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November 06, 2009

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Thomas Collins

I understand that discussion of motives and inner psyche is always a part of reactions to these events, so let me give you my sensitive assessment.

This scum is a cold blooded murderer.

Tone deaf, too.

'Ear Leader'. I love it.
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Thomas Collins

I suspect the video of Obama's news conference has already been posted here, but I think it is worth being posted again (see LUN). No clearer evidence could be found that the center of gravity of this Presidency is slice and dice interest group politics, not defending America and honoring the military's sacrifice in defending America.

clarice

The effect of the refusal of papers like the LATimes to be hoionest about Islamist terrorism and their general opec-ness means that people will draw conclusions about perps that may not be true. When the paper refuses to give descriptions of an on the lam murder suspect, do you think most readers imagine a blonde haired, blue eyed Swede? I don't.In other words, I think this reticence is having the opposite effect the editors envision.

Jane

I couldn't agree more TC. And the immediate pushback from his family ("he was harrassed") was insulting and offensive. Or is that the new excuse for murder?

wuzzagrunt

For the most part, people don't just "snap". People who go on killing rampages give off a lot of warning signals. Yeah, the loner/loser who shares a house with his mother's rotting corpse, and only leaves to cash her social security check, can slip under the radar.

An Army medical officer does not just "fall through the cracks", however. A number of people willingly turned a blind eye to his words and behavior (whatever they in fact were).

The fact that his alleged jihad-friendly internet postings and statements have gone uninvestigated for 6 months or more, says a lot.

Political correctness kills.

clarice

**honest**
pc'ness***

Porchlight

I think this reticence is having the opposite effect the editors envision.

I agree, clarice, and so does VDH.

At some point, if both these organized plots (see the most recent in Boston) and isolated acts of lone gunmen and homicidal drivers continue, and if the prevailing theme continues to be fears of American intolerance and unfairness to Muslims after 9/11, I think the public will resent the disconnect between what they are told to think and what they believe, on the basis of some evidence.
anduril

quick aside: paul krugman seems to have finally figured out that abject cheerleading and even ass kissing won't get him a prestigious appointment--his last several columns have been highly critical of the administrations policies. funny.

Matthew Crandall

Liberal Tweek of the Day:

It seems to me that this bloodshed is on Obama's hands. If he had ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan like he promised during the campaign, this killing would never have happened.

verner

Personally, I don't give a @!!# about his inner psyche. I'm just mad as hell that our military has become so politically correct that they allow an obvious rabid radical Islamist to operate as a physician on a military base.

As far as I can tell, the only difference between Hasan and a member of the Afghan Taliban is a turban and goat shit on his shoes.

bgates

A transcript of Obama's news conference:

OBAMA: What up, First Nations? It's great to be here. Mad props to the Department of Interior for their conferencing skillz. I gots ta give a shout out to Joe "Two Crows", winner of the...Imperial Legion of Merit. You da man, Joe! No, you da man! OK, I'm da man.

Hey, so, somebody shot a couple dozen soldiers a few minutes ago. At times like this, our hearts are with the families of the victims, especially the children.

And speaking of "chill", y'all squaws got to settle down. Earlier I was like, "hey sweetie, get me a soda", and the bitch got all up in my grill like, "Pardon me, Mr President, but I'm the Deputy Undersecretary for Indian Affairs." I mean, how does that get me a soda?

It's not really what I wanted to talk about, but let me effortlessly - no, use "graceful" in the writeup, guys, let me gracefully segue back into a real Presidential moment about how deeply we feel the loss of the Marines. Army guys? Was it-they're all Army guys, though, right? Anyway, it's a tough loss for anybody's country when your soldiers get shot, and we're no different or better than any other country when it comes to that. It hurts whether the deaths come in one of Bush's senseless wars - I mean, his senseless war in Iraq, or in the war in Afghanistan that I'm totally locked in on finding out whether we ought to leave after nine years of Bush's indecision, or whether the deaths happen here in one of the...states. Our brave men and chicks in uniform know that their service is honored, but also kind of a gamble with their lives.

But I don't need to tell y'all about gambling, right? Dawg, I was in the casino before, and I was like, "damn, they went all Moe Greene up in here!" Off da hook!

So in conclusion, much love to First Nations, let me apologize for what the White Man did to you, almost as bad as the slavery my people experienced, and if anybody wants to help out with the wounded from the Army thing - I think it's like 18 dead and 40 wounded or something - just remember that we're committed to making sure they're all treated by the Army doctors. Which is government health care, basically. And I don't want to get all partisan at a time like this, but Republicans hate government health care, so I guess they'd rather just let our wounded bleed to death.

Something to think about. Peace!

anduril

Robert George comments succinctly re Obama's bizarre disconnect, which we've all been remarking upon. I was surprised to see this on NBC:

President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships.

After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.

But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner." Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?

clarice

bgates, that is magnificant!

How could this genius not have simply said something like :
My intention was to thank the attendees of this conference and particularly Chief Snow and the Interior Dept for this fine and productive conference. Unfortunately, we have had an unspeakable tragedy at Ford Hood that preempts my plans.
(And then talk only about Ft Hood, the nation's loss, the love and concern we all have for the soldiers and their families and friends.)

Sue

bgates,

Hysterical.

Sue

To be honest with you, when I was watching Obama's opening remarks I thought Fox had screwed up and was running a tape of the president from earlier in the day. I kept waiting for them to say, oops, sorry. When he finished his inappropriate remarks, and started discussing Ft. Hood, I just sat there with my jaw dropped. I couldn't believe what I had just witnessed. And he did all of this with plenty of time of advance notice of the events going on in Texas.

Jane

A number of people willingly turned a blind eye to his words and behavior (whatever they in fact were).

That's political correctness for you.

anduril

yeah, bgates, i watched that on youtube--you captured the moment!

How does that get me a soda?  Peter's laughing at that one.

bgates, you are helping me with this Peter business as much as anyone is.
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Jane

Okay I'm in on the latest rumble of BGates. How spectacular was that - which I fully intend to steal.

Altho the most breathtaking part of the presser was the presidebt's ability to switch gears from his gleeful shout out to somber caring without a blink. Truly evidence that he meant neither.

Jim Ryan

bgates, Oh no you di'n't!

Truly evidence that he meant neither.

When you're a manipulative narcissist, "meaning things" is not something that you do.

We got a nice meme though.  That 'shout out' will haunt him.

Jane, that is sociopathic. The whole sorry episode was.
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wuzzagrunt

Barack Obama is The Incredible Shrinking President.

Thomas Collins

Bgates, you may have done the impossible, namely, topped your Montezuma post. :-))

Of course, when the nominations for best JOM posts of the year come out, they will be in different categories. The Montezuma post will be in the "Quick Wit" category and this one will be in the "Symphonic Satire" category.

I was going to say that Bgates' press conference "transcript" is worthy of Iowahawk, but I am going to amend that to say Iowahawk's posts are worthy of bgates!

Porchlight

bgates, may I send that around, with attribution of course? You are brilliant. I still have your election reaction post (the one that mentioned the first college transfer President) saved and grin at it from time to time.


the presidebt's ability to switch gears from his gleeful shout out to somber caring without a blink. Truly evidence that he meant neither.

Jane,

Shades of Ron Brown's funeral.

clarice

Something's missing in that guys makeup, that's for sure.

DAVOD

"Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?"

Give the guy a break. It was probably to difficult to update the teleprompter. You know how fickle Totus is.

Thomas Collins

Attribution, Porchlight? I am supposed to give bgates credit when I shamelessly steal bgates material???? :-)))

anduril

This from NPR via WND:

The Muslim Army psychiatrist who allegedly opened fire on fellow soldiers at Fort Hood and killed 13 aggressively pushed Islam on his patients to the point he was disciplined over the issue, according to a report today.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, is suspected of opening fire with two handguns yesterday at the Texas base's readiness center, where soldiers were getting last-minute checkups before deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan .

A source told National Public Radio's Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was given a period of probation early in his postgraduate work for proselytizing Islam with coworkers and soldiers he was treating.

caro

Bravo, bgates!

fdcol63

Lone-wolf psycho or committed terrorist insurgent, Hasan shared the same religious and political beliefs.

As far as I'm concerned, they're all psychotic, uncivilized, cave-dwelling, goat-buggering barbarians stuck in the 7th Century, and they share the same cause for their deadly psychosis:

Radical Islam.

We can continue to delude ourselves with political correctness and pretend not to see the 2-ton elephant in the room, or, we can wake the f**k up and recognize the danger.

Whatever this religion is, or whatever brand or sect of Islam it is, it is mutually incompatible with us and with the kind of culture and society we'd like to live in today.

We can not co-exist with it, and it poses a direct threat to our basic rights of life and liberty. It must be eradicated if we OURSELVES are to continue.

clarice

bgates I blogged that fabulous riff. Don't know if it'll run or when, but I credited you--

bgates

Thanks, everybody. As far as passing it around - My attitude is that if the comedy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a radio business, you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of listeners who will agree to hear you, and right now everybody’s so depressed that it's bad for everybody and I think when you spread the humor around, it’s good for everybody.

Porchlight

LOL, bgates. Watch your back that you don't get Joe the Plumbered.

clarice

xoxoxobgates, humor, it's just what the doctor ordered.

Thomas Collins

From anduril's post, it appears that NPR may be stepping up a bit to reality in its coverage. I hope reality wins out.

Neo
Soldiers who witnessed the rampage reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" - an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" - before opening fire
“Allahu Akbar!” == poor "harassed psychiatrist"

Now the "PC bunch", which seems to include the FBI, are telling us that his being a Muslim had nothing to do with the shootings. Instead we are to believe that he was merely a poor "harassed psychiatrist."

Apparently, anybody yelling “Allahu Akbar!” should now be considered a poor "harassed psychiatrist" hellbent on killing everybody nearby. I wonder if the American Psychiatric Association will now come under Patriotic Act scrutiny.

I guess the phrase "going Postal" will be replaced with "going Psychiatric Arabic"

MayBee

love bgates!

Thomas Collins

Allahu Akbar must be a chant from the Anglican Book of Common Prayer. It couldn't have anything to do with any notion that Hasan thought he was acting in furtherance of jihad.

Neo

The irony of ironies is that Hasan was put down by 4 shots by a WOMAN police officer, who herself was shot.

Porchlight

This is all running according to a common theme. We saw it last night during the discussion with Charlie. The "logic" goes:

--Person does X
--"Only a crazy person would do X"
--Therefore, person must be crazy

Only crazy people shoot into crowds, therefore Hasan must have been crazy.

Follow up with sympathetic BS about harrassment, PTSD, alienation, loneliness, etc. etc., and repeat.

It ignores the plain reality that sometimes perfectly sane people plan and carry out hideous acts.

Thomas Collins

See LUN for a good summary of reality and the fantasy world presented by Establishment Media yesterday.

clarice

He's going to have a do over, I think this afternoon. I suppose even his stupid Obambi in the WH caught on that was a juvenile production yesterday.

Almost as good as his kissing the hem of the Saudi king.

Thomas Collins

Jihad Watch has thread to thread coverage on Hasan the cold blooded murderer(who murdered in the name of Allah).

See LUN.

Thomas Collins

For some reason I don't expect Yale University Press to be the publisher of the definitive book on Hasan's murderous rampage.

Mike Huggins

(From Thomas Collins) "it appears that NPR may be stepping up a bit to reality in its coverage."

Maybe so TC, but when I turned on NPR's ME this morning they had the obligatory, over indulgent, worried-about-a-"backlash"-let's-jump-to-the-CAIR-reaction story on.

The more I hear the MSM'ers constantly repeat the "he was harassed because he was Muslim" excuse, sans any evidence other than his family not surprisingly trying to paint his past behavior in the best possible light, the less I believe it. Maybe he was "harassed" for other reasons, like being a wackjob who turned on America and supported suicide bombers.

DebinNC

Hasan's family said he'd been called a "camel jockey". Apparently, they share Obama's tin ear re an appropriate response to mass murder.

clarice

The next time you're with a lefty friend--and we all have them--who expresses a worry about a backlash against Muslims, ask him for some examples. This was the meme after 9/11 and the only incident I can recall was some dumb drunk in the nowheresville shot a sikh. Not a nice thing (and ,Chaco, I actually have always liked Sikhs) but not the sort of backlash which is so terrifying we must lobotmize ourselves about where danger lies.

DebinNC

Insty has an interesting post quoting an NPR piece, which has been updated to include this:

There’s actually some additional news in the new version, which is that Walter Reed has been told not to talk to anyone outside the military, even the FBI.

Is this usual, or is something very worrisome going on here?

Thomas Collins

Mike Huggins, I have heard and read similar stuff from NPR over the last 20 or so hours. I hope they are changing their tune.

So, Hasan was called a "camel jockey?" That's the best they came up with? Let's see, in my life I've been called a dumb Irishman, a hot tempered mick, a starving Armenian (stop laughing at the "starving" part, Jane and caro!:-))), a syphilitic bull____ sucker, a retard with the brains of a tse-tse fly, and a stuttering idiot, to name a few. And I am leaving out the nasty ones due to JOM being a family blog. I never thought any of this would justify me shooting anyone.

Captain Hate

Is this usual, or is something very worrisome going on here?

The flow of information has been extremely problematic in this whole thing.

Rick Ballard

"is something very worrisome going on here?"

A little scrubbing is all. He didn't fit the islamofascist illiterate goathumping misogynist profile so a few of what could now be noted as "worrisome signs" on his fitness reports will be polished up.

Jane

What is "camel Jockey" supposed to mean?

Captain Hate

A dismissive term for Arab, Jane

Jane

I knew that part Cap'n, I just thought maybe there was a literal meaning.

Neo

Apparently, a Nidal Hasan, Uniformed Services University School of Medicine, was listed a one of the Task Force Event Participants in The George Washington University, Homeland Security Policy Institute's "PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION TASK FORCE, April 2008-January 2009"

LUN

Mike Huggins

TC - (to quote Maxwell Smart) "...and loving it!"
Yeah, they didn't really set that bar too high.

DebinNC

Obama will attend Fort Hood memorial. I remember Clinton's rebound after attending the Oklahoma City memorial. I hope Obama letting his mask slip yesterday diminishes his chances of using the TX deaths as cynically as he'd like.

Mustang0302

Aw. Somebody needs a hug.

Another victim of American Hegemony, spreading his tales of woe, while perpetuating new victimhood. More resentment. Mau-Mauing the Flak-Catchers. Community Organizing. Recruiting. Alinsky would beam with pride.

Reminds me of the poor, delicate, 5'6"/190lb-flower of Islam; the harassed, oppressed, and mocked, yet well-paid, exquisitely educated & trained United States Army Field-Grade Officer, Doctor, and Psychiatrist, Dr. Hasan. Someone in his chain of command has miscalculated. Was it P.C. or "for good order and discipline?" Either way, someone has called Hasan's bluff. The gig's up. "Pack your bags, Doc."

Disgraced. Humiliated. Resentful. Finally, vengeful. Qutb would gnash his teeth in commiseration.

He opens fire - by surprise, on a crowded room of mostly junior enlisted soldiers (essentially, his children...had he been any kind of real officer). Some of them, possibly, his patients.

Only to be shot four times by a 5'4"/120lb (if that!) American police officer who carries out her duty with pride, skill, aggressiveness, and confidence...under fire. Resentment? She didn't have time for such trivial, selfish, self-destructive thoughts. She had innocent, unarmed American lives at stake, who were at the mercy of an armed coward, driven by the death-watch beetle of his own festering resentment.

The crowning glory of radical Islam.

Shot down like a dog, by a woman.

If only he'd gotten a hug in time.

Bravo Zulu, Sergeant Munley.

Thomas Collins

Giving away your age, Mike Huggins (unless you claim you are a Millenial Generationer watching bootlegged reruns on your PC). :-))

Rick, the scrubbing of Hasan's record may be more accurate, but I was thinking of airbrushing that would be worthy of a Hugh Hefner publication.

fdcol63

http://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_edu.asp?License_No=0101238630

Hey, Ann.

I note, Mustang0302, Sergeant Munley's also called Kim.
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anduril

What is "camel Jockey" supposed to mean?

Literally, it means someone who rides a camel in his underwear.

fdcol63

Looks like they've already scrubbed Hasan from this site:

Center for The Study of Traumatic Stress

http://cstsonline.org/members/cstsmember-69_Hasan

Rick Ballard

TC,

No, you're right about airbrushing rather than scrubbing. The records will be sealed and it will take a very strong connection to get the whole truth out. The Death To All Infidels banner on his office wall will be described as just a little joke - like his shrine to Osama or the OBL-666 personalized license plates. After all, he was a well educated citizen of the United States.

Who could ever have guessed....

Sue

We have another shooting in Orlando.

Mustang0302

Kim. A fine name for a strong, brave American police officer.

If I ever meet her, I'll shake her hand, thank her, and call her "Sergeant Munley."

Mustang0302

Or, for that matter, a fine name for ANY strong, brave American woman!

bgates

The President has weighed in with this:

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

He continued, "Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role religion played in that. But I think it's fair to say that the Muslim acted stupidly."

anduril

bgates, you fooled me with the presser transcript, but not this time. no way does he say anything like that.

Sue

Shephard Smith just alluded to the idea that the Army wanted friends and acquaintances of the shooter to think he died while they interviewed them. Now, given that Shephard is so very cautious about speculating instead of straight news, I would think he has had some confirmation of that. I am only slightly snarking on Shep. I think they deliberately lied about him being dead for some reason.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

bg:

I saw the whole clip of the Once live yesterday at the "Superchief conference", and your brilliant impression rings truer than the actual words he used.

It will go to my entire distribution list for the laugh of the day.

Ann

Hey, back at ya Kim!

hit and run

If a president can't jovially approach his somber presser to express his disappointment in the horrific outburst of violence that demonstrates that as a nation we have not lived up to his call to be each other's brother's keeper and have not fully embraced the ideals that have made this nation worthy of apologizing for,putting his domestic agenda at peril,then the terrorists have already won.

Sue

General George Case, Army CoS: This was a kick in the gut. Don't rush to judgment. Keep other soldiers informed. Confidence in personnel at Ft. Hood. Army no stranger to tragedy. Draws strength from diversity. The stories of courage and heroism, proud to be the leader of them. Stories of medics at graduation ceremony running to sound of gunshots to help wounded in caps and gowns. Wounded soldiers giving first aide to other wounded soldiers. We take care of our own. Grieve as a family. Maintain our focus on missions around the world. Will not be able to give particulars about suspect and crime scene.

Mustang0302

We have another shooting in Orlando:

"Rodriguez, an engineer, was released in June 2007 for performance issues, Bernof said. He could not say why. The firm performs transportation engineering work with the Florida Department of Transportation."

Shep Smith: "Rodriguez? Hey, Her-raldo, your Victim's on deck, I'm gonna stay with mine."

clarice

Believe it or not one of the two politablog websters made a rather similar comment on my AT post about the presser..only it seems he meant it.

bgates

Draws strength from diversity.

And what army could be more diverse than one in which some of the soldiers want to murder the rest of the soldiers? That's viewpoint diversity!

Don't rush to judgment.

Is that a danger? The general seems to have decided very quickly that it is.

Thomas Collins

See LUN for Ralph Peters on Fort Hood. Here is an extract from the article:

"There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him."

Sue

bgates,

That was a rush on what he said. He might have said adversity. Don't quote me until it is seen elsewhere. ::wink::

Neo

Big Government is reporting that agents of the Attorney’s General office in Louisiana have raided ACORN’s offices in New Orleans

Jim Ryan

I thought O said that the police woman acted stupidly for gunning down the assailant instead of reflecting upon her own American arrogance.

Sue

Shephard Smith: Investigators can tells news media and others whatever they want to in an effort to get to the facts of the case. We don't know exactly what the thinking of that was behind all of that but we do know they had many hours to interview suspects or anybody who might be related to this man or this incident in any way. Anybody who might have wanted to tell an untruth could do so with the knowledge that the shooter is dead. But he wasn't. We wonder what sort of advantage that gave them and how brilliant a move that might have been along the way.

Mustang0302

I thought O said that the police woman acted stupidly for gunning down the assailant instead of reflecting upon her own American arrogance.

Of course. Hasan's gonna whine, "She didn't even yell 'Stop, Police!' before she shot me!"

Pure American Female Arrogance.

Porchlight

I think they deliberately lied about him being dead for some reason.

Sue,

I read speculation elsewhere that if they let it be known that he was dead, it might trigger terrorist activities elsewhere - so, a move to smoke out possible collaborators. Have no idea how valid that is.

hit and run

"She only shot me because I'm Muslim. well, that and because I don't look like those guys on the dollar bills."


clarice

I read there's a Muslim military organization and they say they've never had a single complaint of mistreatment in the US military reported to them. But let's pretend--like pretending that this monstrous health policy is about improving health care and reducing the deficit.

Jane

I look forward to a second beer summit once Hasan gets off the ventilator.

clarice

Jane, you are really becoming a wiseass.(I like that, of course.)

bad

LOL Jane. It would be just like presidebt doofus to offer a beer summit to a muslim.

anduril

Ralph Peters' comment simply reflects the way most bureaucracies operate. Under this administration it'll only get worse, but that's they way it too often goes. As he says, "one red flag after another," but folks in authority are afraid for their careers in these politically correct times. Sad.

Jim Ryan

Jane, oh no you di'n't!

Sue

PFC Marquest Smith: In SRP as she was doing paperwork heard popping noises didn't know what it was at first ignored it until heard groaning and someone said gun. Was hit in his boot. Didn't see the shooter. Chaotic, everyone trying to get out, lot of yelling and screaming. Can't speak about the civilian officer that shot the shooter, didn't see it.

Sue

PFC Smith is a he, not a she.

bgates

PFC Smith is a he, not a she.

Obviously.

Who ever heard of a girl named "Marquest"?

Couldn't resist.

Or a boy named Sue.
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anduril

hell, everybody knows that.

bad

All male names eventually are co-opted and given to baby girls.

Porchlight

All male names eventually are co-opted and given to baby girls.

Male --> female is definitely the trend with names, esp. lately with the numbers of girl Camerons, Aidans, Rowans, Quinns etc. inching up in the elemntary schools.

Frau Roggenbrot

Listening to Jane's "special someone" on the radio this a.m. sure was the right medicine. Steyn went for the jugular of the P.C. idiots who helped keep a 5'6" nutcase in position for his murderous and cowardly attack. I've known and heard of psychiatrists who lose touch with normal reality; they are generally led off by co-workers to receive help.

Now, will the current CIC give a shout out to the heroic woman who shot the piece of carp?

BTW- for the person who wondered yesterday what the KozKidz felt about the D.C. gathering, it was called a freak show. Talk about projection! Dana Milbank didn't go that far, but stated that the throng was filled with angry, ugly people (aka Rethugs). My hackles are up, Janet.

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