As You Work Out Today...

As you enjoy your daily workout give a thought to Jeremy Morris:

Jeremy N. Morris, a British epidemiologist whose comparison of heart-attack rates among double-decker bus drivers and conductors in London in the late 1940s and early ’50s laid the scientific groundwork for the modern aerobics movement, died Oct. 28 in Hampstead, London. He was 99 ½.

Comments

[peter]

Tom, I find these exercise related articles interesting, but you will not get a long thread out of it. Two possible reasons; JOMers are not interested in stating the obvious--i.e., exercise is good, or else JOMers just don't like exercise.

[bunky]

"Got may coat and grabbed my hat, made the bus in seconds flat"

"made my way upstairs and had a smoke, and somebody spoke and I went into a dream....."

[Captain Hate]

JOMers just don't like exercise.

Hey!!! I'm posting this between working out and taking out the trash dammit!

[Porchlight]

What is "working out"?

[Jane]

Porchlight - I just posted in the other thread, you are once again famous. You got an Instalaunch.

[No work, no eat. Can't work? See the Panel.]

So what is more likely to produce floods of arrhyhmogenic stress related chemicals, bus driving or bus conducting? I have no idea whether or not he controlled for this.

Yes, exercise is good. We used to have to hustle for food, ranging to gather and rooting, not to mention pursuing animals and fleeing from bees. When the government can no longer tax us to pay for the drugs to treat hypertension, atherosclerosis, obesity and diabetes, they will tell us to 'Work for Food'. They'll have us running electrical generating treadmills for rewards of nutrition pellets.
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[Porchlight]

Wow, Jane! Now my dad might be impressed. :)

[laura]

One of the things that has suprised me as I've read biography's of our founding fathers is how much store they put in exercise. Jefferson thought a man should have three hours of exercise a day, riding and walking his grounds at Carter's mountain was certainly strenuous. Then there's Adams who despite his portly appearance regularly walked 5 to 10 miles a day and was riding a horse and walking his fields a couple of miles into his 80's. He admonished his sons during their time at Harvard to get sufficient exercise and even if it was miserable outside to get up and pace around the room and essentially do calisthenics to wake up their brains. Of course, John Quincy was famous for his daily swims in the Potomac summer and winter.
Given their life spans I would say they had figured out the exercise angle.

As an aside, I know the old people's home in Hampstead. Sits at about the highest point in London right next to Hampstead heath and the loveliest place in all of London. And if he was still taking regular walks they were likely to be pretty hilly.

[interested]

This is certainly a more persuasive anecdote that the story of Jim Fixx who is credited with popularizing running and jogging in the US. Mr Fixx departed this world at age 52, the victim of a heart attack.

[Captain Hate]

What is "working out"?

Lifting weights, rowing machine, stomach crunches & pushups.

[Janet]

I only run if someone is chasing me with a knife.
This was interesting - "...their protection against heart attack could not be explained by their relative leanness. They had a lower risk of heart attack whether they were slim, average size or portly."

[anduril]

whatever else we do, we use our eyes constantly--exercise our eyes. and reading off a computer screen can be very tiring. one of my brothers sent me this article today: Cleaning Up the Clutter Online about a drag and drop javascript called "Readability."

Readability has changed my life.

It’s a new button on your Web browser’s toolbar. With one click, it eliminates EVERYTHING from the Web page you’re reading except the text and photos. No ads, blinking, links, banners, promos or anything else.

The text is also changed to a beautiful font and size (you choose them in advance) and the background is made plain white (or a light shading of your choice). Basically, it makes any Web page look like a printed book page or a Kindle page, and it’s glorious.

I’ve never understood how people can read Web articles when there’s Times-Square blinking going on all around them. Fortunately, I’ll never have to put up with them again. One click does the trick, thanks to Readability—and it’s free. (You get it, and set it up, here. It’s what’s known as a bookmarklet; you install it in your Web browser just by dragging its button onto your toolbar.)

I tried it on medium settings, and it certainly makes articles more readable. it doesn't have the same affect on lauch type pages like drudge or rcp. it has a print and an email function (it emails the original, not the readability version) as well as a return function to take you back to the original page. you might want to look at it.

[anduril]

first thing i do in the morning when i roll out of bed is a variety of stretches and exercises--situps and pushups. my wife and i take a 45min to 1hr walk every day and i often do a 1/2 hr bike ride as well.

[anduril]

Is gaming exercise? I'm not a gamer, but this one seems to have promise: Wish You Could Kill All The Bankers? There's An App For That.

[Jane]

I exercise, and I hate it. I'm now up to 145 push-ups at one sitting. And I hate it. More than anything I hate aerobic exercise. I just hate it. But I do it. Not enough. But I do, do it.

[anduril]

peter assures us that exercise posts don't lead to long threads, but i'm doing what i can. if a dual loyalty jihadi is chasing you with a knife, that's exercise, right? well, steve sailer has something to say about that: Major Hasan: Stereotypes and Dual Loyalties

[anduril]

I'm now up to 145 push-ups at one sitting.

whaaaaat?

[hit and run]

anduril:
peter assures us that exercise posts don't lead to long threads, but i'm doing what i can.

Heh, maybe installing linux qualifies as exercise?

I prefer the Obama method of measuring my exercise.

Laps/reps created or saved.

With a very heavy emphasis on the saved ones.

[Captain Hate]

I just turned 60 Sunday and I'm determined to stay in good enough shape to forcefully refute every lib by my mere existence. I think I'm physiologically hard-wired to not enjoy running; whatever pleasurable chemicals that fans of running (including my daughters) claim are released by running must not be triggered when I do it because I've gotten no good feelings out of it other than being tired.

145 pushups? Are those the ones where your knees stay on the ground or whatever surface you're pushing off from?

[Jane]

That's right anduril. 145! Apparently I have a very strong chest. Go figure.

[anduril]

hit, SUSE is up to version 11.2 now, but when I started, with version 5.2, I assure you (and my wife will, too) that installation qualified as a marathon. :-( since then, as i said, i've forgotten a major part of what i learned, because now it just works.

Laps/reps created or saved.

most excellent concept. DrJ isn't crazy about me proselytizing for Linux, but i'm not crazy about TM proselytizing for running. running addiction keeps my podiatrist bro in law fully employed, as he says, but the problem with running is that you don't know whether it will help or harm you until you do it for a while. when you start developing physical problems you'll know that it's not good for you, but then it's too late. i stopped in my early forties and glad i did.

btw, for all you walkers out there, may i make a product endorsement? some years ago i had minor arthroscopic surgery on my left knee, small cartilage tear. i still developed soreness, however. not as much as before, but a nagging annoyance. for some years now i've been using a type of brace called "kneed-it" it's just an elastic band with a velcro fastener and a plastic attachment that fits under the patella/knee cap. it has worked wonders for me. look it up on amazon. i think it costs under $20 and lasts forever. it isn't fastened tightly or anything. for anyone with nagging knee discomfort when they walk, this could do the trick. of course, i use running shoes and change them every 5-6 mos. and i also swap out the insoles fro pro-x foam "orthotics".

[anduril]

now, come on, jane, those are girl pushups, right? fess up! i'm not knockin' it, but 145! i thought i only scandinavian farmboys from minnesoooota did that.

i used to do 75 guy pushups, but that's hell on the elbows. now i do 15 fairly careful ones, and 20 slow and careful situps. i found that by doing slow and careful situps regularly like that i could pump out 50-60 in a minute for physical exams. same for pushups. slow, good form, maybe fewer reps, definitely the way to go.

[anduril]

i've been fooling around with that "readability" script. there's a problem with it, and not an insignificant one. it creates nice pages, and seems to retain images and links, but i came across a multi-page article and it didn't retain the link to the next page--bummer! i'll have to see if that's a constant problem or was peculiar to that article.

[Janet]

I think I'm just gonna lift some of Jeremy N. Morris's advice out of context...he said, "portly". Okay, that is the advice I'm gonna take.
and Jane - what a coincidence! I have a strong chest too, and I weigh 145!

[Porchlight]

anduril, that readability thing is interesting, my brother sent it to me, too. I'll have to check it out. It would be great for work. :)

In fact I think there used to be a website like that, where you could put in a URL and it would format the text to look like a Word doc instead of a regular website, but I think Microsoft shut it down.

[Captain Hate]

O/T Laura Ingraham is absolutely shredding Il Douche's narcissism in his Berlin speech, particularly the lack of any mention of Reagan and the hope he gave to the oppressed. Poor Bammy, getting pwn3d by a Sweetie again....

[MayBee]

I could probably eat 145 brownies in one sitting.

[anduril]

i should add, re my exercise: i cut my lawn with a hand mower, i gather leaves with a rake and do all the work on my roses by hand: pruning, weeding, etc. lots of up and down, knee bends, etc. and coming up in a few weeks i protect them for the winter--each bush gets a 40 lb bag of soil mounded over the center, so do the math: 40 x 60 is a lot of lifting and hefting. gardening is lots of exercise. anyone who cares, you can see a slideshow of my roses by LUN and waiting patiently for a few seconds while it loads.

[anduril]

i believe you're right, porch. readability isn't a cureall, but as a selective tool it's ok.

[Mustang0302]

102 years ago, President Teddy Roosevelt established the first physical fitness standards for the U.S. Army. Many officers of the time were outraged.

I'm sure T.R. would be outraged at Fat Blivet Traitor Hasan, for his lack of fitness among many other reasons.

[Mustang0302]

Tough guy strikes a blow against white privilege.

[peter]

OK, you all made liars out of me and made this a vital, well posted thread. See if I care!

[anduril]

peter, it's the kind of determination that got me through the first few linux installs. maybe the adrenalin rush of doing installs without backing up cleanses the system, too. i mean, the bodily system! i do back up now, but i've done and gotten away with a few crazy things in my time.

[anduril]

mustang, don't you love the lingo? an event happened, an event exploded. it wasn't, i was an asshole, it was the event, man.

[Captain Hate]

Tough guy strikes a blow against white privilege.

Ok here's a checklist for this:

A. Will Columbia fire this person or make him attend anger management courses?
B. Will the NYT cover this and, if so, will they blame the victim?
C. Will Il Douche say that he doesn't know the facts of the case but the woman acted stupidly?
D. Will this be called a hate crime and be pursued by the Justice Dept?

[anduril]

D. is a clear "no". black on white can't be hate.

[Mustang0302]

anduril,

How dare that woman assault that man's fist with her face!

[He threw an answer down Broadway to kill a question in the Bowery.]

Years ago I asked a doctor what would happen when Medicare starts refusing to pay for knee replacements because of the lifestyle(running) choices that people made in their middle age, which led to early knee destruction.

He barely batted an eye before responding that the question had been studied, and the overall aerobic benefits to the human organism outweighed the local damage to the knees.

I thought, heh, typical doctor answer.
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[Mustang0302]

E. Will Hasan say the guy 'lost his cool.'

[Captain Hate]

LOL @ any Columbia prof claiming that a group he doesn't belong to is "privileged".

[Foolish girl.]

Why did she jump into his fist?
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[anduril]

"typical doctor answer"

don't get me started. all the latest studies show you don't need to run to get the benefits. i hate when they come up with those broad assertions that just don't hold water.

[Jack is Back!]

Currently on Fox News they have resurrected "Able Danger". Remember that? OOOOOh, how awful to profile the religion of pieces. Next, an interview with John Poindexter.

[StrawmanCometh]

"Apparently I have a very strong chest. Go figure."

I'm figuring you have a very girly chest and only have to flex an inch to touch the floor.

[glasater]

"Mac"--as he was known in that bar--was obviously hammered:)

[Jane]

now, come on, jane, those are girl pushups, right? fess up! i'm not knockin' it, but 145! i thought i only scandinavian farmboys from minnesoooota did that.

Hahahahaha! I do 100 of them on a split surface - one hand up 6 inches on a step and one on the floor.

Girl push-ups - harrumph!

[clarice]

The day started out so promising--what with nude pics of porchlight (I'm not buying that story about another cartoon character) and all and now is all about banks, linuX, knee braces and exercising!
ICK.

[Porchlight]

Yeah, clarice, me too...I had to get out of that shower and go to work.

[JohnnyI]

He's still dead though, right?

[daddy]

Well I'm definitely just in the pre-season workout stage for College Basketball.

"Go to...whew...

"Got to he...puff, puff, puff...

"Go to HecK Duke!....wheeze,... cough, cough..."

Man, back to the gym for me.

[Frau Leibesübung]

We walk 3 miles in the a.m. and 2 after dinner. That's when I get to regale my husband with all the news/dirt from JOM and kvetch about the news.
It's been about 10 years since I stopped playing indoor handball. A friend and I, both barely 5'2", played cutthroat with a *tall* and much older lawyer who lost to Richard M. Nixon in a primary race for Congress in 1948. We must have been like gnats zipping about his knees. I'm sure our friend arranged for the games so he could kiss us hello and goodbye.(Isn't that what all men want?) He played to WIN! WIN! WIN! even to the point of fibbing about shots. Our game was fun; he was after blood. I must mention that he was a Democrat, Yale LS. He died earlier this year, was a dear friend but unrelenting when it came to politics. He had had 4, count 'em, 4 hip replacements.
Jane, I just bragged on you to my husband. If he saw your flaxen locks, he would be smitten.

[clarice]

You'll be happy to know that but for swimming and some occasional walking and pilates classes, I am holding down the sedentary end of this board..otherwise the average exercise activity count would be off the charts. And we certainly wouldn't want that.

[Jane]

Oh I'm sedentary Clarice. I work out, but I hate it, and I fall off the wagon constantly.

I'm just particularly proud of those pushups which I only do once a week.

[clarice]

Jane, forget about it--your upper arms can never match those of busy mom and fashion icon MO.

[Frau Leibesübung]

I'm thinking of having an "S" tattooed on my rear for sedentary. I'm with Jane; I hate the work out, etc. Handball was like dancing, however, and was really fun.

Will we get to see you on YouTube, Jane?

[daddy]

Glad to hear you're a handballer Frau,

Great sport. Was Intermural Doubles Champion in College 1 year---of course there were only about 6 guys on campus who knew how to play the game, so it sounds impressive but really wasn't. Does anybody even play indoor handball anymore, or is it nothing but Racketball? And is squash dead also? Haven't been on a handball court myself in ages.

[peter (Lenten Sunday dispensation)]

I went to a high school that had an indoor handball court. Great fun. Haven't played it in many years, unfortunately. Squash has a few outlets around, not many.

[Jane]

WE will see you long before moi Frau. Sheesh!

[anduril]

many of you may have seen this, but it's a good exchange between ann coulter and o'reilly:

< href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/11/ann_coulter_on_fort_hood_media_coverage__terrorism.html">Foot Hood

[anduril]

oh, sshhhhh...

Foot Hood

[Captain Hate]

OK, you all made liars out of me and made this a vital, well posted thread. See if I care!

I assume that most of the posters here just work out to stay in shape and don't talk about it endlessly like the denizens of the meat markets that health clubs became in the 80s and 90s.

[anduril]

From the Washington Post (via Steve Sailer):

Leaders of the U.S. Naval Academy tinkered with the composition of the color guard that appeared at a World Series game last month so the group would not be exclusively white and male. ...

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, elevated diversity to a "strategic imperative" during his tenure as chief of naval operations. Academy leaders, on their official Web site, call diversity "our highest personnel priority."

That thinking reflects "a sea change, in that this initiative was generated from within the military, rather than imposed from without by civilian overseers," said retired Marine Maj. Gen. Thomas Wilkerson, an academy alumnus and chief executive of the U.S. Naval Institute, an independent think tank. Some alumni, he said, "have voiced concerns that it will happen at the expense of quality and combat readiness."

A military-oriented blog, CDR Salamander, reported last week that two white men had been pulled from the color guard that went to Yankee Stadium and replaced with an Asian American man and a white woman to make the group more diverse

Academy leadership disputed that account.

"No midshipman was ever given approval to attend this event and then later told they could not," said Capt. Matthew Klunder, commandant of midshipmen, in a statement Monday. He said he considered replacing two white men but chose to expand the color guard from six to eight to make it more representative of the Naval Academy.

Two of the eight could not perform because Zishan Hameed, one of the midshipmen added to the color guard, had forgotten parts of his uniform, Klunder said. The color guard marches in pairs.

[clarice]

It's clear that the balkanization of the troops under the rubric of multiculturalism is a stupid and disastrous policy..as bgates notes --what's the antonym for diversity (hint:what do we call the outfit a soldier wears?)
UNIFORM
E PLURIBUS UNUM
One--

[sbw]

Diversity... but don't ask...

[Jane]

Diversity... but don't ask...

That really says it all, doesn't it?