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June 11, 2009

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Sue

I haven't watched Letterman, ever. I've seen parts of his show online but can't stomach the man. And did I mention his wife, the one he knocked up, is fugly?

centralcal

Letterman is pretty fugly himself, too. Internally and externally.

Ignatz

--Tim Blair delivers what I hope is the last word on Letterman's deplorable conduct.--

In a better world Todd Palin, without fear of prosecution, could deliver something a little more substantial than the last word, and widen that gap in Letterman's dipshit grin an inch or two.

Stephanie

Posted back on the other thread and brought forward and embellished a bit...

UPDATE: Per ABC News' Kate Snow: Gov. Palin pushed back at Letterman again this morning, issuing a statement via Palin PAC spokesperson Meghan Stapelton.

"The Palins have no intention of providing a ratings boost for David Letterman by appearing on his show," Stapelton said in an email to ABC News. "Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."

HA!!!

This politician knows how to fight fire with napalm...

Lighten up Dave, it was just a joke...

LUN

Rocco

I'm going to call him "Skittles" Lettermen from now on!

glasater

The audience to my way of thinking is accountable for laughing at letterman's dreck.

Jane

RedState has some emails of sponsors. I wrote Bowflex and told them I was about to buy their treadmill and now won't. (true - so if anyone knows of a good deal on a treadmill)...

Enlightened

I would love for someone to find Katie Couric on the street and ask her if she approves of DL's sex and violence innuendos about a 14 year-old and a single mother. Isn't that Jason Mattera that does that?

Old Lurker

"I was about to buy their treadmill"

Say it ain't so, Jane!

Jane

Why on earth would you object OL?

narciso

Letterman is a fool, a ridiculouslyoverpaid,
incurious one. He didn't understand the obligations of Senators lasf fall, he's surely not going to understand the details behind this event, in the LUN. I think the late Neil Postman, called it right when 20
years or so ago, he called 'amusing our selves to death'. This is the culmination of the Daily, Colbert, SNL, The View axis, that permitted certain events to happen without any response

Old Lurker

Jane, I was impressed when Mark Twain (?) declared "whenever the urge to exercise srikes me, I lie down until it passes."

Mrs. Lurker and the Lurker daughters tell me there is a fully equipped gym with all sorts of exotic machines somewhere on my property. Hearing that, I am very careful to avoid doors to areas I don't often visit. Perhaps I should pay more attention to the Visa bills?

:-)

Jack is Back!

You can say whatever you want about conservative white women in this country and get away with it (Miss USA kerfuffle, Playboy hate-rape issue, Palin's daughters, etc.) but don't ever make a derogatory remark about Chelsea Clinton or the Rutgers women's basketball team. I wonder what Don Imus talked about today on his show? Does anyone know?

Jane

Mrs. Lurker and the Lurker daughters tell me there is a fully equipped gym with all sorts of exotic machines somewhere on my property. Hearing that, I am very careful to avoid doors to areas I don't often visit. Perhaps I should pay more attention to the Visa bills?

Ahhhh,

WEll I fight that urge every single day and often give in to it, so I completely identify.

narciso

You can say anything, if you're the right political orientation, like the new? Miss California, who say that gay marriage, was
a choice, and a civil right, although 60% of her state disagreed, with that opinion.

SWarren

Don't know if this was posted elsewhere. I think Sarah’s statement was EXQUISITE--nailing Letterman as a disgusting dirty old man!

An infuriated Palin responded in a statement to foxnews.com:
"Concerning Letterman's comments about my young daughter (and I doubt he'd ever dare make such comments about anyone else's daughter): 'Laughter incited by sexually perverted comments made by a 62-year-old male celebrity aimed at a 14-year-old girl is not only disgusting, but it reminds us some Hollywood/NY entertainers have a long way to go in understanding what the rest of America understands - that acceptance of inappropriate sexual comments about an underage girl, who could be anyone's daughter, contributes to the atrociously high rate of sexual exploitation of minors by older men who use and abuse others. "

Good on you, Sarah!

glasater

Somewhat OT but this is a HOOT:

Rep Barney Franks walks out of an interview by CNBC's Mark Haynes

bad

Remember when Michelle Obama was feeding the homeless and winking at them?

Kathleen Parker says she has now sexualized feeding the homeless and has therefore invited the sexual punchline.

LUN

pagar

Another O/T HOOT:

“They said, ‘Republicans are having this meeting and you need to let all of your clients know if they have someone there, that will be viewed as a hostile act,’”

Stephanie

"There's a saying that out of the heart, the mouth speaks, and Letterman's statement reveals a pretty ugly reflection of who Letterman may be," Wendy Wright, president of Concerned Women for America, told FOXNews.com.

...

The National Organization of Women also blasted Letterman for inappropriate "jokes" on its Web site Thursday.

"Comedians in search of a laugh should really know better than to snicker about men having sex with teenage girls (or young women) less than half their age," NOW said.

"The sexualization of girls and women in the media is reaching new lows these days — it is exploitative and has a negative effect on how all women and girls are perceived and how they view themselves."

The first group in this piece to her defense is expected, NOW, not so much... must have really pained them to have to do that.

Stephanie

Sorry guys... I blew the italics tag..

boris

Italiacto! for some browsers anyway

Captain Hate

That's ok Stephanie, you were probably in shock over NOW; to which I say "good for them for finally coming around".

Wow, sucks to be Dave when even NOW jumps on him.

Extraneus

Really. Our emails must have gotten Mars so pissed that the NOW gals had to ride in to save the day.

I'll never eat a Mars bar that doesn't have a piece of Letterman attached to the package again.

clarice

Good for NOW. It's about time.

Don't let up on Letterman or his sponsors.

This is an easy to understand issue in which all the decent sympathies even of the muddle have to be with the Palins.

bad

A-Rod can't be thrilled at being portrayed as a rapist, either.

Sue

bad,

I wasn't sure where the rape came in. I didn't actually think "rape" when I heard the "joke". Maybe I didn't hear the entire "joke".

boris

statutory maybe

Pofarmer

Is this the same Allahpundit as during the election?

bad

An adult male who has sex with a 14 year old girl is guilty of rape regardless of consent.

   Pick that nit.

Aren't there states that allow a 14 year old girl to marry with her parents' permission. Presumably that would be to an adult male, and post marital coitus would not be rape, unless without consent.

Sue

Oh. I wasn't considering that angle. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

cathyf
"Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
For his protection, presumably...
Sue

For his protection, presumably...
Posted by: cathyf | June 11, 2009 at 10:40 PM

That was what I got from the comment too.

Rick Ballard

I've refrained from commenting on this out of respect for Gappy's tragic death a couple of decades ago. I regard these attempts to reinvigorate a corpse to be slightly disgusting. For those who insist upon using the name that Gappy was known by when alive - may I suggest appending "child rapist"? That way he'll be easy to find via goggle.

Donald

Well, as I posted elswhere, it sure would be funny if Letterman's son was ass raped by Barak Obama. Hmmm, just got up got some coffee, came back reread this. Damn! It's just as funny as the swill written for Letterman!

Parking Lot

((Is this the same Allahpundit as during the election?))

I don't understand this comment. Can you please explain?

OT but I am not happy with AP's cynical take on Carrie Prejean. Why can't we just support people who put their necks on the public line instead of joining in with their enemies?

clarice

Rick, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Ignatz

--OT but I am not happy with AP's cynical take on Carrie Prejean.--

PL,
AP, being a self confessed beta male, seemed to be nursing a crush on Prejean, so naturally was overly disappointed when she displayed any possibly less than perfect characteristics.
Infatuated boys usually do.

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

Just a feeling that too much attention has been given to child rapist Letterman's emergence from very well deserved obscurity. It sets the table for other has beens to make a stab at reviving deservedly moribund careers by going further down the same path.

I never expect scum to rise above the surface of the polluted pond that it floats upon - there's no need to call more than cursory attention to child rapist Letterman as an example of what floats in the leftist cessspools at CBS/NBC/ABC and then pass on.

Pofarmer

((Is this the same Allahpundit as during the election?))

I don't understand this comment. Can you please explain?

Allahpundit seemed decidedly anti-palin during the election. Something seems to have flipped at HotAir.

cathyf

Rick, I think a more precise construction would be "child rape fantasist Letterman".

Parking Lot

Ignatz

Thanks for your comments.

If that is the case then AP needs to GROW UP. Carrie Prejean has one hell a lot of guts for taking on the enemy she has, and she deserves strong support from anyone who agrees with her view. Maybe AP doesn't? I don't read enough at his site to know.

There are a lot of Republicans, including Dick Cheney, who would not agree with Prejean's views.

I really wish conservatives had our own equivalent to Huffpo.


Rick Ballard

Cathyf,

Upon reflection, I believe that I would have to agree that "child rape fantasist Letterman" more full expresses the level of "progressive thought" exhibited by the writers who put the words in his mouth. It seems rather odd that CBS or NBC or ABC consider a third rater such as "child rape fantasist Letterman" to be a money maker or that sponsors such as "Mars candy" would wish their brand to be associated with "child rape fantasist Letterman".

Parking Lot

((Allahpundit seemed decidedly anti-palin during the election. Something seems to have flipped at HotAir.))

Thanks for the explanation.

I didn't visit the HA site once during the long campaign but if I had, and learned he didn't support Palin, I would boycotted him.

Ignatz

--I think a more precise construction would be "child rape fantasist Letterman".--

Well, as a wise man once said, it's quite common to commit adultery in one's heart so I'd assume pedophilia fits the bill too.

Parking Lot

((It seems rather odd that CBS or NBC or ABC consider a third rater such as "child rape fantasist Letterman" to be a money maker or that sponsors such as "Mars candy" would wish their brand to be associated with "child rape fantasist Letterman".
))

I wonder how the baseball team feels about the innuendo that one of their players is a "child rape fantasist." I wish they'd make some noise about it.

Parking Lot

((Well, as a wise man once said, it's quite common to commit adultery in one's heart so I'd assume pedophilia fits the bill too))

He said it was a sin akin to 'murder' didn't he? Libertines hate that.

Rocco

Photobucket

I found this on the web

clarice

Normslly, I'd agree with you, Rick, but Palin has been subject of the most sexist vitriol and her family pilloried more than any other public family and in ways unheard of--it is time that unleashed from the campaign's strictures she can fight back. I think the majority are on her side on this one--and the fight might make them see how Couric et al were just variants of this hate-smart-tough-capable-woman lefty theme.

Appalled

Pofarmer:

You can think that Palin was not ready to be President, and still believe that the media speculation about her clothes, her daughters, and the fact she's good looking, is a disgrace. It's really not that hard, actually.

jimmyk

I'm clearly in the minority here, but I think all this "rape fantasy" stuff is a bit over the top, and allows Letterman to get off the hook by saying he "only" meant the joke to be about Bristol, not Willow. A joke like that directed at Bristol is only a tiny bit less disgusting than if directed at Willow. But making so much of the criticism depend on the joke being about a 14-year-old rather than on the fact that it involved Palin's children at all is counterproductive. It makes it seem like we're stretching to make it look worse than it is, when in fact Letterman's fallback is bad enough.

No doubt Letterman's carelessness does reflect both his and the left in general's hostility to Palin. Were he ever to make a joke at Obama's expense he would be exquisitely careful not to make any mistake, but with Palin there's no risk, or so he thought. So the fact that the joke was widely interpreted to be about Willow is his fault, but that's as far as it goes in my view.

Parking Lot

((it is time that unleashed from the campaign's strictures she can fight back))

Yes and good to fight it out now so that some of the vitriol moight be curbed if and when she runs in the future.

imo all of the vitriol merely channels the example of 'lipstick on a pig'

Parking Lot

(( I'm clearly in the minority here, but I think all this "rape fantasy" stuff is a bit over the top, and allows Letterman to get off the hook by saying he "only" meant the joke to be about Bristol, not Willow. A joke like that directed at Bristol is only a tiny bit less disgusting than if directed at Willow. But making so much of the criticism depend on the joke being about a 14-year-old rather than on the fact that it involved Palin's children at all is counterproductive. It makes it seem like we're stretching to make it look worse than it is, when in fact Letterman's fallback is bad enough. ))

Michelle Malkin addressed that error on Fox and Friends, saying that it didn't matter which of the daughters was the intended target,the joke would have been just as gross.

They also talked about what would have happened if Letterman's 'joke' had been about an Obama daughters.

clarice

Well, I think Obama disrespectrs women a lot--lipstick on a pig was deliberate and so was his juvenile third finger rubbed on nose salutes to Hillary .

I think people are finally starting to notice the misogyny on the left and it's time to make sure the knowledge becomes more widespread.

Parking Lot

((Well, I think Obama disrespectrs women a lot--lipstick on a pig was deliberate and so was his juvenile third finger rubbed on nose salutes to Hillary .))

imo, when he made his lipstick on a pig comment, he was deliberately unleashing the hounds on her

boris

"You can think that Palin was not ready. to be President, and still believe that the media speculation" ...

Empathy for that POV is diminished by the rather too obvious fact that of the four candidates running in the last election she was clearly the most ready to actually govern.

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

I separate the Palin family's justifiable reaction to the comments of "child rape fantasist Letterman" from reaction within the blogosphere. They have every right and duty to protect a young daughter from the attention of a probable pedophile. I would expect nothing less from Todd and Sarah Palin.

The abysmal failure of Couric as an anchor is certainly due in large part to her adherence to the dicta of "progressive thought" regarding women. She does understand (to the extent that a feeler rather than thinker is capable of understanding) that Sarah Palin's success constitutes a clear rebuttal to the fantasy life that she and other "feminist" failures (hi, MoDo) have constructed. I certainly hope that the feelings of envy and jealousy remain on display until the close of her lackluster career.

Jane

You can think that Palin was not ready to be President

That's pretty funny given who we elected.

Jane

The abysmal failure of Couric as an anchor is certainly due in large part to her adherence to the dicta of "progressive thought" regarding women.

I saw her on the Daily Show last night. (Don't ask) I didn't know who I felt more sorry for, Couric or Stewart.

It seems they both realized simultaneously how incredibly pathetic they both are.

jimmyk

Michelle Malkin addressed that error on Fox and Friends

I realize that others have made this point, but it doesn't seem to have stuck. Both here and, for example, at Tim Blair's site, most of the discussion is focused on the underage aspect of the "joke." It's a charge that's too easy to rebut, even if it's accurate.

pagar

Second the comment by Boris at 11:09 AM and would add that she is the only one of the four that is actually doing anything, in government, to benefit America today.

As for Obama and his disrespect for women, I believe it is a mandatory requirement, for both sexes, in order to be a Democrat.

Parking Lot

Jimmyk

((I realize that others have made this point, but it doesn't seem to have stuck. Both here and, for example, at Tim Blair's site, most of the discussion is focused on the underage aspect of the "joke." It's a charge that's too easy to rebut, even if it's accurate.))

maybe some on the right figure it's time to use the same tactics that the left uses so effectively

Porchlight

You can think that Palin was not ready to be President

True. However, you may be missing something. While the MSM spent nearly 100% of their Palin coverage on derogatory slurs about her personal life, her family, and her clothes, they missed the opportunity to detail all of her accomplishments and positive qualities. Thus a huge number of voters who may have been interested in her had she been fairly portrayed, were turned off.

That of course, was the MSM's mission, and it was a great success.

Perhaps you would never have thought she was ready to be President regardless (but how about Vice President? Since that was the job she was running for. But I digress).

My point is that the disgraceful treatment of her was not just unfair on its face. It was MOST unfair because it pre-empted the fair coverage which might have changed the election outcome. IOW all of America will now pay the price for that coverage.

Parking Lot

Appalled

((You can think that Palin was not ready to be President))

I didn't realize Sarah ran for president.

Ignatz

--But making so much of the criticism depend on the joke being about a 14-year-old rather than on the fact that it involved Palin's children at all is counterproductive.--

Yes, but the excuse that it was really about Bristol rather than Willow is a demonstrable lie. Willow was at the game not Bristol.
By emphasizing that he had to have been talking about Willow, the spotlight is kept on not only his piggish "joke" but his lie to try and extricate himself from the pigpen.
Seems like a win/win to me.

Cecil Turner

Yes, but the excuse that it was really about Bristol rather than Willow is a demonstrable lie. Willow was at the game not Bristol.

Yes, and that's worth pointing out. But I'm willing to accept the lame excuse that it was about Bristol, if Letterman is willing to accept the consequences of that. (We can poll fathers of young girls to see what that is, but it should be about a horsewhipping, IMO.)

Appalled

The two PLs:

The veep should be ready to be President as she might be called upon to do so.

Porchlight:

I think you have a fair point. Palin did not get a fair shake in the media. But, she dug her own grave as well with some of her TV appearences.

This is a "your mileage may vary" question, and I know I am in disagreement with 99% of the folks who post here.

MayBee

Porchlight- I'm still laughing about your Hellooooo Sarah Palin post from the other day.

MayBee

The veep should be ready to be President as she might be called upon to do so.

Well, we're on day 120 or something, and McCain is still alive. She'd still just be the VP attending groundbreaking ceremonies on I-94 in Kalamazoo.

Bill in AZ

My point is that the disgraceful treatment of her was not just unfair on its face. It was MOST unfair because it pre-empted the fair coverage which might have changed the election outcome. IOW all of America will now pay the price for that coverage.

...and once again we get back to the core issue - the media. The media is the enemy this country faces. The inevitable outcome of the media's relentless 40 year attack on our values is an idiot like Obama. Could have just as easily been any other socialist idiot.

I spent a while on the phone last night with some Gingrich group wanting me to send them money for some ad against the dems to be run on some MSM outlet. I kept trying to get across that the problem isn't Zero, or politicians, Dems or Reps. When someone somewhere decides to take on and expose, mock, and ridicule the real enemy in some meaningful fashion, then I could see my way to start sending money again. Nothing will change until they go away.

Jane

The media is the enemy this country faces.

No matter how you look at it, and regardless of the issue, it always ALWAYS boils down to this.

And from what I can tell, no one has a viable cure.

Ignatz

--This is a "your mileage may vary" question, and I know I am in disagreement with 99% of the folks who post here.--

Actually, I partly agree with you Appalled.
Even the unedited versions of some of her interviews were pretty bad. Even if the twits Couric and Gibson were unfair she should have been prepared and able to bury them for it. By not burying them she left herself open to precisely what they did to her afterward.
Where I disagree is that this is an indication whether she was ready for the office. Her governance and positions are what count there and that is why I believe she would have made the best pres by a wide margin compared to the remaining three idiots on top of the tickets.

Porchlight

Appalled,

It is true that the TV appearances were not strong. However, given the negative slant of the overall coverage of her, they had greater impact than they might otherwise have had. Obama made mistakes, too, remember, but they were either not covered at all or brushed off as minor by the media. And Biden made several outrageous claims on the trail, including during the debate, that the MSM didn't even bother to fact check.

Do you honestly think that if Obama's "bitter clingers" remark had gotten the same amount of MSM coverage that Palin's statement about being able to see Russia from Alaska (which was heavily edited before it aired) did, that it wouldn't have made a difference? Or if Obama had been grilled on his various statements such as disowning Wright after saying he wouldn't, or calling his grandmother a 'typical white person' because she was afraid of being mugged by a black man?

Every story written about Palin's family and clothes was a story not written about her record as governor. Every story written about Obama's oratorical style or fashion sense was a story not written on voting "present" or his dealings with Rezko. I know it's YMMV and I sound like a broken record, but I honestly believe that the entire election turned on the media coverage - by commission and omission.

DrJ

She'd still just be the VP attending groundbreaking ceremonies on I-94 in Kalamazoo.

Should I stand up for my home town? Since I've not been back there for years and years, maybe not.

bad

Appalled, Do you think Joe Biden is ready to be president?

boris

"she should have been prepared and able"

IMO the point is not what SHE should have done. As McCain's lure to appease the conservative base she was in an untenable position and probably should have declined.

As it was she managed to say some things that needed to be said. Had they gone unsaid conservatives would not be able to say "you were warned" when the time comes.

Stephanie

With the advent of the computer in most everyone's home, the grassroots effort will prove to be the most effective in countering the negative from the media. How do they win this battle? They are broadcast directly into your home and saturate the viewer/listener with their memes and "narratives." However, if the republicans were to go to a full grassroots campaign with neighborhood "journalists" dropping a flyer on their neighbor's doorstep once a week with the rebuttals to the lies and informing them of the issues and links to the best coverage on the web, we could overcome this media saturation. Don't wait for their medium to let you in, go around it and find another way into their homes... some won't take it, but then some people don't own TVs, either...

Appalled

Porchlight:

What swung the election in the end was the financial meltdown. I don't think any incumbent party can survive something like that.

You have a valid point, though, one I'm not sure it's one you can do much about. I am old enough to remember when there was no Fox News, no Rush, and no real conservative source of info outside of Firing Line, National Review and the American Spectator at the public library and JJ Kilpatrick sputtering outrage on 60 Minutes. Consergvatives are actually better off than they were 30 years ago when it comes to media.

Pofarmer

Even if the twits Couric and Gibson were unfair she should have been prepared and able to bury them for it. By not burying them she left herself open to precisely what they did to her afterward.

I think that's true enough. But, IMHO, a lot of the problem was that she wasn't free to express HER views, she had to try to parrot the McCain campaign talking points. Personally, after Gibson asked if thinking she was ready to run for VP was "Hubris" I would have walked out. It was clear at that point the editing wasn't going to be friendly. IIRC, I believe NBC aired 8 minutes out of a 240 minute interview she did with Couric.

Let Sarah be Sarah, and I think the results for her will be much better, although the coverage, as indicated by comments by people like Kathleen Parker, who, apparently can't be bothered to understand the most basic comments about overspending, or big govt, won't be much better.

We. Are. So. Screwed.

Prove me wrong.

Appalled

bad:

Good heavens no.

Cecil Turner

But, she dug her own grave as well with some of her TV appearences.

I didn't watch 'em all, but the parts most found revealing were a crock. The interviews were one long string of "gotchas"; and stupidity like the "Bush Doctrine" according to Gibson is just plain wrong.

Besides, if forced to choose between her and someone who'd spend $2 trillion we don't have on Democrat payola . . . I'd choose her.

Porchlight

What swung the election in the end was the financial meltdown. I don't think any incumbent party can survive something like that.

You do have a point there. I guess we'll see if you are right if the incumbent party survives in 2012.

Extraneus

Hey, Jane, I've been thinking about that point you're on ever since Clarice posted about looking into MSM the other day.

What's to stop some new website, modeled on something like The Smoking Gun, but focused on exposing the peccadillos of major media figures, using the most embarrassing means possible? Legal bills?

How much would it cost to set up a site like that and hire a few private investigators? It could even be a blog. Famous persons are exempt from libel law protection to some extent, aren't they?

Just wondering, since I'd open my wallet for a worthy organization like that. It should even qualify for 501-C status, being apolitical and all.

Cecil Turner

What swung the election in the end was the financial meltdown. I don't think any incumbent party can survive something like that.

By that metric, Congress should now be entirely Republican.

Concur that the "deregulation" meme buried the GOP, but it's hardly logical. Republicans didn't invent subprime mortgages, resist their regulation, or run the agencies that distributed 'em . . . Democrats did. But somehow the meltdown became all the GOP's fault.

Hey, what were we talking about again? Oh, that's right: media bias.

Pofarmer

Extraneous, as much as I hate to say it, the blogosphere, and even the entire internet, doesn't have enough clout. Too many people who matter either don't have access, or have been conditioned to not trust anything on the web.

Stephanie

Asked if her run for the vice presidency last year with Sen. John McCain effectively puts her in the position of front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, Palin replied, "Oh, heck no."

From the Lauer interview:

Asked if she should have the right of first refusal of the party's nod, Palin said: "Nobody's entitled to that right of approval. There's no entitlement accepted, I believe, in our party. You have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. ... Your accomplishments have to speak for themselves."

Didn't she just slam McCain (and most of the crapweasels in the Rockefeller wing)? Made my day!

LUN

clarice

I would open my wallet for that, too--It's time.

Also all their political ontributions, appearances at fund raisers , off the record remarks, bloopers, fashion faux pas..everything..

Pofarmer

As McCain's lure to appease the conservative base she was in an untenable position and probably should have declined.

That's true, and, well, I never really supported McCain, and consider myself pretty well informed, and even I didn't expect McCain to show himself for as big a weasel as he did. Given McCains recent votes and actions, like the one against drilling in Alaska, it gives Palin a really good chance to distance herself from McCain, who she wasn't really like, anyway, and start to voice her own agenda. And, I think Rush finally realizes he needs to push the politicians a little bit more, and he seems to be more overtly supporting Sarah Palin. Could be wrong, of course.

hit and run

Jane:
No matter how you look at it, and regardless of the issue, it always ALWAYS boils down to this [the media is the enemy].

And from what I can tell, no one has a viable cure.

I was approached by a neighbor at princess hit and run's birthday party (Happy Birthday Princess!) this week by a woman whose husband has this grand idea of starting a conservative news network or something. We didn't go into any details, but she said she thought of me when he brought it up. She said she (or her husband, I can't remember which) has some rich uncle who is sitting on some large stash who could and would front most of the set up if a viable business plan were put together.

I immediately thought, "Jane".

Well, first I thought, "yeah, right, good luck with that..." before I caught myself in my cynicism (thanks, Obama) and then thought, "Jane".

My next thought was, "Screw that, let's use that money to buy the island".

Damn cynicism.

Pofarmer

And, what do you do about weasels like Shep Smith?

clarice

Do it, Hit..

But first--a glimpse at the sort of voters who determine our fate if we don't succeed.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/san_francisco_to_fine_100_for.html
WATCH THE DAMNED VIDEO.

MayBee

I agree with appalled on much he says in this thread.

Should I stand up for my home town? Since I've not been back there for years and years, maybe not.

I'm not knocking Kalamazoo. That is literally (ha!) where Biden is today.

Appalled

Cecil:

Interesting poll would be the answer to the question: What party do you believe holds Congress?

I think a lot of voters thought Congress was still in GOP hands in 2008.

Parking Lot

((And, what do you do about weasels like Shep Smith?))

what would be great is a central conservative comedy network where the left could be routinely -- their polticians, mediacrats, comedians, entertainers, all of 'em

Parking Lot

routinely **ridiculed** that is

Parking Lot

I'm sure there's comic genius out there that could have satirized the Couric Palin interview to make Couric look like a total twit

Cecil Turner

I think a lot of voters thought Congress was still in GOP hands in 2008.

Wouldn't surprise me. It's apparent that most people think appropriations are the president's responsibility.

Bill in AZ

My next thought was, "Screw that, let's use that money to buy the island".

I think you could buy a hundred islands from the profit you could make from a genuine conservative news network. Fox news, with their Fair and Balanced idiots like Shep Smith are not it.

cathyf
Interesting poll would be the answer to the question: What party do you believe holds Congress?
I would ask more questions, too:

-- Who is your representative?

-- What party is your representative a member of?

-- Who are your senators?

-- Which party is each one?

I think that not only do they not know about congress in general, but I bet that they don't know about their own personal congresscritters.

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