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August 11, 2009

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bad

ha ha ha ha ha

Jim Ryan

Is there a link to where Ambinder has demolished all of the arguments against government health insurance? Surely he knows that he's entitled to psychologize only after demolishing his opponents' arguments.

Paul Zrimsek

Armbinder's timing theory predicts that support for reform should be increasing over time. Well?

bgates

It's a media cop-out when a journalist refuses to use their expertise to inform a debate even when it might influence the debate to go in a certain direction.

It's a shame we have to go through the cut-out of having the media select candidates for office, rather than just being governed by journalists and their expertise directly.

bad

What expertise?

clarice

some journalist who can't even manage his own tongue:
"

It's a media cop-out when a journalist refuses to use their HIS expertise "

TOPSECRETK9

Democrats are asking voters, in essence, to simmer down. Use reason; be conscious about the process of thinking through health care.

I can't believe Ambinder wrote this. Does he really think we don't KNOW that Democrats have publicly bragged about not even reading the damn bill?

Porchlight

bgates, it is indeed a shame, but thankfully by hiring so many journalists the Obama WH has cut out the middleman about as much as can be hoped from any administration.

Uncle Pinky

Just want to see, just once, Obama actually build something by himself. A physical construct. I get a feeling that his Dove moisturized hands have never held a hammer.

"Hey Mr. Carpenter, Plumber or what have you; DO IT NOW! Not right, not correctly, just do the damnable thing! Someone will pay for it at some time, and they will pay for the inevitable repairs necessitated by my shortsightedness soon enough! JUST DO IT! Did I happen to mention that I have a degree, therefore I know more about this than you?"

It is the heart-cry of the spoiled single child who was never in the Cub Scouts, and never has had to be responsible for his actions.

I truly believe that much of his behavior can be traced to the poor socialization of the spoiled single child and the poor self-esteem of the individual who has exceeded the level of his incompetence.

In a nation that is leaning towards over-priveleged, non-achieving, useless critters who call an electrician when they want to change the outlet faceplates to match the new paint; kind of a poster child.

And the more that he realizes how inadequate he is, the more arrogant he becomes.

Take a shop class Barry.

Measure twice.

Cut once.

Extraneus

Well, if it's any consolation, even AP pans the staged event today.

To friendly crowd, Obama assails health care foes

RichatUF

For night owls the Perseid Meteror Shower is tonight.

Democrats are asking voters, in essence, to simmer down.

Right. I must have been imagining Obama giving the SEIU its go orders through Organizing for America and Obama's cabinet giving them "attaboys" for showing this last few days.

Cecil Turner
Democrats are asking voters, in essence, to simmer down. Use reason; be conscious about the process of thinking through health care.
Yeah, right. Unfortunately for the Dems, 57% now oppose single-payer health care (including 63% of independents, which kinda blows the ol' "partisan shell" argument). And their stated reasons are not "emotional":
Fifty-two percent (52%) believe such a system would lead to a lower quality of care while 13% believe care would improve.

Forty-five percent (45%) also say a single-payer system would lead to higher health care costs while 24% think lower costs would result.

I also think that last question was poorly worded, and could easily be read as "direct costs" (ignoring the public subsidy). Either that, or 24% of the public is on drugs . . . but I digress.

On the public expenditure side, several congresscritters are on record saying they won't vote for anything that raises the deficit (including Specter in his recent debacle). Since the CBO report scores it as a trillion dollar program thru 2019 with about a quarter of it unmet, it's hard to see how that gets squared as well. Looks to me like the only Dem option was exactly what they tried to do . . . ram it through before anybody had a chance to read it. Now that they failed on that score, guess it's time to lie about it. Ambinder's got a good start going on that score, the first step being to accuse the opponents of fearmongering (and better than half the electorate of being stupid and emotional). We'll see how it works out.

bad

There appears to be a link between the 9 yearold from Ibama's townhall today, her mother, and Ibama.

LUN

Porchlight

That is actually some consolation, Extraneus.

Nice catch bad! Obama maintains his green thumb at these townhalls, I see.

narciso

The point of this whole thing was to keep everything boiling, so it would pass before anyone noticed. He just doesn't like what's being cooked up in the process. To cross metaphors, a few people have put a spike in the middle of the track, so they have to switch relays for the time being,

bad

No credit to me Porch, I stole it from a commenter at Tapper.

RichatUF

So a Dem activist used her child to ask a softball question of Obama, which he used to attack any and all criticism of his healthcare plans. Stay classy Dems. What are they going to do next say we are being mean to the little girl (shouldn't sshe have been in school?) because we "spotted the plant"?

bad

Didn't TM have a post earlier today where Obama was saying something about exploiting children.....

clarice

Guess he couldn't use Lynn Sweet again.

RichatUF

Oh, good one bad.

bad

Good one, Clarice.

Thanks Rich.

bad

This is from babs45 at Tapper's blog:About the tame audience in New Hampshire:

"I've staged presidential events. No one, but no one is admitted without a Secret Service background check days before the actual event. They collect social security numbers, etc. and know exactly who is in the room. And, if that doesn't keep the crowd tame, there are agents with tommy guns sitting behind the drape background. The town hall was a contrived event that came down to just another photo op of The One."

Does anyone know if babs is speaking with knowledge here? It makes sense to me...

matt

when does it become pathological lying? LUN

narciso

Camille Paglia, came through at least from the beginning of this latest piece from Salon, in the LUN. Could be that she dissapoints later

RichatUF

bad-

Seems plausable. However, Emanuel and Axelrod are such control freaks regarding Obama's image they wouldn't send him into a hostile venue, regardless of how much the Secret Service wanted to have command-and-control of the event. Seems more of a deflection of the "it was staged" criticism of Obama's "town hall" appearences. The Sercert Service are pros, and if Obama wanted to show up to Congressman's town halls and field, unscripted, angry questions, he could do it and his security detail would make it happen.

Barry Dauphin

Democrats want folks to simmer down, slow down the process? Someone actually pays Ambinder to write or is he on welfare?

Sue

bad,

I think that only applied to the Obama girls. Other children are okay to exploit.

bad

Thanks Rich.

Sue

I know I posted this earlier, but I want to remind everyone that Obama winked at a woman about to ask him a question. The MSM has been oddly silent about it.

bad

Other children are okay to exploit.

Of Course!! I've got to get better at nuance...

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Does anyone know if babs is speaking with knowledge here?

I don't know about the behind the curtain stuff, but she's telling the truth about the rest.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I've done a few events where I had to work with the advance team, usually many days in advance of the event and we had to provide a list of names of everyone we expected to be there for a SS check. This was for off site events (away from the WH). I also worked on a Rose Garden event where the PM of Australia was the guest of honor. Sheesh! I and the rest of the volunteers were screened like we were going to be given access to the "football" and have our finger on the button. That event was invitation only and the lists had to be submitted way in advance, although I don't recall just how long.

I didn't like these events. The SS are creepy. Even when you know you aren't doing anything wrong, it feels like you are.

Roux

Ah that pesky law of unintended consequences.

Tom Bowler

Is there a link to where Ambinder has demolished all of the arguments against government health insurance? Surely he knows that he's entitled to psychologize only after demolishing his opponents' arguments.

Who needs a link? The case for Obamacare is open and shut. Republicans oppose it. George W. Bush and the Republicans are evil. Besides, it's for the children. It goes without saying.

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