The Green Giant

The NY Times tells us about China's commitment to wind and solar power:

DUNHUANG, China — As the United States takes its first steps toward mandating that power companies generate more electricity from renewable sources, China already has a similar requirement and is investing billions to remake itself into a green energy superpower.

Through a combination of carrots and sticks, Beijing is starting to change how this country generates energy. Although coal remains the biggest energy source and is almost certain to stay that way, the rise of renewable energy, especially wind power, is helping to slow China’s steep growth in emissions of global warming gases.

While the House of Representatives approved a requirement last week that American utilities generate more of their power from renewable sources of energy, and the Senate will consider similar proposals over the summer, China imposed such a requirement almost two years ago.

This year China is on track to pass the United States as the world’s largest market for wind turbines — after doubling wind power capacity in each of the last four years. State-owned power companies are competing to see which can build solar plants fastest, though these projects are much smaller than the wind projects. And other green energy projects, like burning farm waste to generate electricity, are sprouting up.

This oasis town deep in the Gobi Desert along the famed Silk Road and the surrounding wilderness of beige sand dunes and vast gravel wastelands has become a center of China’s drive to lead the world in wind and solar energy.

Check out the Times slideshow and you can see how siting the projects in the Gobi desert solved the NIMBY problem.  Or let's hear it from the man:

“It’s the Gobi Desert,” said Wang Yu, the vice director of economic planning. “There’s not much other use for it.”

As we saw during the Beijing Olympics China has an air pollution problem.  But they also have a national security issue with their energy supply that is similar to that facing the United States, since China imports oil from the same crazy people and places.

China's green push is aided and abetted by their committed government, with uncertain results:

Some top Chinese regulators even worry that Beijing’s mandates are pushing companies too far too fast. The companies may be deliberately underbidding for the right to build new projects and then planning to go back to the government later and demand compensation once the projects lose money.

“The problem is we have so many stupid enterprises,” said Li Junfeng, who is the deputy director general for energy research at China’s top economic planning agency and the secretary general of the government-run Renewable Energy Industries Association.

Stupid enterprises and a wasteful government?  Nah, that could never happen here.

Comments

[LTC John]

"Stupid enterprises and a wasteful government? Nah, that could never happen here."

Quite so. Our GOSPLAN is so much smarter than theirs!

[Danube of Thought]

First, we need to mandate the repeal of a few laws of physics. And while we're at it, we could enact a law requiring that the value of pi be exactly 3. Then it would be much easier to calculate circumferences and stuff like that.

[Rick Ballard]

"The winning bidder was China Guangdong Nuclear Power Company, an entirely state-owned business that bid 16 cents a kilowatt hour."....

"By comparison, the grid buys electricity from coal-fired power plants for 4 to 5 cents a kilowatt hour.">

So it only takes a 300-400% government subsidy to make the projects viable. Sounds like a fantastic Great Leap Forward.

Isn't the Gobi Desert somewhat distant from the places which actually use the power in China? I seem to recall having heard something about power loss in transmission - perhaps that was overturned by legislation as well?

[Rick Ballard]

Damn - sorry about the italics.

[boris]

Italiacto! (IE anyway)

[Danube of Thought]

No new Ras Index until Monday. I don't know how I'll survive.

[BB Key]

Waxman is going to be on CSPAN's Washington Journal for an hour on Monday morning.
There are a variety of ways to ask him questions: phone, email,and twitter.
I am working on some questions now:
"WTF did you do to my country?"

[Old Dad]

The Times also loved Stalin's technological wonders.

The Times and China can both go to hell.

[bad]

Clarice, that Washington Post story you posted back on the "Orchestrated" thread is really extraordinary.

And of course, no one knows anything, despite the fliers advertising the pricey rave.

[bad]

Happy Anniversery, Sue and Mr. Sue!! Are you going to have roast pig on a spit for July 4th?

[Sue]

bad,

::grin::

Not hardly. I can't stand wild hog meat.

[bad]

When my grandparents windmill couldn't run due to lack of wind, my granddad hooked up the gasoline generator to keep the water flowing.

[bad]

BTW, POLITICO has the story on the Washington post's quest for money:

Washington Post publisher Katharine Weymouth said today she was canceling plans for an exclusive "salon" at her home where for as much as $250,000, the Post offered lobbyists and association executives off-the-record access to "those powerful few" — Obama administration officials, members of Congress, and even the paper’s own reporters and editors.

The astonishing offer was detailed in a flier circulated Wednesday to a health care lobbyist, who provided it to a reporter because the lobbyist said he felt it was a conflict for the paper to charge for access to, as the flier says, its “health care reporting and editorial staff."

HINT!! It was all the fault of the marketing department. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

LUN

[PeterUK]

Meanwhile,a friend who imports from China has told his suppliers that he wants to renegotiate the contracts since the cheap goods are getting too expensive for him the wholesale.
Whilst this is not directly connected to the Gadarene dash to Green,the costs incurred by greenishness will impact China;s exports.

[glasater]

Is Katherine Weymouth also known as "Lolly" Weymouth--Kay Graham's daughter?
Had seen her in some interviews a couple of years ago and "Lolly" seemed somewhat reasonable in her conversation at the time. Wonder what happened?

[DrJ]

That's "Lally" but yes, Kay Graham's daughter.

[Extaneus]

That flier was a sight to see. I posted a copy of it on the other thread, from PowerLine. Really a classic thing of beauty if you haven't see it.

[Ignatz]

China is going down the same road trod by every industrializing managed economy; rapid, seemingly unstoppable growth built upon the quicksand of state planning.
The completely managed ones like the USSR are a fake from the start.
The hybrids like China and Japan grow until the teetering, bloated public sector finally falls over and they try to save something from the rubble.
China had probably another ten to twenty years of that rapid growth left (and they may still), but the present meltdown threatens to end it right here and now. The bad debt they were carrying was a growing threat even four or five years ago when the whole world was growing. Now they are throwing vastly more money at every bank and government boondoggle, which is only expanding the bad debts.

They're throwing gasoline on the fire in an attempt to stay warm, apparently not realizing they're already standing in a puddle of the stuff.

[hit and run]

See the "JOM special" in the memeorandum feed below?

R. Jeffrey Smith / Washington Post:
Court Filing Shows Evidence Cheney Swayed White House Response to CIA Leak

Sounds like a yawner, but oh well.

And Matt Lewis tweets:

TX Repubs finally find their bogeyman? ... Ronnie Earle -- the D.A. who took down Tom DeLay -- is running for TX Gov.

Of course he is.

[Sue]

OT, but our little town is holding its second TEA party tonight. We even have the honor of our esteemed representative, and I say that with the utmost respect, not sarc, showing up. AND, the governor of our great state of Texas is going to be here speaking at the event. How awesome is that? Our local newspaper even has a front page, above-fold, news article, bi-lined by the editor (and owner), something he never does. It also says, in the article, that over 400 attended the first one in April, with little to no advance warning or advertising. I can't wait to see how many show up this evening!

[bad]

I've met sacks of shit far superior to Ronnie Earle.

[Sue]

TX Repubs finally find their bogeyman? ... Ronnie Earle -- the D.A. who took down Tom DeLay -- is running for TX Gov.

OMG. Outside of Austin, and people obsessed with the news (like me) no one in Texas even knows who he is. That should be interesting. He went after Kay Bailey Hutchison in a sham too. And she is running against Perry. It really should be a show down in Texas.

[Gmax]

Ronnie Earle will get beat like a dog when grannie farts. He wont get more than 39% of the vote. I will take anyone's bet that says he will.

[RichatUF]

Ignatz-

Now they are throwing vastly more money at every bank and government boondoggle, which is only expanding the bad debts...

And it is also flowing into all commodities for hoarding (once that excess demand dries up wonder where the bottom will be), their equities markets, and leaking out into HK and Singapore.

By building the windfarms in the Gobi they can then turn to the starry-eyed Westerns and cult believers in global warming and have them finance the costs for the transmission lines. But don't tell the starry-eyed Westerners that GE is building a nat gas and coal fired power plants that will also be attached to those same power lines.

And Parking Lot, thanks for the Sweden link on the other thread. Don't know what to make of it, but a - .25% deposit rate really is a bad idea. Sweden is outside of the euro so they do have tools that they can use that say Spain and Ireland can't.

And I hope everyone enjoys their 4th of July holiday. Happy Independence Day.

[Gmax]

now?

[Gmax]

this time for sure1

[Porchlight]

That's great, Sue. Can't wait to hear how it goes. Joe the Plumber is speaking at one of the Austin tea parties right now. Unfortunately here I am at work. :(

[Porchlight]

Ronnie Earle, eh? I will actively campaign for Perry then. I don't see any reason to get on the KayBay train.

[Sue]

Porch,

I wish he would surprise us here. Anyway, I'll report back after the event. It is scheduled to start at 6:30.

[bad]

Krauthammer in the WaPimp:

Ricci left Sotomayor relatively unscathed. But not affirmative action. Ricci raised the bar considerably on overt discrimination against one racial group simply to undo the unintentionally racially skewed results of otherwise fair and objective employment procedures (in this case, examinations).

I hope Krauthammer is right.

LUN

[Patrick R. Sullivan]

Don't the NYT reporters read Krugman? He was complaining about the Chinese reluctance to do anything about their emissions just a few weeks ago.
As Keith Hennessey told it:

I now see that I was eight days behind Dr. Paul Krugman in identifying this challenge. On May 14th, he wrote in his New York Times column “Empire of Carbon”:

'(T)he people I talk to are increasingly optimistic that Congress will soon establish a cap-and-trade system that limits emissions of greenhouse gases, with the limits growing steadily tighter over time. And once America acts, we can expect much of the world to follow our lead.

'… But that still leaves the problem of China, where I have been for most of the last week. … But China cannot continue along its current path because the planet can’t handle the strain. … And the growth of emissions from China — already the world’s largest producer of carbon dioxide — is one main reason for this new pessimism.'

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

bad:

So long as Kennedy, Scalia, Roberts, Alito and Thomas stay on the Court, Krauthammer is right. If any of them leave while Obagama is in office, all bets are off.

[sdferr]

Is Katherine Weymouth also known as "Lally" Weymouth--Kay Graham's daughter?

No.

Katherine Weymouth is Lally Weymouth's daughter and Katherine Graham's grand-daughter.

[Patrick R. Sullivan]

Continuing with Keith Hennessey's post, 'Smoot-Krugman'

Dr. Krugman appears to believe that, if China does not slow its global greenhouse emissions growth, actions by the rest of the world will be insufficient to significantly slow global emissions. Krugman: “In January, China announced that it plans to continue its reliance on coal as its main energy source and that to feed its economic growth it will increase coal production 30 percent by 2015. That’s a decision that, all by itself, will swamp any emissions reductions elsewhere.” I agree with him on this point.

I agree with Dr. Krugman’s read of the official Chinese position: “So what is to be done about the China problem? Nothing, say the Chinese. Each time I raised the issue during my visit, I was met with outraged declarations that it was unfair to expect China to limit its use of fossil fuels.” This is consistent with what I know about the Chinese position from our Administration negotiators in 2007 and 2008 , and with what the Financial Times reported last Friday: “Beijing reiterated its belief that developing countries, including China, should curb emissions on a voluntary basis, and only if the cuts ‘accord with their national situations and sustainable development strategies.’”

Translation: We’re not setting a domestic carbon price. The Chinese are proposing that the U.S. and other rich nations choose answer (B) Carrots from my menu above: rich countries pay China to reduce their emissions.

[PeterUK]

Thought for Today.

"'(T)he people I talk to are increasingly optimistic that Congress will soon establish a cap-and-trade system that limits emissions of greenhouse gases, with the limits growing steadily tighter over time. And once America acts, we can expect much of the world to follow our lead."

What to do when all the money has been spent on Green Insanity and nothing happens , carbon levels keep rising???

[Ignatz]

--And it is also flowing into all commodities for hoarding--

Rich,

I read an article somewhere about that, including lumber. I had considered the 60% rise in lumber futures one of those so called green shoots although there was no equivalent rise in building.
If it was just an artifact of Chinese churning then perhaps all green shoots are grass (a little biblical humor there).
And lumber futures ARE down about 10% from the recent high so maybe that excess demand is already drying up.

[bad]

What to do when all the money has been spent on Green Insanity and nothing happens , carbon levels keep rising???

That's easy!! We'll double down and go to even stupider extremes because previous "investments" were not enough.

[DebinNC]

Texas is thriving, but the msm has no interest in why. More jobs created in TX last year than all other states combined? Balanced budget with $9B surplus? No income tax? YAWN...nothing to see here, sheeple...move along, little dogies.

[PD]

At least President True Possum is showing leadership on the green front. A couple of days ago he gave us the facts on how much we could save by moving to compact fluorescent bulbs. In fact, said he, the White House will be moving to such bulbs to show his commitment to this effort.

I saw this reported on FOX by Major Garrett speaking to Shep. I understand that Shep is not much liked in these parts, but he did a good thing in this instance by asking Garrett whether Pres. Bush hadn't already done this? That's right, affirmed Garrett, Bush had already converted most of the WH to CFLs.

So there you have it. Obama announcing an "initiative" in which he takes credit for something done by someone else, without acknowledging or crediting that prior effort.

There is a word for this ungracious,grasping attitude: Niggardly.

[PD]

And to follow up on Obama's push for CFLs: I'm surprised there's so little reaction to this. It's a chance to make it another of his "tire pressure guage" moments.

[glasater]

Thanks sdferr and DrJ-

Think I'll try to "corner" the market on incandescent light bulbs:)

[Rick Ballard]

"And lumber futures ARE down about 10% from the recent high so maybe that excess demand is already drying up."

"Excess demand" - that's really a great circumlocution. I like to think of hordes of Chinese standing in front of mountains of iron ore, bought with borrowed money, waiting for the orders to arrive.

I just can't quite see a mercantilist slaver economy doing all that well at the moment - even if it adopts the very best features of a cargo cult.

[bad]

I HATE the light from CFLs. The entire house we rented on the ocean was lit with CFLs. Only negative of the whole trip.

The rest of the bads hate them more than I do.

[bad]

Byron York regarding the IG firing:

For its part, the White House is hinting broadly that it might invoke executive privilege to keep documents from Congress. “Your questions seek information about the White House’s internal decision-making process,” Craig wrote to Sen. Charles Grassley on June 30. “These questions implicate core executive branch confidentiality interests.” At another point, Craig pledged to cooperate “to the fullest extent possible consistent with constitutional and statutory obligations.” The message, apparently, is for GOP investigators to back off. But that hasn’t happened. In his letter to the White House, Issa is still trying to get information. “The White House’s willingness to provide the facts” about the Walpin firing, wrote Issa, “will go a long way to demonstrate the president is committed to running the most transparent White House in history.”

Gee TM, here's another one for your "When Bush did it" bestseller list.

LUN

[RichatUF]

PeterUK-

carbon levels keep rising...

And why would that be? With declining industrial production and higher energy costs, carbon emmissions are going to decline because the economy is going to decline. But at least it will be "heroic poverty". Technology can only take only so much waste and inefficiency out of an industrial system.

This green business regarding China has a wiff of Fenton. Maybe I should re-examine why I don't believe that a green bubble will inflate?

Ignatz-

We may have read the same article, but it was something I was thinking about for a while. The problem with hoarding is that their is only so much storage space and once global prices reach a point it becomes economical to stop buying and start consuming the hoard.

[RichatUF]

crap->that their there

[RichatUF]

Rick-

even if it adopts the very best features of a cargo cult.

LOL. I hadn't even thought of it that way.

[Soylent Red]

It really should be a show down in Texas.

My vote still goes to Kinky.

[RichatUF]

"Excess demand" - that's really a great circumlocution.

I'm sure there is a real economics term for it, but I haven't looked. I suppose hoarding would be the most accurate.

[PaulL]

Rasmussen is the best pollster, and one of the reasons is how slowly his polls change. When there is a big shift on a particular day, it's usually noise, and shouldn't be paid much attention to.

Obama is definitely going down, that is the trend. It's not as fast as I would like, but it's solid dissipation.

Since he's always in campaign mode, I don't see how he can ever jump way up in the polls by getting *more* exposure.

[rse]

I've spent the last several summers in Florida along the panhandle. Rentals are down this summer and for shorter periods than a week in many cases.

They are still coming from Texas and Tennessee though and more willing to spend at much the same rate as previous years.

I think this greater level of relative prosperity this summer has a lot to do with both states lack of state income taxes.

The Texans also seem to think now is a good time to buy a beach house. Alabamans and Georgians seem to want to sell and not eat out.

Anecdotal, but interesting to observe.

[PeterUK]

"And why would that be? With declining industrial production and higher energy costs, carbon emmissions are going to decline because the economy is going to decline. But at least it will be "heroic poverty". Technology can only take only so much waste and inefficiency out of an industrial system."

Perhaps the rise in carbon levels are due to other causes other than industry. What if the isn't,and there probably won't be,any change in Climate Change?

[PeterUK]

"That's right, affirmed Garrett, Bush had already converted most of the WH to CFLs."

Which is good because Obama probably doesn't know how to change a light bulb.

[Gmax]

Thats not fair PUK. Between him and Biden there is half a brain, which should easily be able to figure out how to screw in a bulb. They both have figured out how to screw all of us, after all.

[Porchlight]

We use CFLs in our high-use lamps and outdoor fixtures to save money but I don't like 'em. The light they give off is ugly.

[Ignatz]

--We may have read the same article, but it was something I was thinking about for a while. The problem with hoarding is that their is only so much storage space and once global prices reach a point it becomes economical to stop buying and start consuming the hoard.--

Rich,

The article I read indicated a lot of it was speculation going on by Chinese GS wannabes. IOW no hoarding, as delivery never actually occurs; they just trade in and out of the contracts.
I have no doubt hoarding is occurring, as too much free money always induces suspect responses, but a lot of it appears merely to be froth, such as this, which, although it may not be directly Chinese money, seems related to the Asian froth.

Slightly OT,

Anybody see House of Cards by David Faber on CNBC? Pretty pathetic, misses at least half the story.
Never have figured out why they call him "The Brain" unless it's a reference to "Pinky and the".

[Danube of Thought]

Here are my good news/bad news predictions about the two issues I'm following the closest:

(1) Cap-and-Trade will not pass, and may not even come to the floor in the Senate.

(2) A health care bill including a public option will pass.

Anybody else want to go on record on these?

[Rick Ballard]

Rich,

I wonder why the Ogabe Regime doesn't trumpet this report? The report notes in the second sentence that - "This was the eighth consecutive month that net generation was down compared to the same calendar month in the prior year." It's also the eight month since a particularly notable event and I'm certainly willing to give Ogabe's election a tremendous amount of responsibility for the drop in the consumption of electricity. I believe that there is a better than average chance that electrical usage in '10 will be lower than '09. Even if '10 does come in somewhat colder than the already below average '09.

[hit and run]

Igantz, did you get the all clear on your property? You cutting and hauling trees these days? I like your presence here, obviously, but I hope that that doesn't mean you're still being held up...

[RichatUF]

PeterUK-

I jumped into the middle of my point. The "credits" will be allocated based on industrial pollution (among all the other political criteria). Less economic activity=less industrial pollution, the basis of how they will allocate the "credits".

[PeterUK]

Mr Ballard,
I you persist with this defeatist talk you might find yourself chained to one of the oars on the Imperial Barge.

[Gmax]

DOT

I dont think the public option will pass either. My own democrat sources are telling me they dont the votes are there for the public option. Too many Democrats in Red States, plus Lieberman wont play and several other Democrat Senators are expected to leave the reservation on this one.

Their will be some kind of health care bill, but it wont make anyone happy. Not the rabid libs, nor conservatives. Seems like a lose lose situation for Obama, which of course pleases me greatly.

[PeterUK]

RichatUF,
There will be more "pollution",think of the emissions from the team of oxen pulling your SUV.

[Captain Hate]

Obama is definitely going down, that is the trend. It's not as fast as I would like, but it's solid dissipation.

Since he's always in campaign mode, I don't see how he can ever jump way up in the polls by getting *more* exposure.

He can't and when the bloom is off the rose it'll be permanent because of how petulant Il Douche gets when he faces a less than enthralled media. When people like Paglia, Dershowitz and Hitchens jump off the bandwagon it will be permanent because they've always believed him to be something he isn't. It's one thing to have no principles like Slick, and be able to reinvent yourself to fit the mood of the country; Bammers has principles and their aim is to weaken the US.

[Rick Ballard]

Krugman - Stimulate Me Again, Master

He wants to go to 9V - the 4 C cell version just isn't enough for Paul.

[hit and run]

Rick:
Krugman - Stimulate Me Again, Master

Rich Lowry said something like, great should be pulsing through the economy some time in 2015.

My first thought...yikes...just in time for Obama to pull a Zelaya seeking a third term.

[Fresh Air]

This is another piece of crap thumbsucker from the Slimes.

China has no interest in limiting its growth, especially not for some B.S. "green" rationale. China and India have now surpassed the U.S. in carbon emissions.

From the WaPimp, a mere two years ago (4-25-07):

The Chinese and the others are fiercely resistant to the idea of CO2 cuts being imposed on them, as they feel they should be entirely free to pursue economic growth, just as western countries have done for 200 years. They also still have much lower carbon emissions in per capita terms than do western nations.
...
Mr Birol emphasised the scale of the problem yesterday by pointing out that in the next eight years alone, the Chinese would install, as new, as much energy generating plant as currently exists today in all of the 25 countries of the expanded European Union- a total of 800 gigawatts.

Ninety per cent of this would be coal-fired, that is, producing the most C02, and most of this, he said, would last for 50 to 60 years - "you can't shut down a power station after five or 10 years as that would be economic suicide". He said: "If we can't influence China and India in their coming energy business decisions, we will be locked in, and we will have to live with the consequences for half a century or more."

Another dipshit writer from the Slimes swings and misses.

[Fresh Air]

Stimulate Me Again, Master

He wants to go to 9V - the 4 C cell version just isn't enough for Paul.

Wasn't one of the "reporters" for CNN found in Central Park with his pants around his ankles, hooked up to one of those things?

[Danube of Thought]

Sure hope you're right, GMax--I'd love to see this asshole suffer a couple of big defeats on proposals that richly deserve to be defeated.

[Ignatz]

--Igantz, did you get the all clear on your property?--

Should be ready middle of next week, Hit.
The forester did his last owl camp out and jamboree on Wednesday night. He actually has to camp out by the meadow and then about midnight play a recording of an owl hooting to see if a real one answers. I offered to lend him my shotgun but fortunately it was an owl free zone.
Currently I'm debating whether to log it myself or contract it out. Just about all the loggers are idle around here and will work for food so to speak, so I'm doing a little penciling to see which makes more sense.

[Jane]

I've got a tin foil hat question that I've been contemplating for weeks. Anyone care to ponder it with me?

Let's say, for the sake of argument that the president is not just stupid but he is also evil. He wants to ally with Chavez, Castro and Ahmadinejad, not to bring peace but to bring transformation from America to Obamaworld. And in Obamaworld the Constitution is replaced by whatever Obama wants it to be.

Axelrod and Jarrett and others have been there since the beginning, so they are on board. But what about Emmanual and those not in on it? What happens when they figure out where this is going? Do they stand up for the country or stand down for the power?

Okay that may be too moonbattery even for me, but I keep coming back to it.

[Ignatz]

--Krugman - Stimulate Me Again, Master
He wants to go to 9V - the 4 C cell version just isn't enough for Paul.--

That's not too clear to me, Rick. Are you saying that Krugman wants to put his tongue on Barry's battery?

[Ignatz]

--It's one thing to have no principles like Slick, and be able to reinvent yourself to fit the mood of the country; Bammers has principles and their aim is to weaken the US.--

Aint it the truth, Cap'n?
You've captured Barry in a nutshell, perfectly.

[Fresh Air]

Jane--

Do they stand up for the country or stand down for the power?

I'm sure they would love to try to implement a dictatorship, but like all liberals, they are ultimately cowards. It will never happen. If they tried, the riots that would ensue in Washington would make 1968 look like an ice cream social.

[Jane]

I just want to know who in the administration will peel off, and who will trade in America for Obama - win or lose.

[Rick Ballard]

Ignatz,

I cannot conceive of anything that Krugman would not do to advance his agenda. It's nice to see him in full panic mode over a jobs report that has been telegraphed via tax deposits for weeks. It speaks world's about his competence as a credentialed moron.

[Rick Ballard]

Jane,

Larry Summers might find the principles he evidently mislaid when he accepted the Regime job. The rest of them will hang on until they are sure of the wind shift. Then they'll abandon the commie bastard in droves. That's what their lack of principles demands and that's what they'll do.

[PeterUK]

"Do they stand up for the country or stand down for the power?

I'm sure they would love to try to implement a dictatorship, but like all liberals, they are ultimately cowards."

Plus,they would be first against the wall.

"Yon Rhamius hath a lean and hungry look,he thinks too much,such men are dangerous".
Translated into Russian with a Georgian accent.

[hit and run]

Ignatz:
Currently I'm debating whether to log it myself or contract it out. Just about all the loggers are idle around here and will work for food

Hey, I'm not doing much these days and I'm really good with a chainsaw.

Ask Clarice.

Oh, and my college mascot was the Lumberjacks. Honest to goodness truth.

[PeterUK]

Food AND drink and he;s bankrupt.

[clarice]

Hit has this quote from Ibama:
"that has caused big problems with Michelle and I."

Once again, the lavishly rewarded author and editor of the HLV reveals his utter unfamiliarity with the basic rules of English grammar..

In fact, I do not recall a single instance of an impromptu remark of his not full of such stuff.

[hit and run]

Twitter: Palin not running for re-election in AK...

[MayBee]

I don't either, clarice. Or I should say, Me don't either.

[Rick Ballard]

I neither.

[bad]

In fact, I do not recall a single instance of an impromptu remark of his not full of such stuff.

Just more confirmation that Ibama is full of it.

[hit and run]

Us is in agreement then.

[PeterUK]

Is we?

[lonetown]

Windmills are one of the oldest sources of power known to man, dating back at least 4000 years ago. You know what they said whn oil came along?

Yippee!

[bad]

Part of me wishes Sarah would cash in big and just enjoy her wonderful family.

[RichatUF]

Thank's Rick for the Krugman op-ed. A line-by-line fisking would ruin a prefectly good Friday, but this is too ridiculous to pass up:

There won’t be any cooperation from Republican leaders, who have settled on a strategy of total opposition, unconstrained by facts or logic. Indeed, these leaders responded to the latest job numbers by proclaiming the failure of the Obama economic plan. That’s ludicrous, of course. The administration warned from the beginning that it would be several quarters before the plan had any major positive effects.

Except for the fact that the Turdulus was passed with 3 nominal Republican US Senators and the Dems have working control in the House. Obama doesn't need the Republicans now anyway-Soros was able to get the riduculous Franken into office in MN, so he should be able to bully 50+ votes everytime.

And wow, the Governor isn't running for re-election.

[Rick Ballard]

H&R,

Pssst - careful about the logging. Ignatz mentioned pulling 100 feet of 1" cable uphill. If it's above 5,000 feet, that's like dragging your refrigerator clear around your house. On loose sand. It's only 185 pounds but I think he expects it to be done more than once a week.

[PeterUK]

RichatUF,

Republican intransigence is the meme du jour. The Democrats are still in opposition,like all neotenic socialists,Democrats can't be responsible for their own actions.

Obama won fair and square,it's his bat and ball,time to play the game,do a little presidenting..

[RichatUF]

Oh and me forgot other point.

Obama's own economic team said over and over again it was necessary and that it would have an immediate impact. Why else would they have printed the famous graph? It was the opposition, quoting Dr. Romer's work at Berekely, who were saying that tax cuts would have a more stimulative effect.

So was the last weeks trashing of Governor Palin because some folks got wind that she wasn't running for re-election and want to make sure she doesn't run in 2012.

[DebinNC]

Except for the fact that the Turdulus was passed with 3 nominal Republican US Senators

I hope that vote haunts Arlen forever, and other RHINOS take note.

Part of me wishes Sarah would cash in big and just enjoy her wonderful family.

Pretty much all of me wishes that.

[clarice]

We could start a "Talk Like Obama" week..In fact, why don't we..and announce it and get everyone to join in. Ridicule is the best way to take this Mr and Mrs Poseur and all their fawning fans down.

[Jane]

Sarah is stepping down today apparently

[hit and run]

bad:
Part of me wishes Sarah would cash in big and just enjoy her wonderful family.

Well, not only is she not running again, she's resigning in a few weeks.

I can't possibly see that as a move by someone with designs on 2012.

And I can't imagine any good reason for it, and I truly hope there isn't something horrible that has caused it...(health, scandal, "soul mate", etc).

[Gmax]

2 Republicans not three. Arlen did not yet make official what was obvious to all that had been observing for years, true. But it was at best two republicans and a soon to be traitor. We can discuss the Maine bobsie twins, but for now I guess I will claim them but hell no on Specter.

[hit and run]

Now this from twitter:

She did not take questions or give indications as to her future plans. Palin is expected to announce a run for the presidency at some point.

Call me Joe Befuddled.

[MayBee]

My favorite Obama misspeak so far was when he was announcing the release of our captain from the Somali pirates, and Obama spoke out against "privacy". No one hounded him for it, but it is my secret joy.