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July 10, 2009

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MayBee

The people who head up these campaigns are not smart except in one area--looking after themelves---- otherwise they wouldn't get paid so much to do such bad jobs of it.

They get paid so much because people donate so much. And the candidate isn't taxed on any of it, so it is free money to hand out to the dastards.

centralcal

I just hope that the many knives certain people are aiming at SP's back will find their perfect target - John McCain.

It looks like they are - albeit slowly, one by one.

PeterUK

The Great Climate Change Con Trick.
You might have seen it,but it is worth repeating.

narciso

These people are more persistent than ticks, lice, and chiggers, yet another
'ethics complaint', second in the week
since she said she was calling it quits:

Fresh Air

Schmidt and McCain ran the worst national campaign since Ford. I have no use for either of them. They are bums and if they want defeat with honor, they can gladly become Mediacrats.

Rob Crawford

If you go to China you can see the effects of runaway pollution from a different perspective, and that is probably the greater concern.

And if you look at the midwest of the US -- particularly the areas now known as the "rust belt" -- you can see what happens to areas that badly polluted once people decide to clean things up.

Don't worry about the planet's ability to process our messes. Excepting a few kilos of carefully sheltered and studied moon rocks, everything we've been playing around with was here when we started.

chip

I'd like to see the numbers on how many PHDs in the 'hard' sciences accept that man is the primary driver of climate change. So far, this has been modeled on computers - albeit with massive gaps in the data - and, as the recent cooling suggest, these models haven't quite got that predictive quality down yet.

There is a boatload of empirical evidence that evolution is a fact. Anthropogenic global warming? Not so much.

Rob Crawford

yet another 'ethics complaint', second in the week since she said she was calling it quits:

So long as her heart beats, they will pursue her. She showed them to be frauds, and they will never forgive her for that.

Ignatz

--Come on people, evolution is settled science. It is the best theory to describe the facts as we know them. Exact mechanisms are debated, but the notion that organisms have changed and new species arisen over the great march of time is not.--

When people speak of evolution they are generally not describing the notion that organisms have changed and new species arisen over the great march of time. The large majority of Christians I know believe that.
The controversy arises from precisely the question of what the mechanism is. That is the heart of any theory,; how something operates. The fossil record is an observation, not a theory.

Most evolutionary biologists engage in tautological arguments to deny any possibility that there is God's hand in anything they see.
Physicists on the whole seem considerably less threatened by the fact that what they are observing and discovering may be merely our observations of something considerably greater than either us or what we observe.
I wonder why that is.

PeterUK

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PeterUK

Ignatz,
Was not the "big Bang" an act of creation?
"Let there be light - I can wait".

Rob Crawford

Most evolutionary biologists engage in tautological arguments to deny any possibility that there is God's hand in anything they see.

No, they don't. The ones who do, however, get the most press attention.

Sue

My husband's response to whether there is a God...look around you...only a God could have created the beauty you see. And he isn't really religious.

glenda

Lordy Mercy!!

Another book from a Post or NYT "inside politics" column filler on the "real" story of campaigns, presidencies, NSA, CIA,....Yikes!

I miss the Middle Ages! By the time a story was told the subjects of it were dead!

OT: TM, are you doing a "refresher" thread on HP since the lines to the theaters are already forming for 12:01a.m. 7/15/09? For fun, I grabbed the HBP out of my cabinet yesterday, to remember things that will be left out of the movie!

Rob Crawford

Speaking of Science, Look what our new White House Science advisor used to believe back when he and the Ehrlich's were doing post-doc work with Dr. Mengele.

Well, that's interesting. Between those cheerful little goose-stepping ideas and the recent quote from Ginsburg in re Roe, it's quite apparent the "progressives" haven't lost their appetite for eugenics. They're just quieter about it than they used to be.

Thomas Collins

Ignatz, I think physicists (and for that matter, chemists, biochemists, molecular biologists and other folks doing actual laboratory science) are less threatened by discussions about evolution because their work measures uncertainty at a far more precise level than that of evolutionary biologists. Look, evolutionary biologists have done fine work on the tentative hypothesis of evolution, and the phenomena they are studying doesn't lend itself (at least at today's level of knowledge) to the mathematical precision that the physicists achieve. Furthermore, the genetic classification tree (to which CHACO pointed several threads ago) is certainly an advance in the classification of the relationship of various life forms to each other. But to speak of evolution as a theory in the sense that experimental science today usually refers to a theory is just plain silly. The mathematical measurements just aren't at a sufficient level of precision. I must admit, however, that it is hard for me to get worked up about the NY Times' treatment of science or anything else. The NY Times is the quintessential house organ of the oligarchic left. As Jerry Seinfeld might say, nothing wrong with that, but nothing to get overly worked up about.

Thomas Collins

By the way, to any evolutionary biologists out there who may be checking this thread, I really am sympathetic to your being ticked off at those who misstate the analysis of Wallace's paper and Darwin's books, and cite selectively from the fossil record. But I would politely suggest that, perhaps due to a feeling of being under siege from critics of your work, you really do oversell the level of certainty your work has reached. Furthermore, while folks such as Dawkins write interesting speculations, let's not mistake what they write as science.

hit and run

Clarice:
The people who head up these campaigns are not smart except in one area--looking after themelves---- otherwise they wouldn't get paid so much to do such bad jobs of it.

Nappy headed ho's.

clarice

O', afraid i cannot buy that reading of what Justice Ginsburg said.To be sure she spoke inartcully, but I believe she was saying she thought the eugenics argument was behind the SOTUS' ruling in Roe and realized that was not the case when they upheld the Hyde Amendment.

Remember, she's first and foremost a feminist and was, in effect, saying she had not believed the Court accepted the choice argument ...

Captain Hate

I think physicists (and for that matter, chemists, biochemists, molecular biologists and other folks doing actual laboratory science) are less threatened by discussions about evolution because their work measures uncertainty at a far more precise level than that of evolutionary biologists.

There's a physicist who used to be at Case Western Reserve University but subsequently went to Arizona State, Lawrence Kraus, who regularly pens op-eds badmouthing religion and how it has no place in conjunction with science. He's a smart guy, no doubt, but is overly in love with the sound of his voice and seeing his words in print. His real forte is marketing, having written books on the physics involved with Star Trek, which has an obvious appeal over a straight physics text by somebody arguably smarter. His ego refuses to admit fallibility in any of his pronouncements, which probably explains why he's held in fairly low esteem by his academic peers.

Stephanie

Clarice, I thought it could be read that way, too. Still it is "troubling" that someone whose every word is parsed and knows it will be parsed, expresses her thoughts so poorly.

Rob Crawford

O', afraid i cannot buy that reading of what Justice Ginsburg said.

It may be that SHE doesn't see a need for eugenic abortions, but, apparently, she believes there's not merely political support for the idea, but also that the idea is Constitutional.

Which, really, isn't all that better, is it?

Rob Crawford

In any case, now I know what Niven was reading when he came up with Gil Hamilton's job.

sbw

There are so many more interesting and useful questions... you know, ones that might be able to be answered... than notions of God's existence, or whether evolution is true. Popper reminded us that science is most useful falsifying hypotheses, not proving them true.

clarice

It was in an interview and while inartful, if you read the following sentences it becomes clearer. Taranto seems to read it the same way.

I must say this week I am feeling that many of the "gotcha", unfair characterizations and weak arguments that usually characterize the other side seem to be making their way to my inbox but this time from our own side. I don't like it when either side does that and deign to join in.

I'm probably crabbier than usual but it seems to me in the summer months when everyone seems to be chasing the same stories (if they are not on vacation) there seems to be an unspoken contest for outrageous claims to draw attention.

clarice

And if I wasn't already crabby enough I just read that the lady astronaut who drove cross country in a diaper ostensibly to attack the her boyfriend's new squeeze is now engaged to that guy.
UGH

Hope she gets her tubes tied or something.

Mike Huggins

PeterUK - re: Messy Earth. Oooooh, outcrop photos, strat sections, and planktonic forams. That warmed my heart, and is definitely not something you see too often around this quadrant of the blogosphere. Thanks!

Those Deccan Traps are sure messy, and widespread. It sure sucked to be an archosaur at the end of the Cretaceous.

Reminds me of one of my profs. He was for a global-warming induced die-off before the asteroid evidence showed up. Just like that he was old news. Afterwards, used to get sucked into his office to hear about "that G** d**ned Luis Alvarez - he helped develop the A-Bomb, you know." Supposedly, Alvarez told him that he was going to bury him, or squash him like a bug, or some such thing. it was a real eye-opener to see how vicious scientists can be with each other when there is scientific fame to be had.

clarice

Academics are generally particularly vicious toward their competitors which is amusing because in actuality there is so little at stake for them to be fighting over.

narciso

Common sense, seems in short supply, maybe it's the weather, maybe it's just free floating insanity, the memeorandum seems to be a testament to it, this set ofreplicating
memes that seem to swarm through the Sorosphere like kudzu had never heard that

I had theory about the extinction, wasn't it extreme cold that supposedly killed the dinosaurs. Evolution as currently understood
relies on randomness, and most physical processes involve precision, that can't be randomized.

Melinda Romanoff

If anyone is interested, Leon Lederman co-wrote a small book on the subject of God and particle physics, here's the wiki (LUN). The Higg's boson is a unique quest, in that it will confirm, or collapse, a whole field of particle physics (and it's funding) if, ws some think, that it was created in a CERN collision. The math that speculated it's existence, if confirmed, opens an enormous possibility of energy use and transformations.

There's a reason Einstein said that " God does not roll dice. ", most, I repeat, most physicists respect the slimmest probability that God's hand may be involved. Physics is, if you didn't know already, applied mathematics, and statistics, in particular. Schroedinger's Cat, and all that...

Oh, Daddy, that reminds me, I've got a couple of recommendations for cockpit reading, as far as physics is concerned (without the higher math requirements). I'll e-mail them, and a few mystery titles.

Ignatz

--No, they don't. The ones who do, however, get the most press attention.--

Rob,
I probably wasn't too clear.
By 'tautological argument' I wasn't referring to the goofy arguments of someone like Dawkins.
I meant the underlying assumption of so much evolutionary biology.
Natural selection is assumed to be the mechanism and therefore whatever is found to have occurred is given as evidence of natural selection even if it's utterly counter to whatever evidence was just discovered to have been completely compatible with natural selection shortly prior.
In that aspect evolutionary theory is not far from the global warming theory.

--and the phenomena they are studying doesn't lend itself (at least at today's level of knowledge) to the mathematical precision that the physicists achieve--

TC,

But they do seem to lend themselves to a lot of sloppy reasoning and guesswork parading as theory or hypothesis.

Global warming and evolution both have strong socio economic and political ramifications that astrophysics and a lot of the harder sciences don't, which leads to a lot of silly arguments against both. Unfortunately I think it also leads to a lot of bad and agenda driven science in support of both.

The basic philisophical problem I have is that all of the things we have discovered in the last century or so were seen as miraculous by humans previously. As we are able to understand the way the universe works our formerly ignorant miraculous assumptions are somehow seen as evidence that God's hand is not in any of it. Maybe instead they were evidence of our former ignorance and we are now able to see more clearly how He works. Scientists from past centuries seemed to grasp this. Now we seem to go directly from ignorance to hubris, with no middleground to even occupy anymore.

 Ann

PUK,

Thanks for the James Delingpole link. Prof. Plimer sounds like my kinda man:
"Eco-guilt is a first world luxury."

Melinda Romanoff

Ignatz-

I wrote that with you in mind. Sorry, should have been faster typing.

And the reason for bringing up statistics in physics (a big part!) is that the hand of God might be in the mix, one can't rule it out. It also leaves room for errors.

verner

"Eco-guilt is a first world luxury."

Whoa, great quote. Especially when it's based on bogus science.

But hey, if it makes some people feel better to wash and sort bottles and cans that end up in the land fill anyway, drive go carts, freeze in the winter, and burn up in the summer, eat lentils instead of beef and pay grifters an indulgence for their carbon footprint--whatever the heck that is--let them have at it. It's a free country.

Just don't try and make ME do it.

clarice

O'm feeling a bit less crabby. It appears the astronaut is not marrying diaper girl but rather the woman diaper girl tried to kill or maim or something.

Melinda Romanoff

PUK-

Thanks for that, bookmarked.

MayBee

"Eco-guilt is a first world luxury."

Whoa, great quote. Especially when it's based on bogus science.

I was arguing with someone yesterday after hearing Obama talk about his dreams of getting India to reduce greenhouse gasses.

I said they are still using elephants and camels as beasts of burden over there, do you really think they are going to limit their growth now, for our sake? The guy simply didn't believe me that they are still so undeveloped, even though there are big cities and luxurious buildings there.

But hey- it reminds me of one of my favorite cabon trading scams in the past few years, where some British charity was paying Indian farmers to keep using hand pumps for water rather than switching to gasoline pumps.

Neo
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.


Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.
Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
Melinda Romanoff

OT- For DrJ.

Chuck Soumer and John Larsen.

1970, from some local boys (for me, at least)

"Vehicle" by The Ides Of March (It's a song about a babysitter, believe it or not) (LUN)

And thanks to clarice, cause I finally figured out how to work the site.

Ignatz

Interesting point by Chris Horner over at the Corner today (Horner in bold, NYT in italics):

--As if to defiantly reaffirm its in-the-tank status, the New York Times dutifully struts forth today with an editorial, "A lesson on warming," which opens:--

--President Obama had hoped to emerge from this week’s Group of 8 summit meeting in Italy with a tentative agreement uniting rich and developing nations in a common fight against global warming. Instead he got a lesson on how divided the world remains on the issue — and how hard he will have to work to pull off an agreement.--

--Ah, yes. You may recall how for years the NYT's global-warming narrative was George W. Bush is standing in the world's way. The American Left promoted this meme gleefully, followed by the continent's sizable anti-American contingent and others seeking a distraction from their own woes, foibles, and ineptitudes. Bush did it!

Today, with no Bush to blame, well, let's just quietly say that the earnest Obama is finding the world in his way.--

Melinda Romanoff

Ignatz-

They agreed to "peg" global temperatures to two degrees Celsius. I want one of those nails. They must be magnificent. The hammer? They can keep it, i've got six or seven that'll do the job. I just need a couple of the those magic nails, and all my troubles will go away.

Ignatz

--They agreed to "peg" global temperatures to two degrees Celsius.--

Hokey smoke. That's like about 35 F right? Are they shooting for another 'snowball earth'?

It was really 2 degrees celsius over what? The temp from 100 years ago, or something right? They can't even agree on what the global average is now for Pete's sake.

I'm with SBW, there are lots more interesting things out there. Think I'll go over to ebaymotors and look at cars. :)

Ignatz

CO2 belching muscle cars and Jaguars that is.

Neo
And that’s why I’m so sceptical of these models, which have nothing to do with science or empiricism but are about torturing the data till it finally confesses.
Melinda Romanoff

If any one can tell, I've had a miserable week , my music choices should tip things off. I've been to too many funerals lately and my brother is going to his first Special Forces funeral and is having a tough time coping with the camaraderie of his fraternity brother's "new" team. He and I have been sharing a lot of stories and observations and admittances (on my part) that being a slobbering fool at a funeral is nothing to be ashamed about because it shows that you have a heart and spine at the same time.

I spent seven minutes at the office wiping my eyes because of this clip. It was heartening, and humbling. LUN.

Sue

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/psp.pdf>Unclassified Report on President's Surveillance Program. It's a pdf file. Interesting stuff. 43 pages.

Melinda Romanoff

Two degrees from the current normal range.

Steppin' out on the plank they were.

Melinda Romanoff

Here's the quote, in case someone cares to parse it beyond the parameters of the current language. I don't think I can translate from the UN usage so I'll just have to rely on each of you to translate it yourselves.

"In a statement, the leaders agreed that the increase in global average temperatures should not exceed 2 degrees Celsius over pre-industrial levels by 2020."

Which, by definition in UN terms, means turn the page, tell me when I'm getting paid.

If you need to see it, LUN.

Stephanie

Are there even temperatures that were recorded and available for the "pre-industrial" time frame at all the current data points (locations) that comprise the current average... if they can't produce temperatures taken at all the current data points to compare to the "pre-industrial" levels at those same points, then they are trying to make apples oranges.

DrJ

OT- For DrJ.

Chuck Soumer and John Larsen.

Goodness Mel, I hope you meant that in jest. I couldn't listen to the whole thing. If you want to go back to lead trumpets, I can post other things that are much more interesting.

FWIW, a high-school buddy of mine now makes some of the best horns in the world. Marsalis plays them; I think they sound a bit dark personally, but what do I know. I like the brighter sound of Schilke for lead work; Bach works better for orchestal things.

To the topic of the day, I agree with JMH (as happens pretty often): I don't see any inconsistency with acknowledging that which we cannot know, and not being uncomfortable with that in the slightest. My own work deals with reproducible physical properties of biological "stuff," and that has nothing to do with theology or evolution. At least not directly.

Also, I do think that Ventor deserves the credit for sequencing the human genome. Clinton got Collins and Ventor to agree to a tie, but in the end I think Ventor did do it. Even if it was his genome.

Sue

Pelosi is knee deep into it again. She was informed of the PSP in October 2001. I wonder how she is going to spin this?

 Ann

Melinda,

Thank you for linking that incredible footage of the America we still believe in and what an honor to that fallen soldier. I am still crying.

I will have to show it to my daughter because the first song on that video is one of her favorites and she plays it in my car a lot and she sings it very loud. :)

Now, if we could just chain Noonan, Quin, Dowd, Parker, and all the other women that hate Palin to the roadside and make them watch it. Maybe they would finally realize how small and stupid they look and how much someone like Sarah Palin is needed in this country.

Stephanie

((A former UCLA chancellor asked the California Supreme Court today to declare that the state constitution's requirement of two-thirds legislative votes to raise taxes is invalid.))

Will the last sane person out of California please turn out the lights?

LUN

Melinda Romanoff

DrJ-

I was just bragging about the local talent (I'm not one of them), and not wading into the Austin High stuff from the Near Southwest Side, be it Barret Deems, or Biederbecke. I have my taste of horns and Marsalis isn't one of them. Payton? Well now we're getting interesting..

Oh, and we're doing private server (mine), network drives, private domain for remote access and data duplication. I still want to e-mail, so is "info at" still good? I surfed the site and then got called away. Back later..

More later, I'm beat, and the whole shop has to move tomorrow. Oh, and I linked 152 pages of "What's next in the economy" from another good source>

G'Night all.

DrJ

I have my taste of horns and Marsalis isn't one of them.

Do hear his band some time. They are amazing. Tight, disciplined, great foundation with an upright bass, and wonderful talent. He gets great players. Winton himself I can take or leave.

((I still want to e-mail, so is "info at" still good?))

Yes.

narciso

This last two clips, from the Michael Dukes that I referenced from earlier, at the time of the WM bill, SArah understands the role that she needs to play, the Alinsky tactics and their application by Axelrod. I know Noonan and specially Quinn, understand none of it, but that's really their loss. It's been a long and hard trial by fire, but she gets it now

 Ann

Link to narciso's comments:

Gov Palin on the Michael Dukes Show pt 4 July 10, 2009

PD

Turns out that 18th ethics charge filed against Palin is historic. Heh.

Sue

The WaPo headline says "'Inappropriate' Secrecy Hurt Surveillance Effort, Report Says".

"Extraordinary and inappropriate" secrecy about a warrantless eavesdropping program undermined its effectiveness as a terrorism-fighting tool, government watchdogs have concluded in the first examination of one of the most contentious episodes of the Bush administration.

Yeah, because it wasn't like as soon as more people found out about it the NYTs would have it on their front page or anything. Let's tell the terrorists what we are doing so they won't do it anymore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/10/AR2009071002536.html>Source

PD

How does secrecy about a secret program make it less effective?

Stephanie

Noonan et al prefer checkers and Palin has executed the Queen's Gambit.

Just who is vapid and who isn't?

Sue

You'll have to ask someone besides me. The only thing I'm sure of now is why Pelosi didn't immediately begin impeachment hearings in 2007. She is in up to her eyeballs with every "secret" Bush had. Why the democrats aren't taking her to the woodshed, I'll never know.

Sue

Actually, PD, I do sort of know. If you read the entire 43 page report, not that many people in the IC knew about the program and when leads were given to them, they didn't know how the information was obtained and treated it like any other lead, useful but not overly excited about getting it.

Sue

Nowhere in the report does it say the PSP was used inappropriately. There is mention of "scary" memos, ie, threat assessments. Lots of stuff about the hospital visit with Ashcroft. Mostly, it is a political document. And poor Yoo is beaten to death. Maybe for good reason.

Sue

The program began because Tenet asked Hayden if he could give him more. Hayden responded not without more authorization than he had at the present. You know, connecting the dots that was sooooo important at one time. Bush authorized Hayden to begin setting up what became the President's Surveillance Program (PSP). In October 2001, Pelosi, Bob Graham and 2 republicans whose names escape me at the moment were briefed on the PSP. No objections were noted. Yoo wrote the final draft of the legal opinion after the PSP had already been used or had already been tested to see if it would work, I wasn't clear on that exactly. Pelosi, and the 3 others from congress were briefed 17 times between October 2001 and March 2004, when the Comey/Ashcroft/Card/Mueller/Gonzales kerfuffle happened at the hospital. The gang of 8 was brought in at that time (Rockefeller/Daschle/Harman/Pat Roberts from memory). 49 briefings were given in total. And the fools will pretend they knew nothing. Anyway, I'm cross-eyed from reading pdf files.

Nighters.

DrJ

Mel, I shouldn't post this after the evening libations. I put on Jaco and Birdland and played along on the piano. Simple song, actually, but you can't duplicate the bass slam on my simple piano. Even if it is a 6'4" grand. Needs tuning, actually.

daddy

If I can OT a bit:

Yesterday was day 1 of the the 3 day ">http://photoguide.jp/pix/thumbnails.php?album=49"> Narita Gion Festival in oldtown Narita Japan. It involves the citizens of the 10 precincts of this ancient temple town dressing up in tradional Japanese outfits, and pulling by large ropes huge wheeled Pagodas on carts thru the tiny winding streets, then doing a couple laps around ">http://www.naritasan.or.jp/"> the main Temple Complex. It is great fun to stand squashed amongst the bystanders against some shop wall as each Pagoda passes by to thunderous drumbeats and sing-songing chants of participants and observers alike, and even little kids in kimono's get to participate in pulling their precincts Pagoda. These pix are from the 2005 Festival, but luckily tomorrow I'll be back in town for the Sunday Finale. Colorful and very fun, and enhanced by stall merchants selling chocolate covered banana's on a stick and cold Sake! Bonzai!

Granny

To Melinda:
Thanks so much for the link to that wonderful video!! I have lived in the dark blue CA sludge too long to remember that "normal" people actually behave that way and it was good to be reminded. As it warns, you shouldn't watch unless you want your faith in people to be restored. Very moving!!

matt

Rich;

The problem is not the basic technologies. It is making them safer and more rapidly implementable. We need 100 plants today. The money from the stimulus bill should be redirected into cheap power.

If they can build power plants on this scale we can reduce our dependence on foreign oil to a minimum, generate cheap hydrogen, and solve the environmental issues people like Hansen are concerned about.

If we have cheap power it makes manufacturing, one of the backbones of the economy, more competitive. More jobs, real, high technology jobs, and better jobs all. the way around.

Hansen has survived 25 years at Goddard for a reason. Believe me, as someone who grew up as the son of a rocket scientist and heard this stuff at the dinner table, you don't do that if you're completely full of it. Look at the last Director. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if his objectives do not restrict mine and can help us achieve a sensible long term goal.

matt

Daddy;

I am so jealous. I love that stuff. The festivals are wonderful, and completely quirky.

I just love the hypocrisy of the Dems on the surveillance programs and false outrage. What did Nancy know and when did she know it?

There is a reason, after all, they call them spooks.

Janet

Thank you so much Melinda for the link at 11:18...Oh my. I am so thankful to our great God for creating each of these Americans that choose to serve. What would we do without them? They are our best...
And God bless the citizens of Georgia...

peter

DrJ
I agree with your assessment of Marsalis, although most of his siblings seem pretty talented. Wynton is the least cool of them.

And 6'4" grand--I'm guessing a Sauter or a Bosendorfer?

Pops

And did the New York Times ask the scientist, or their own newspaper, for that matter, why they changed from "GLOBAL WARMING" to 'Climate Change'??

Seems like that would be a very good question since literally every thing we do including breath changes the 'climate' even to an infinitesimal degree.

Parking Lot

Clarice

((And if I wasn't already crabby enough I just read that the lady astronaut who drove cross country in a diaper ostensibly to attack the her boyfriend's new squeeze is now engaged to that guy.))

I haven't read downthread .. maybe someone else has asked this, but isn't the engaged woman the almost victim Shipman, not the diaper lady Nowak???

((Kepler Funk, a Melbourne attorney who represents Colleen Shipman, said Friday that she and former space shuttle pilot Bill Oefelein have gotten engaged..))

Fox News Story

peter

Was David Brooks getting hit on by a gay US Senator? And if so, whom? Wide stance? LUN

Parking Lot

Melinda

((I've got a couple of recommendations for cockpit reading, as far as physics is concerned (without the higher math requirements). I'll e-mail them, and a few mystery titles.))

I'm going to order "The God Particle..." today. Thank you for posting about it. Would you mind sharing the other titles?

Parking Lot

Wow this thread is so interesting in so many ways ... I don't think I'll ever get through it.

narciso

The structure of the PSP is very much like the original plan that Forrestal set for COMINT which became the NSA. The fact that the plan worked for twenty five years is the point. But it's in keeping with everything in their M.O. undermine anything
that works,

Pagar

Melinda, That was a Super link @ 11:18. Someone in the military retired community usually gets those out quick, but I hadn't seen that one.

I don't know whether I can get this to post right but here is a article that says it is a email that a soldier in his third tour in Iraq wrote concerning the MJ memorial.

http://www.truckingboards.com/trucking/upload/general-truck-drivers-forum/63592-letter-soldier-about-michael-jackson-memorial.html
clarice

daddy, My son was 2 y.o. when we took him to beautiful Narita. He has blonde curly hair and was considered quite an oddity in those days ar places like Narita. Hundreds of school children were touring and each tried to touch his hair.
I remember it was a rainy day and all the children were wearing white and had clear plastic raincoats--not a speak of dirt on any of them. Amazing!

DrJ

And 6'4" grand--I'm guessing a Sauter or a Bosendorfer?

I wish -- it is a 1913 Baltimore Knabe.

jean

Melinda, your link was so beautiful and so sad.Thanks

Melinda Romanoff

Nothing says "Moving Day" like light showers. The more expensive the move, the heavier they are.

And Caution should also be noted for the video I linked to earlier, the host, Theo, can be quite naughty.

I think that might have come from the police community. It was definitely filmed from a cruiser.

Later all.

Old Lurker

Missed you all the last few days.

How excited I am to read in Sat's WSJ how the cost of the House's health plan will be paid by increasing tax rates on producers from 35% to 45% with the option of going to 50% Fed rates in a couple of years if more money is needed. Yes of course I'm rounding off the meanlingless trailing fraction to focus on the main point which is this monumentally stupid expansion of govt benefits is to be paid for almost entirely by people they think are stupid enough to leave their wallets on the park bench. Add the blue state hell of another 10%+ and you have a total tax on producers of more than 60% just around the corner.

Folks that is just not gonna happen. A society simply cannot last that votes to provide massive benefits to part of the population to be paid for, in this case, by "the top 1% of earners". This is exactly the trap that explodes when we exclude, what is it now?, 54% of the earners from almost all Fed Income Taxes. This proposal will jack that number of freeloaders even more.

jean

SUE Thanks for reading the report on PSP and explaining it.

jean

OL I'm afraid it will happen.There are a lot of Sylvias in congress.

narciso

That site that you LUNed, PD is a little off the beaten path, look at the links at the bottom left, Now this guy who filed the complaint, is a real piece of work, it's like he keeps the courts in business, up there Also if you notice his atty is
the Johnson's atty, and even that of the Palin relative who was caught breaking and entering

Old Lurker

"And 6'4" grand--I'm guessing a Sauter or a Bosendorfer?

I wish -- it is a 1913 Baltimore Knabe."

Still cool DrJ. We have just had returned to us a 1923 Steinway about that size that has been in the family for most of that time and it too became almost impossible to keep in tune. Feeling flush a few years ago, we shipped it back to Steinway where it was completely disassembled into its gazillion parts and then rebuilt from the ground up. Most importantly, the sound board was intact so now we have the benefits of functioning mechanics and the sound of a vintage instrument. How neat is that!

Probably couldn't do that again if Rangle and Obama expect me to pay the health costs of all those illegals and other freeloaders who won't pay for their own.

Grrr.


Old Lurker

I know, Jean.

Makes me sad more than anything.

DrJ

a 1923 Steinway about that size

Probably a Model A, thought I don't recall when they stopped making them. My brother has a B, which is probably the best model they have ever made.

Steinway has a great color range -- no one does the iron fist like Steinway. My Knabe sounds more delicate. Beautiful in its own way, but it is more limited in its color.

Pagar

A Gateway Pundit story just to show that Gov Palin and Joe the Plumber aren't the only ones scheduled to be destroyed:

In response, Democrats and the state-run media are going to scrutinize and destroy firefighter Frank Ricci who is testifying against the judge this coming week.
Parking Lot

((Probably couldn't do that again if Rangle and Obama expect me to pay the health costs of all those illegals and other freeloaders who won't pay for their own.))

Ironically if rgw US does end up with Obamacare it will kill socialized health care elsewhere. Canada's socialized health care has been able to stumble along mainly due to US prosperity. When to finance health care, US personal income taxes rise, US overall prosperity will lessen, and Canada, being the US's biggest trading partner, will see its prosperity diminish as well. Then Canada's taxes will have to increase to augment the loss.

So Obamacare will either kill Canada's system or move Canadian taxes up to close to 100%. Which is really the underlying goal of national health care systems, isn't it? And with Canadians so attached to their entitlement programs, the higher taxes to maintain socialized medicine probably won't be that much of a hard sell.

Rick Ballard

OL,

There is also a problem with the diminishing pool of the "rich". The (D)irty Fascist organized theft program posits '07-'08 levels of income. Tax receipts indicate the pool has gotten much smaller very quickly.

The (D)irty Fascists will need to go to 150% taxation in order to fund the Free Food for Locust Act.

clarice

There's always some cheer to be found in even the grimmest news, Rick. I am certain that a significant number of those out of the big payers pool this year are brokers and financial types and lawyers who knew better and shoveled money to Ibama anyway.

Sue

Jean,

You're welcome, but trust me, I only gave you the barest of what was in there. It is very interesting reading.

Narciso,

I was wondering the same thing last night. Tenet asked Hayden if there wasn't more he could give him. Hayden responded not without further authorization. They didn't just come up with this out of the blue. I'm thinking Tenet had had this conversation with the prior administration and was refused.

narciso

Yep, they went for 'hope over experience' and the articulate young attorney, gets um
almost every time

clarice

Ras has Ibama at -7 again today.

Captain Hate

A former UCLA chancellor asked the California Supreme Court today to declare that the state constitution's requirement of two-thirds legislative votes to raise taxes is invalid.

If he's so worried about it he can voluntarily pay as much as his or her conscience will dictate. The generosity of libs and all that....

Captain Hate

I agree with your assessment of Marsalis, although most of his siblings seem pretty talented. Wynton is the least cool of them.

Don't get me started on Marsalis Inc, aided and abetted by jazz hobbyist Ken Burns and his dweeby PBS sociology stories posing as history, which totally ignored the recent European jazzers (particularly in the UK and Amsterdam) or any goddamn thing being played in the clubs, which is the only thing above room temperature in the genre. Not that I'm opinionated or anything....

I meant to post this yesterday after something in the WSJ spiked my blood pressure: Has the term "intellectual" ever been more debased than when applied to Cornel West?

narciso

I read the Zombie summary, and it's terrifying, it's like Brave New World and Logan's Run, all blended together. There really is no doubt about this guy's intent.
And he's shown that he doesn't give a tinker's damn about consent of the governed

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