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December 08, 2009

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roux

HIPPA laws about patient privacy are pretty serious violations. All hospitals have policies for violations of patient policies and most include immediate termination. Hospital employees better be careful what they say.

peter

Wilt Chamberlain! Ha, Tom, you are too funny. BB King, maybe.

More comedy at LUN

Jane

Mr Left called to say "Tiger is into spanking and hair pulling".

I wonder if that was a hint.

matt

has anyone else noticed how skeezy all of these mistresses seem to be? If nothing else, I would expect the man to have some taste.....

Jimbo

Interesting take on this in Deadspin -
I wonder how much flop-sweat there is out there in the high-roller world...

LUN

Dave (in MA)


peter,

Per your "More comedy at LUN", see what I just ran across (currently the 2nd review).

Captain Hate

has anyone else noticed how skeezy all of these mistresses seem to be? If nothing else, I would expect the man to have some taste.

I assume any high profile smokin' hot ones would be staying quiet. But yes, his taste in B-list skeezers is Clintonesque.

Jane

Matt,

The skeezy thing tells me it was about sex not image or love or anything else. Falling in love could be dangerous and risk everything - WE see how that worked out.

Jane

Capn' Ed dismantles Eugene Robinson.

Which reminds me that I miss Capn' Hate. I hope his job is going well.

Captain Hate

My job went well in that I solved their problem in 5 hours, stuck around for another 3 and a half days to make sure nothing else similar would go wrong and got paid for the entire week. Now I'm back to funemployment.

Jane

WEll the good thing is that you are back here and that I can conjure people up in exactly 15 minutes.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I heard this morning when it broke on Fox and Friends and Imus. It makes no sense. Advance life support means essentially dead, being kept alive by a machine. What hospital releases you an hour later?

Well, the news today says she was admitted and is a patient at the hospital, brought in with severe abdominal problems.

Also, all day yesterday it was reported that Elin moved out. Yet her mother stayed there? And when the ambulance left it was followed by Elin out of the house she supposedly moved out of yesterday morning.

All these women in four years of which 8 mo. of that he was off the tour and recovering from knee surgery? What is it 12 women now? Me thinks maybe a couple of them are true and the rest are out for their own 15 minutes and $50,000.

I'm not excusing Tiger, but I think this story has degenerated into fantasy land.

Buford Gooch

"WEll the good thing is that you are back here and that I can conjure people up in exactly 15 minutes."

Jane, can you please conjure up Kim?

Jane

I can try Buford - Kim we miss you!

Sara - I suspect Elin's mother was there taking care of the kids while Elin moved out. It's impossible to move with 2 small children.

I however, do not doubt the # of women.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Sorry to change the subject, but this is just ... a gag.

It Has Begun… School Supplies Now Distributed With Obama Logo

Missouri parents were upset to see “Change We Can Believe In” notebooks and pencils distributed at the elementary schools.
change missouri
Sara (Pal2Pal)

But Jane, Elin's mother had just flown in from Sweden. Tiger's mother and all kinds of nannies, house help, etc, were there to "take care of the kids." I just think rumors are being advanced as fact at this point. Why was Elin there at 2:36 AM if she had moved out.

Why would they say the mother had been released when she was actually admitted? And why are the last half dozen stories so pat, almost like they were all reading from an identical script? There is just something suspicious.

It is hard to remember, but I seem to recall Elin with him at almost every tournament cheering him on from the gallery. Was he screwing around on her while she was with him too?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

The news conference right now is saying that Elin's mother has been released now and is resting comfortably at Tiger's home.

Jane

I dunno Sara, and for the most part I don't care. I hate all these gossip stories and hate them more when they involve someone I had great regard for.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I'm with you Jane.

Frau Märchenland

All of this is to distract Tea Party Mobsters from noticing that the country is being destroyed in double time. Tiger's sleazettes were hired by Code Pink, known in the UK as the "Ugli" fruitcakes, to create chaos outside the political sphere. Rahm Emanuel planned it all. Look away.

(Good going, clarice, in American Thinker)

MayBee

It is hard to remember, but I seem to recall Elin with him at almost every tournament cheering him on from the gallery. Was he screwing around on her while she was with him too?

Apparently so.
People are very creative when it comes to cheating. Say you have a meeting, a dinner appearance, a practice, a friend you want to see...

Neo

Gatorade Discontinues Tiger Line

clarice

Thanks, Frau..

DoT!! Welcome back!

Sue

The advanced life support her mother was on was an iv. She probably has the stomach flu and dehydrated. Some fool reporter at the hospital said that when anyone comes in with an iv they are considered on life support. ::rolls eyes::

I don't think these women are lying. And neither does his wife, it would seem.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

They said at this morning's press conference that they all went out to dinner last night and they think she suffered food poisoning.

Frau Märchenland

OT - I hope Pres. Hugo's Pal does not ruin the Colombian Miracle.
LUN

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Sue/Maybee: I'm not saying I don't believe there were extramarital dalliances, it just seems the last few have stories that are almost word for word identical, like reading from a script.

I remember thinking a couple years back that there must be a crack in the marriage when I read that Elin took their first baby to Sweden to be baptized on the same weekend that Tiger had a year long pre-commitment to appear at a huge charity tournament in Los Angles. When you are married to someone whose life is dictated by appearance contracts, this seems like a major scheduling screwup.

jean

Don't you bet the Pro Golfers are dreading Christmas parties this year.Everyone is going to bombard them with questions about Tiger and life on the tour

Sara (Pal2Pal)

A record-breaking President:

President Obama's job approval rating has fallen to 47 percent in the latest Gallup poll, the lowest ever recorded for any president at this point in his term.

Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford and even Richard Nixon all had higher approval ratings 10-and-a-half months into their presidencies. Obama's immediate predecessor, President George W. Bush, had an approval rating of 86 percent, or 39 points higher than Obama at this stage.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said he doesn't "put a lot of stock" in the survey by Gallup, which has conducted presidential approval polls since 1938, longer than any other organization.

"If I was a heart patient and Gallup was my EKG, I'd visit my doctor," Gibbs said in response to questions from Fox. "I'm sure a six-year-old with a Crayon could do something not unlike that. I don't put a lot of stake in, never have, in the EKG that is daily Gallup trend. I don't pay a lot of attention to the meaninglessness of it."

Dave (in MA)
The advanced life support her mother was on was an iv. She probably has the stomach flu and dehydrated.
She probably could have benefited from some Gatorade. D'oh!
clarice

Frau, I'd put my money on Uribe.

Sue

Dave,

Heh!

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Results so far of Right Wing News poll:

If the 2012 Republican primary were today, which of these candidates would you vote for? Sarah Palin 45% (202 votes) Dick Cheney 8% (39 votes) Bobby Jindal 8% (37 votes) Mitt Romney 8% (37 votes) Rick Santorum 4% (20 votes) Ron Paul 4% (19 votes) Tim Pawlenty 4% (18 votes) Newt Gingrich 3% (17 votes) Rudy Guiliani 2% (12 votes) Jeb Bush 2% (11 votes) Haley Barbour 2% (10 votes) Mike Huckabee 2% (9 votes) Mike Pence 1% (8 votes) John Thune 1% (5 votes)

Have you voted yet?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

My advice to all you mid-Westerners and East Coasters, stock up. We had THE WORST storm here yesterday that I've ever seen since living in California and it is headed your way. Be prepared.

glasater

Overnight temps were 10 degrees here in the NW so that frigid air is adding to Sara's (P2P) cautionary words.

Sue

it just seems the last few have stories that are almost word for word identical, like reading from a script.

I think that is because he has developed a pattern.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Well Sue, you may be right, it is definitely someone's pattern. Anything I say sounds like I'm defending Tiger, which I'm not. I just find that some of this story has too many questions surrounding it for me to feel comfortable. I may be entirely wrong.

glasater

All prime time ads have been pulled for the Tiger....

clarice

Right,glasater--Bloomberg:
New York - Marketers have pulled all Tiger Woods advertisements from prime-time television broadcast networks and 19 cable channels following reported extramarital affairs, according to data from Nielsen Co. The last prime-time ad featuring the 33-year-old golfer was a 30-second Gillette Co. spot that ran on Nov. 29, according to New York-based Nielsen. Woods was also absent from commercials on a number of weekend sports programs, including NFL games, Nielsen said.

Janet

So do we as a society care about extramarital affairs now? Is sex outside of marriage wrong or something? Tiger can't sell Gatorade, but it is okay for Kevin Jennings to be our Safe Schools Czar?

Almost every tv show, movie, and advertisement...our music, our magazines...the books marketed to our teens...it all celebrates sex, sex, sex. No boundaries, anything goes. Porn is great. Don't let the prudes hamper your style...sexual freedom baby!

But Tiger is unfit to sell Gatorade. I just do not get the left.

centralcal

I agree somewhat with Sara, in that some of the reportage has been the breathlessly gossipy, speculative kind and then has to be reformed to actually fit the facts.

The plain fact is that Tiger is under the media/tabloid spotlight now - truths, half-truths, and just made up sh*t will be the order of the day as long as it sells or attracts viewers.

This is in no way a defense of Tiger Woods - he got himself into this trouble. However, my opinion of most of the media is still worse than my opinion of him, however low that opinion might get.

centralcal

Janet: Kevin Jennings is one sick, twisted, perverted individual regardless of his sexual orientation. Exactly the sort one expects to find in an Obama administration, along with the other thugs and miscreants.

clarice

Janet. that's a great point. I'll blog it.

anduril

The other day--in my Nazi-ish (Nazi-like?) way--I linked to Steve Sailer's interesting blog re the Black blogospheric reaction to their discovery that Tiger Woods is a racist dog. But if to discuss quite frankly the fact that Tiger only, um, gets led astray by WHITE WOMEN inevitably gets one branded as a Nazi (at least on this forum), then what's the politically correct way to go about this?

Well, Eugene Robinson has shown me how. After some amusing animadversions regarding Tiger's misguided method of selecting extra-marital companionship:

I'm not going to pronounce judgment on Woods's moral fiber, except to state that adultery is bad. I'm also not going to judge the women who have reportedly had affairs with him, except to point out how quick they've been, as soon as their names have surfaced, to retain high-priced legal counsel. I will suggest that Woods consider this possibility: Random women he meets in restaurants or bars may not be reduced to putty by his good looks or sparkling wit, but may in fact be aware of how wealthy he is.

I was going to critique Woods's technique of adultery, or at least his apparent selection of playmates, as measured against a theory about philandering developed by my colleague Roxanne Roberts, who has spent years covering the capital's libidinous social scene for The Post. Roberts postulates that famous, powerful men who stray would be smart to choose women who have just as much to lose if the liaison were exposed. Some ultra-rich tycoon's young trophy wife, say, would fit that criterion. Cocktail waitresses and nightclub hostesses, not so much.

In fact, Woods seems to have hooked up with the kind of women who save old voice mails and text messages -- giving their high-priced legal counsel something to work with.

he gets to what's really on his mind--WHITE WOMEN:

Here's my real question, though: What's with the whole Barbie thing?

No offense to anyone who actually looks like Barbie, but it really is striking how much the women who've been linked to Woods resemble one another. I'm talking about the long hair, the specific body type, even the facial features. Mattel could sue for trademark infringement.

This may be the most interesting aspect of the whole Tiger Woods story -- and one of the most disappointing. He seems to have been bent on proving to himself that he could have any woman he wanted. But from the evidence, his aim wasn't variety but some kind of validation.

I'm making a big assumption here that the attraction for Woods was mostly physical, but there's no evidence thus far that he had a lot of time for deep conversation. If adultery is really about the power and satisfaction of conquest, Woods's self-esteem was apparently only boosted by bedding the kind of woman he thought other men lusted after -- the "Playmate of the Month" type that Hugh Hefner turned into the American gold standard.

But the world is full of beautiful women of all colors, shapes and sizes -- some with short hair or almond eyes, some with broad noses, some with yellow or brown skin. Woods appears to have bought into an "official" standard of beauty that is so conventional as to be almost oppressive.

Neat, eh? He did it without once mentioning the word WHITE. Note, too, that my reference to Nazi's doesn't allow anyone to invoke Godwin's Law, since I draw no comparisons to anyone, invidious or otherwise--except myself, of course.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I don't recall ever seeing a Tiger Woods TV commercial. I've seen print ads, but not TV. I watch a lot of sports, but admit that the only time I ever watch golf is when Tiger is playing, otherwise I'd rather watch wet toilet paper dry. Booooooooring.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

A Player's Heart in a Tiger's Hide -- By: Mike Potemra

If they’re really going to try to make the Tiger Woods peccadilloes an issue of race, I say let’s raise the silliness ante and make it an issue of class. I hereby speculate that the public exposure of his misbehavior is a ploy by powerful WASPs in the PGA to avert Tiger’s impending attempt to buy the game of golf. (“B-b-b-buy Bushwood?!”)
Fritz

This story made me like Tiger much less - your typical cold heartless sleaze bag. It puts him on par with the media.

LUN

daddy

OT,

And haven't read anything yet, but here at the coffee shop a fun old Grandmomma sort sat down and looked over my shoulder at me looking at the Tiger Post. This got her going, and she started chatting to me and then one of the good looking barissta gal's behind the counter walked up with her cup, and happened to be wearing a low slung necklace between her ample cleavage. Granny turns to me and say's "You know why girl's wear their necklaces hanging down there?"

"No Mamm," "sez I. "Why?"

She grabs her "hooter's" and say's "It's because these are the only 2 sucker's a gal trusts."

Then she did one about the rear ends of pro football players, but I was laughing too hard from the "sucker's" to get it all. Very funny.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Fritz: That is a sleazy story, on both sides. Mindy knew he was married, knew Elin, and yet she couldn't wait to meet Tiger? Ugh! Women sure make it easy for men to be pigs.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Following the above article is a smaller article with the speculation that Tiger left Orlando right after the accident and has been holed up in New York ever since.

Fritz

Sara

Sleazy men, sleazy women, sleazy journalists, sleazy businessmen - very saddening. It sounds like Tiger has been a tiger after the women for a long long time. I'm sure Elin knew this and like other other women (Hilary, Spitzer's wife, etc) she was willing to live with this in exchange for the benefits. She even comes across as sleazy.

The whole Tiger Image is one big charade and we've all been duped. Next we'll find out Sullivan is right about Palin!

daddy

John Edward's must be kicking himself for not announcing over the last couple days that he's the kid's father. Man, can he miss an opportunity or what.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Fritz: I don't feel "duped" in the sense that I never cared about his "image," only about watching a master at work as the best golfer in the world. I couldn't care a whit about his private life unless it has an effect on his game or that so much scandal and controversy would cause him to walk away from the game altogether.

Jane

I tell ya, the only good part of this story is something I relish - the golf magazine cover for December with Obama and Tiger as his caddy - titled - 10 things Tiger can teach Obama.

I might even buy it. Nawwww

daddy

Jane,

I think it's now up to "11 things Tiger can teach Obama", but expect it'll go higher as the day proceeds.

narciso

No, Fritz that's not going to happen, until there are snow flurries in hell

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Last night during the Ed Sullivan retrospect I was watching, they mentioned that the Beatles appearance garnered 73 million viewers. That was in 1964. Makes the viewers for the Obama inauguration pale in comparison. Does anyone else find this viewership astounding considering the difference in communication back then compared to today?

Captain Hate

Interesting take on this in Deadspin

Deadspin is the shizz on sleazeball stories like this, so I expect the hookers that were his bang toys were some smokin' primo trim. Now there's a rumor that nude pictures of Eldrick are being shopped to Playgirl. The trailer park girl from Perkins said that Tiger never put a head cover on his driver when he let out the shaft so next up might be an unknown offspring; although I wouldn't blame Elin for braining him with a club for dipping unprotectedly into some of those STD petri dishes. That might be the dumbest part of this whole sordid tale and that's saying something.

You know it's pretty bad when Spitzer and Letterman can tell their wives it could've been worse....

Captain Hate

expect == suspect

clarice

Janet, that blog'll be up tomorrow.

I don't know why I came to this thread. I am feeling sorry for both Tiger and his wife at this point.I never bought the public image and I don't give a carp about anyone else's sex life.

See you all elsewhere.

centralcal

I feel sorry for Tiger, Elin and the kids too, Clarice.

This is tabloid land unfortunately.

Captain Hate

I'm not sure I feel comfortable being around so many non-judgemental people. Feel sorry for Tiger? No that's not happening. There are a lot of people that have problems caused by circumstances well out of their control that are more deserving of sympathy than somebody who hits a ball, had the world by the ass and then burned it down.

And quit blaming the tabloids!! We had a good laugh at Silky Pony when his idiocy was uncovered by the National Enquirer; the difference being we didn't like him.

MayBee

I'm not sure I feel comfortable being around so many non-judgemental people....We had a good laugh at Silky Pony when his idiocy was uncovered by the National Enquirer

Thank you, Captain Hate, I'm with you.

Melinda Romanoff

Sorry, no sympathy here. Stick your wick in the wrong lamp, you're going to get burned.

I believe it's called integrity.

clarice

It's not that I'm non-judgemental. It's just that this is a young family with kids and this is so sordid. It's like taking joy at their pain.

The Edwards somehow struck me differently--as far more calculating liars (both of them).

centralcal

okay, fair enough. But, seriously . . . Tiger Woods and his sexual pecadiloes (for wont of better terms) really doesn't impact my little life.

Harry Reid does. Nancy Pelosi does. Barack Obama does.

I am just feeling stress over where my country is going - as in circling the drain. I am much more upset of the Hag Skags (Collins and Snowe) than I will ever be over the Woods pecker.

clarice

Also, I think Tiger has shown exceptional talent in his area and his career while not ruined is certainly tarnished for all time. That, too, is sad. If he's got to be "burned" as mel says, why do I have to be the one piling wood on the bonfire?
I leave it to others, too, to explain how such an able and attractive human being was so twisted that he would risk the health and happiness of his family with such incredibly risky behavior.

Melinda Romanoff

Oh no, clarice, the burning is a self-inflicted wound. Big difference. I do not want to pour gas on this thing. I hope he learns something from his own actions.

Do I feel sorry for him? No. Wife and children? Immeasureably so.

All I can do is shake my head at the stupidity, and "support" from his entourage.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

It isn't like he is a politician, preacher, or something. He is a pampered athlete. Why anyone expected more is beyond me.

And Captain Hate:

There are a lot of people that have problems caused by circumstances well out of their control that are more deserving of sympathy

This sound like you think sympathy is a zero sum game and that there is only so much to go around. That's ridiculous. I'm quite able to multi-task in the sympathy dept., as I'm sure most are.

Clarice is right, it has turned sordid. It has become sordid voyeurism. He royally screwed up, he admitted it, and he has kept a low profile since. This feeding frenzy is all about destroying the man now and it is sickening.

Tiger did not bring excitement or joy into people's lives because of some manufactured squeaky clean image, he did it through his talent and skill. I have great sympathy for the golf fans who may be deprived of watching him play.

Fritz

When this thing started I felt sorry for Tiger and the family - stuff happens, leave them alone. As all of the sordid details of Tiger's long history of scummy actions have been revealed I now feel sorry for all of his many fans who thought he was basically a good guy, maybe a bit intense who behaved a bit crudely on the course, but basically a good guy.

Tiger is a low life and the people who surround him whether media, business, family or friends are guilty of aiding and abetting his inexcusable and immoral behavior. I'm no prude and do not expect perfection of character. BUT his public image compared to his life long actions are as different as Obama running as a moderate compared to his voting record as the most left wing senator.

MayBee

I was wondering today how the bride-to-be of his best friend must feel, the girl who is to marry (this weekend) the guy who has been organizing Tiger's girlfriends' trips.

I think that would be really hard to face.

Captain Hate

This sound like you think sympathy is a zero sum game and that there is only so much to go around. That's ridiculous. I'm quite able to multi-task in the sympathy dept., as I'm sure most are.

You make an incorrect assumption of what I think; although thanks for not telling me I don't know what it's like to compete in sports at the highest level.

peter

Per your "More comedy at LUN", see what I just ran across (currently the 2nd review).

Dave in Mass, thanks for the link. Very funny. As someone wiser than me pointed out, you can't have a midnight sun in September. Well, duh, Al Gore's science is as bad as his poetry.

One positive sign. I was at a seminar this weekend at an Ivy League college. (You know, the one the Clintons met at.) There was a magazine in one of the classroom buildings, distributed by the business school. Amazingly enough, there was an article about what a dope Al Gore is. This is ground zero of liberal delusion. Maybe there is hope for America.

Janet

Feel sorry for Tiger? No that's not happening.

I feel a sadness for Tiger, or anyone that ends up living a lie and hiding sin.
I wondered - Is an extramarital affair viewed as a sin anymore in our society? Is sex outside of marriage wrong? Looking at our entertainment, I would have to guess no, but apparently in Tiger's case the answer is yes.
There is a disconnect between what our society/culture promotes and then -
*the standard we hold people to
*which people we hold to that standard

What ARE the moral rules, and to whom do they apply?

clarice

Janet, here's the blog:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/12/double_standard_for_a_dem.html

Janet

Oh my, thanks Clarice!

clarice

Thank you--yours was a great observation.

Captain Hate

Since I'm not registered at AT:

Are the marketers more sensitive to public reaction than is Congress? Yes

Are reporters so certain that the public is interested in every detail of Tiger's misdeeds and totally disinterested in the Jennings story ? If not why has one story received so much coverage and the other virtually none? No, they're covering for Jennings because it's "progressive".

Are American parents more concerned about their kids drinking Gatorade promoted by a serial adulterer than they are about a school czar who headed an outfit that promoted to children pedophilia, toddler sex games, prostitution, fisting and anal sex in restrooms? Probably not.

Or, is it possible that the press, as it once did with Woods, is continuing to cover for Jennings (and his boss, the President) so that parents are unaware of the situation and would demand action-Jennings removal from political office-- if they did know. Yes.

clarice

That's how I'd answer those queries, Capt.
(The other day someone--maybe you--mentioned difficulty registering and I brushed that off because until a couple of days ago I never had to register to comment. Now you do apparently though I don't know why te switch. )

Rick Ballard

"I don't know why the switch."

It's undoubtedly part of the netwide Sylvan Bozon Emission control project. Forcing strong emitters to register using actual names and verifiable email addresses reduces the amount of depleted Moronium in the blogosphere. Bgates can't be everywhere.

clarice

Probably so, Rick.

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