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June 26, 2009

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boris

"she needed to work the floor"


Yeah r i i i i g h t ....

Sarah should have been working the floor. If she's so smart why didn't she think of that ???

PeterUK

Whilst Palin might be a popular figure,how much influence does she wield in the Republican Party? From the antagonism she receives from the upper echelons,probably none.

Porchlight

Yes, it was fun there for awhile with Boehner and Waxman. Unfortunately I missed the last couple of hours as I had to go out for the evening, so I didn't see that exchange with Tauscher.

Anyway, yesterday I really thought we had a chance. But after thinking more about it this morning, I think I was wrong all along. Pelosi had a firmer grip on things than I realized. If she had eight Reps on board, that gave her quite a bit of freedom with her own people. It pains me to say it but the woman knows what she's doing. Ugh, I need to wash my hands just from typing that.

They had to make so many compromises, though. That's what worries me about the Senate. They'll pass ANYTHING just to be on the side of the angels (in their view).

Extraneus

I don't think she's been such a victim figure lately. Everyone knows the attacks are beyond the pale. Letterman had to be responded to, and Kerry's latest jab was smacked down with aplomb. In fact...

Lurch flip-flops on Palin joke

And if the lay-low strategy isn't working, then why this?

We stand corrected, the truth is every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot," Kerry spokeswoman Jodi Seth says.
Did Palin say or do anything in particular recently to merit any comments by Kerry, the Dems' last presidential candidate before 0bama? Has she been out front at all? Yet they're still hammering away. In fear, I say.
boris

Rick, thanks for the chart.

Clarice thanks for the link.

Still need a neutral source for a climate graph.

PeterUK

Somebody should write about the erosion of traditional party politics by green politics.This is an issue which transcends political boundaries,it will,I believe, cause as much dissension as the Abolition of Slavery.

sbw

I don't see green as an issue that transcends political boundaries. I see an issue that splits the superstitious and dogmatic from the sane and sensible.

And, please help me--point me towards one, I'd be entertained to meet just one sane and sensible Democrat.

Rick Ballard

Boris,

Reality inadvertently crept into a "neutral" source here. I'm having trouble downloading the entire PDF but Lucia covers what's going on. Of course, the conflict between AR4 2007's projections and reality will finally be resolved by running data through a Mannian EnHansenizer (after Phil Jones applies his standard +.75F data UHI Viagra at the hidden collection sites).

glasater

Talking about what Sarah Palin should be doing to help Republican made me wonder what Ronald Reagan was doing after his 1976 run for the Republican presidential nomination.

Here is one paragraph from an overview:

Reagan's campaign was surprisingly successful, but not successful enough to win the Republican primaries. He lost to Ford, 1,070 votes to Ford's 1,187. Yet, his loss proved to be a mixed blessing; when Ford lost the 1976 election to Democrat Jimmy Carter, Reagan immediately became the favored possible Republican nominee for the 1980 presidential election. The former actor retired to his ranch in California, continued to make dozens of political speeches throughout the country, and let his popularity grow during the next four years.

The article does not go into any depth regarding Reagan getting involved with congress and legislation. I think Carter was having problems getting his agenda passed and what sane person would want to interfere with that.

PeterUK

sbw,
The Democrats have a wonderful wedge issue here,just look at this thread alone.

Sue

I agree with both sides here. Sarah would have been perfect stirring up support against this bill. But doing it on her own wasn't really feasible. The powers that be in Washington won't use her. They used Mark Sanford. How'd that work out for them? Yeah. Thought so. But she could have been vocal on the consequences for her state without having to work through Washington to get that message out there.

Sue

OT, but I was right when I said I wanted to wring **her** scrawny neck with regards to the mod at Jake's place. At least one of them anyway is a female. She slipped up this morning at let her name come through on a ****stop**** post. Deidre. Whether that she is jhw, I'm still debating with myself.

Jane

But the woman I think has some real potential is Liz Cheney.

This was posted several hours ago, but I just wanted to say, I couldn't agree more.

Captain Hate

"We stand corrected, the truth is every Democrat hopes Governor Palin is in the public eye for a long, long time, especially on the 2012 presidential ballot," Kerry spokeswoman Jodi Seth says. "Lately it's been Vice President Cheney that everyone hopes would lose the cameras and go for a long leisurely hike on the Appalachian Trail. And good grief, if anyone thinks John Kerry is afraid of strong, smart women, they sure haven't met his brilliant wife and two independent daughters. It sounds like getting crushed these last two election cycles cost some of these Republicans their sense of humor."

LOL @ this. Yeah Lurch loves de wimmens to be smart, Jodi; you got the job because you're obviously smart since you spell your name with a sophisticated "i" instead of a common "y"; that and your huge cans, you simpleton bint. Teraaaayyyzzzzaaa "his brilliant wife"? When did brilliant become a synonym for "unquenchable appetite for gin"? And his "independent" daughters; for at least one of them that means "dresses like a cheap slut with her tas exposed" but I understand, the poor girl looks just like her dad and needs all the help she can get.

As far as "sense of humor", Lurch should never tell a joke again because, like everything else that requires wit, he's terrible at it. He should just go on being Terraaaayzzaaa's cabana boy and just take out the empties every trash day in the "recycling" bags/dumpsters.

PeterUK

Captain
How can you possibly say John F. Kerry doesn't have a sense of humour?

Captain Hate

LOL PUK; I was wondering which of the geek pictures you were linking; windsurfing, space ship full body condom, the "manly" 2004 football throws to Silky. It certainly gives a new meaning to "pro-choice".

Parking Lot

Rick

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the fastest way would probably be to use 'image search' on google or bing (if you haven't tried that already)

boris

Fantastic Rick. I just downloaded the "Global" section.

Liz Cheney ...

Yeah if only Sarah had the Cheney skill with the MSM. If only Liz had Sarah's ability to work an audience.

If only ...

Maybe Liz could be Karl to Sarah's W.

sbw

Where is Diogenes when you need him to look for an honest Democrat.

Parking Lot

((The former actor retired to his ranch in California, continued to make dozens of political speeches throughout the country, and let his popularity grow during the next four years.))

seems to be exactly what Sarah is doing ... Seneca Falls, charity work in NYC, visiting the troops in Kosovo just to name a few

Porchlight

Maybe Liz could be Karl to Sarah's W.

Or maybe Liz could reprise her dad's role.

Allow me to daydream for one small moment about a Liz vs. Slow Joe VP debate...

JM Hanes

You can call your strawmen anything you like, boris.

Sue

Allow me to daydream for one small moment about a Liz vs. Slow Joe VP debate...

Posted by: Porchlight | June 27, 2009 at 06:58 PM

While I think Sarah did an okay job with Biden in the debate, she left a lot of stuff on the table that someone with more knowledge could have ripped him apart with. Liz Cheney is just that person, I think. Of course, I'm biased, since I'm in love with her father. ::grin::

 Ann

If we can only, look to candidates that have not been "Alinskied" than we end up with a candidate the govmedia has picked for us.

Candidates that are ok'd by Kathleen Parker, David Frum, Chris Buckley, and the Democrats.

NO THANKS.

We need to define our principals and defend them. Liz Cheney will just be the next conservative they try and ruin.

boris

"You can call your strawmen anything you like"

John, Mick, and Henry.

JM Hanes

Sue:

I love Liz Cheney too. She's the kind of person I'd like to see at the helm of the RNC -- somebody who could go out there and argue the Republican case with anybody, anytime, anywhere. In fact, I'd rather see her doing that than running for office in some podunk congressional district.

Sue

How odd. The movie "Outrage" was released on May 8th. It is the movie outing gay republicans. Anyone heard anything about it?

glasater

I'd like to see at the helm of the RNC -- somebody who could go out there and argue the Republican case with anybody

JMH--That's a terrific idea and it would be great if it were to come to pass.

I was interested to see Haley Barbour on Foxnews the other day taking over for Sanford on the R governor front. He is a fellow I admire tremendously and would like to see him more center stage.

Porchlight

Exactly, Sue. It would be like the Cheney-Edwards debate only perhaps even more delicious.

I'm in love with her father, too, though I of course defer to you as you have dibs. :) I will console myself with my Cheney black velvet painting.

Sue

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/us/27jenny.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all>Jenny Stanford. Maybe she should run for governor.

Pofarmer

If she does decide to run for the White House, do you really think nobody is going to ask where she was when the chips were down, and what she has to show for it?

She was planning a GREAT BIG FUCKING NATURAL GAS PIPELINE.

ACTUALLY DOING THINGS SHE HAS CONTROL OVER.

As opposed to trying to do? What? with Congress, which SHE HAS NO CONTROL OVER.

It was all over the airwaves a week ago.

How quickly we forget.

 Ann

You should never post a comment and go out for the evening.
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I love Liz Cheney and her family, especially her wonderful father. They are all true patriots. I should of made it clearer in my last post that I would contribute to anything she ran for and I think it would be a marvelous idea for her to run the RNC.

The point I was trying to make was whoever we back in 2012 will be "Alinskied" by the powers that be. The playing field is not equal. If we don't organize an army to defend the courageous people that step up to defend our principals well...

Sarah Palin has done nothing in my eyes to disregard her in 2012. We watched eight years of them trying to demean a wonderful man like President George Bush. They continue to try and destroy other good men like Cheney and RUSH.

Before I go watch Braveheart, again. We need to ask ourselves: Will we let them pick the next John McCain for us? Will we fight back to select someone that the American people can get excited about? Will we disregard someone that believes in traditional values and gets yucks from the elite because she didn't abort her son and didn't make her daughter do the same. That is why they hate her!. If they truly believed in choice, in individualism, in the freedom of this great land they would hold her up like a trophy.

But they don't. They hold up people like John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chucky Schumer, Waxman, Markey, Daschle, Clintons, Rahm Emanuel, Al Gore, Obama and his hateful wife.

I have been to rallies for Sarah Palin and she or someone like her is what we need. I saw senior men/women in wheelchairs, middle aged women and men, and young people lined up by the hundreds in 90 degree heat to stand in packed gyms where they couldn't even see her but heard her words. I even stood by a young couple that were democrats that had their young children on their backs so they could see her.

I am ranting, again, so I will leave with ... Guess who said this:

"You know, folks, it's funny how Sarah Palin's future is so much brighter than Katie Couric's.

(I would add Kathleen Parker, Frum, Chris Buckley, Chris Matthews, Olberwann, MSNBC, ABC, Chris Buckley, you know the others)

 Ann

I must really be mad at the fortunate child brat ..Chris Buckley, because I ranted about him twice, yikes.

JM Hanes

Wow, Po, all that shouting and cursing has really changed my opinion. That's all it is you know, an opinion.

glasater

Impressive article on Jenny Sanford. Thanks Sue!

boris

"That's all it is you know, an opinion"

Okay then. You have an "opinion" but we are "making excuses". Got it.

Pofarmer

Opinions are fine, but they should be based on facts, and past precedence. You know, "informed opinions". Not on what you think some super politician should do.

The constraints of conjoining body and soul intervened.

Whew, terribly late to this party. The basic political flaw is the political body depending upon inadequate general climate models for projecting temperature. The basic scientific flaw is the modeler's assumption that water vapor is a large and positive feedback to the minimal greenhouse forcing of CO2. That feedback is ultimately apparently variable, frequently even negative, so the models have failed dramatically. Overlaid on this flaw, is the power and control and religious issues which have accreted unto this monument to hubritic governance.

cathyf
I'm in love with her father, too, though I of course defer to you as you have dibs. :) I will console myself with my Cheney black velvet painting.
Hey, Porch, I'm in love with him too. But I'm glad Sue called dibs, because, let's be honest, I'm afraid of Lynne!
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