why we had a 5.4 Earth-shaker up here today.

Well, since the earthquake was near Willow, AK -- I Blame Palin!

Porchlight

Warning, some of the comments on that Michelle video are pretty vile. The earlier ones I read (now buried deep in the thread) were nothing so rough.

It is striking though that it isn't such a lovefest for the Obamas on YouTube as it once was.

PeterUK

"If I wished for jacksmith to die in a pandemic (excuse me: PANDEMIC) would that make me a bad person?"

It would be more subtle to hope they are uninsured.

daddy

Sarah Palin Ethics Complaint Update:

For those interested, ">http://www.adn.com/palin/story/838912.html"> this is a decent listing of the Ethics Complaints that Sarah Palin has so far had to deal with. The local paper reports that her fee's fighting legal battles since this began has now topped $600,000. A Legal Defense Fundraising Campaign is doing well at raising money in her defense.

On Friday a large number was mentioned on Local Talk Radio as to how many more Ethics Complaints were in the pipeline against Governor Palin. I called the Talk Show Host today and was unable to confirm that number, so let me simply say that more complaints are in the system, though I doubt they are anywhere near as many as mentioned on Friday.

If and when I hear more I will keep you guys posted.

clarice

Let me know when the jerks in the legislature take action to stop this outrage. Or when the ethics commission refers some of this stuff over for criminal investigation.

centralcal

You are all really funny tonight - giggling with my cocktail, and THEN, I come to daddy's post about Sarah.

You know, I have decided when people stop trying to destroy her, then she is no longer relevant. As long as they are going after her, it is a sign of utter fear. Go Sarah - keep 'em worried.

Stephanie

Go Sarah - keep 'em worried.


Dittos... and I might add, we have your back. Donate today!

Danube of Thought

Having been banned from Tapper's place a while back (probably for good reason--I intentionally tested the boundaries of the envelope) I snuck in under yet another name and posted the following:

"This would be a good time to recall the words of Ronald Reagan during the 1982 crackdown of the authoritarian Polish government against the Solidarity movement:

"'The struggle in the world today for the hearts and minds of mankind is based on one simple question: Is man born to be free, or slave? In country after country, people have long known the answer to that question. We are free by divine right.'

"Try, if you will, to imagine such words springing from the lips of B. H. Obama. The thing cannot be done; he is incapable of such an utterance.

"Why is he incapable? Because, sad to say, he does not remotely believe that assertion to be true.

"And he does not believe it to be true because he is a child of "multiculturalism'--the belief that no culture, no government, no people, no nation is in any way better than any other. Indeed, he may not be a child of this nonsense; he may be its embodiment, or in fact its apotheosis.
The world now knows, no matter what Obama has lately said under pressure, that his instinctive reaction to these historic events was to abstain from judgment upon them, in order that he might maintain some sort of potential relationship with the leading tyrant in the drama. That tyrant, he declared, is not very much distinguishable from his opponent nor, more important, from the people risking and giving their lives in opposition to the tyranny.

"Mr. Obama is a badly flawed man, and one is at a loss to divine what, if anything, is the direction in which his moral compass might point.

"In less than three decades we have moved from R. Reagan to B. Obama, and the human race will suffer hugely and at length for the change."

I borrowed the thought, and some of the language, from this eloquent piece in the WSJ (LUN):


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124562865234735801.html#mod=djemEditorialPage

narciso

Klavan is great, I wish I could be that articulate and concise in my responses. Because he articulated what I have felt
recently. The master of this is Fouad
Adjami, in the LUN. He picked up on the
atmosphere of Canetti's "Madness of the Crowds" that seemed to set after Lehman's
fall, that seems to supporting this infusion of Nasserite, Baathist, even Castroite memes in the body politic

narciso

There's a method to their madness, Daddy, btw, belated happy father's day, this is her earlier comment on the stimulus as part
of the funding for the pipeline; who else would dare say that, in the LUN:

narciso

A bit of a palate cleanser after that other Youtube video, in the LUN

centralcal

Damn it - Fascist Hyena was actually banned????

God bless those who keep going back - under whatever name they so choose - to counter the propaganda machine!

centralcal

oh - and I forgot to add - eloquently!

Holly

DOT

Your moniker at Tapper led me to a wonderful article about prostate cancer. My husband had surgery last year and he's doing so well that I've not kept up with the latest info. It's great news.

J

As long as the dems consider our hard earned money, theirs, we will have no solution.

daddy

Centralcal,

Sorry to bum out with my Sarah commentary. I hadn't read any of this very witty thread before posting it, but just got off the phone with the Talk Show guy and needed to stick it somewhere.

DOT,

Wonderful comment. Could not have been said better.

Narciso,

That's exactly what Sarah said about constructing the pipeline in the interview on local radio the day it was announced---keep the govt the heck out of this operation. Let the free market do it on its own, with jobs and benefits and profits for all. Also, saw that Adjami guy being interviewed on Lou Dobbs today and he was excellent. Very logically and unemotionally and without malice painted the negatives for the region and the world of Obama's failure in leadership.


Hit,

You have been on an amazing role and I apologize for not having said so sooner.

Clarice,

I sent one in to AT last week but no luck. I wouldn't be surprised if my web address is messed up. Anyhow, will start trying to keep an eye out for these Eco stories---helps to have a sense of humor in these matters tho' don't it.

Neo
Harvard University announced this morning that it plans to lay off 275 staff members as the college grapples with budget pressures caused by a precipitous endowment decline.
Danube of Thought

Hi Holly--that article is where I got that fabulous moniker. It is indeed great news, and I've sent the article on to my oncologist. I hope to discuss it with him next month.

PeterUK

Daddy,
One of Sarah Palin's suers, as fine a coven as you could find.

clarice

daddy, tell the editor i sent you--and try again. If you don't hear back let me know--sometimes Thom has computer problems..he's as big a klutz as i am
editoratamericanthinkerdotcom

at should be @ and dot .

Holly

DOT,

If you should ever need a great surgeon, Kevin Slawin at the Texas Medical Center in Houston is incredibly good. Great stats. Have to call his personal assistant to get an appointment, though.

Email me at ndduluc(at)yahoo.com if you want info or whatever.

The Ace

And just as Bush-era conservatives couldn’t really make tax cuts pay for themselves,

Hysterical.

They more than "paid for themselves" the problem was domestic spending increased at a greater rate than any time since the Great Society.

The author is an imbecile.

Thomas Jackson

One of the jokes is the refrain of the "demand" for increasing services. The only demands come from special interest groups not the average taxpayer. In fact 40% of voters pay no income tax. Do you believe these people really care about the effectiveness of efficiency of government spending?

But taxpayers will not be found calling for this spending. That's why politicians will never listen to voters. California is a demonstration of this.

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