Having bagged ACORN, Andrew Breitbart is apparently poised to move on to a new target. Patterico takes the sensible tack of reading what Breitbart wrote just before breaking the ACORN tapes, when he mentioned ACORN and the National Endowment of the Arts as two uncovered scandals. [UPDATE: The NEA it is! See below']
Since Breitbart also broke the NEA "Artists for Obama On the NEA Dime" issue at his Big Hollywood site, it seems like a safe bet that the NEA is next.
And what to look for? If the next story follows the template of the ACORN sting, we will be treated to tapes of undercover reporters posing as artists and proposing over the top Obama-boosting "art" to enthusiastically nodding NEA grant directors. That said, the timing is tricky - per the initial Big Hollywood expose, the troubling NEA call inviting artists to get behind Obama's message machine was on August 10; could we really have tape of mortifying grant interviews a mere five weeks later? Time will tell!
As to Breitbart's strategy, Patterico says this:
If I were a betting man, I’d be betting big that the upcoming bombshell will relate to the NEA. You read it here first.
But I think Breitbart’s overarching target is even bigger than that: the national media as a whole. Just as the media was caught flatfooted by the ACORN scandal, so too will they be rocked back on their heels by the next bombshell.
Brietbart would be very shrewd to target the MSM rather than Obama. Presidents come and go but an alternative media empire could last, well, a long time. TheACORN story demonstrated both the need for alternatives and Breitbart's ability to be that alternative.
Beyond that the MSM is a softer target. Attacking Obama directly flies in the face of his (sagging) personal popularity. But even reliable libs like Jon Stewart were comfortable framing the ACORN expose as an attack on Big Media.
Now Breitbart has raised the bar and thrown down the gauntlet (or vice versa?). We await an interesting week.
UPDATE: From Big Government:
So what did happen on that call? Was the NEA coordinating with the White House to push their agenda on a group of artists eager for and reliant upon the NEA for grants, or is the NEA telling the truth that this call “was not a means to promote any legislative agenda”?
Tomorrow at noon ET, explosive new information will answer that question and raise many others.
I would say my guess about mortifying pro-Obama grant proposals caught on tape is very much alive.
Epic doubleplus fail, this reminds me of the story, meant to contrast the Latin and Anglo temperament. two men are selected are selected to astronauts, the Anglo wife is
very calm and collected, the Latin one is overwrought, one was informed, the other was suspicious when she was told to take two
tubes of toothpaste and fill them with rice
beans and ground beef, a sign he was going to out of time for a while. That vignette was triggered by that anecdote
Posted by: bishop | September 20, 2009 at 11:20 PM
clarice:
That reminds me of a warden who was asked to explain how three men could walk into his maximum security prison and four walk out, without raising any questions. He attributed it to a "procedural malfunction."
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 20, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I have no idea who Victoria Rowell is, but here's her get up at the Emmys...
I wonder if his face is on her ass, too?
Posted by: hit and run | September 20, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Do ya'll think the whole NEA thing could be a deliberate red herring?
Seems to me that there's an "everybody knows" quality to that story already. Unless Breitbart really beefs it up and nails it to the White House door, I'm not sure I see it capsizing a lot of boats. I don't know where everybody is seeing all the pointers though, so maybe I'm missing something here.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM
JMH, I learned just a few years ago while at a memorial service for my dad that my grandmother had smuggled my grandfather out of a Polish jail where he'd been held for avoiding the draft..She smuggled in some womens clothing for him, somehow distracted the guards while he put them on and then shw walked out of there arm in arm with him, cool as a cucumber, put him on a hay wagon which she'd hired and sent him out of the country to the US.
She was fantastic!
Posted by: clarice | September 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM
LOL Hit. Still a few more hours to enjoy your natal day, CC. Hope you have many more.
Ann's fashion show gives us a fair idea of the wonder of Michelle in all her resplendent glory. I think the belt looks more like a cross between a cartridge belt and a explosive vest.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | September 20, 2009 at 11:36 PM
JMH, I don't think it's a red herring but I think the story has to be about more--like, for example, trying to cover up the NEA grants or the SEIU role in this.
Posted by: clarice | September 20, 2009 at 11:36 PM
hit:
That piece of fabric deserves its own spot at the Textile Museum next to Obama mere's duds.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 20, 2009 at 11:37 PM
bishop--Are you sure you didn't leave something out of that story--I can't figure out the joke.
Posted by: clarice | September 20, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Just one vet's opinion, of course.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | September 20, 2009 at 11:37 PM
I wonder if his face is on her ass, too?
Hit, you just gave a new meaning and visual for "junk in the trunk"! lol
Posted by: Ann | September 20, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Re Michelle's dress:
What the *fuck* was she thinking?
I mean, I'm not a noted snappy dresser, but even I know better than to wear a bright red and white print sleeveless dress to what is, in effect, a funeral service.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | September 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM
The humor is situational, kind of like the culture clash with "I love Lucy". It's also
about the lack of careful observation. Remind me not to go into standup
Posted by: bishop | September 20, 2009 at 11:41 PM
It's true Chaco. I've never seen you in a bright red and white sleeveless dress except at cocktail parties.
Posted by: clarice | September 20, 2009 at 11:49 PM
who has SEIU partnered with? I keep seeing the Shepard Fairey pictures subtly associated on big dot com pages. Did Shepard get a grant?
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | September 20, 2009 at 11:50 PM
clarice:
What a fantastic story! It must have been fascinating to discover that your own grandmother was a real heroine.
Long before the iron curtain fell, my great aunt went on one of the very few tours allowed into East Germany. It may actually have been East Berlin, but in any case they had to negotiate a regular obstacle course of barriers and checkpoints getting in and out. They were just about to pass through the last gate back to the western side, when their official minder/guide came running after them, waving a sheaf of forms that the passengers had filled out, and demanding that the driver stop the bus, which he did. The guide climbed aboard and said, "Drive! Now! Please!" and rode into the free world. Didn't do much for the tourist industry though.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 20, 2009 at 11:53 PM
And all those pictures have an agitprop theme to them.
Posted by: Rocco | September 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM
I think you could say that all the unsavory connections with the administration to the shadowy underbelly of Dim politics provides a rather target rich environment.
Posted by: Pofarmer | September 20, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Let me try that again
Posted by: Rocco | September 20, 2009 at 11:57 PM
JM--Love your aunt's story!
My grandmother was a remarkable woman--kept so many people alive with her industry and generous kindness both in Poland and then here during the depression. (Well, in Israel, too--She knew Golda Meir who was also in Milwaukee and she used to give her bundles of things for the poor settlers there.)
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM
I really wish someone would dig into Obama's campaign contributions, although I'm sure an awful lot of trails have been destroyed.
Posted by: Pofarmer | September 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM
LUN
White House Briefing
Eisenhower Executive Office Building
Tuesday, 12 May 2009
More than sixty artists and creative organizers convened in a third-floor conference room at the
Eisenhower Executive Office Building for a briefing introduced and moderated by Kareem Dale,
Special Assistant to the President, who serves as White House Liaison to the arts. The briefing was
structured as a series of opportunities to listen and learn about administration policies, programs
and priorities, headlined “Grassroots Arts Groups and Organizations.” Some speakers took a few
questions, some had time only to speak and run
The Washington DC meeting had three parts: 1) a meeting at the Kaiser Family Foundation to
prepare for the briefing, 2) the two-hour White House briefing at the Eisenhower Executive Office
Building, and 3) a post-briefing meeting at Bus Boys & Poets to interpret and respond to what we
had learned and to engage in small-group strategy sessions including: cultural policy, green jobs,
immigration, public/private space, healthcare reform, organizing power on behalf of community
artists, and a department of alternative thinking
Buffy Wicks, Deputy Director, Office of Public Liaison
Buffy Wicks began by noting that service is a huge priority for the Obamas, embedded in both
their life stories. She explained that the White House was preparing for President Obama to
launch a call for participation in a “Summer of Service,” offering average Americans opportunities
to participate as volunteers in economic recovery. She asked briefing participants to think
through how their networks and organizations can participate in areas such as the arts in
education, healthcare and preventative care, energy and environment, or economic opportunity.
Do you use volunteers, she asked, and are there ways you a can expand service for volunteers?
She explained that the administration will be launching a National Day of Service on September
11. People will be able to learn more at www.serve.gov. She explained that the President and the
First Lady will be engaging all of the resources of the White House to think through how the arts
can be a space where Americans can engage in service, and noted that Kareem Dale will have
more information as the project is built across the country this summer.
Buffy Wicks did not take questions
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | September 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM
TS:
Any bets on the number of religious, center to center right organizations are featured on the WH Service website? From what I saw, the "help wanted" part of the site was heavily weighted with ACORN and similar orgs.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | September 21, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Rocco:
Ironic, isn't it? The commentariat is shocked, just shocked, that anyone could possibly connect Obama to any of the various isms associated with historic agitprop. It's not as if the Prez takes his iconography very seriously or has made a career out of controlling his image. Oh wait.
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM
"I saw something nasty in the woodshed." --Cold Comfort Farm
Posted by: Uncle BigBad | September 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM
I wonder if anyone gets points for volunteering for the Boy Scouts?
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | September 21, 2009 at 12:11 AM
TSK9 & Rocco, together again in the same thread! Good times!
Tops, I still remember you walking us through the incredible spider's web of ACORN organizations, shells, and people -- it must have been almost two years ago now, no?
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 21, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Healthcare Reform
Contact: Michelle Miller
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Michelle.Miller@seiu.org
Summary: This group discussed the multiple roles that artists can play in support of health care reform.
Artists can:
• Join with policy makers to help create a narrative about the current health care system. There is an
ongoing need for stories from inside the health care system, both stories of patients and providers.
Artists can facilitate the development of these compelling stories by partnering with health care workers
in hospitals/community health centers and helping people tell their stories on an ongoing basis. These
stories serve to highlight the need for health care reform but can also be used to demonstrate the
existence of communities who rely on public hospitals/community health centers that are often under
threat of closure. For example, Los Angeles Poverty Department’s work on Skid Row in Los Angeles.
• Create a counter narrative to the Luntz memo/Republican talking points designed to destroy health care
reform. They can offer creative, humorous voices that can think outside of white papers or New York
Times op-eds to communicate effectively about the importance of health care reform and diminish the
increasing attacks on our movement for reform. For example, the satirical webisodes SEIU is producing
with comedy writers with content from Lutz memo.
• Work with health care workers in skills sharing sessions. Artists provide ideas, strategy etc. for using the
arts in medicine. Health care workers to provide care in return. Eg: Artist Access program at Woodhull
Hospital in Brooklyn, NY.
Page 14
White House briefing on Art, Community, Social Justice, National Recovery—12 May 2009 Page 14
• Participate in the Sarah Jones Health Equality tour: invite artists from other parts of the country where
health equality work is growing to performances on the Sarah Jones tour (Nashville July 7 / Minneapolis,
July 11) to develop storytelling, arts and culture projects around building awareness and action
connected to health care equa
--- Kindas weird the WH has SEIU running the healthcare reform art propoganda, but I wonder if "the satirical webisodes SEIU is producing with comedy writers" got tax dollars?
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | September 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM
I was wondering the very same thing,ts.SEIU "webisdoes, indeed.
Of course all the "healthworkers" on this project are also SEIU..Did the union pay them, or did NEA, too?
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Clarice and JMH,
What great stories. I am not surprised both of you come from such great stock.
Hey, What do you think of calling Andrew Breitbart "Braveheart". One of my favorite movies and one of my favorite clips: Braveheart
In defiance of tyranny, F.R.E.E.D.O.M.!!!
We could make it viral.
(Let's do it for our grandmothers and aunts!)
Posted by: Ann | September 21, 2009 at 12:28 AM
ts--wish we were in the same time zone--I love ya but have to hit the sack..
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Tops:
You really should be working for Breitbart -- and getting paid handsomely for this stuff! You could just start emailing him copies of your posts.....
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 21, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Braveheart -- I like it!
Posted by: JM Hanes | September 21, 2009 at 12:30 AM
clarice-
Getting to the thread late and Breitbart seems to have an appetizer, but I'd guess that he nailed someone from SEIU (or ACORN) demanding a kickback on an NEA grant (or maybe he ran a "sting" with someone and actually got a grant and made a demanded payoff to an SEIU official?). Doesn't seem to fit into the "out of left field" or stinging the MSM though. Not sure and it is too early for me to come up with anything better.
Happy Birthday centralcal.
Posted by: RichatUF | September 21, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Clarice:
My spidey labor lawyer sense tells me that SEIU will have at least 1.0 more members two years from the enactment of a bill like HR3200.
Quid and Quo, no?
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | September 21, 2009 at 12:36 AM
That should be 1.0 million. Sorry.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | September 21, 2009 at 12:38 AM
OK, Here we go:
There are more details in the post at Big Hollywood, but apparently, that's just the trailer: Emphasis is original.Posted by: JM Hanes | September 21, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Thanks guys but I just have goog google fu and that's about it.
The doc I linked to was in May and it clearly states it wants art groups to mirror Obama agenda and it was very clear also this was coordinated with the WH.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | September 21, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Good, not goog
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | September 21, 2009 at 12:51 AM
This too:
White House briefing on Art, Community, Social Justice, National Recovery—12 May 2009 Page 4
Mike Strautmanis directed our attention to key people with whom to foster nrelationships: Kareem Dale, who was appointed to deal with the arts specifically; and Valerie Jarrett, a close confidante and advisor to the First Family, who connects directly to the Oval Office.
He also introduced Yosi Sergant, who was instrumental in arranging the briefing. Yosi had just left the Office of Public Engagement to serve as Communications Director at the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), noting that he represents the commitment to bring in people not
traditionally part of the political process to share their talents and skills. He recognized that Yosi’s efforts had made the campaign soar with arts work beyond what could have happened with traditional political consultants. With Yosi and Anita Decker (Director of Government Affairs at the NEA) in place, he explained, people very close to the President are involved in the effort
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | September 21, 2009 at 12:58 AM
JM Hanes-
Wow they got the arts grants out faster than the cash part of the "Cash for Clunkers" program!
Good work if you can get it I suppose.
Posted by: RichatUF | September 21, 2009 at 01:06 AM
JMH...It is nice to see ts out here again. She's always been my compass leading me in the right direction.
The taxpayer-funded website is evolving into a cyber-recruitment tool for the progressive movement.
And so is the NEA. Take a look at Fairey's
graffitiartwork and notice the marxist theme to most of them.Happy Birthday cc and night all
Posted by: Rocco | September 21, 2009 at 01:08 AM
Ah, it looks like they might be sticking Yosi with work during the campaign. That would be nice.
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Posted by: Leni looks like a slacker. | September 21, 2009 at 01:23 AM
OK, well I read it and it looks like Andrew is striking at the heart of the Axelrod message machine. I like the part where he says that tomorrow's expose will 'raise many more questions'. Well, today's expose.
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Posted by: Letterman ought to be revelatory later tonight. | September 21, 2009 at 01:34 AM
Here we see once again the stupdendous incompetence of this administration. How on earth would a bunch of Marxist artists affect the public debate about this asinine healthcare bill? The commie vote is already sewn up! It's the normal people who aren't convinced. Just the "flag@whitehouse.gov" operation, the half-dozen primetime press conferences, the bullying of ABC to run Zero's pitch in primetime without, the clumsy charges of racism planted by Axelgrease...this is all about doing the only thing they know how to do: campaign for the hearts and minds of idiots.
Posted by: Fresh Air | September 21, 2009 at 01:36 AM
It's astroturfing, and it's been poorly done
they used the Alinsky rulebook one too many times, and tipped their hand
Posted by: bishop | September 21, 2009 at 01:52 AM
Letterman ought to be revelatory later tonight,
We already know he and Obama will be trying to knock this Breitbart revelation to pieces by tomorrow night's Broadcast, as ">http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/09/20/deconstructing-dave/"> this "Deconstructing Dave" column by Vodkapundit tells us. And my guess is that because everybody will be watching Monday Night Football tomorrow anyhow, they'll keep John Edward's "I'm the Daddy" confession on the back burner till at least Wednesday.
Posted by: daddy | September 21, 2009 at 01:54 AM
When you follow the money, you end up at an abandoned funeral home in New Orleans. Combined home of ACORN/SEIU.
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | September 21, 2009 at 01:58 AM
I betcha the NYT's has had the story --whatever it is -- and killed it just like Acorn.
Posted by: TOPSECRETK9 | September 21, 2009 at 02:05 AM
Now I see that Dave Letterman's guest on Tuesday night will be Bill Clinton, so no reason for Edwards to confess until at least Friday soonest.
Posted by: daddy | September 21, 2009 at 02:22 AM
He is always great on RedEye.
Posted by: Harrison | September 21, 2009 at 02:57 AM
Here's">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/21/breitbart-the-politicized-art-behind-the-acorn-pla/">Here's Andrew Breitbart's latest from this mornings Washington Times. Expect we'll be seeing it all day.
Posted by: daddy | September 21, 2009 at 06:26 AM
Powerline">http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/09/024561.php">Powerline on particulars of the Media attempting to smear Keefe and Giles, The ACORN video patriots.
Posted by: daddy | September 21, 2009 at 06:33 AM
The Government-Hollywood-Media Complex…
NEA: National Endowment for Agitprop
ACORN: Child “Services”, Financial “Services”, “Voter” Registration ---Democrat Funded
Posted by: TrueNorth | September 21, 2009 at 06:35 AM
And on the heels of Andrew Breitbart's revelations and the media intentionally trying to slime and discredit Keefe and Giles, we get this from the President:
""Journalistic integrity, you know, fact-based reporting, serious investigative reporting, how to retain those ethics in all these different new media and how to make sure that it's paid for, is really a challenge," Mr. Obama said. "But it's something that I think is absolutely critical to the health of our democracy."
"What I hope is that people start understanding if you're getting your newspaper over the Internet, that's not free and there's got to be a way to find a business model that supports that."
">http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090920/NEWS16/909200326"> Link.
Posted by: daddy | September 21, 2009 at 06:48 AM
Thanks daddy.
No understanding of economics permeates his thoughts, even when they're scripted.
Let's remember as this story breaks today that leftist literature makes it clear that "service learning" is not about volunteering to help the less advantaged.
It's regarded as a substantial tool to reeducate how K-12 and college students view society. Its advocates see it as a means to get the young to always see themselves not as individuals but as part of a community and responsible for the common good.
What a useful mindset for pushing "health care reform" and cap and trade and other Trojan horses.
Ann- I didn't read your earlier link to the MOH dress as I was out of town. I just wanted to make sure the dress got coverage. It reveals there's more than cluelessness going on with MO.
Posted by: rse | September 21, 2009 at 07:28 AM
Be fair the Michelle she hasn't turned up in this!
Posted by: PeterUK | September 21, 2009 at 07:36 AM
Clarice - Wake Up!
Remember our discussion about Cass Suunstein last week and your promise to bring out your pistolas?
LUN
We talked about his views on websites but he is also hostile to online filtering technologies. He hates that they allow a highly personalized news retrieval service that Sunstein has dubbed - "The Daily Me".
Posted by: rse | September 21, 2009 at 07:40 AM
Hey! RichUF was back last night!
Hi Rich.
Just in time as Rick posted a link last night revealing that the Fed is buying maybe 50% of the US debt being issued, triggering new concerns about inflation. (too many new dollars and artifically low interest rates as a result...except eventually that can blow up.) And right on schedule, the WSJ picks up Rick's cue and reports on the same thing Monday, linking all that to the stock market.
Lot's of stuff happening.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 07:51 AM
Where's Caro?
Adrift somewhere in the Atlantic. Don't ask!
Posted by: Jane | September 21, 2009 at 08:04 AM
"revealing that the Fed is buying maybe 50% of the US debt being issued, triggering new concerns about inflation. (too many new dollars and artifically low interest rates as a result"
I would like to see some scholarly economics article on the effects of high housing prices. When almost everyone in the country is shipping off almost all their income every month to the banks in principle and interest, how does that effect the economy?
What it does is give the banks an almost unlimited amount of money to invest. However, with almost no one with disposable income, the banks invest in things that no one can afford to buy. The solution is to lower the interest rates, and decrease the money supply to the banks, as the Feds have done. However, there is a limit on the helpfulness of that as well because even if you lower the interest rates to zero percent, there is still a huge monthly principle payment draining away people's resources.
So the fix would be the lowering of housing prices through natural market forces. However, there also seems to be a limit to that. With today's job market, there is increased urbanization. Gone are the small farming and factory towns of yorn. People are forced to live in city centers to get the best jobs. Even with telecommuting you still have to go into the office on a regular basis. With this increased competition for jobs in specific locations, comes this arms race in housing prices. It's all about - 'who can pay more to get closer to the jobs center'.
I don't see the prices coming down THAT much anytime soon. I think this is the modern reality for now. It kind of reminds me on how royalty started. It probably started out with who owned what real estate. And then the owners of the real estate over time turned into gods.
Posted by: sylvia | September 21, 2009 at 08:07 AM
'Morning Jane.
Did you get my email with my address?
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 08:12 AM
"And then the owners of the real estate over time turned into gods."
If that were true, I could fix a lot of problems before lunch today.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 08:15 AM
Crikey, 50% of the debt, that can't be kosher, that's like paying yourself your
own credit balance. And we're supposed to act like Kevin Bacon and say "all is well"
Then again, what kind of sucker's bet would
the Chinese be taking, if they underwrote
this, maybe this is why when it comes to serious things, the 'credentialed morons'
in the room should be kept out, in the LUN
Posted by: bishop | September 21, 2009 at 08:15 AM
Washington Times (found this before I got to the kitchen) has lists of all participants in the WH/NEA conference and asks readers to help research whether these folks got grants etc:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/sep/20/partial-list-august-10-national-endowment-arts-tel/>Work for free, help your local newspaper
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 08:23 AM
It's called "Monetizing the Debt", Bishop. Any banana republic can do it.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 08:27 AM
The new Mime Artists for Healthcare Czar.
Posted by: PeterUK | September 21, 2009 at 08:30 AM
Regarding the debate about an insurance mandate being a tax, RCP has a decent Dick Morris column up today. LUN
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 08:31 AM
Audio tapes this time--to be released at noon--ABC/Tapper turned them down..don't know why.
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 08:31 AM
that's not free and there's got to be a way to find a business model that supports that."
C'mon. It's called ADVERTISING.
Please Gregory Koster, don't tell me this guy is some super genius.
So the fix would be the lowering of housing prices through natural market forces. However, there also seems to be a limit to that.
No, there's no limit, except things artificially induced by the govt. Real estate prices can, and do, collapse.
Posted by: Pofarmer | September 21, 2009 at 08:35 AM
Did you get my email with my address?
No. Can you send it to fwdaj@live.com?
Posted by: Jane | September 21, 2009 at 08:40 AM
PO!!! Read all of this including the linked stories about Carnahan family/ACORN corruption, govt paid astroturfed pro Oba,acare demos in Missouri.
http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/is-this-what-the-dem-operative-was-referring-to/>From the great state of Carnahan
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 08:44 AM
Yes, but we don't want him playing Getulio Vargas and the EStado Novo, or Peron, the
later years. 'Lord love a duck"
Posted by: bishop | September 21, 2009 at 08:45 AM
((Wasn't Joseph wearing something like that when he was sold into slavery by the brothers?))
daddy @10:19 too funny! Great postings on this thread (as usual)
Posted by: Janet | September 21, 2009 at 09:03 AM
Tell ya what Clarice, I've about given up on the Urban centres of MO. They are just about hopelessly corrupt, at this point. So many bad ideas, and so much bad legislations comes from there, it's going to take generation to get out the rot, if it doesn't kill us first.
Posted by: Pofarmer | September 21, 2009 at 09:04 AM
"Real estate prices can, and do, collapse."
Yes they can. And they have been somewhat in recent months. However, my contention is that because of the new infomation, non-manufacturing, based economy, market forces will keep based them high. Especially in urban centers, and urban centers have a leading effect on the rest of the country.
And then there is the countryside, which if you have taken any road trips through the countryside in say the South and Midwest, is pretty much abandoned. For instance we drove through Alabama once and for most of the state all we saw were tree farms and abandoned town squares, when you could even find a town. We will maybe have two countries, the urban and suburban country, where people are competing for proximity, and the forgotten rural country.
But these are just my theories. So my question is, what do the economists say the effect that the high real estate prices have on us in the future?
Posted by: sylvia | September 21, 2009 at 09:04 AM
"Peron, the later years."
We do wonder which role model interests him, don't we? He's not thinking far enough ahead...maybe he should leave the Swiss banks alone. No self respecting dictator can do his best work without a secret account.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 09:05 AM
"So my question is, what do the economists say the effect that the high real estate prices have on us in the future?"
From time to time there are studies checking on the number of hours worked to provide house today vs the fifties, and when adjusted for the difference in products now vs then (larger, air conditioned, more bathrooms, more and better appliances etc etc), they are not as expensive as one might think.
Posted by: Old Lurker | September 21, 2009 at 09:11 AM
Don’t bother bringing a sign. HCAN is supplying them. They prefer a sea of large, easy to read signs and a consistent message.
Now that's interesting. They know the canned signs shout ASTROTURF! to anyone with a pulse, yet they still "prefer" them. Guess they don't trust what their side would do with their own signs, huh?
Posted by: Extraneus | September 21, 2009 at 09:20 AM
Actually one suggestion, does come to mind,
it's one that was mulled over in the early part of the transition, in the LUN
Posted by: bishop | September 21, 2009 at 09:24 AM
That way if there are typos, at least they're consistent.
Posted by: rse | September 21, 2009 at 09:25 AM
Po--we need to get you your own radio program.
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 09:39 AM
"my contention is that because of the new infomation, non-manufacturing, based economy, market forces will keep based them high."
So, the problem is?????????
Posted by: Pofarmer | September 21, 2009 at 09:39 AM
That's a very interesting article, n, about Allende and 'La Realidad Socio-Medical Chilena. I like the 'like Engels and Virchow before him'.
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Posted by: Give me liberty, or give me Isoniazid. | September 21, 2009 at 09:42 AM
From the Big Hollywood article:
What I want to see exposed is just how much of that stimulus money went to enhance Obama's friends. Our children and grandchildren will be paying off this horrendous deficit for a good part of their lives. We know that $17 Billion of Stimulus money went to NY State for green projects. Just happens that Jeff Jones (co-founder of Weathermen with Bill Ayers and Mark Rudd) is NY State Director of Apollo Project which received the green funds.
Just like the Annenburg Challenge, Obama spreads the wealth to his fellow travelers.
Posted by: SWarren | September 21, 2009 at 09:50 AM
This whole Federal Government tied in with leftist community organizations to "better" our country reminds me of this quote:
"Organizers of Humanity"
"The claims of these organizers of humanity raise another question which I have often asked them and which, so far as I know, they have never answered: If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?"
Frederick Bastiat
To believe the motive of all private businesses is evil and that they wish to rob us and do us harm, while the "business of federal government" is all pure, is just ridiculous.
Posted by: Janet | September 21, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Janet--what a great quote.
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Clarice
Where did you read that Tapper turned whatever away?
Posted by: TOPSECRETK9 | September 21, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Got it in an email--apparently it was from a Fund interview on FNC but I am not positive of that.
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Janet, it's quite simple; these progressives do believe they are made of finer clay. That's the disconnect from reality these poor strutters have.
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Posted by: A poor part in a great play. | September 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM
ACORN is now a big NYC landlord:"ACORN has quietly become one of the Big Apple's biggest owners of low- and moderate-income housing, amassing a real-estate empire worth at least $50 million, The Post has learned. New York ACORN and a tangled web of affiliates own or manage nearly 1,500 housing units across three boroughs and draw in an estimated $5.7 million in rents, fees and profits from sales"
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nut_house_empire_A5WRj6MgbTHqsR3fQD31GL
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Janet, that's great. I think Milton Friedman said something similar - "and who are these angels who are going to organize society for us?"
Posted by: Porchlight | September 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM
audio tapes of the NEA conference and summary of article which accompanies them:
"If the NEA has done nothing wrong, why have they been dishonest?
From their own words this effort was not something that the NEA regularly performed; otherwise their Communications Director wouldn’t have called this a “brand new conversation.”
As to the statement that the conference call was not a means to promote any legislative agenda, I believe the handpicked pro-Obama participants on the call and the vehemently debated issues that the NEA encouraged the group to address show clear intent on the part of the NEA. And that intent was to create art that aligned with the administration’s partisan agenda.
On September 4th I called the chairman of the NEA, Rocco Landesman, requesting a response to these inconsistencies as well as to request a statement from the NEA regarding their brand new arts efforts. As of the publishing of this article I have not received a response.
With each passing day, the National Endowment for the Arts’ credibility is tragically deteriorating. The only action that can restore its credibility is a full disclosure and accounting of the events that led to the launch of this arts effort, the rationale behind this new NEA function, and a clear explanation of the obvious contradictions in their statements related to this conference call.
I hope the NEA addresses this soon so that they can get back to their mandated artistic, not political, work.
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http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/09/21/explosive-new-audio-reveals-white-house-using-nea-to-push-partisan-agenda/#more-227610>BG's Morning Post while we wait for high noon
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM
New thread...
Posted by: hit and run | September 21, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Rush is on the subject now - says the transcript is 44 pages long! And he is going to play some of the audio excerpts (says there is a total of 25 plus/minus).
Posted by: centralcal | September 21, 2009 at 12:11 PM
BG's Courrielche accuses NEA of lying to cover their tail and shows examples of pro-Obamacare art created in apparent response to the NEA initiative:
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/31/contradictions-are-revealing-politicizing-the-nea/>Lia liar
Posted by: clarice | September 21, 2009 at 12:12 PM