Deliverance

Ralph Peters excoriates Obama's new arms deal with Russia:

President Obama's ideological bias against nuclear weapons dates back to his undergraduate years. Yet those weapons kept the peace between the world's great powers for 64 years. A few remarks about deterrence notwithstanding, Obama just doesn't get it.

He agreed to trim our nuclear-warhead arsenal by one-third and -- even more dangerously -- to cut the systems that deliver the nuclear payloads. In fact, the Russians don't care much about our warhead numbers (which will be chopped to a figure "between 1,500 and 1,675"). What they really wanted -- and got -- was a US cave-in regarding limits on our nuclear-capable bombers, submarines and missiles that could leave us with as few as 500 such systems, if the Russians continue to get their way as the final details are negotiated.

Moscow knows we aren't going to start a nuclear war with Russia. Putin (forget poor "President" Dmitry Medvedev) wants to gut our conventional capabilities to stage globe-spanning military operations. He wants to cut us down to Russia's size.

Our problem is that many nuclear-delivery systems -- such as bombers or subs -- are "dual-use": A B-2 bomber can launch nukes, but it's employed more frequently to deliver conventional ordnance.

Putin sought to cripple our ability to respond to international crises. Obama, meanwhile, was out for "deliverables" -- deals that could be signed in front of the cameras. Each man got what he wanted.

Here is the Times description:

The limit on delivery vehicles — land-based intercontinental missiles, submarines-based missiles and bombers — would be somewhere from 500 to 1,100, down from the 1,600 currently allowed.

The Russians are pushing for deeper cuts in delivery vehicles because their missiles generally fit more warheads than American missiles. American officials said this treaty would not address warheads stored in reserve, an issue something the Russians have wanted to include in the past.

...The United States reported in January that it had 1,198 delivery vehicles, and the Arms Control Association estimates that it deploys 2,200 warheads. Russia reported 816 delivery vehicles, and the association estimates that it deploys 2,000 to 3,000 warheads.

Folks who enjoy a stroll down memory lane will recall that the B2 bomber flew missions in Bosnia out of Missouri.

Presumably, if we currently have 1,198 delivery systems now and the agreed new cap is 1,100, it is not that big a deal.  Cutting down to the proposed lower limit of 500 sounds preposterous.

Comments

[PeterUK]

Why the surprise? Obama is only doing what he was trained to do .

[clarice]

Everything Ibama proposes sounds preposterous to me. I'm wondering what the Ras - number has to be beore hillary leads a rump opposition.

[vinman]

Everything is coming along according to plan.

[Thomas Collins]

I believe that Obama and the Democrat Congress have also shut down the Reliable Replacement Warhead program. Obama and the Dems are on the way to doing incalculable damage to our national security. It is the single most important reason for individuals to support the GOP in the 2010 and 2012 elections, even for individuals with concerns about the GOP not being sufficiently libertarian or not being sufficiently traditional on social policy or not being more open to a more tolerant social policy or not being sufficiently whatever on whatever. If we lose this country to the conciliatory internationalists, the other policy issues won't matter.

If McCain were President, this wouldn't be happening.

I would urge any folks thinking of abandoning the GOP for a third party movement to think about the impact on our national security of facilitating Obama's reelection by splitting the anti-Obama vote. Worry about the libertarian or social agenda or tax rate or budget deficit or local control or whatever issues after the drag down America Dems have been voted out of office.

[rse]

BO is unilaterally giving away our superpower status while our media focuses on the Michael Jackson funeral.

[Pofarmer]

So, Putin wanted a weakening of America, and so did Obama. Look, It's a win/win.

[Rick Ballard]

TC,

What would your reaction be to a Reform Party which endorsed candidates from either major party who accepted the Reform Party platform? For example, what if a Republican challenger to Murkowski in the AK '10 primary accepted the endorsement of a Reform Party which had a platform such as that espoused by Palin when she resigned from the Alaska Oil & Gas Commission due to the stench emanating from the elder Murkowski? (h/t Elliot)

[Walter]

Folks who enjoy a stroll down memory lane will recall that the B2 bomber flew missions in Bosnia out of Missouri.

Heck, they have flown missions to Iraq (both wars) from Pofarmer's back 40. Until they made the deal with the UK to base some at Diego Garcia, every operational B-2 flight originated and ended at Whiteman. Because the B-2 is not capable of supersonic flight, many missions exceeded 30 hours duration.

[Dave (in MA)]

Don't worry.

Canada will protect us.

[PDinDetroit]

Po - I support a strengthening of America - see LUN (especially the Forum link).

[Walter]

...back 40...

To be clear, I am trying for colorful rather than disrespectful. No offense intended & consider this a retraction if appropriate.

[Porchlight]

OT,

I think this has been mentioned, but thought it worth repeating. For Palin supporters feeling dejected over the Palin wars, I suggest reading Paul Mirengoff's piece on Power Line. The post itself will make you see red, but the comments will cheer you right up. He gets totally schooled by a large number of smart people and the tone remains mostly reasonable and civil throughout. I think I've read at least 150 of the 200+ comments and even in a moderated forum, only two people so far have come to his defense.

[Thomas Collins]

There is a lot to say for your proposal, Rick. At some point, the Heath Shuler/Evan Bayh type Dems, though reluctant to abandon the Dem party, might support policies that would undercut the Pelosi-Reid Congress, including supporting Palin type strong national security/energy production policies. My only concern is that a Reform type movement not be limited to the free market concerns that I hear expressed by many who are threatening to abandon the GOP. A strong national security position is a necessary condition, in my view, for a free market framework to be viable.

How about a reform movement that doesn't involve a third party but makes it clear that substantial effort will be devoted to toppling RINOs and supporting GOPers and Dems who stand firmly for strong national security policies?

[clarice]

Well, from what I can tell-- on the right all it takes is a wide stance or a made up story about pages to keep them home--forget about the economy and national defense--it's all about zippers.

[RichatUF]

TC-

...Dems who stand firmly for strong national security...

I don't know if it would be an improvement to empower Murtha and Webb types who see the Pentagon budget as their personal slush-fund and a union labor building tool and undermine the military's mission as they see fit.

[Neo]

Al Gore fulfills Godwin's Law

[clarice]

Russians apparently not interested in Michelle's outfits or in Ibama for that matter.

Court rules Ward Churchill is not entitled to money or reinstatement from the University of Colorado AND

". Boone Pickens' massive wind farm, planned for Texas, is looking for a new home. The energy tycoon and wind advocate told the Dallas Morning News that a project to install hundreds of wind turbines in the Texas panhandle will not work because of a lack of transmission lines. Instead, Pickens' wind company is looking for other locations in the Midwest and possibly Texas. "

Now, that is what I call news items..

[daddy]

Porchlight,

Concerning Palin's comments of support. Yesterday on Local Talk up here the "Conservative" Host was rejoicing at her resignation, but strangely, as the day went on and the calls came in, the reasoned response from callers seemed to be support for Sarah's actions and disagreement with the Host's position. I was not disheartened at all, and though I wanted to strangle the host for his juvenile attitude and straw-man tactics in pushing his conclusions, the average Joe on the street let it be known they were generally supportive of Sarah's move, both for the State and for the National Political scene, and were wise enough to let the scenario play out a bit before leaping to adolescent Anti-Sarah conclusions.

But boy, do we need a decent media. When the number 1 Conservative Local Talk Host in the State is quoting Maureen Dowd as an authoritative source on accurately analyzing Sarah Palin, one begins to realize how ill served is the populace of this State.

[DebinNC]

from Tapper: "America supports now the restoration of the democratically-elected President of Honduras, even though he has strongly opposed American policies,” the president told graduate students at the commencement ceremony of Moscow’s New Economic School. “We do so not because we agree with him. We do so because we respect the universal principle that people should choose their own leaders, whether they are leaders we agree with or not."

I bet he looked so dignified as he totally ignored the facts involved.

[Thomas Collins]

Rich, my reaction to Murtha and Webb is that it would be good to topple them if the GOP opponents were committed to fighting for Reliable Replacement Warhead funding and to resisting Obama's attempted emasculation of our delivery system. But I wouldn't think that a Ron Paul type GOPer would be an improvement.

[Jack is Back!]

As an ex-RN on a Buffer, I am mortified but not surprised. He really is a naive, irresponsible, narcissistic jerk without any appreciation for what this country is and has historically stood for in the world. The people who voted for this incompetent charlatan and fool, just because of their feelings for Bush and the Republican party should say sorry to their children every night. Not only has he left the children and grandchildren poorer but under a much more dark sky of destruction than before. What really pisses me off is that people like Gates and Jones are standing by and letting this idiot operate so unilaterally. Talk about an imperial presidency - no one ever thought they would get one with an actual emperor.

[RichatUF]

But I wouldn't think that a Ron Paul type GOPer would be an improvement.

Good point.

[GMax]

More on T Boone Pickins on hard times:

Plans for the world's largest wind farm in the Texas panhandle have been scrapped, energy baron T. Boone Pickens said Tuesday, and he's looking for a home for 687 giant wind turbines.

Pickens has already ordered the turbines, which can stand 400 feet tall -- taller than most 30-story buildings.

"When I start receiving those turbines, I've got to ... like I said, my garage won't hold them," the legendary Texas oilman said. "They've got to go someplace."

Pickens' company Mesa Power ordered the turbines from General Electric Co. -- a $2 billion investment -- a little more than a year ago. Pickens said he has leases on about 200,000 acres in Texas that were planned for the project, and he might place some of the turbines there, but he's also looking for smaller wind projects to participate in. He said he's looking at potential sites in the Midwest and Canada.

In Texas, the problem lies in getting power from the proposed site in the panhandle to a distribution system, Pickens said in an interview with The Associated Press in New York. He'd hoped to build his own transmission lines but he said there were technical problems.

$2 Billion of turbines wont fit in his garage! Given his out and out pimping of wind as a front to sell back up nat gas systems, I find this rather funny.

[Strawman Cometh]

re: Porch's Palin Pals cheer up, also see Mark Levin July 3 broadcast, download or stream LUN.

[clarice]

So did I GMax

[verner]

So he bought them from GE eh. What a twisted deal, and Obama and cronies were no doubt right in the middle.

[Porchlight]

Thanks, daddy and Strawman.

[PeterUK]

Palin - No Quitter. Keeping options open.

[Amused Bystander]

Total Treason. What more proof do we need. This man is out to destroy us as a super power. Watch him have the B2 destroyed.

What evil is afoot. It is beyond belief, brought down by people like Obama and Clinton.

Not with a bang, and not with a whimper.

It is beyond belief. In matter of months we are undoing generations of progress. All that has been built up since ww2 in this nation is being destroyed right before our eyes and in really a matter of weeks. We may nee get it back, ever.

One has to wonder if he was in the Russian's pocket from the beginning.

Our forces will be reduces, and government entitlement will be so high that we will never rebuild.

And then we will be at parity on all fronts with Russia.

With Russia and China combined we will be below parity.

They are out to destroy America. Why can't the political opposition just get up and scream it.

What is worng with this country? Why are people not out shouting in the streets?

[Stephanie]

Why are people not out shouting in the streets?

One plans to starting July 26th...

She didn't throw in that line about the armed services for nothing.

A reform movement will be on both the national security and economic issues... inside or outside of the Republican party.

LUN BTW for any who missed the post on the prior thread.

Excellent takedown and prescription.

[Rick Ballard]

Mr. Pickens "was my mortal enemy," Mr. Reid said in July. "He's my pal now."

I'm sure that I offend many by my constant use of the word "whores" wrt various entities in the public eye. I'd like to take this opportunity to express my sincere lack of regret for having done so in the past as well as offer a promise to continue to do so more frequently in the future.

No other word fits quite so well and precision in communication is a benefit to clarity while obfuscation through sophistry is a detriment.

The only thing missing in the Picken's saga is GS brokering a GE ABS supporting the deal. Would anyone be at all surprised to find that it had done so?

[Jane]

TC, Rocco (OT)

We just had a heck of a thunderstorm which is moving your way. I've been out of power since 3:00. So locate the flashlights if you haven't already.

[Thomas Collins]

Rick, my only concern about the way you use "whores" is that it may suggest to some that those who practice humankind's oldest commercial activity are no better than the pols and financiers you ridicule. Whatever one may think of said practitioners, certainly they practice their art on a higher level than such pols and financiers practice theirs!!! :-))

[Old Lurker]

Pickens owns huge natural gas rights.

Gas was $13 a few months ago, and he could afford all those nifty commercials he ran pushing wind.

Gas was $3.44 today.

T Boone needs a friend...

[Pagar]

" by my constant use of the word"

Actually, it is not being used enough. But even more descriptive, IMO, for what we're seeing much of the Washington establishment do is the word pimp. This is especially true for the labor leaders and congressional members.

[PeterUK]

Mr Ballard,
Your denigration of whores is rather remiss. Whores are honest business women,members of the oldest profession in the world.It is a thriving service industry,requiring no subsidies,moreover,the customers actually want the service. It is green,renewable,relatively low emission and more use than a wind farm.

[Thomas Collins]

OK, thanks, Jane. I'll take an umbrella on the walk to South Station.

[Old Lurker]

...and of a lot more use than practitioners on Capitol Hill who go by the same name.

[PeterUK]

Pagar.
The word PIMPS in regard to the political classes went through my mind as well. We have piMPs.

[Thomas Collins]

Jane, if you still have no power, you might as well go to Rovezzi's!

[PeterUK]

It gets worse,much worse. Obama to Russians - Stop Iranian Nukes and we will scrap Missile Shield./

[Janet]

I feel such a dread for our country. Our media/entertainment/culture has rotted and we are seeing the consequences. Disarming ourselves - open borders - moral decay - lawlessness.

[Amused Bystander]

Me too Janet.

Events are in the saddle.

Watching Obama and Co. Reactions in Iran and Honduras is chilling, but not as chilling as the general lack of outcry.

I still want to believe that decent Americans are still in the majority, not in the elites, but in the country at large.

This is a chilling moment.
We need a million Palins.

[Pofarmer]

Watch him have the B2 destroyed.

Dirty little secret is that the F-22 is nearly as stealthy as the B2, and could accomplish many of it's missions if it had to. Problem is, they aren't in favor of funding the F-22 either. This will make Clintoon's attempted gutting of the military look tame.

[Stephanie]

He's making Carter look like a f'n Republican...

Maybe Einstein was right, WE will be fighting WWIII with sticks and stones but the other side will still have the tech-toys.

[Pagar]

"T Boone needs a friend.."

He, and his fellow high rollers are just going to have to hang in there. Obama is counting on them to make this possible.

New analysis of President Obama's Budget finds that he is targeting the nation's highest earners for greater income redistributions. By 2012, the federal government is scheduled to be redistributing an extra $79 billion from the top-earning 5 percent of American families, and $71 billion of that will be paid by the top-earning 1 percent of families.

Income redistribution has been on the front burner at least since President Obama told 'Joe the Plumber' on the stump, "When you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Does that mean if there is no wealth to spread around, that will not be good for anybody?

[Parking Lot]

((I feel such a dread for our country. Our media/entertainment/culture has rotted and we are seeing the consequences. Disarming ourselves - open borders - moral decay - lawlessness.))

I'd like to think that's exactly how Sarah Palin feels, and not only "feels" but is planning to do something about it.

[matt]

none of these idiots have any understanding about nuclear warfare. Try starting with "Thinking about the Unthinkable" by Kahn, Mr. Obama.I doubt he even read it when he was writing his imaginary thesis.

These actions will result in a greater probability of the use of nukes. God help us all.

[Terry Gain]

Presumably, if we currently have 1,198 delivery systems now and the agreed new cap is 1,100, it is not that big a deal.

It is a big deal when the Russians are at 816 delivery systems. What do we get in return other than some stupid photos of HIS SMUGNESS?

It'll be a bloody miracle if the United States isn't attacked in the next 3 years.

[Sue]

I have a question that I hope someone here can answer for me. Does the DoJ have its own investigators or do they use the FBI?

[Pagar]

Why would anyone attack? Just call the White House and tell what the demands are. They'll
make sure that all demands are met and probably throw in a few thing extra. Just make sure they understand the demands are not coming from a friend of America. All friends of America will be destroyed.

[JM Hanes]

Rick:

Not to worry. You're in good company.

[JM Hanes]

Sue:

The FBI is part of the DoJ.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

There should be no surprises about this stuff. The philosophies reflected in his performance these last six months were predictable from his two ghost-written books and the Columbia article.

Unfortunately, there weren't enough of us who understood, and those of us who did could not persuade enough of the electorate to vote against him.

[Sue]

The FBI is part of the DoJ.

I know. I just don't want to say something (somewhere else) and be wrong. Other than the FBI, does the DoJ have other investigators they use?

[Sue]

Let me be clearer. If they (the DoJ) was investigating Palin for the alleged sports complex kickbacks, would they use any other investigating agency? I know that other agencies are under the arm of the DoJ, like the DEA, etc.

[Danube of Thought]

Sue's question is intruiging, and I hope someone here can elaborate. It's my understanding that although FBI is within DoJ it has some degree of autonomy. Ditto the US Attorneys. I've never understood how that autonomy was codified, or how it was limited.

[Sue]

Boy, DrJ would really hate my grammar today.

[Extraneus]

Why are we negotiating anything at all with Russia these days, except maybe something to do with Georgia or Sevastopol? Is there some sort of nuclear issue we've been worried about? I bet the Russians would prefer to mothball much what they have anyway, just to save the money it takes to maintain it.

I guess an egotistical lightweight would base U.S. strategy on his college paper, so it makes a certain amount of sense.

[hit and run]

Daddy:
Yesterday on Local Talk up here the "Conservative" Host was rejoicing at her resignation, but strangely, as the day went on and the calls came in, the reasoned response from callers seemed to be support for Sarah's actions and disagreement with the Host's position. I was not disheartened at all, and though I wanted to strangle the host for his juvenile attitude and straw-man tactics in pushing his conclusions, the average Joe on the street let it be known they were generally supportive of Sarah's move

Through facebook, I've found that --"my first love"*--, is in Alaska...via her sister, with whom I'm a facebook friend.

My facebook friend's facebook photos of her sister --my first love!*-- shows a newspaper article in which her sister's husband was in a photo with Palin. I haven't quite figured out where that pic was from, her annoucnement or something else ... it might be from months ago. Who knows?

But, if "Miffy" [name changed to protect the innocent] and I have any sparks left, I will find out and figure it out**. She might, through her husband, be close to Sarah.

Because, you can never have too many friends in Alaska!

------------------
*most literally, my first love. She won't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, hold a candle to mrs hit and run, but she won't ever be anything less than my first love.

**Maybe you know them or know the name? Let's email in case her now last name is something that is common knowledge amongst Alaskans.

[clarice]

Someone else thinks Obama is killing Hillary--

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/07/07/obama-buries-hillarytwice/

[JM Hanes]

Sue: I'm afraid I just be guessing about that one myself.

[Extraneus]

Until she knifes him in the back.

[Jane]

Sue, I don't know but I think they have their own investigators.

It's a nasty crowd over there, isn't it?

[Dave (in MA)]

Jane: We just had a heck of a thunderstorm which is moving your way. I've been out of power since 3:00.

In Natick at around 4:00 it was about as dark as it is now.

Why are people obsessing over this national security nonsense? Don't they know that The King Of Pop™ is dead?

[hit and run]

My first true love's husband with Palin...

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs176.snc1/6613_1126351293255_1661354541_286998_3235963_n.jpg>

(sorry, this pic is too big, it'll get cut off, but hopefully my first true love's husband will still show up)

Again, this could be from yesterday or from months ago, or from??? I haven't checked it out yet. But he's there.

[hit and run]

Yup, that's he.

(right grammar, right, DrJ?)

[Jane]

Dave,

We are going to have a MA get together - or a lunch or something. Will you come?

[Sue]

Jane,

Yes. And hardly worth the effort, but somehow I got sucked in. I don't even know how I feel about Palin running for president and I'm defending her like my life depends on it. ::grin::

Some of things they say are simply amazing. If the FBI denies it, it means it's true. Up is down and down is up and no one, especially me, will change their minds.

[Sue]

I just got a 4 page letter from Michael Steele with an opinion poll and request for money. What should I do? I know what I want to do, but I also know we have to stop Obama. Should I send money to the RNC or hang on to it and send it to a worthy candidate?

[Elliott]

Maybe if Obama gives Alaska back to the Russians the FSB will investigate. Doing the jobs Americans won't do and all that.

[Extraneus]

Really, Sue? That's impressive. I still haven't gotten a response to my question about his efforts regarding open primaries.

[Sue]

Ex,

It's because I've driven my poor congresscritter crazy. The front of it has my district on it. ::grin:: It would seem Rep. Ralph Hall has turned my name over to the RNC.

[Elliott]

Sue, is that the one that claims the recipient wants to elect liberal Democrats if the recipient doesn't give the RNC money? You'd think the same crew that enabled the Spectral presence to haunt DC for 6 more years might have thought twice before making such a suggestion.

[Sue]

Elliott,

If you are referring to this:

You know that the liberal media elites and the Obama Democrats are hoping you will put this letter down right now and do nothing...

...They want you to give up, desert your Party, and walk away from your conservative principles.

then yes.

[narciso]

No, it's fine, Hit, it's just out of focus, it must have been from some time ago. There's nothing to this Sue, she's the one that does the investigating, first against Ruedrich, under suthority of ythe Atty General,while she was at the oil commission and later against the Atty Gen. there's a touch of Nancy Drew. Like I say I do meticulous research on a subject, obviously
I can't be in journalism.,

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[Extraneus]

Thank you so much for posting, joyce. It's the one thing that's been seriously missing from this group.

[Extraneus]

Sadly, it hasn't yet pushed the Russian dating ad off.

[Extraneus]

Speaking of which, did I miss any comments on TM's title for this post? Heh.

[PD]

I don't usually like Hannity's "Liberal Translation" segment much (the music is dreadful, for one thing), but the beginning of tonight's edition gave me a chuckle. It was based on one of Obama's speeches in Russia today.

Obama: As I said in Cairo ...

Translation: I love quoting myself

[Jane]

If the FBI denies it, it means it's true.

Sue,

I know. Typical moonbats - running scared.

I think you should send Steele back his survey and tell him you are sending your money to Sarah.

[PD]

Suggested response:

Dear Mr. Steele,

I am unfamiliar with you. Do you have some connection with the Republican party?

[clarice]

I realize people get paid to spam the boards with crap sites but I can't believe anyone actually clicks on those things so how good a marketing device can this be? Seriously.

[hit and run]

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[Elliott]

Sue,

I saw an RNC survey where it had three options in the donation box:
"Yes, I've enclosed a donation of X," "I've enclosed Y to cover the cost of tabulating the survey," and "No, I'd like to see more liberal democrats elected to Congress over the next decade."

[Jane]

Sue,

My comment is "awaiting moderation". Apparently BlueHawk doesn't want to address the malice issue. Liberals are such cowards.

[Jane]

Hit that link was a disappointment.

[Sue]

Elliott,

I didn't get that one.

[Extraneus]

I need to take a cold shower after that hit link.

[Sue]

Jane,

My comment is "awaiting moderation".

Really? None of mine have said that. They show right up.

[Ann]

LOL, PD

I have been sending all requests for money back filled with tea bags. The postage is paid by the RNC. However, I will have to add PD's advice on the next one. :)

[Dave (in MA)]

Jane: keep me posted on the gathering.

Meanwhile, apropos to the title of this thread...

[Pofarmer]

Dear Mr. Steele,

I am unfamiliar with you. Do you have some connection with the Republican party?

Better

I am unfamiliar with you. Do you have some connection with Sarah Palin?

[Sue]

I just have to comment on what Jermaine Jackson said today. "I was your voice and your backbone". I hope he misspoke.

[JM Hanes]

Sue:

If it has a postage paid return envelope, use it to send 'em your own wish list, and tell 'em they'll get a check when you see some progress.

I used to get solicitations from Jesse Helms and I always sent back outraged comments just to make them shell out the postage.

[Sue]

JMH,

I'm tempted to do that, but I feel guilty wasting their money even though they don't feel the same guilt. Someone donated to them and it wasn't so I could waste their money. Besides, Steele will never see it. Some flak in the mailroom will weed out those that don't conform to what they were looking for. Plus, my very own congressman had to have given them my information, since it is him I have been communicating with. And he has come through, each and every time. I'm going to have to sleep on it.

[Porchlight]

Translation: I love quoting myself

He sure does. Doesn't anyone pick up on that? I mean besides us. Ah, who am I kidding. I do wonder what the DC cocktail chitchat is like, though. I bet more than a few Dems are snickering with each other over some of Barry's stupider statements, Michelle's outfits, Biden, etc.

[Porchlight]

Sue,

I don't think there's anything wrong with filling out the survey honestly, even if you don't send money.

I did get an NRCC mailing to support the "John Boehner for Speaker" campaign which I'm considering donating to. Specific, good candidates I can deal with - it's the generic RNC mush that is harder to support.

However, we have to have an RNC, and they have to have money. If I'm going to take pleasure hearing that "the RNC outraised the DNC by $___," I can't fairly trash them outright.