Sunday Morning

It's the traditional Sunday morning open thread. 

Here is a poser that stumped me at a social event last night - come up with a President who has double consonants in his first and  last names.  The judges did not accept my "Johnny Kennedy", so have at it.

Comments

[sylvia]

Teddy Roosevelt. Okay not technically correct, but almost there.

[sylvia]

Was there a Millard Fillmore? Or was it Filmore? Or was that even a President? I am trying to do this without the benefit of google. Trying not to cheat. Yet.

[sylvia]

Just googled and I am correct sir! So what do I win?

[sylvia]

Tom maybe you should delete my entry or put spoiler alert on it. Don't want to ruin the fun for everyone else!

[Pagar]

Since the first one was so easy, here is a harder one. Guess which political party the Senator who made this statement belonged to.

"“We should be stopping the growth of government not expanding it more.“

LUN

For a tie breaker, guess what she voted for after she made the above remark.

[Jack is Back!]

We are in Belgium for Thanksgiving, although they don't celebrate Thanksgiving, of course, but we will with "mosselen met frites". Big news hear and in the UK is the election of Belgian Premier Herbert von Pompuy to be the new EU President and Barroness Ashton to be the EU Foreign Secretary. The Times put it succinctly, "they have elected two garden gnomes...". But the really big news that everyone is still talking about is the Thierry Henry handball (actually a lateral) and William Gallas' winning goal to put France in the World Cup over their indignant opponent Ireland. The Irish have their dander up and for a good reason - all appeals have bee denied, even one to the Pope. Aw to back in Europe where even the most boring stuff is exciting.

[Pagar]

$300 million was probably small Change, here's going to be the real Take Home Whatever You Can Championship round.

"Snowe still in discussions with Obama about final health vote"

[Thomas Collins]

Good one, pagar! And especially timely.

Sylvia, you're on a roll.

OK, here's a tougher one. Which Founding Father both served as President and attended the institution of higher learning from which my oldest child received her undergraduate degree? Hint-The football team of the institution plays in the Colonial Athletic Association.

I know that's a goofy question, but with Blanche Lincoln et al voting to advance ObamaCare last night, it's either goofy or chewing on nails for me this morning.

[Thomas Collins]

See LUN for the WSJ article on the "centrists my a$$" sellout on ObamaCare.

[Janet]

If the WaPo is any clue, what will come of the released emails is exactly nothing. Mentioned and forgotten.
I think I'll ride my little motorcycle to church this morning and pray for God's mercy on our great country. There has always been a remnant...I guess we're it.

[Thomas Collins]

Byron York is more optimistic than I am about yesterday's vote. See LUN (via Instapundit).

[peter]

So the real Obama legacy is that middle class taxpayers will be paying more for the rest of their lives to finance some corrupt little Huey Long inspired graft. disgusting.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

I've another WarmingGate piece up at PJM.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Don't despair, Janet. Think of Watergate — it was years between Deep Throat and the first court case.

I'd be very surprised if this doesn't lead to formal misconduct complaints to CRU, Penn State, and NCAR.

[Bob K]

Bishop Hill provides a short synopsis with links to some of the more interesting CRU climate science emails that were released without authorization.

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/11/20/climate-cuttings-33.html

[rse]

William Henry Harrison.

I only googled to doublecheck which President he was.

He was 9th.

Can we have a JOM trivia team on this rainy day?

[Melinda Romanoff]

Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson...

Anybody bring cards?

[Old Lurker]

Should we buy stock in Maine? I see a windfall in its future.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Janet, I can't give details, but definitely don't despair — this is not going away. I'll keep linking as things come together.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

But the issues are coming out, even in the MSM. See this in the WP today.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Chaco-

By any chance do you know of the Hart house at Duke? Just curious, a friend of mine grew up in it.

[Captain Hate]

Watching FNS I'm absolutely stunned at the abject stupidity of Debby Stabenow (it might be spelled incorrectly but I don't care because anybody as dumb as she is probably doesn't spell it correctly anyway). Anybody voting for this ignorant scrunt can't be considered a serious person.

Now Arlen Specter saying "the opposition refuses to admit there's a problem with glowbull warming". LOL; no fool like an old fool.

[hit and run]

Good Morning.

A celebration is in order.

So off we go...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TM!!!!

Best Dear Leader EVAH!

[boris]

Charlie, you ask: "Is the data really valid?"

ISTM that's like asking "does the ink blot really look like three squirrels in a cluster fark?"

If there was anything to the science they wouldn't be cheating so hard. My guess ... the warmists have been claiming to know what nobody can know. Claiming to predict what nobody can predict. The science to support their claims does not (yet) exist.

That's one thing that makes it difficult to oppose as a skeptic. Their claims can't be disproven because the "science" to do so also does not yet exist. So it seems the best skeptics can do is expose the cheats and the scams.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Melinda, of course I do — I drove past it every day. When was your friend living there? When I was there, there was a short-lived fuss that Duke was going to evict the widow who was living there; as usual with Duke, they relented as soon as it became bad publicity.

And before I wish TM happy birthday, I want to know if he's just to the age he'd rather not be reminded.

[Pagar]

The real Obama legacy is that there will be NO
middle class and that there will be no one working their way into the moneyed class, except those who get their money in big chunks from the fraud associated with such things as global warming.

The Obama health bill will make Cuba look like a rich country in comparison to the US.

[anduril]

a few days ago i linked to an article re how obama had outraged india with his remarks in china. today there's an article about how he also p.o.-ed the japanese (bowing didn't do the trick): Obama bungle produces 'worst U.S.-Japan summit in history'.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Chaco-

His last name is Hart. I used to ride the train with him every day. I work longer hours now, so I don't see him as much. The house was built for his father, as you might imagine.

[Melinda Romanoff]

anduril-

You should know that we now have it on good authority that his trip restored our standing in the world.

Musta been the full length mirror in his suite.

[Janet]

A great article Charlie. Right to the point.

[Melinda Romanoff]

And Chaco-

You been 'lanched again.

[P Zaretzki]

WiLLiam Henry HaRRison ?

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Boris, that's too strong. There's no question that there has been warming since the Little Ice Age. There's very little question that CO2 and CH4 are greenhouse gases, and that human-driven emissions are contribute to the things that make average temp go up, that is, that there is a greenhouse "forcing."

What's unclear is whether there is unusual warming, and whether the greenhouse forcing is really overwhelming and homeostatic counter-forcings (like increased cloud cover, CO2-spurred additional greenery growth, that sort of thing.)

That's not to say there's no misconduct; I think it's increasingly clear there was. For example, there's an email that seems to be saying they are protecting a student from having a real fraud caught out, and another in whih they conspire to have a report re-dated so they can claim it came in under the wire for AR4, but that a McIntyre paper didn't. I seriously think there's a good chance that some tenured people are going to lose their tenured jobs over this.

So I don't think it's fair to say all the global warming stuff is fake.

I'd say it is fair to suggest that until these errors and error-makers are caught and gone, all the AGW science is questionable.

[Melinda Romanoff]

3 sylables in Harrison, at least where I come from...

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Right, Dr Hart. I *think* the lady there was Mrs Hart, so his mom.

[Pagar]

Thomas, I'm going to guess that it is not the Univ of Delaware since they list Joe Biden as their most famous graduate.

[Rocco]

On this day in 1963, JFK was murdered. Who shot JFK? In this gif file, watch the driver of the car Kennedy is riding in...

Go Pats

[boris]

"There's no question that there has been warming since the Little Ice Age."

And how much is caused by CO2?

Science says not much.

How much was natural?

Science says don't know ... some ... maybe most.

Does CO2 drive hypothetical feedback mechanisims to explain climate change?

Science says ... no clue.

So no. What I wrote is not "too strong".

[jimmyk]

Charlie, a minor quibble on your article: You write: "But after a few days, certain things are beginning to become clear.

* The data appears to be largely, perhaps entirely, authentic."

Someone casually skimming the article might think you are talking about the climate/temperature data, as opposed to the e-mail "data." (I won't even get into my preference for "data" treated as plural.)

[rse]

Melinda-

I just reread the question. Why the concern over the # of syllables?

This is a nice distraction from other matters.

Would anyone here with a strong statistics background like to give a pithy response to a school district arguing that the renorming of ITBS in 2005 now means that comparisons with prior year data are invalid?

[Jane]

It's TM's birthday? I hope he wasn't born in '63. Happy Birthday TM - you rock!

Now Arlen Specter saying "the opposition refuses to admit there's a problem with glowbull warming". LOL; no fool like an old fool.

Wasn't that breathtaking Cap'n? Talk about being out of the loop. And Stabenow was a fool and boorish at the exact same time.

[jimmyk]

So I don't think it's fair to say all the global warming stuff is fake.

I'd say it is fair to suggest that until these errors and error-makers are caught and gone, all the AGW science is questionable.

For these clowns to say "the science is settled" is what really bugs me to no end. (I don't know that these specific people have said this specifically, but that's the message they've tried to convey.)

In addition to the transparency issue I've been harping on, there's also the methodological point about quantifying the uncertainty. When you're comparing data that have different degrees of reliability, there's an apples and oranges aspect to it. The degree of uncertainty about the older data has to be quantified, and if it were (accurately), I have little doubt the 95% confidence intervals would not allow any definitive statements about hockey sticks and trends.

[Pofarmer]

Great Healthcare speech by Rogers of Michigan.

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/11/sunday-morning.html

[clarice]

Happy Birthday.TM! Many, many more!

[Thomas Collins]

That's correct, pagar. It's not U. Delaware. Although I suppose that some Biden fans might say he is more famous than any of our Founders! :-))

[SWarren]

Pofarmer,

Where is the Rogers speech. Mike is my Congressman, I worked on his campaigns.

[Melinda Romanoff]

rse-

I am concerned about syllables because it is now obvious I can not read.

[Pofarmer]

Doh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc

[Melinda Romanoff]

Po-

Sorry about yesterday, I ended up being on the phone negotiating a car price for my mother.

For the entire afternoon.

While driving my spouse around shopping.

[Thomas Collins]

Happy Birthday, TM! I hope someone brings you a nice dessert treat from Rein's Deli!

[clarice]

What did they put in your wheaties this morning, TM?

[Charlie (Colorado)]

For these clowns to say "the science is settled" is what really bugs me to no end. (I don't know that these specific people have said this specifically, but that's the message they've tried to convey.)

Jimmy, I think you're just right.

[Pagar]

"Anybody voting for this ignorant scrunt can't be considered a serious person."

With Chavez controlled voting machines and Acorn controlled voter Registration it's a little bit hard to tell exactly how many, but a number of people apparently voted for a person who:
Seemingly, cannot produce an American birth certificate.
Apparently, has no school records, and very few job records.
Seemingly, Has no known associates who are not either terrorists or supporters of terrorist.
Appears to have the worst record of favoring the killing of aborted babies of any political figure alive today.
Appears to have done little positive good for anyone, except his wife, children and his communist friends.
Got to the US Senate, got appointed to head a sub committee on NATO (that's where they said the important war support was supposed to come from) The committee never met. As far as I can find, the Senator never did a single thing to strenghten the defense of the US,
Has a wife who apparently feels that there is nothing to be proud of in the US (that is until her husband got elected).

The list can go on and on.
But he was elected, according to the people who are supposed to decide these things.
It wasn't just the voters in Michigan that weren't serious,IMO.

[SWarren]

Thanks,Po.
Mike is one of the really good guys.

[laura]

Thomas,
William and Mary. That's a long way from Ma.
Sort of in enemy territory.

[Thomas Collins]

That is correct, laura. Jefferson studied there. Yes, it is some distance from Massachusetts. I loved visiting there and walking around the campus. I also loved Williamsburg, which, among other delights, has the world's greatest cheese shop.

[SWarren]

A good read at AT today:

Praising Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven

LUN

[clarice]

Steyn--on when the science gets settled:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mzc1MTkzNDc3NWE0ZDc2NzljOTZjZjU4YTAyYTE3YmE=

[MayBee]

Happy Birthday, TM!!

[Pagar]

Also at American Thinker they report the new upgrade in Cuban health care where a doctor earning $20 a month will now be offering

"Free Penile Upgrades"

Hold it, I read that wrong, It'll be a implant, to his customers who presumably make even less per month than he does. Remember, for those of you interested in the medical system. Cuba has the same medical care system the Democrats are so wild about --
Free Medical Care.

[clarice]

I prefer the Argentinian one free plastic surgery a year per citizen

[narciso]

All right I know Elliot has the list, but he's not the only one.

[Porchlight]

Happy Birthday, TM! Hope it is a good one for you.

[Porchlight]

Lots of fun here - the video of Andrea Mitchell and Sarah Palin in MI:

Video: When Andrea Met Sarah

Tee hee.

[rse]

Melinda-

Just checking. There's a lot to distract anyone paying attention these days.

I love reading your financial links so keep it up.

[hit and run]

Elliott is the list.

Oh,and HotAir http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/22/video-when-andrea-met-sarah/>has the video that includes Andrea Mitchell at the Sara book signing.

[hit and run]

You're fast,Porchlight.

[hit and run]

I Blame The Collapse of Faith In Global Warming.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Via Gateway Pundit:

The Rhode Island Bishop Thomas Tobin has banned Patrick Kennedy from recieving Communion following his attacks on the Catholic Church last month.
Kennedy slammed the church for opposing the democrat’s pro-abortion nationalized health care plan in October.

[sylvia]

I wrote and posted a whole long open thread earlier on Joy Behar doing a birther segment on her new TV show not too long ago. And I see that Typepad ate it. Well maybe just as well. But now I have no interest in typing it all out again.

But to summarize, it was something about Joy trying to make her birther guest look like an idiot, when Joy was the one who looked like she had no knowledge on the subject and how Joy seemed like her world view shaken by that, if only for one second. It was about how that illustrated groupthink. But never mind.

[narciso]

Joy Behar is an idiot, the bigger idiot is the one who was forced into giving her a show on Headline News, blackmail was clearly involved

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

This is going to give a few libtards a headache this morning.

But unlike Reagan, he doesn’t have the acting skills to project concern about what’s happening to people.

Maureen Dowd has left the reservation of Obama slobberers:

"But unlike Reagan, he doesn’t have the acting skills to project concern about what’s happening to people."

[...]

Dither, dither, speech. Foreign trip, bow, reassure. Seminar, summit. Shoot a jump shot with the guys, throw out the first pitch in mom jeans. Compromise, concede, close the deal. Dither, dither, water down, news conference.....

[...]

The animating spirit that electrified his political movement has sputtered out.

[Pagar]

"the bigger idiot is the one who was forced into giving her a show on Headline News, blackmail was clearly involved"

What does that say about someone who would actually watch her show?

[peter]

Happy Birthday, Tom. Thank you for making this forum available. JOM and TM forever!!

[Thomas Collins]

Someone should advise Andrea Mitchell that it is not good for her image to appear to be a crazed groupie trying to break a police line to get a rock star to autograph a magazine for her. Because that's what Mitchell looked like. The best part of it was that Palin was giving Mitchell the look of tolerance that a star gives to a somewhat deranged but not dangerous fan.

[Thomas Collins]

NY Giants look refreshed from the week off. Giants lead 24-14 in the third quarter over Atlanta.

[hit and run]

Will someone report back here if MSNBC runs with a segment that shows the Mitchell-Palin book signing footage,please?

Because with some creative editing,I bet MSNBC could give us Palin with horns and a spiked tail,holding a trident and laughing maniacally,blood dripping from her lips.

And if MSNBC choose not to run a segment using that encounter,that would say a lot.

[clarice]

I agree, TC..Andrea seems chagrined that she had to go to ugh "flyover country", stand around with regular folks and be (OMG) treated no better or worse than they were.

Must seem like a really bad dream.

[Janet]

Sylvia - LUN is the video of Orly Taitz with Joy Behar. You are right about how it is Joy that looks clueless, and seems taken aback by the info presented by Orly. Kinda funny really. Joy resorts to ..well Bush invaded Iraq!

[Captain Hate]

The best part of it was that Palin was giving Mitchell the look of tolerance that a star gives to a somewhat deranged but not dangerous fan.

Andrea had the "OMG, no wonder Alan hasn't touched me in months" look on her face. That and looking batshit crazy.

[Jane]

She did look "batshit crazy" and utterly obsessed. I truly enjoyed the video.

[bad]

Happy Birthday, TM. May you have many more.

[hit and run]

If she were a kos diarist,it would be embarrassing.

But then,a kos diarist might actually have a larger following than a MSNBC correspondent.

[bad]

Andrea Mitchell

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[glasater]

Andrea really did look batshit crazy. Ha!

What a prune face AM is.....

[glasater]

Happy Birthday TM! And thank you for this forum--the best in the blogosphere!

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

What the heck is going on this morning? First Maureen Dowd loses her glow, then Andrea Mitchell acting like a crazed Palin groupie, and now:

Chris Matthews Shocker: Obama Making 'Carteresque' Mistakes

[Porchlight]

Well, Chris "Malaise Speech" Matthews should know...

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Thank you, TM, for hanging in here year after year.

[hit and run]

NY Giants look refreshed from the week off. Giants lead 24-14 in the third quarter over Atlanta.

Posted by: Thomas Collins | November 22, 2009 at 02:54 PM

The Giants tried their best to keep the losing streak alive in the most painful manner possible,but in the end they were less incompetent than the Falcons.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Are there other games today? LOL. Chargers playing Denver.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

And just like that, the CHARGERS score. Love my boys.

[regular poster]

In the field of law I practice, litigation, they train lawyers taking someone's deposition to let the witness know you are the one in control. I love in the interaction between Andrea Mitchell and Sarah Palin, how Sarah is totally in control. I give her credit, she is growing in stature.

[PaulL]

Yeah, it must be killing Dowd to write

Dither, dither, speech. Foreign trip, bow, reassure. Seminar, summit. Shoot a jump shot with the guys, throw out the first pitch in mom jeans. Compromise, concede, close the deal. Dither, dither, water down, news conference.....

[centralcal]

Been out Christmas shopping all day and almost missed the Birthday huzzahs for Mr. Maquire.

Happy Birthday Tom! Thank you to for JOM!

Porchlight and others - I just loved that video of Andrea Mitchell! I thought she looked really deranged in the still photos, but not nearly as deranged as she appeared in the video! Bat-shit crazy is the perfect description of prune face.

[Elliott]

Happy birthday, TM!

[Ann]

Happy Birthday, Tom!

[bad]

Elliott, you total hunk!! (like ALL JOM men, of course)

You're likely to be mobbed by the women folks here about...

[caro]

Happy birthday and many more, TM.

[Janet]

If Andrea and her cohorts view that video they are gonna get even more hate filled. Andrea looked disgusted at being treated so shabbily. The rabidness will only increase.