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August 16, 2009



His grandma died two days before he was elected. What was so pressing that he couldn't travel to HI and attend her funeral the next week? Nothing.

Campaign ad: My mother died of cancer at 53. In those last painful months, she was more worried about paying her medical bills than getting well.

She died in 1995 when BO was 34, a member of an influential Chicago law firm, a law "professor", and a successful author. What did he do to relieve her worry? Did he visit her in HI? Did he help pay her bills? I bet not.

Mike G in Corvallis

The guy's a walking case study.

Reminds me of a science fiction novel I read a few years ago. We pick up radio signals from an extraterrestrial civilization, and beam them the contents of the Encyclopedia Britannica to tell them about Earth. Their first response is the question, "Why do you choose insane males to lead your societies?"


The man is a bloody grave robber!

Ann The Mannequin

The man is a bloody grave robber!

I think that is where he found his wife.



What did he do to relieve her worry? Did he visit her in HI? Did he help pay her bills? I bet not.

He may have been too busy with his book release. She died just four months after it was published.

(Note: I'm not making excuses for him. If it were my mom it wouldn't matter about any damn book.)

Another Dreams From My Father quote I just came across: "For my grandparents, my admission into Punahou Academy heralded the start of something grand, an elevation in the family status that they took great pains to let everyone know."

Barack, you see, took great pains to let everyone know that on top of being a typical white person, his grandmother was also a social climber.

Isn't he charming? What a nice grandson.

Ann The Mannequin

Will someone tell Michelle she is the FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES!


At the very least, tell her to get a bigger size.

Original MikeS

I am sorry that Barack's grandma got old and passed away.

But..., I don't believe excessive government control of medicine in the U.S. will bring her back to life or prevent old age and death for anyone.

As I am growing older, I know that someday I too will die. I just hope that some bureaucrat doesn't get to decide when or how I will die.

on death's doorstep for so long that death has filed a restraining order.

I am totally stealing that.


He doesn't seem to realize that she may have been proudest of the fact that, his being half-black, she still got him into that school. Or maybe he does, and that's what's eating him about her. Or maybe that was one of the reasons he got in, and he's covering that.

See, when a man lies to you, and exposes himself as one with ulterior motives, it's difficult to take what he says at face value.

the bishop

I try to be respectful and not like Nelson Muntz, "ha ha" but words, fail with that picture, there is casual and then there's don't give a darn,

In the same category, some of the Senate GOP are already to consider co-ops, sight
unseen, it's like Charlie Brown and the football, how about lets read the bill then decide.

General surgeon

For those of you that haven't realized this yet, our new Chief Medical Officer Obama is an idiot. He doesn't know jack about medicine.

Hip fractures in the elderly are quite common. Frail, elderly folks fall in the nursing home, get admitted to the local hospital, and have surgery.


The orthopedic surgeon "pins" the hip. Guys that do this often are good at it and the surgery is relatively less invasive and substantially less expensive than a hip replacement.

A hip replacement is done for chronic osteoarthritis, not typically for a fracture. The hip prosthesis is quite expensive and the operation is big. The screw used to pin a hip is not an expensive item.

So, the whole issue is ridiculous. I would call it a canard if I didn't think Obo was such a freakin' idiot.

And NONE of the people in Washington, short of those who are doctors, really understand health care. The physicians and surgeons in the House and Senate who I have heard speak are good.

So, if the current discourse is any indicator, health care reform is going to be a nightmare. What you see is as good as it is going to get.

Think DMV when you think of you doctor's office and insurance company.

Good luck with that.


General Surgeon,
Ignorance or another lie? I suppose if he had actually been there he would have spoken to the doctor who would have clued him up.


If you look very closely you'll see stings attached to Barry. The guy who is pulling his strings is his father. Not the human one, but That One. This guy is straight out of the Bible. if you need to know whom I talking about, the you haven't been paying attention.

Jim Ryan

You mean you-know-who is "seeing through his head"?


"At the very least, tell her to get a bigger size."

Bigger size of what?

Jane will cause you pain

If you look very closely you'll see stings attached to Barry. The guy who is pulling his strings is his father. Not the human one, but That One.

Actually I think its Rahm. The Presidebt is simply an empty suit taking great joy in the notion that he pulled one over on the world.

Fresh Air


That is nasty.

Fresh Air


Thanks for the note. So when will Zero appoint Bill Frist to head the Healthcare Overhaul Commission?

Jim Ryan

She woke up that morning and decided to take one of these.

Jane will cause you pain

Don Surber nails it;

An Army of Sarahs



I heard someone on Fox say that the issue wasn't whether they'd pull the plug on grandma, but whether they'd put the plug in at all.


I am becoming convinced that the vast majority of leftist, as evidenced here by Obama, are actually mentally ill in that believe it is completely normal to state polar opposite things without any indication that they are contradicting themselves completely.

Hell, Obama does it repeatedly in his asinine speeches and his leftist idiots cheer in unison at both lies. Just last week, Obama started a speeches playing on his messianic uniter nonsense and ending the speech by telling those who dared disagree with him to just shut up.

But as to this point, Obama can say and do anything and his media lovers will marvel at his "sophistication" and "nuance". Obama entire campaign was comprised of telling whatever audience he happened to be front of whatever he calculated would get their votes. Doesn't everyone remember his Iran is a non-threat followed by the next day, Iran is a grave threat? How he could not disavow Wright followed by his disavow?

To show how Obama is full of shi*e, look at his speech in Ohio where he was sounding all tough on NAFTA and his lackey sent the email to Canada saying "Don't worry that is just a lie to get elected". Well, ole Barry "fired" him right, WRONG, nobody in the MSM seems to have reported that this lackey is now back as an advisor in the WH. Obama "fired" him until he heat was off then brought him back.


Jeez. Michelle could wear anything in the world and she wore that? Why not a crisp little outdoorsy shirtdress or something? Save the tight shorts and baggy tank top for when the cameras can't find her.


This guy is straight out of the Bible.

For Obama so loved the world he gave his only grandmother?

Jim Treacher


JM Hanes


"Anyone who has seen a loved one die is not so glib in the recounting of the experience."

My father died at home almost 10 years ago, and there are things about those last few days which still feel like a sock in the stomach. It's hard even to write that in a post.

Jane will cause you pain

Bravo Jim!


"This guy is straight out of the Bible."

Of course he is "Revelations".


Me too,the only reason I mentioned it is because there seems to be a systemic failure in care in the final days in the lives of many.
For Obama to use this as a political prop is offensive beyond words.

the bishop

In the LUN, an analysis of some of the other crazyness in this bill.

JM Hanes


You have an unerring eye! It's not just the sloppy clothes, it's that she doesn't know enough to bring an experienced advisor on board, or thinks she doesn't need one. That should be one of anybody's first hires. There's a very simple way to get out of a car without looking like a galut. It's even easier when you've got long legs.


I just want to know why it's so risible and dishonest and horrendous that Palin works the "widely discredited" death panel point, but Obama has been pimping a dishonest, lying, idiotic "HC Reform will save us money" that has been demolished by the CBO, but he's given a free pass.

JM Hanes


Not just any political prop either, but as a testament to his own sensibilities.

Fresh Air


Just think of leftists as adult Peter Pans. They reify fantasies and live in them. Actors are actually the characters they plan on television. "Virtual" friends are the same as real ones. Beliefs become facts, emotions arguments. This is world where linear thinking does not exist. I think like all mental illnesses, though, there are gradations. I would place Zero and 90 percent of the press in the Grade 5 Idiot category.


"A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic." --Joseph Stalin

Teh Won must be channeling, these days.

Ann The Mannequin

Fresh Air,

Agreed. I have never seen anything like it. While the press give her fashion awards and titles of "Fashion Icon", she can't bother to represent our nation as First Lady. I am sure she loathes the title and obviously doesn't give a hoot.

I have seen better dressed ladies garbage diving in Ohio. Considering the millions of dollars we are spending on her staff, you would think they could give her some much needed advice. (They obviously don't know any better)

Everytime I hesitate about posting another picture of her, it becomes clear that her lack of decorum as First Lady needs to be documented and scorned. (That and I delight in it. ;) She is such a thankless, angry, anti-American thug.

JM Hanes

Jim Treacher:

I see you were already there before me. Gotta love the AP's characterization of an "impassioned" Obama. As if.

Mike K

This story illustrates Obama's ignorance of medicine, health care and end of life care. A hip replacement costs less than a month in a nursing home and will keep a patient independent and ambulatory when the alternative is expensive nursing home care or euthanasia. I don't remember if the hip replacement was for a hip fracture but I'll bet it was. He just doesn't know anything about medical decision making.

the bishop

Well ,Doc as he keeps reminding us. "I Won". and that entitles him to go all 'Bob
Vila' on the US economy.


If Barack Obama had actually spent any amount of time dealing with his grandmother's final year, he might have participated in one of those “death panels” where the hospital administrators, the doctors and the social workers gang up on the family members to tell you that your "loved one" in on the road to death and now must be stripped of all human dignity by being relegated to a nursing home for the remainder of their life.

JM Hanes

General surgeon:

Thanks for the input -- I wouldn't be surprised if Obama never even talked directly with his grandmother's doctor(s).

Frau  The Schnauzer

PUK to Jane,
May I suggest that you carry bells and every time you encounter a politician ring it and chant "Bring out your dead".
But with ObamaCare there will be too many of us giving the next line, "But I'm not dead."

Instead of gratitude for grandparents who gave him love,shelter and opportunity, Obama writes they used *him* to brag about *themselves.* Later, his sister attended Punahou Academy, also. Say what we may, the Dunhams all knew how to milk any system. His grandmother, however, held real jobs throughout most of her life.

the bishop

Well it seems negligence isn't so much a personal thing as standard operating procedure, in the LUN

Jim Treacher
Gotta love the AP's characterization of an "impassioned" Obama. As if.

If he's impassioned, it's only because his will is being thwarted. It's the passion of the spoiled child who didn't eat his dinner but demands dessert.


--I just want to know why it's so risible and dishonest and horrendous that Palin works the "widely discredited" death panel point, but Obama has been pimping a dishonest, lying, idiotic "HC Reform will save us money" that has been demolished by the CBO, but he's given a free pass.--

Well, he's given a free pass by the MSM because every pimp needs a stable of whores, right?

However if one contemplates his sinking polls it appears he is not being given a free pass by those of us for whom a condom is not a work related expense.


Obama has had his try .. now mine ...

I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn't understand why President Obama would undermine the efforts of small business owners. "Even my Grandpa?" she asked pitifully.

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why President Obama has rushed legislation, without allowing Congressmen to even reading it, that will hurt the backbone of the American economy, the small businessman. "And yes honey, even Grandpa is going bankrupt under the the burden of taxes and new mandates", I was forced to say.

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "Honey, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore..."

When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, "Daddy" she said, "why are President Obama and the Democrats doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes.

For once she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it's too much, but seeing the strength in my young daughter's voice helped me to get through.


"she doesn't know enough to bring an experienced advisor on board"

Doesn't she already have something like 20 (or some such number) of Advisors/helpers already?
In this case, I doubt if more is better.

I think there is a rumor of a Mother at the White House too. Surely any Mother would know that was not the right outfit.

LUN on her staff.


Last from me tonight.

Melinda Romanoff


Bob Vila makes no excuses for his Castro hatred for what was done to his family in Cuba, Ty Pennington might be a better alliteration. Just thought you might want to know that tidbit, no matter how gawd-awfully annoying Vila's become, over time, on his shows.

Looks like I'll be back in play in the next week, or so, then I'll get to those notes I promised.

(Clifford Brown/Zoot Sims- "Tiny Capers")

Melinda Romanoff


Just another example of someone who "thinks OF themselves" as opposed to those who "think FOR themselves".

(And I am listening to the whole album, by the way...)

JM Hanes


Don't Look now: Is Hillary taking advice from Michelle or is it just contagious?

Captain Hate

Considering the millions of dollars we are spending on her staff, you would think they could give her some much needed advice. (They obviously don't know any better)

Oh please; they value job security (could they be making nearly as much money for performing an essentially useless function) and does that slob ever give the impression she cares what anybody else thinks?

Ann The Mannequin

JMH, ♥s

Missed your comment until I came back to catch up.

There's a very simple way to get out of a car without looking like a galut. It's even easier when you've got long legs

Isn't that the truth!

Of course, when your ugly clothes are plastered against your skin, you're having a bad hair day, and you're wearing surf shoes...I don't know if we could even carry that off. But something tells me that with a pair of Channel sun glasses you could! Hah


I can't get any link to work for the individual thread, but if you go to the

and scroll down till you come to this paragraph, you soon understand why you don't want any thing to do with a medical system ran by a government.

The Rationing Of Health Care Debate: Hospital Bed Auction: about 15 years ago in this unassuming Eastern corner of the barbarian encampment (i.e., in the UK), government funding provided for a shiny, brand spanking new hospital, much to the delight of the local people at the time. Little did we know that that hospital’s provision of health services to a community of less than 35,000 ordinary souls would become, double quick, such a financial hot potato and the source of deep-seated, sometimes heart rending discontent amongst the citizenry – who have witnessed, in the space of the last several years of resource centralisation, the withdrawal of emergency services, maternity services, all but the most routine of surgical services and the loss of services for cardiac care.

I was speaking in metaphorical terms, this is certainly the way he (Obama regards this country)and he thinks he got the contract to do a rebuild. I trust you understand my point.

Melinda Romanoff


You have NO idea, the ineptitude of Desiree Rogers, as an advisor. Having known her ex-husband, his desire for political significance and willingness to put his wife out there for such purposes, and her being about the densest human I have ever encountered. The "circle of counsel" provided for Michelle is for Michelle, not for the "office". They couldn't care one whit what image they are providing unless it feels good to them, at the moment, for themselves.

Ooooh, sorry, that went a bit long.

And just to clarify, I don't have 6 radio controlled planes, I have 6 "free-flight" planes, a different game altogether, especially next to a 385 mile long lake.


JM Hanes


I got a lot of practice in the (very!) early days of mini-skirts. You didn't just lean over to pick something up off the floor either. You had to be in pretty good shape to do the necessary knee bend -- in spike heels.

the bishop

I got this tidbit, I don't know exactly wher from, it's not in Memeorandum, so I can't LUN it, by Ambinder:

Aug 16 2009, 9:11 pm by Marc Ambinder
Administration Official: "Sebelius Misspoke."

An administration official said tonight that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius "misspoke" when she told CNN this morning that a government run health insurance option "is not an essential part" of reform. This official asked not to be identified in exchange for providing clarity about the intentions of the President. The official said that the White House did not intend to change its messaging and that Sebelius simply meant to echo the president, who has acknowledged that the public option is a tough sell in the Senate and is, at the same time, a must-pass for House Democrats, and is not, in the president's view, the most important element of the reform package.

A second official, Linda Douglass, director of health reform communications for the administration, said that President Obama believed that a public option was the best way to reduce costs and promote competition among insurance companies, that he had not backed away from that belief, and that he still wanted to see a public option in the final bill.

"Nothing has changed.," she said. "The President has always said that what is essential that health insurance reform lower costs, ensure that there are affordable options for all Americans and increase choice and competition in the health insurance market. He believes that the public option is the best way to achieve these goals."

A third White House official, via e-mail, said that Sebelius didn't misspeak. "The media misplayed it," the third official said.

Appearing on Face the Nation, press secretary Robert Gibbs said that fostering competition and choice were non-negotiable, but the specific mechanism designed to do so was up for discussion. That's been interpreted as a signal that the White House is getting behind the idea of adding publicly owned health cooperatives to the menu of choices that consumers without insurance will recieve. Still, this isn't exactly a walk-back -- the White House, Gibbs included, have mused favorably about the co-ops before.

On Saturday, Mr. Obama defended the public plan before an audience in Colorado Springs. At the same time, he said that the government option was not the single critical element of reform, pointing instead to the provisions preventing insurance companies from discriminating against people, requiring them to offer plans to everyone, and capping premium increases.

"The public option, whether we have it or we don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform. This is just one sliver of it. One aspect of it," Obama said.

This has been a refrain the White House has used for weeks, but not until Saturday did Mr. Obama voice it so explicitly.
The perception that the White House had backed away from the public plan has roiled many prominent Democrats, who took to their blogs, and to Twitter, to protest.

Captain Hate

Thanks for the clarifications on both things, Melinda. So you have to chase those planes down? How far do they go? I used to fly the ones that were attached by lines that I'd fly in a circle; I was pretty good at not getting dizzy and landing 'em ok but my Dad would usually crack them up (I would be the good son and not rag on him too much).

I still stand by my claim that Worf wouldn't value the opinions of any advisers regarding how she looks.

Melinda Romanoff

Thanks for the clarification, bishop.

I take it to mean that if the Senate doesn't include "it", it really doesn't matter because they'll pick it up in conference from the House bill, where it is a "must".

Nothing new, keep looking for the red queen....

Melinda Romanoff


"How far do they go?" -to quote my father, who would shake his head and say, "yesssss". (which meant, in his obscure manner, he had no idea. Very funny when done in person, not so much on line)

Bottom line, depending on weather, the wind, specific humidity of the plane, quality of fuel, amount of same, tuning of the engine, presence of thermal updrafts, and quality of lift from construction, could easily lose you the plane on any given day. As far as R/C stuff, I seem to only build planes that, when the motor quits, glide like a brick. I'm still trying to balance the battery/engine stuff vs. flight capabilities, the latter being more important to me.

Reconstruction after my level of impact leaves me with a motor, and not much else. Hence, 6 surviving free flight models, and no "splashes". I drive some 80 miles away and try to time my fuel for a 50-60 mile flight, provided it's not too hot out.

No flights this summer, I'm six days into the "big move".

Time for the rack.

G'night all.

the bishop

Here's the LUN for Ambinder. I recall he had something to say about how the town hall protests were going to cause abacklash in 3,2,1. . .They really have to learn not to play this game, they'll lose everyone in the bargain.


But weren't other dems indicating that the "public option" is dead in addition to Sebelius. Interesting strategy or incompetence?

Run up the white flag then pull it down in less than day. That's just going to make everyone mad.


Hey Melinda, are you done moving? At least as much as one ever is?

Ann The Mannequin

and does that slob ever give the impression she cares what anybody else thinks?

No, and I guess that is our point, Captain. What President or First Lady have so cavalierly dissed the country they were so honored to be elected to defend?

On a positive note this evening, JMH should bring forth pictures of her in mini skirts and spike heels. Do I have a quorum? :)

Annnnnnnnnnd, I hate the thought of being known, as only posting, disgusting, petty pictures of Michelle...
so on this day, I promise to give you a positive picture too: Photobucket

God Bless the USA!


On a positive note this evening, JMH should bring forth pictures of her in mini skirts and spike heels. Do I have a quorum? :)

Works for me, Ann!

Charlie (Colorado)

General Surgeon -- Please God tell me you're not an orthopod, and are older than me, so you don't actually know that pinning isn't indicated for elderly patients, especially in femoral head fractures. intertrochanteric fractures, yeah, if the patient is otherwise healthy and vital, but even then the morbidity is high in geriatric patients.

Dumber than dirt, I guess

I'm a lurker here, enjoy the comments. But I don't know what LUN means. Would someone enlighten me? Thanks.


"Link Under Name." Click on the person's name and you will be taken to the referenced article. It is an acronym local to this blog.

The best guess has been Laughing Until Numb.

Stephanie "the Ice Pick"

Everyone seen this LUN at Drudge's? Must read...

The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says this country's health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.

Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country - who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting - recognize that changes must be made.

"We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press.

Do you think Obama ever gets the feeling that, like Gore, the fickle finger of fate has it in for him?



An administration official said tonight that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius "misspoke" when she told CNN this morning that a government run health insurance option "is not an essential part" of reform.

Now exactly how do you have a debate when the "authors" of the bill can't even get the program straight among themselves ?

Somewhat less Dumb than dirt!

Thank you, thank you, Dr. J!

I try to figure things out before asking questions, and googled it. The best I could come up with was:

LUN Logical Unit Number (SCSI devices)

That just didn't make any sense. Now, I'm less dumb than dirt!


Your question comes up more frequently than you might imagine.

I'm always amused when people ascribe it to Logical Unit Numbers, since I still use a lot of SCSI drives. One computer has four of them, so assigning the right LUNs becomes important.

Just not in this context!

the bishop

If one assumes that they are always lying in major forum, but their actual sentiments in that 2001 speech, or the SF Chronicle editorial meeting, or the San Francisco millionaires meet, told to Mayhill Fowler, everything makes sense.


Chris Dodd...resign NOW.

Hey Chris...what happened at OTS?

Corruption has got to stop and Chris...you gotta go.


Ah DrJ--

The day we bundled up (almost) the last of our SCSI cables was a joyful day in this household. Remember well the phrase SCSI Hell!
Bless your heart for still using those drives:-)

I still use an old labtop as a printer driver with a modified SCSI cable to USB cord attached to a very old Epson 3000 printer that I modified to run heavy paper on a straight through path. I had this notion some years ago to print on thin aluminum for some reason:)

JM Hanes

Plugging in a firewire cable will never seem like nearly the accomplishment that hooking up SCSI connectors did. Never quite had the heart to divest myself of all those devices, which have been gathering dust for years in this corner or that - along with all the computers that go with 'em. I tell myself that someday my grandchildren (still prospective, alas!) will be able to auction all that stuff off as a collection at Sotheby's....


I hear you JMH--

Although I invested in those plastic bins one can buy at WalMart and store computer components--so those bins are gathering dust in storage:)

I do have an old Apple IIgs with "the Woz's" signature on it.
Someday it might fit in that Sotheby auction:-)


Up early....the Don Suber link by Jane @ 8:40 is great. Sarah Palin is the only one out there that is sayin what I'm thinkin.

and The bishop link @ 9:36 is great too. This whole Obama crew has been/is a miserable failure. They are "users" of the poor, not "uplifters".

and last...my pet peeve...the STASI site - flag@whitehouse.gov is still up. Still time to rat out your family, friends, neighbors, and acquaintances.


You know, just like the Federal Income Tax System.
Of course, if you don't comply it's either prison or an Obama cabinet position.


Good article by Breitbart LUN about Alinsky and BDS. I miss W.

Brown Line

"I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here." - Barack Obama

The statistic is often cited that of the total amount of healthcare a person consumes in his lifetime, 80% is consumed in the last year of life. I'd like to see the sources for that, because it seems dubious to me; but for the sake of argument, let's assume it's true.

President Obama projects from that number the notion that 80% of the total cost of healthcare is spent caring for the dying. Which is not true: for the simple reason that people in their last year of life are only a tiny proportion of the total population. While the dying consume a disproportionate mount of healthcare - not surprising, given that they are desperately ill - it is nowhere near 80%.

President Obama, in other words, just flunked statistics 101. And this is the guy who's going to re-engineer the US economy? Man, we are in deep, deep trouble.


"On a positive note this evening, JMH should bring forth pictures of her in mini skirts and spike heels. Do I have a quorum? :)"

Yes for the JOM Babes Christmas Calendar .


"Out damned spot.


It's Times-world - Obama can say whatever he wants and later say whatever else he wants, then denounce the people still grappling with the previous version.

That applies to pretty much everything Obama utters.


Ah, guys, speaking of SCSI -- great interface, but the last two disks I bought were 1TB drives that cost less than any SCSI cable that I own.

(My first SCSI devices were a 500MB disk drive -- $1200, and DAT tape drive -- $1800, in a nifty double enclosure. The enclosure, cables and terminator cost me more than my daughter spent on her netbook...)


I've personally never had any issues with "SCSI Hell" and have found the interface to be quite straight forward. The drives I have mostly are of the 15K RPM variety and their speed is outstanding. So is their reliability, as they were made for enterprise applications.

Yes, they were expensive, but I bought many of mine as refurbished, and others when SAS was introduced and distributors were liquidating their SCSI inventories. I'd guess my average drive cost about $80.

They don't have the capacity of modern SATA drives, but I don't need it for my work. Unless one gets heavily into audio or video most computer activities just don't need that much space. My main box has a 147GB 15K SCSI, and it has all of my work for the last six years and two virtual machines. It is still over half empty.

Still, the interface is dead, having been displaced by SAS (serial-attached SCSI).


Cathyf -

When I think of all the money spent years ago on cables.......ah well...

DrJ -

It's amazing how fast that old laptop--that's driving the old Epson printer--loads running ancient Mac OS 9.2 that doesn't have all those bells and whistles:)


Saying there needs to be a conversation on an important matter means you are conceding responsibility for decisions to others as long as their conclusions fit your preconceived notions.



There sure is a lot of bulk that has been added to computer software over the years. While some of this is good -- compare the TCP/IP stack for Windows 95/98 with W2K, XP or later -- much of it really is not that useful.

I still set all of my important and complex documents with software that originates from the late 1970s. It still turns out better type than any of the WYSIWYG word processors.



Gotta agree with Jane, this is too good to not repeat: 'Well he got a good lesson from that mentally-ill fat POS Al Gore's mawkish convention family tear-jerkers..........'



I never did use Windows machines--the first computer I used was an Apple IIe where you loaded the OS every time booted. Did try Applesoft which I believe Bill Gates wrote back in the day.

Later I struggled with postscript but I think that was from the eighties as my hazy memory recalls.
I was trying to print my own artwork--thank goodness for that loose term-- but have turned the task over to a friend who is a master printer and has the patience for that sort of thing.

Thomas Jackson


Terrence Berres

"The facts demonstrate that Barack Obama has always favored 'death panels.' He just prefers that they be called something else."

Life Closing Commissions.


OK, this thread is dead, I guess, but I had to respond to this

"Funny he never cites and names the experts, scientists and ethicists who are guiding him."

Zeke Emanuel, Rahm's brother, in the Lancet, January 2009 describing their shiny new ethical infrastructure for death panels



He just prefers that they be called something else.

Mortician Stimulus.

Accelerated Sequestering of Grandma's Carbon.

Circle of Life Panels.

Fair Unionized Care by Knowledgeworkers for Youth, Old, and Uninsured.

Spreading the Death.

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