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December 31, 2009

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glasater

the career fools at State and DoJ who are going to fumble us into another 'bad moment' shortly

My greatest fear Mr Ballard.

I don't believe I will ever be able to persuade my better half into traveling by commercial airline any time soon--not from fear of a terrorist but from the indignities one has to go through just to board the aircraft.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

I'm sure Jamie Gorelick is now proud of the current approach to terrorism, Rick.

The attacks recently in Anbar, and in Afghanistan today, have all the earmarks of coordination with el cojones frito's exploits, doesn't it? Is it just a coincidence that Teh Once is on vacation in Hawaii?

I for one question the timing. If these activities bringing in the New Year do not get this gang's butts in gear, nothing will.

I pray that nothing bad happens tonight among the revelers.

glasater

After Ft Hood the Army deliberately went on to appease Muslims and include more recruitment of them.
That any muslims are in the military chaplaincy is very upsetting.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Sorry for the mixed references. Must.Use.Preview.Feature. Especially when editing on the fly.

Danube of Thought

My God, the good old B4 bag--I'd forgotten all about them. I was issued one about 50 years ago, but regret I no longer know what happened to it. Sorry, Soylent, but the hangers are gone too.

I cannot account for why we are not hearing far more of a stink about the flight 253 guy not being interrogated. Maybe it's the holiday. It's driving me nuts.

Clarice

And not much of a stink about the passenger haskell's report that another (Indian) passenger was arrested after bomb sniffing dogs smelled something in his bag; and that the panty bomber did not show his passport at the gate but got some special treatment at the request of a second Indian man.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Go Huskers, Soylent. Quite a performance last night, huh?

sbw

Soylent, if you can't find a B-4, Boyt has some similar. Our Boyt garment bag is 25 years old and looks new.

Soylent Red

vnjag: Sure was. I was stunned. I was gratified. I was full of red beers and in the bosom of football nirvana. Bodes well for next year.

SBW: I'll look into the Boyt bag and see if the hangers will work with the B4-B.

cathyf
not from fear of a terrorist but from the indignities one has to go through just to board the aircraft.
I haven't seen any comment about this -- ok, is it possible to put this delicately? -- from the pictures of the underbomber's device it looks to me like they set it up so that if security searched him closely they would perceive the bomb as an erection, with the idea that this would bring the search to a quick halt with great embarrassment to the searcher.

After the shoe bomber the thought was "if they had searched his shoe, they would have caught him." But it looks to me like even if security had searched the undiebomber very closely there is a very good chance that he would have gotten through.

(Also, imagine that during the flight the bomber had gone to the lavatory and taken off the underwear and moved it to a pocket in loose-fitting clothes. Then he injects the detonator into the bomb and stuffs it between the armrest and the bulkhead. Imagine how much harder it would have been to put out the fire if it was not still attached to a person who could be bodily hauled out of his seat?)

susanne


cathyf,

::shiver::

Yeah, I think they are testing. And I imagine they will get better as they assess what happened.

So this one didn't go...bad detonator, the Nigerian was a doofus and did not set it off correctly, no one expected the Flying Dutchman, whatever...next time I don't think we'll be so lucky.

So here's what is making me jookey - they can get a bomb on a plane, but no one in our government is treating this as an ongoing threat. If another terrorist shows up on another plane with another bomb, they'll just charge him with the appropriate felony (and give him an attorney, trial, here we go). And we will just trust to the fates that no innocents die. And if a planeload of people go down - add a first degree murder charge! Rinse, repeat.

I don't know, I'll sing kumbaya if it will help, but I don't think the terrorists will sing with me. Does anyone think our President will get a clue soon? And if not, do we all just stay off planes and keep our fingers crossed?

Clarice

All true, cathy f.. And then there's no particular reason to stick to planes. Train and bus passengers aren't searvhed or mall visitors etc. At some point even these dummies need to concentrate on people, not objects.

centralcal

cathyf - bingo about the shape and placement of the bomb. After thinking about that for awhile and seeing that picture on Drudge of the full body scan image, I also thought of how many Mexican "drug mules" have been caught with the goods stuffed into body cavities.

I agree with Clarice, we need to focus on people. Profile away, I say.

cathyf

Actually, I think that the key is that at some point we have to engage the ideas of the islamofacists. But that would require that our left wing acknowledge that our enemies are real people, with serious ideas, and that they take their ideas seriously.

Clarice

Well, ideas don't help with screening. I'm thinking short term, of course.

Rick Ballard

Screening is a prophylactic measure being applied without any identification of the nature of the disease it is supposed to prevent. We know the name of the disease - radical islam ('radical' per its root meaning) but we persist in the pretense that non-muslims are potential 'carriers' due to idiotic RoP blather. Our current screening makes as much sense as giving all pre-teen boys mammograms.

I side with cathyf - name the disease, identify the contaminated 'pool' in which it breeds and practice prophylaxis on the basis of reality. It's a serious disease and carriers need to be isolated.

Clarice

Rick:"Our current screening makes as much sense as giving all pre-teen boys mammograms."
I have first Dibbs on stealing this.

We are having a semantical game here..cathy says we have to engage the ideas of the jihadis..true in a longer term sense, I say, but in the short term go for the jihadis themselves.B&B Book and Bomb is the name I'd dub my strategy.

Jack is Back!

Soylent,

Sorry to be late with this but you may want to enroll in the Air Force Academy.

The just bought 1500 of them.

Clarice

Soylent--this company makes those bags. Maybe they can sell you extra hangers.
http://www.dowcover.com/dcciproducttravel.htm

Soylent Red

Sorry to be late with this but you may want to enroll in the Air Force Academy.

Uh...no. Proud 90-day wonder here. Besides, Clarice has already hooked me up...

this company makes those bags. Maybe they can sell you extra hangers.

Thanks Clarice for saving me from having to go to the USAFA for a few hangers.

Clarice

You are welcome. Hope it works.

A.C. McCloud

Yeah, I think they are testing. And I imagine they will get better as they assess what happened.

Thing about it is, had the bomb exploded as planned we still might not know it was a terrorist attack at this point. Authorities--the same one who are dicking around with Haskell after calling it a firecracker initially--would go the extra mile not to speculate, considering weather and mechanical problems, etc. The NTSB would have to meticulously pore through the CVR and FDR.

Due to Mutallab's failure, if a plane suddenly falls out of the sky everyone will automatically assume it's terrorism even if it isn't. Sounds like a win for AQ either way.

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