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July 17, 2009

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bad

Just looking at Joe makes me laugh.

Who was stupid enough to make him VP?

Ranger

For another good laugh, check out this op-ed in the WSJ (via Hot Air headlines):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124779697143755743.html#mod=rss_opinion_main>Obama Needs to 'Reset' His Presidency

The president we have is very different from the man who campaigned for the office in 2008.

The punch line, of course, is that this guy seems to honestly think the HopenChange Obama on the campaign trail is the "real" Obama, and he has lost his way in the White House.

bad

The Treasury department also makes me laugh but more in a manic, Good Lord, stressed out sort of way.

Who was stupid enough to pick Geithner for Treasury?

narciso

Same person, bad in consultation with those personnel experts, Eric Holder and Carolyn Kennedy, ay dios mio (Oh my god)

fdcol63

I think a few of Biden's hair plugs went a little too deep.

Sue

Thank God we avoided having Palin as VP.

Sue

"Have the ability to create cartoons on the spot."

Sounds like a job for Biden.

bad

Jim Geraghty:

Far and away, the elected official making the strongest, clearest, most easily-understood case against the Obama agenda is Joe Biden.

Has any Republican made any argument as damaging as, "we misread how bad the economy was"?

Or has any spending hawk put it as obvious and revealing as the Vice President's argument from yesterday, “We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt”?

Listen, I know the Republican Party has some smooth talkers and some strategic communicators and yes, Obama's poll numbers have dipped lately. But the bar has been raised by one man who has a gift for articulating the flaws of the administration in a succinct and explicit manner. It's time for the GOP's public persuaders to raise their game to the level that Biden has.

We want Joe! We want Joe! We want Joe!

Neo

'WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO KEEP FROM GOING BANKRUPT'

To call Joe Biden an idiot is to defame idiots throughout the country.

Now somebody explain how Palin is worse than Biden.

Rick Ballard

Ranger,

Thanks for the link. I wonder if Van Dyk writes a new "Kick Me" sign every morning or just has it tattooed on the back of his neck.

There is absolutely nothing "surprising" about Ogabe or the Regime. Least surprising is the total lack of competence displayed in every aspect of this Presidency.

I'm interested in whether any of the JOM crew can pick a few holes in this brief analysis of the Fed's monetization policy. Are the failures of China's short term debt auctions a foreshadowing of fun to come for Uncle Ben and the Treasury thieves?

fdcol63

Obama finished reading Fareed Zakaria's The Post-American World during the campaign.

Apparently, he and Biden have been reading the sequel, America In The 3rd World.

hit and run

"HELP WANTED: Dept of Treasury seeks contractors for 'power of humor' ".

I'm not that desparate yet. But that doesn't mean I didn't click the link just to see....

But, alas, applications were only being accepted by July 6.

Neo
Mrs. Clinton is in a different position now. By this spring it must have become apparent to her that when the nice new president came and offered her the secretary of state job, and she said yes, she got rolled. What he got was clear: He took her off the chessboard. She wouldn't be in the Senate being a counterforce, wouldn't be planning her next move or become the rallying point of anti-Obama Democrats.

I said this would happen before she accepted the State job .. downsized and unable to go back to the Senate, where her center of gravity made her somebody to be reckoned with. Now, her choices are stay at State (and be overshadowed) or melt into complete obscurity.

DebinNC

I'm surprised that Team Obama decided to "go all in" with their far left agenda in the middle of a deep recession. Even the most non-political couch potato knows that's idiotic....I'm surprised Obama picked the well-established, gaffe-matic Biden over the much more appealing Evan Bayh....I'm surprised he chose the sub-par Soto over someone as articulate and well-regarded as Kathleen Sullivan. etc., etc.

The only reasonable explanation for Obama's surprising choices is found in his flawed psyche imo.

Sue

This is hilarious. http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/oooh-obama-sends-big-dog-biden-to.html>Epic Fail.

Team Obama sent out Big-Dog Joe Biden to Republican Whip Eric Cantor's district in Virginia to bash the Minority Whip for attacking Obama's Stimulus bomb. ...140 supporters showed up.

Let's send Palin down there. Reckon how many would show up for her? I think they should do it.

fdcol63

I think Team Obama has pursued such an aggressive Leftist agenda now because they view it as their BEST opportunity to get much of it passed with the majority they currently enjoy, at least before the mid-term elections in 2010.

And they're rushing things so fast to get things passed before: 1) Obama's ratings crater even further; and 2) people have a chance to read through the legislation and find out all the BS contained therein.

narciso

Warn us,Neo, when you're going to poat something from Noonan, because she de facto endorsed all three clowns, one in the Senate, the other on the court, and well the third in the Naval Observatory

Strawman Cometh

Who was stupid enough to make him VP?

The applicant pool was as shallow as Joeblows knowledge base.

Parking Lot

Rick

That was a great report and I think it told the tale true; it is just mind boggling that the highly paid credential geniuses who have engineered this mess are that dumb and reckless.

((The Federal Reserve’s ‘solution’ to the debt problem is the problem. It has resulted in the Federal Reserve doubling the monetary base of the United States over the span of a mere nine months.))

Bush might not have been a pure fiscal conservative, but he was not a stark raving crazy like the current crop.

DebinNC

And they're rushing things so fast to get things passed before: 1) Obama's ratings crater even further..

What makes it foolish is the lost opportunity to prevent his ratings from cratering at all by focusing exclusively on the economy and showing a willingness to incorporate some popular Republican ideas in whatever fix was arrived at in a reassuringly thoughtful process. Instead, he denigrated Republicans and gave us Porkulus. Very foolish imo.

sam

Obama is playing a great game.

His aim is to ram a Marxist economy structure in the US.

To that aim, he is trying to get everything (cap-and-trade, universal healthcare, tax hikes) done by 2009.

Here's his calculation: If Dems survive 2010, he is golden. If Dems get creamed in 2010, he gets a Republican environment to make him move to center and position for re-election in 2012. Win-win for him.

Old Lurker

Bad "Who was stupid enough to make him VP?"

By now it is obvious that Obama shares a characteristic with all Peter-Principle managers: They always hire people less qualified than themselves so as not to be threatened by their betters. As others noted even SoSo makes Obama look good in the pool of AA superstars.

Midgets all.

But really dangerous ones.

Old Lurker

Speaking of the Fed, Rick, last night Newt stated that the Fed had published a projection of zero net job gains for five years or some such thing. I was not able to find any such publication...assuming that would be huge news if true.

But Newt talks fast so who knows.

Anybody here seen anything like that?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--They always hire people less qualified than themselves so as not to be threatened by their betters.--

I have a slightly different take OL.
Barry is about as funny as a crutch. Every dour straight man needs some goofball comic relief, so it's my theory that Barry chose Joe for the same reason Hardy chose Laurel, Abbot chose Costello and Moe chose Curly.

Old Lurker

Maybe Ig.

I'm not laughing though.

Old Lurker

I agree Sam.

bad

Couldn't the Treasury save money by sending Al Franken over for comic relief? Dude's already on the payroll.

Oh wait...he's not funny. Finally, Treasury gets something right....

DebinNC

Old Lurker, WaPo reports on the Fed's jobs assessment.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--I'm interested in whether any of the JOM crew can pick a few holes in this brief analysis of the Fed's monetization policy.--

Rick,

Can't find any holes in it myself, but it is a nice companion piece to this short article and chart by Jerry Bowyer at NRO.
Quant easing didn't lead to massive inflation in Japan. Will it here?
If yes, time to buy hard assets.
If no, time for all cash.

bad

O/T

Good article on the CIA flap.

LUN

Old Lurker

Thanks, Deb. But that report does not say what Newt said it said. He distinctly told Hannity on the radio "Fed says zero net job growth for five years" unless I was way too undercaffinated to hear correctly. WaPo reports the Fed predicting five years to return to full health...but they also show jobless rates declining from 10.1% through the next few years...so that implies net job gains.

Blue Ox

OT

I've heard quite a few clips this morning of Obama preachin' the personal responsibility gospel to the NAACP yesterday.

Didn't Bill Cosby get absolutely lambasted for saying the exact same thing (albeit with less Rev. Wright-style flourish) a couple of years ago?

bad

Blue Ox, I read one account that in spite of Ibama's resposibility preaching, he neglected to mention that 7 out of 10 African American kids are born out of wedlock.

Good to have you here, Blue Ox. Stick around.

Ranger

Thanks, Deb. But that report does not say what Newt said it said. He distinctly told Hannity on the radio "Fed says zero net job growth for five years" unless I was way too undercaffinated to hear correctly. WaPo reports the Fed predicting five years to return to full health...but they also show jobless rates declining from 10.1% through the next few years...so that implies net job gains.

Posted by: Old Lurker | July 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I think the key term here is "net job growth," which, as I undersand it, means that you actually get more total jobs in the economy than you had before. I think what he is saying is that we won't get back to the total number of jobs we had in the US economy when the recesion started for 5 years. At this point I think we would need to create almost 3 million jobs to achieve our first "net job gain."

PeterUK

"The president we have is very different from the man who campaigned for the office in 2008."

Probably different to the kid born in 1961.

PeterUK

"I think a few of Biden's hair plugs went a little too deep."

It isn't hair plugs,it's ingrowing pubic hair.

Old Lurker

OK that take makes sense, Ranger. That's how Newt should have stated it...that actually makes the point stronger.

Blue Ox

bad,

Thanks for the welcome.

I just find it curious that the same crowd that was shouting "Amen!" to the message yesterday wanted to hear none of it from Coz.

Maybe it was those awful sweaters.

Pofarmer

Now, her choices are stay at State (and be overshadowed) or melt into complete obscurity.

I'd give my left nut to see the MSM headlines if she resigned.

Blue Ox

Speaking of sweaters, we're heading for a high of 63 in Mpls today.

glasater

CNBC pundits are saying sideways growth for a time. And the guests interviewed are all over the place philosophically financially.

Summers it seems to likes a weaker dollar for exports and Kudlow--I'm joining maryrose in K's fan club--wants a strong dollar.

David Goldman aka Spengler has the opinion that deflation will be with us for some time. Cannot find the exact article to verify his opinion but here is one of his columns on the financial situation.

Rick Ballard

OL,

The BLS ten year employment projections show an average increase in total employment of roughly 1.5 million jobs per year from '06-'16. The civilian work force will grow by only 1.2 million for the same period (baby bust). The net negative is overcome by BLS projections of Boomers chained to their jobs beyond normal retirement.

I have not seen an actual Fed report speculating about zero labor force growth for five years but Ranger's "five years to break even" sure sounds reasonable. Next year it will probably be six or seven years if Barry the Job Killer and his posse keep spreading Green Death.

There is an interesting demographic corollary to the BLS projections - the actual unemployment rate could be reduced without any net job gains simply by encouraging Boomers to retire on time rather than chaining them to their desks.

Old Dad

Is there a mental or psychological condition that captures the utter oddness of the Vice President? He's arguably not an idiot, but he repeatedly plays one on TV, and has for years.

So why did the President select the gaffe master?

For cover is all I can come up with:

Pres.: Joe are you there?

VP: Mostly.

Pres.: Good, Joe, the blue dogs are turning on health care. I need you to go out and say something stupid.

VP: Yes Mr. President. How stupid should we go.

Pres.: Go the full Joe.

Sue

Swaaaaaaannnneeeee....Po, that's a little drastic. Give O's left nut....

Pofarmer

Damn, so many comments to comment on.

Let's send Palin down there. Reckon how many would show up for her? I think they should do it.

Put Palin and Zell Miller together and you would have to hold the events at NASCAR tracks.

Bush might not have been a pure fiscal conservative, but he was not a stark raving crazy like the current crop.

Thing is, with the exception of the very top dogs, most of the stark raving crazies are the same ones being managed by Bush.

Quant easing didn't lead to massive inflation in Japan. Will it here?

The main difference being that Japan self financed.

Pofarmer

Just looked at Softs. Man, Lumber has fallen way back off. What are wholesale prices Ignatz?

PeterUK

"Barry chose Joe for the same reason Hardy chose Laurel, Abbot chose Costello and Moe chose Curly."

Yes,but,Laur geniuses.Laurel,Costello and Curly were comic. Biden is special needs.

Old Lurker

"simply by encouraging Boomers to retire"

...or give the govt health care. Problem solved.

Old Lurker

give THEM

PeterUK

Sorry about that,my vaio laptop keeps jumping to different places in the sentence.
Yes,but,Laurel,Costello and Curly were comic geniuses. Biden is special needs.

Appalled

Also, for the record, it was Laurel who chose Hardy -- both in real life and in their fictional world. (And to call Ollie a straight man -- to quote Ollie --- "mmm....mmmmm......mmmm!")

glasater

Asia Times is a place I read frequently mostly for the Spengler articles.

There is an obscure Spengler Forum that is just heck to get to but has some interesting commentators who have interacted with each other for quite some time.
I would never try to comment there but those regulars are interesting to read on occasion and of course by topic.

The link above has several interesting charts and also talks about Japan's lost decade/s.

Rick Ballard

OL,

It was a former Fed governor and Ranger had it in one.

Now all we need is for some credentialed moron economic genius to notice that residential building is still well below replacement needs (.5% or roughly 650K units per year), let alone actual needs forced by demographics (about 1 million units per year). I note that today's building permit report shows over half the growth occurring in the south with the disease ridden northeast dragging the bottom - where it belongs.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--What are wholesale prices Ignatz?--

Po, lumber has dropped around 20% from the highs a month ago.
Log prices, which is what I know best, are usually fairly slow to react to lumber futures so they hadn't really even moved up before lumber went back down.
In this area only cedar, a somewhat cheaper substitute for redwood, even has a market. I couldn't sell my pine and fir for a penny of I wanted to. They're still milling last years logs.

Gotta go do some kayaking with my wife now and get out of the heat. One benefit of having somebody else log for me. ;)

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

(And to call Ollie a straight man -- to quote Ollie --- "mmm....mmmmm......mmmm!")

Wait, you mean Ollie was....you know... that way?

Ranger

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/17/video-obama-vs-obama-on-stimulus/>Hot Air as the new House GOP ad up, and they are running it on MSNBC!!! Talk about a direct attack on Obama's base!

Porchlight

Speaking of sweaters, we're heading for a high of 63 in Mpls today.

Hi, Blue Ox - nice to have you here. Brrr! We are up here in MN visiting family and it was 100+ in Texas when I packed the suitcases. So we are all freezing except my husband, who is never cold, and I guess no one will be swimming in the lake this trip. :(

clarice

I run out for some dental work and my fav thread of all time on JOM goes up and draws a kajillion super comments.

Never in a thousand thousand million trillion years would Sarah Palin say anything as dumb as Biden says every day of the week.

Blue Ox

I guess no one will be swimming in the lake this trip.

Hey don't worry, the colder the air temp, the warmer the lake will feel.

Sorry, I'm making that up.

Extraneus

Biden was chosen for one thing, and one thing only: gravitas, baby.

WASHINGTON — Senator Barack Obama has chosen Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware to be his running mate, turning to a leading authority on foreign policy and a longtime Washington hand to fill out the Democratic ticket, Mr. Obama announced in text and e-mail messages early Saturday.

Mr. Obama’s selection ended a two-month search that was conducted almost entirely in secret. It reflected a critical strategic choice by Mr. Obama: To go with a running mate who could reassure voters about gaps in his résumé, rather than to pick someone who could deliver a state or reinforce Mr. Obama’s message of change.

MayBee

His aim is to ram a Marxist economy structure in the US.

I'm not sure that's his aim, I think he is just reverting to what his instincts are.

Obama's aim, I believe, is to speechify and share the gift that is him. Rahm's aim is, as it has always been, to get in/get out/profit personally.

hit and run

I have always, since my youth, loved Tom Watson. Never moreso than now.

Appalled

Ignatz:

Well...in the movies, they ARE always sleeping in the same bed.

bad

Ex,

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Maybee,

Ain't that the troof...

PeterUK

"Well...in the movies, they ARE always sleeping in the same bed."

That's OK.it is staying awake in the same bed that is the problem.

DebinNC


From Biden's "Gird your loins" campaign classic: "There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, “Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision.” Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound."

Pure gibberish, but he was spot on about the "whoa, whoa, whoa-ing" currently going on.

bad

Because if they’re popular,(decisions) they’re probably not sound.

Okay, I have to admit ol Joe was right on the money with that particular statement. Voting for Ibama was popular but very unsound.

Joe The Prophet....

glenda

I hope this isn't doubled..typhus is messing with moi'

OT: Happy Belated Anniversary Wishes to the bad's and the Hit's!! Families who stick together through sick and sin are the strongest! Many, many, more!

RichatUF

This is turning out to be a pretty good thread.

Rick, I opened the articles and will get to them this afternoon.

Biden is an idiot, but I'm still thinking McCain's staffers think "we really dodged a bullet".

Congratulation's cathyf.

MayBee

Extraneus is right.
Remember the days when Obama got a lot of criticism for never doing anything with his foreign relations sub committee, and we were assured that Joe Biden had run everything at a committee level. That was supposed to comfort us, that Obama had been getting wise tutelage.

Obama knew him, had worked with him, and judged him good enough for the Vice Presidency. Now it's become acceptable to almost completely ignore him. But what does it tell us about Obama's judgment?

 Ann

Congratulations, cathyf!

---------
Another Andy McCarthy must read:

The One That Got Away

boris

Obama's aim, I believe, is to speechify and share the gift that is him. Rahm's aim is, as it has always been, to get in/get out/profit personally.

That seems like a risky misread to me. There is a saying (I can't find) along the lines that a person who seeks to control others for personal gain may eventually be satisfied ... but one who seeks to control other people for their own good will impose without limit or restraint.

IMO this administration is in that latter, more dangerous, category.

matt

somewhere near Scranton, there's a village looking for it's idiot.

hit and run

matt:
somewhere near Scranton, there's a village looking for it's idiot.

They're standing guard making sure he never comes back.

narciso

Well we know what it says about Obama, the distressing realization was there wasn't likely to be a decent alternative. Not among
the McCain campaign, We've seen with the statements and actions of the likes of Schmidt and Murphy that they would dismissed
any efforts that Sarah would have brought for sane government; So in the short term, like that poster on Ace, Kratos "there will only be chaos" That's a depressing thought.
Specially when our esteemed gov, Charmin Chuck, says the stimulus is working. I'd hate to see it not working

matt

in listening to 7 hours of news yesterday on the drive down from SF, it seems the Dems in Congress are becoming quite upset with an administration that sets agendas and then just sort of abandons them to the minions on Capitol Hill.

Said minions then come up with incredibly stupid and purposely obfuscated legislation which is supposedly poorly coordinated with the White House. the "Czars" are clueless and no one seems to really know what is going on.

fdcol63

" ... the "Czars" are clueless ..."

And largely inexperienced. But they are a contrived level of authority outside the normal chains of command with considerable power, and are accountable to pretty much no one except Obama himself.

Scary.

PeterUK

"And largely inexperienced. But they are a contrived level of authority outside the normal chains of command with considerable power, and are accountable to pretty much no one except Obama himself."

They are better know as Reichsführers.

Captain Hate

The punch line, of course, is that this guy seems to honestly think the HopenChange Obama on the campaign trail is the "real" Obama, and he has lost his way in the White House.

Yeah when I was reading the print version of that I was afraid my eyes were gonna get locked in a perpetual-roll position.

Ragarding Preznit 666 speaking in front of the NAACP, Laura Ingraham was mocking his store-front preacher speaking style where he's dropping consonants. Fortunately he didn't lapse into his borderline illiterate style of saying "a" before a word which starts in a vowel; which I suppose he employs when he feels the need to demonstrate his "street cred" while none of his handlers point out how idiotic and uneducated it makes him sound.

Rick Ballard

A heart warming tale. If CalPERS succeeds then perhaps S&P, Moody's and Fitch will seek redress from the wizards who developed, pitched and sold those fascinating financial products which have done so much for the US?

C and BAC will be dead but GS and JPM have billions and billions and billions available to be claimed for damages. I'd pay to be on one of those juries.

Pofarmer

His aim is to ram a Marxist economy structure in the US.

I'm not sure that's his aim, I think he is just reverting to what his instincts are.

Yes, and no. Marxism is what he's been taught. I think that is his instinct.

MayBee

Boris, you may well be right.

Po- yeah, I think Marxism is his instinct. What I meant (although though Boris disagrees) is that his goal isn't really to thrust Marxism on us, it's just that what he's doing while he uses the office to speechify.

jean

HIT One of my few claim to fame in life.I'm a distant cousin of Tom Watson. He was a yr behind me in school and from what little I know really is a nice guy.What is amazing my brother and he could be twins.OK my brother needs to lose about 20lbs to really look like him now.

Jack is Back!

Tom Watson's putts on 16 and 18 will go down in golf lore even if he does a Norman on the last day. What terrific stuff we are seeing from Turnberry. BBC has wall to wall coverage - 0900hrs to 2100hrs - for you who live in the peoples republic of Austin that is 12 hours, baby!

On another note, Gordon Brown looks like a man who had his porridge spiked with alum. He cannot say anything without looking like a fool.

GMax

So Calpers pisses away a fortune of future pension holders money on some very dubious investments, focusing on all the trendy things instead of making sure they are making sound investments with low risk and good solid returns, and the answer is gosh someone did not do their job.

Hand the bastards a mirror and tell them to join the line that has S & P and Fitch, and the brokerage houses etc.

They get not one iota of sympathy from me. Calpers is full ( chocked full of credentialed morons ) and worse they are quite willing to broadcast it in support of the next progressive windmill cause...

Janet

Ranger at 12:42 - That was a GREAT ad. It should be everywhere...in English and Spanish.

Captain Hate

O/T but this was a big topic a week ago; LUN for Steve McNair dying without a will and at least two children outside his marriage. With meeyuns of dollars involved this will probably make Jarndyce vs Jarndyce in Bleak House look like a short story.

Janet

The only good Republican ads I ever saw in the last election were on the internet. Nothing "strong" was ever on the tv, just the glossy ho-hum McCain ads.

There was a great one with sound bites of the Dems saying how dangerous Saddam was...set to the music High Heel Boys. That should have been everywhere in English and Spanish during the whole Joe Wilson faux scandal.

And there was another great one (I don't think it was an ad though - just some clips put together) with Obama talking about dismantling our Nukes cut together with pictures of 9-11...set to the music of Requiem for a Dream. Powerful. It should have been everywhere, in English and Spanish.

Ranger

I think over time using Obama's words against him will become the most effective means of attack and chip away at his positive numbers. The more he is shown to be shamelessly dishonest the less people will like him personally.

Pofarmer

What I meant (although though Boris disagrees) is that his goal isn't really to thrust Marxism on us,

Well, the results are the same, BUT if you look at "his" policy proposals, it's rather hard to tell what he'd be doing differently if the goal WAS to thrust Marxism on us.

daddy

Global warming-wise, way up north here we're having a wonderful summer. A bit warmer than normal but I'm not complaining. Of interest is that the ashfall from Redoubt's recent eruptions is very visible at altitude, covering the glaciers that you fly over for the last few hundred miles coming into Anchorage. The glaciers are always a sort of dirty white color, but now they are a dingy gray-brown, and when you go hiking back into the hills a sort of dried gray residue intermittently covers rocks and meadows, and especially the remnants of snowfields peeling down from the mountaintops. My uneducated guess would be that the darker ash cover on the glacial surfaces would tend to absorb more sunlight as heat than the regular whiter reflective colors of a glacier, but it's probably miniscule in the big picture since Redoubt ashfall was only in a radius of a couple hundred miles max. I was not expecting to see it, but it was so evident coming in yesterday from the west, that it couldn't be missed. Sort of like Obama's blue jeans---ugly, but hard not to stare at and wonder "Why?"

Elliott

I hear that Turnberry wants its heritage more appropriately recognized and thus should henceforth be called Turnbarack.

Neo

Warn us when you're going to poat something from Noonan

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

Semanticleo

Think of it as an investment, Maguire...

You know, like when y'all said we should GROW ourselves out of the Reagan and Bush Deficits.

I know that's all in the past, but there's that pesky ol' Republican BlowBack you New Whigs don't like to talk about.

Semanticleo

"The more he is shown to be shamelessly dishonest the less people will like him personally."

Truth to power?????

>chuckle>

Go ahead junior All-star. Knock yerself out.

GMax

Its getting ever so difficult to herd these cats:

Twenty-one freshman Democratic House members have signed a letter opposing their leadership's plan to raise taxes to finance a healthcare overhaul.

Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) circulated the letter, saying that the income surtax on the wealthy would place an undue burden on small businesses, some of which pay taxes in the same way as an individual. The letter had 22 signers, all freshmen except for Rep. Paul Hodes (D-N.H.), who is in his second term.

Semanticleo

"really to thrust Marxism on us,"

And don't forget Islam.

Did you know he once attended a madrassa?

Jane

HIT One of my few claim to fame in life.I'm a distant cousin of Tom Watson.

That's a pretty good claim to fame.

centralcal

Ibama has announced he is having another one of is Prime Time press conferences next Wednesday re: his health care takeover.

When I was at home for lunch today (after 3 pm for you East coasters) the anchors were waiting for Ibama to make a statement in the White House. And waiting. And waiting. 30 minutes later I had to return to work; does anyone know if he ever showed up? He really works his late routing to the hilt.

centralcal

routine

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