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August 17, 2009



What would the HHS secretary know about health care policy coming from the WH? I mean really, who are you going to believe, the gal Obama picked to head up his HEALTH and Human Service cabinet post and department or some slub reacting to the netroots flinging poo from out of their cage again...

Jim Ryan

Maybe the lefties crashed the site by howling about this fishy stuff. Canadian CMA presidents say Canadian health insurance is "imploding"? They gotta be on U.S. ins. industry's payroll, right?


Obamacare is as dead as Clintoncare. Americans DO NOT WANT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. The Obama administration is just going to have to figure out how to make the loss look like some sort of win and salvage the next three years.

As for the fishy email site--I hope whoever thought of that one got booted. They'll never live it down. I bet the emails telling fishy.gov what a stalinist thug Obama was outweighed the snitches by about 100 to one.


I bet the emails telling fishy.gov what a stalinist thug Obama was outweighed the snitches by about 100 to one.

Yep. I can't decide whether it's hard to believe they could be so clueless as to set that thing up, or whether it's quite easy to believe. Depressing either way.


"As for the fishy email site--I hope whoever thought of that one got booted."

Her name is Linda Douglass. She is a reporter for ABCNews now working directly inside the White House.

She's still working for Obama.


((and last...my pet peeve...the STASI site - [email protected] is still up. Still time to rat out your family, friends, neighbors, and acquaintances.

Posted by: Janet | August 17, 2009 at 05:27 AM ))

This was my early morning post on the other thread today. In celebration, we can all go out and rent the DVD "The Lives of Others"


As for the email system ... it's being revamped, I suspect, since it was way too easy to plug just anyone's email address into it resulting in the recipient being deluged with Linda Douglass' picture.


See this Politico piece:


Jack is Back!

White House press corp except for one Major Garrett and at times Jake Tapper are complete pussy cats and pawns of deception. Garrett blew this thing wide open and Meagyn Kelly continues to make Bill Barton her personal punching bag. The got caught in a Nixonian caper and now pay the price by having to close it down. But Linda can still go back to work at ABC since its almost like she never left.


Health concession fuels blowback

Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman, went so far as to say Democrats should try to “tackle health reform another time.”

“You can’t really have reform without a public option,” Dean said on CBS News’s “The Early Show. “If you don’t want to have the public option, … just do a little insurance reform … and then we’ll tackle health reform another time. But let’s not pretend we’re doing reform without a public option.

And strategist James Carville became the first leading Democrat to suggest publicly that there might be political advantage in letting Republicans “kill” health care.

“Put a bill out there, make them filibuster it, make them be what they are, the party of no,” Carville said. “Let them kill it. Let them kill it with the interest group money, then run against them. That's what we ought to do.”


--White House press corp except for one Major Garrett and at times Jake Tapper are complete pussy cats and pawns of deception.--



Has anyone turned Katherine Sebilius and her "no public option" lie into the flag website?


--Put a bill out there, make them filibuster it, make them be what they are, the party of no,” Carville said. “Let them kill it.--

That's usin yer dipstick Jimmy. Should fly well with Franken now seated as the 60th Dem.
Total control of the government and they still whine about laying it off on the Reps when the public tells them to shove off.
Why do they let this rube, who is one of the prime architects of 12 years of Republican rule, out of his playpen?

Not many things more fun than watching infants getting in trouble while playing dress up in the grown up's clothes.

Original MikeS

President Bush fought for years to get computerized medical records. He got a lot of resistance from Democrats and the NYT who had privacy concerns. They were afraid some third parties might get a hold of private medical records and use them to send out unwanted emails, or something.


They wont push for this because they are scared that the American people will beat the living snot out of anyone not in a blue prog hell district. Carville is just blowing smoke.

Jack is Back!


The world is flat. Yesterday Y. E. Yang of South Korea bested Tiger Woods by 3 shots to win the PGA at Hazeltine. First time in 11 majors where Tiger had the 54 hole lead that he was beaten and a first for Yang being the first Asian to win a major golf championship. He gets to go to Bermuda in October to play in the PGA Grand Slam at newly renovated Port Royal. You know Port Royal, don't ya? That's were our friends, the Uighurs from Gitmo are working.


Rob Crawford

As for the fishy email site--I hope whoever thought of that one got booted.

Oh, please. A divorce now, with two small children in the family, would ruin her chance for an IL senate seat in 2012!

Rob Crawford

Why do they let this rube [Carville], who is one of the prime architects of 12 years of Republican rule, out of his playpen?

The bigger question is why anyone in the professional media bothers to interview him. He and his wife have quite a scam going -- stir up shit, and no matter which party wins, they're the media's go-to drones!


Well, it looks like a few people are really taking the idea of using Alinky's rules against the left. http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjQ2MjAzYzRkOTI3OTdlYjljZDNkMjdiNGY2YTQyMTE=>This bit at the corner for example. Here's a taste:

Now, let me be blunt: Michelle Obama, the product of lifelong affirmative-action coddling, is an intellectual lightweight who fancies herself a serious thinker. Just read her Princeton senior thesis, an intermittently coherent stream-of-consciousness pile of leftist jargon, campus pseudo-seriousness, and racial-identity babble. Can there be any doubt that the Princeton administrators accepted it only because of her skin color?

To me this looks designed to provoke her into joining the debate, at which point her participation in the UofC Hospital dumping of poorer people on local clinics can be raised as an example of how Obamacare will "bend the cost curve."

the bishop

Are they really this stupid, did they forget
the last 14 years, They have a filibuster proof Senate, and they're still whining. The answer they have the memory of a 'ferret
on double expresso' a modification of a Dennis Millerism, they see Carville, they think Clinton, they forget that Morris bailed them out

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Did anyone else watch the new version of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" last night?

They had a question regarding a NYT crossword where the clue was "blue state." The black contestant missed the question and got booted before even reaching the $1000 mark. The correct answer was "melancholy." But, the contestant picked choice #2, "communist." I laughed so hard, my sides hurt.


Those same "lower level staffers" that plagued the campaign now continue to bedevil the Obama White House.

I wonder what the White House will do with the e-mails from the discussion group for the works of Emily Dickinson that I signed them up for.



I have friends in Bermuda who sent me an article from their local paper (8-14). The Uighers are now working at Port Royal...I can see the headlines now......Moslem Terrorists cause disturbance at PGA.

Cecil Turner

As for the fishy email site--I hope whoever thought of that one got booted.

Are we sure it was Douglass? Maybe the Ayerses brought the idea back from their recent trip to Cuba. The concept has been a mainstay for some time now:

Beyond official government enforcement bodies, government sponsored community organizations known as Committees for the Defense of the Revolution reach into every Cuban neighborhood encouraging citizens to monitor each other. According to Castro, the intention was to create a, "system of collective revolutionary vigilance so that everyone will know who everyone else is ... what they devote themselves to, who they meet with, what activities they take part in."ii Community organizers known as block captains run patriotic group activities. The role of the captains is to report and spy on those who do not participate.

the bishop

No, he remembers it from his first trip in 1966, although the Bolivarian Committees in Caracas, are a close second

Dave (in MA)

Sara, that is great.

Dave (in MA)

I flagged myself on Friday and heard nothing back -- but my wife called me and said there were some guys walking around in the yard when she came home and they took off when she asked them what was going on. Sounds fishy to me.

Fresh Air

And strategist James Carville became the first leading Democrat to suggest publicly that there might be political advantage in letting Republicans “kill” health care.

Well, Serpenthead, I should think the reverse might be true. Let the Mediacrats pass the thing and then we'll see who takes the blame for it in 2010. Jay Cost nailed this. Zero was not elected with a "mandate" to turn the U.S. into a socialist country. In fact, he barely had a mandate to do anything at all except have excess pigmentation in his skin and Not Be Bush. The bottom line on the whole mess is this and Crap & Charade are simply the pent-up childish fantasies dwelling in the hearts of leftwing radicals like Waxman for 30-odd years. They don't care what the voters want; they just want to reify their fantasies.


Looks like the White House has raised the white flag on the snitch site. Linda Douglass, the moron who created it, sadly, remains employed:



"The role of the captains is to report and spy on those who do not participate."

Remarkable, Castro creates programs and WH staffers implement them.

Bill in AZ

I'm sorta bummed about the fish site. I forwarded emails that I got from barackobama.com with:

"This looks fishy. This group sounds like Communists. Please investigate this group".

Now I don't get emails from barackobama.com anymore. What's up with that?


Another Joe the Plumber. There is no doubt that this young man's life is about to take a turn for the worse. It needs documenting.


The page that called for "fishy" information to be reported still seems to be up. It's even been updated - there is now a new "Reality Check" page, apparently. On the whitehouse.gov site, mind you - not on a campaign site.



Why do they let this rube, who is one of the prime architects of 12 years of Republican rule, out of his playpen?

Meanwhile, Rush just played a clip from Carville's partner (Begala), talking about how insignificant Sarah Palin is intellectually. She doesn't have "intellectual heft," he says. You can just hear the contempt dripping in his voice.

Rush's comment: If she's so stupid and Obama's so brilliant, why did she win the debate on death panels?

Listening to Begala opine about how someone else is stupid, just just know what he's also saying is how he's so smart. But someone who's smart doesn't need to tell anyone else. What a doofus.


How will the WaPo report the ending of [email protected] when they have never reported on it?


and Jaed is right, the blog post is still up listing the email address.


PUK - great video. What a well spoken young man. The guy that answered him was a bit of a rambling blowhard, but the questioner was exceptional.


Sounds fishy to me.


Keep my number on speed dial. I'll come rescue you - and TC will too. WE have to stick together. (You too Rocco)!


OT: Mark Steyn (undocumented radio talk show host) sitting in for Rush tomorrow.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Just saw this at Talk Left:

The cast for the upcoming season of Dancing With the Stars was announced today. Making the cut: Former Congressman Tom DeLay.

Sorry for no link but Typepad isn't allowing one.


Janet,Isn't it. I urge everyone to watch it as one of the greatest examples of Obamaian extruded effluvium extant.


If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,

I can't help it. That cracks me up every time.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

And for those of you who admit to being big Dancing with the Stars fans, here is the rest of the line up for the upcoming season:

The complete cast for season nine of ABC's Dancing With The Stars:

Mya, singer
Melissa Joan Hart, actress
Michael Irvin, former Dallas Cowboy
Ashley Hamilton, actor, comedian, singer-songwriter
Aaron Carter, singer
Kathy Ireland, former supermodel-turned-businesswoman
Debi Mazar, actress
Natalie Coughlin, U.S. Olympic swimmer
Louie Vito, snowboarder
Chuck Liddell, ultimate fighting champ
Donny Osmond, singer
Tom DeLay, former Republican congressman
Macy Gray, singer
Joanna Krupa, model and actress
Mark Dacascos, Iron Chef personality
Kelly Osbourne, reality star

Dave (in MA)

What cracks me up every time is how the same people who think taking money away from people who work for a living will help the economy are the same people who consider someone who's successfully run a state stupid.

Dave (in MA)


Dave (in MA)

Vero Poissonomus.


Too funny Dave - I love Latin. It makes statements sound so boldly important.
Vero Poissonomus!

Dave (in MA)

Janet, I think it would have been Vero Piscis in Latin, but the mangled French was more like the one from the Official Seal of Dear Leader.


Obama: True Possum


They've just gone to a new reporting mechanism, the iSqueal:


(Yeah, that's a bit of shameless self promotion.)

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Shot of the day


Sara (Pal2Pal)

Poor Dan, maybe he still has a chance at a career doing Rodney Dangerfield impressions:

60 Minutes Chief: Dan Rather’s Work ‘Not Even Close to the Standards We Expect’


Dan Rather's work is just fine for the luckiest idiot in the world, Mark Cuban who sold Broadcast.com to Yahoo for a gazillion even though there is some major question about what they got for the purchase. When he is not embarassing the NBA ( no mean feat BTW ) he has a cable channel that no one watches where the Asshat Rather is allowed to prattle on about something or other, I never watch so I dont know his spiel these days.


OT: We discussed this a little bit over the weekend on another thread and today the Politico reports:

"ColorOfChange, an African-American online political organization that’s targeted Beck’s advertisers since his calling Obama a “racist,” says in a release that eight companies confirmed today they’re pulling ads from the top-rated Fox News show. The list of 20 companies now includes Wal-Mart, CVS, and Best Buy."

This is making me nervous. I think these folks are finding a new power and will, per usual, get drunk on it. If they succeed with getting Beck out, no conservative leaning host will be safe.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Beck is barely 2nd to O'Reilly as Fox's most popular show, so they are cutting off their own noses. If Beck and even O'R decide to make this an issue with their viewers, I guarantee these companies will be sorry they started a fight.


when was the last time a president declared war on a media outlet? Nixon? hmmmm....Obama = Nixon? What a great headline.....


"when was the last time a president declared war on a media outlet? "

"Diversity Czar" Lloyd: Regulating Conservative Stations Within an Inch of Their Lives

If this person is not a declaration of war on conservative communications, I don't know what is.

Allowing this appointment to stand is the same as conservatives signing a surrender document, IMO

Ann The Mannequin

I want dibs on Andy McCarthy. He is clobbering the NRO staff and defending Palin. He gets it.

Rosslyn Smith at AT has a pretty good round up of other blogs. Even ACE is coming around. Here is the money quote:

Andrew McCarthy: I can't spare this woman. She fights

Absolutely love that!!


O/T - The madness is spinning out of control...on Sept. 17th 2 men will go on trial for praying at a school luncheon. LUN

I don't have the words...

cruella de centralcal

From AOSHQ comes this piece taken from Newsweek's Jonathan Alter:

"The United States has two parties now—the Obama Party and the Fox Party. The Obama Party is larger, but it is unfocused and its troops are whiny. The Fox Party, which shows up en masse to harass politicians, is noisy and practiced in the art of simplistic obstruction."

Chad, the blogger at Ace's highlights the "bias," but I would say it is jealousy. NO, Mr. Alter, the Obama party isn't larger, and it is shrinking all the time, rather rapidly, in fact. I am a proud member of the Fox Party and we are the ones that are growing and gaining.

God willing, we will continue to.

it hits the fan

This program isn't over. It's just changing venues.

What follows is an examination of the federal government’s attempts to track the web habits of every single citizen in the United States that merely visits a government site for the purpose of gaining information from a government that is supposed to serve them. This current dust up about spammed emails and reporting on your neighbors is but a symptom of a much greater disease, intentionally transmitted by the federal government behind your back and without your best interests in mind. Big Brother IS Watching You


Yeah, Ann, that was a good comment by McCarthy. Disappointing that he had to write it, though.

I guess Lowrey has something to do with the NRO editorials, and he's probably still embarrassed about his piece in which he referred to the tingle he got when he (paraphrasing) "felt like she was winking at me" during the VP debate, or whenever she did the wink. Meanwhile, she was winking at third-graders, wasn't she?

It was a stupid piece, and he's probably still compensating for it at home and elsewhere.

cruella de centralcal

Ann, I hope Andrew shames some of his cohorts into finding their cojones and their voices in joining Sarah. I have on occasion disagreed with Andy (Fitz being a prime example, but there were other times also), but in this he is absolutely correct.

The left is organized and absolutely ruthless. We don't have to stoop to their level, but we do have to fight - even fight dirty - if we are to defeat them.

glenda "baby buns"

need to catch up, but--oooooh--Steyn is on Hannity with an I LOVE JANE pin on!

Dave (in MA)

Took me a while. Is there some regional accent where "nazi" sounds like "knotsie"?

Ann The Mannequin

Amen Ladies!

Lowry tried to wink at McCarthy and say they were really on the same page. McCarthy was having none of it: Re: Re: Palin Was Right . . . [Andy McCarthy]

And if you haven't checked out Conservatives4Palin.com, go over there. It is impressive.

Here is their piece on the NRO Infighting About Palin

NRO's editors take aim at Palin, and instead end up shooting themselves in the foot. Proof if proof were needed that when it comes to the issues that really matter you're better off reading Facebook than the magazine of the late (and sorely missed) William F. Buckley.
And that is just a tease...read it all. :)
the bishop

Yeah he probably got a fair amount of grief about that, but the main point where he should have stopped, was that she projects
even when she is physically present like the face book page, because she is willing to go the distance, to fight the battles that others have long declared over, because
they are either unable or unwilling to fight.

Too many in our party have dissapointed with bold words and little follow through.
Gingrich, Sanford, Ensign, McCain to various
degrees are a symbol of this. You would think with everything I've learned I'd be more cynical, but I guess I'm more a punch
drunk idealist than before

Captain Hate

Listening to Begala opine about how someone else is stupid, just just know what he's also saying is how he's so smart. But someone who's smart doesn't need to tell anyone else. What a doofus.

The Forehead is such a metro douche! Carville is sort of funny in an Al Capp kind of a way; he'd be drawn as a snake rattling out an incomprehensible stream of gibberish as hillbilly gals with giant cans (Al was a young boy's favorite newspaper cartoonist) roll their eyes and look away. Carville would make an excellent fulltime spokesman for SEC football (which I've seen him do on occasion) because it's not too intellectually challenging plus I don't have to look at his wife's hideous over-use of makeup.

The Forehead is like your weird second cousin who lives by himself that your wife badgers into inviting him to Thanksgiving, where you have to keep him from the kids; not because he'd go perv on them but because there's the risk they'd get mad with him and tie him up with duct-tape with the turkey baster stuck in his caboose. Sarah could geld him with a wink.

Ann The Mannequin

That is why we ♥ you, narciso.

glenda "baby buns"

Ann the Mannequin...NRO peeps with their noses in the air re: Palin need to get over it--do they really think their erudite blogs are what got the folks out to the townhalls?? I think Palin gives out courage, and it's up to us whether we grab on to it! ♥

the bishop

Thanks Ann, I followed that whole long thread on Flicker, which puts your concern about which pictures appear here in perspective It's probably still too easy to figure me out, despite my "The Saint meets Monty Python handle" BTW, I've been following NR for a little more than 20 years now, they've gradually started losing contact, with the base, and even sensible people in the middle. In my college years I followed the American Spectator, Commentary, the WSJ editorial page.

I maybe afraid to find out, but who's
'chimpy nuts'

cruella de centralcal

Ann: thanks annie banannie for the link to Conservatives4Palin.

Sadly, they are so right about KLO, Lowry, Goldberg et al.

bad to the bone

Windansea, I think...

Ann The Mannequin

glenda, you will like this:

When she speaks, people listen. When she doesn't speak, people wait for her to do so. No other political leader has this power. Who else could have changed the entire health care debate with a few well-written Facebook notes? She has achieved this by completely eschewing conventional wisdom and, despite this conventional wisdom, has emerged stronger and more influential than ever before.
-Doug Brady at Conservatives4Palin

cruella de centralcal

oh, and before I leave for the evening, I just want to tell Narciso, that I absolutely LOVE his new moniker!

It is so you!


Speaking of NRO, Ramesh Ponnuru linked TM today (the post yesterday about O's grandma):

Your Memory [Ramesh Ponnuru]

is "simply dishonest."

08/17 05:29 PM Share

Ann The Mannequin

You are welcome, fellow mobsters! ;)

bad, I think you are correct about windandsea.

It looks like breathless Noonan has finally figured out Obama. She is now comparing him to Carter. ha ha ha

How long do you think it will take her to figure out Palin? My guess would be just about the time she can find something in it for Peggy.

the bishop

Thanks Cruella, I tried a number of them, before I found the right one, using name
and blog name combinations to get the tight

John Cunningham

I had some fun turning in all my liberal friends to [email protected], also sending in some spam emails.

the new site is http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/contact
fun to post some stuff on there, names like Prof. Jacques Miehov, Fonda Cox, Lique Spittle, etc.


"The Bishop!

Ann The Mannequin


I always skip over Ramesh Ponnuru at NRO, so thanks for that.

This is probably nothing but I found it interesting. The latimesblog wrote about one of Obama's professors: Obama's Oxy professor reports: 'He still didn't agree about that grade'

They have a picture of student Obama with a reference at the bottom that says:

Bottom photo: Barack Obama, seen in the photo he submitted with his 1979 college application. Credit: Occidental College

You can even see the staple mark on the top of the photo. So they have the application. Someone approved the use of the picture; why not the entire application? transcripts? grades?

Chimpy Nuts

yes, I am Chimpy Nuts

I blame Bush

Chimpy Nuts

"After Obama was elected, you had all of these people who basically saw him as the second coming of Christ," Alkhateeb said. "From my perspective, there wasn't much substance to him."

Obama Joker artist unmasked: A fellow Chicagoan

He is a college student, Palestian/American and liberal Kucinich supporter.

there is a God......and he has an exquisite sense of humor :)

Strawman Cometh

Steyn, unsurprisingly, 4 square with Andy, and brilliant, again LUN

Stephanie "the Ice Pick"

Sure is quiet around here tonight...

Sue The Bastard

I think Sarah needs to go after Obama's czars now.

Ann The Mannequin

He is a college student, Palestian/American and liberal Kucinich supporter.

there is a God......and he has an exquisite sense of humor :)

I do love it! Will they continue to call us all racists, now?

Of course, they will!

They have gotten away with it for so long that they can not imagine an electronic world where Google, cell phones, Utube videos, cell phone pictures, emails, blogs, Twitter, and Sarah Palin Facebook pages just might be there undoing.

The guy is even from Chicago! ROFLMAO...Woo Hoo!!

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