I am scarcely a Bernie Madoff fan but 71 year olds have a hard time bouncing back from this kind of beating:
Sources told ABC11 the disgraced financier was treated at Duke hospital in Durham last Friday and discharged earlier this week.
He is serving a life sentence at the federal prison in Butner.
According to sources, he had facial fractures, broken ribs and a collapsed lung.
Prison officials won't confirm that. They say the 71-year-old is in the medical clinic at the prison in Butner.
Butner is a low and medium security complex described here as the "crown jewel" of the Federal prison system.
This would spark an international outcry if Madoff were a Gitmo detainee.
LATE UPDATE: Now the report is that he fell out of bed. Yeah, right - the bed he was sharing with Elin Nordegren, maybe. Now Madoff is being treated for high blood pressure and dizziness.
Just to provide a glimpse of my convoluted paranoid mind - I imagine the parties (which include Madoff's attorney) would say this if it were true. But I can also imagine they might say this if Madoff had been beaten and had agreed to help hush it up in exchange for a medically related discharge.
Yes, it would. I am always outraged by those who voice interest in "bubba" taking care of someone in jail. People should bnot be subject to rape and beating and sadistic attacks on top of their sentence.
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 11:57 AM
This is going to make Dick Durbin cry.
Posted by: MayBee | December 24, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Clarice, would you object to putting members of Congress in there?
Posted by: PD | December 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM
"People should not be subject to rape and beating and sadistic attacks on top of their sentence."
Obviously you nevered watched HBO's hilariious family comedy series "Oz".
Posted by: Adebisi's Little Hat | December 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM
"never" not "nevered". I was too busy fixing the "bnot" to focus on my own work.
Posted by: Adebisi's Little Hat | December 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM
I couldn't bear to watch Oz--it was so horrible.
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Whatever Bernard Madoff got from his financial scam is just a drop in the bucket
compared to what the AGW parasites like Al Gore are collecting. My guess is that if the Healthcare fraud racket the fraudsters sat up this morning is allowed to run as long as the Madoff scam that hundreds of trillions will have been stolen from US taxpayers. A high enough number probably does not existed for how much they can steal thru the AGW fraud.
I'd be willing to bet there is no chance that a terrorist at Gitmo would have suffered these types of injuries.
Posted by: pagar | December 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Whatever Bernard Madoff got from his financial scam is just a drop in the bucket
compared to what the AGW parasites like Al Gore are collecting.
I couldn't agree more.
Posted by: Jane | December 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM
PD
To that I would respond that Will Rogers once famously said:
"There ought to be one day-just one-when there is open season on senators."
The feeling is quite relevant today of all days.
Posted by: Gmax | December 24, 2009 at 01:09 PM
The story's apparently false.
From the NY Post:
"Bernie Madoff's lawyer, Ira Sorkin, says his client was hospitalized due to dizziness and high blood pressure.
The Bureau of Prisons said Thursday that the 71-year-old disgraced financier remains under medical care for the seventh day.
Prison officials have declined to reveal why he was transferred from a North Carolina federal prison to Duke University Medical Center (DUMC). But bureau spokeswoman Traci Billingsley did say there have been no assaults at the prison in the past week.
Sorkin told the Associated Press that Madoff “had some dizzy spells and some high blood pressure.”
LUN
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 01:27 PM
there are 60 Billion reasons for a beat down on that bastard. But for TARP I/TARP II, it is the greatest theft in all history.
Posted by: matt | December 24, 2009 at 01:27 PM
Um, 50 billion dollars only a drop in a bucket?
Posted by: Alessandro Machi | December 24, 2009 at 01:38 PM
If he is in Duke Medical Center, does that mean he was raped and the duke LAX team should all be rearrested?
Posted by: The dude | December 24, 2009 at 02:30 PM
If I had to choose between WTVD and the federal prison people, I think i'd trust WTVD.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | December 24, 2009 at 02:33 PM
AGW is DEAD. The lefty Alexander COkburn agrees--the whole thing is a farce.
LUN
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 02:47 PM
Cockburn saying it's a farce might cause me to think otherwise--if it were anything other than completely obvious. Suddenly the emperor has no clothes.
Posted by: jimmyk | December 24, 2009 at 02:56 PM
Well, he does quote the paper that DrJ laughed at, so we could just consider it a blind commie pig finding an acorn. I'll consider the hoax totally over when Jones, Mann, Wigley and Hansen are all standing in unemployment lines. Until then, Fenton Communications will keep lefty dopes hoping.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 24, 2009 at 03:14 PM
OT - Re: Jimmy Carter's open letter of apology to Jewish community.
From Breitbart:
The letter comes weeks after his grandson, Jason Carter, said he would run for a Georgia state Senate seat being vacated by President Barack Obama's nominee to be U.S. ambassador to Singapore. If David Adelman is confirmed as ambassador in January, Jason Carter will be a candidate in a March special election in the northeast Atlanta district.
Jason Carter, who is running in a district with a vocal Jewish population, said in a statement that his grandfather's letter was unrelated to his campaign and hailed the apology as a "great step towards reconciliation."
Take note. It's good to be vocal.
Posted by: Frau Schande | December 24, 2009 at 03:21 PM
Speaking of crooks:
NEW YORK (AP) - The two chief executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could get paid as much as $6 million for 2009, despite the companies' dismal performances this year which cost taxpayers more than $100 billion.
Fannie's CEO, Michael Williams, and Freddie CEO Charles "Ed" Haldeman Jr. each will receive $900,000 in salary, $3.1 million in deferred payments next year and another $2 million if they meet certain performance goals, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Thursday.
The pay packages were approved by the Treasury Department and the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which regulates Fannie and Freddie.
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 03:28 PM
On that Carter letter: It was the usual weasely non-apology apology:
In other words: "I apologize if I offended you. I'm not going to retract anything specific that I said, or criticize my beloved Palestinians."
Posted by: jimmyk | December 24, 2009 at 03:50 PM
Except for Bernie Kerik, it seems that prison officials have contact with people higher up their food chain. And, they just got "protected." Dizzy? And, his lawyer speaks to the press? What gives you any idea that Madoff's interests are met by his attorney, here?
Shake hands with justice. One way. Or the other. Of course, the whole CO2 fraud was cooked up by Ken Lay. And, he had to kill himself to protect his fortune for his estate.
You want the truth? Learn to connect the dots. Our prison system stinks. But it's better than having a schizophrenic family member, since Reagan closed all the hospitals. Can't do that with prisons, though.
Posted by: Carol Herman | December 24, 2009 at 03:55 PM
"Our prison system stinks."
I would gladly take a few broken ribs in exchange for decades of degenerate spending sprees.
What scares y'all is the declining life-style of our Country Club facilities for white-collar criminals.
After all, for most whites, being anti-crime means jailing all the street criminals to make them safe for business criminals
Posted by: Semanticleo | December 24, 2009 at 04:13 PM
The JIB household wishes all the JOM militia a Happy Christmas and New Year.
Tomorrow, in the tradition of the JIB family, we will have a proper joint (no guffaws, that is a standing rib roast) for dinner with Yorkshire pudding. We will then follow it up with a proper Christmas pudding and brandy butter. Then on the 26th we will celebrate Boxing Day with a full open house of good cheer. Its our favorite time of the year.
Back to Bernie: I agree with Clarice. Justice has been served and the idea that you are not safe in prison is absurd though real at times. I also agree that Al Gore in his new stuffed, corpulent, slicked back style looks more a gangsta than 50cents. His hip-hop is AGW and the jingle you hear is the coin he is taking to the bank.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | December 24, 2009 at 04:19 PM
"..stuffed, corpulent, slicked back style..."
JiB: you forgot those puffy, vacantly insane eyes of his, too.
Posted by: centralcal | December 24, 2009 at 04:21 PM
I don't know...collapsed lung, as in punctured with a shank? He's already been in a fight so he's trying to be a tough guy and live among the general population. I think someone would kill him for a few cigarettes.
Posted by: Rocco | December 24, 2009 at 04:44 PM
he does quote the paper that DrJ laughed at
... and didn't understand it either.
Cockburn, not DrJ.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | December 24, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Rocco, punctured lungs are pretty common with broken ribs, especially with old folks who tend to be brittle. Butner isn't your usual general population prison — its for people who aren't violent and who usually are physically frail — you'd be more likely to see a wheelchair than a shank. I had a classmate at DUMC who had been a PA there.
Frankly, if Madoff did get beaten up, i'd put money on it having been a guard.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | December 24, 2009 at 04:50 PM
I have to admit I know nothing of Butner. I'm sure there are some secure institutions . I remember an incident where the place I worked, housed in our protective custody unit, an inmate from Walpole who witnessed two cons decapitate another with a mop wringer for a pain killer. Just the "screw" in me I guess!
Posted by: Rocco | December 24, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Merry Christmas to all the very merry JOMers. I am leaving soon for my daughter's house (and baby watch). You are all true patriots, wonderful mobsters, and I would be honored to share an island with you when the time comes.
anduril (the nice one, not the jerk), Ann, bad, Buford, Capt. Hate, Chaco, Clarice, daddy, DoT, DrJ, Elliott (with 2 t's), Extraneus, Frau (insert anything afterward), glasater, Gmax, Hit and Run, Ignatz, Jack is Back, Jane, janet, jimmyk, JMH, kim (wherever you are), MayBee, Narciso, Old Lurker, pagar, pete, PeterUK (our shining JOM star), PD, Rick Ballard, Rocco, Sara, Soylent, strawman, verner, and last but not at all least - Tom Maguire . . .
May your days be merry and bright!!
p.s. - if I left out your name, please forgive me and remember my advanced age! Memory is not what it used to be (that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!)
Love to all. Hope to be back for either late nightcaps or early morning Mimosas.
Posted by: centralcal | December 24, 2009 at 05:12 PM
After all, for most whites, being anti-crime means jailing all the street criminals to make them safe for business criminals
Haven't found the "on" switch for your brain yet, I see.
Posted by: PD | December 24, 2009 at 05:12 PM
Hey Rick and others.
FYI, wattsup and icecap.us both have some pretty good stories up. And, to boot, American thinking has one heck of an article on how the "Team" stonewalled papers and got their own preemptively run up the flagpole.
They knew they had problems. They didn't care, they were pushing a political agenda, not science.
Posted by: Pofarmer | December 24, 2009 at 05:12 PM
The bar will be open,cc.
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 05:13 PM
What cc said...Merry Christmas all, Good Night
Posted by: Rocco | December 24, 2009 at 05:15 PM
Thanks, cc, same to you and all the other true JOMers.
Posted by: jimmyk | December 24, 2009 at 05:15 PM
oh, and Sue - special Merry Christmas to you (just in case you want to be generous, this being the "season" and all, and give up those questionable dibs on Cheney.)
Posted by: centralcal | December 24, 2009 at 05:16 PM
OT, but the WaPo published an article on a strike against an "Al Quaeda meeting" in Yemen that killed at least 30. It is mainly attributed to the yemenis with a hazy involvement of the US, except it sure sounds like a cruise missile strike or precision air strike.
The attack was focused on the home of the imam who "counseled" Major Nidal Hasan, the Ft. Hood terrorist. They don't know if they got the little rat, though.....
Nope, no connection at all between Hasan and al Quaeda...nothing to see here...move along.....
Posted by: matt | December 24, 2009 at 05:17 PM
And for more on Hasan's counselor:
Move along, nothing to see here.
Posted by: PD | December 24, 2009 at 05:25 PM
I would gladly take a few broken ribs in exchange for decades of degenerate spending sprees.
Cleo, I'll take you up on that offer! Since we're already into your "decades of degenerate spending sprees," courtesy of your proxies Barack, Harry, and Nancy, when will you present yourself to have a few of your ribs broken?
Posted by: Murgatroyd | December 24, 2009 at 05:30 PM
Thank you CC!! Blessings on the "baby" watch and at such an appropriate time:)
Posted by: glasater | December 24, 2009 at 05:32 PM
before, I dash out the door, please insert matt, Porchlight, Pofarmer . . . Merry Christmas.
::jeez, the memory is much worse than I suspected, darn it!::
Posted by: centralcal | December 24, 2009 at 05:34 PM
May I cathyf to your list, cc?
Posted by: Extraneus | December 24, 2009 at 05:41 PM
Any word on what the religious guidance was, PD?
Posted by: Extraneus | December 24, 2009 at 05:43 PM
centralcal; right back at you. the relatives arrive any second. Merry Christmas to all.
Posted by: peter | December 24, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Same to you, peter.
Posted by: Extraneus | December 24, 2009 at 06:04 PM
Merry Christmas to all!
Going out to play in the rain.
Ugh.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | December 24, 2009 at 07:17 PM
Merry christmas, all, even anduril but not semantic
Posted by: narciso | December 24, 2009 at 07:36 PM
Cockburn is an incurable lefty, but he has been a confirmed skeptic on global warming
Posted by: narciso | December 24, 2009 at 08:08 PM
She's baaack........
Posted by: Uncle BigBad | December 24, 2009 at 08:23 PM
Merry Christmas and a Happy Chanukah to all JOMers And may 2010 be the best year yet.
CC, I have a grandchild watch this week too. My first granddaughter, MacKenzie Rhoads Lowrey is due this week. Number two grand daughter due in April. That's the thing with five daughters; from no grandchildren to many very quickly.
I really hope this gang of critters in the current Congress get it in the ear in 2010 for all of the devious tactics they employed to accomplish their self described magnum opus. I wonder how many Reagan Dems now have buyers remorse about The Once and his merry elves, Nancy, Harry and the loathsome Chris Dodd. May their days be crappy and dark. And may all their future Christmases be a dark shade of brown.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | December 24, 2009 at 08:24 PM
Hi Jim. Merry Christmas.
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 24, 2009 at 08:33 PM
merry christmas
Posted by: anduril | December 24, 2009 at 09:03 PM
Merry Christmas, Anduril
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 24, 2009 at 09:43 PM
JimR,
I've got 10 in the house at the moment. You're welcome to any of the 16-18 of 'em that have dashed past in the last 30 seconds or so. Just for the balance of the evening though.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 24, 2009 at 09:56 PM
MacKenzie Rhoads Lowrey
What a beautiful name.
Posted by: Jane | December 24, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Isn't it though,Jane. Oh, grandchildren are the best!
Posted by: Clarice | December 24, 2009 at 10:40 PM
It is peaceful here tonight, Rick. Tomorrow, not so much.
Thanks Jane and Clarice. Her mom and dad picked it out.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | December 24, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I love the tradition of using last names as middle names. Lovely, Jim Rhoads!
WooHoo... more JOMers in the new year. Congratulations, cc, Jim Rhoads and Porchlight. They are already blessed with good families.
Posted by: Ann | December 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Is the prison system so wicked that if Bernie didn't "cop a fell out of bed story" he'd have been sent to a maximum security prison, instead?
Nothing computes. He did NOT fall out of bed! But his own lawyer! Come on, guys. There are state exams you have to take to qualify before you can practice. Bamboozling the public with an outright lie, just because the prison system's got connections? Do they also carry signs made at FBI headquarters that say "move along folks. Nothing to see here."
As to Madoff, people chased him to give him money! Nobody forced them to do this but their own greed! His failure? Just like socialism. He ran out of other people's money.
Posted by: Carol Herman | December 25, 2009 at 02:34 AM
Posted by: cathyf | December 25, 2009 at 04:39 PM