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February 15, 2010

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Charlie (Colorado)

I think I predicted this somewhere else on JOM, but just for the record, I predict the GOP will take both houses in November.

Captain Hate

Thank God Michael Steele has been sequestered somewhere so to not interrupt this Donk meltdown.

Porchlight

No kidding, Cap'n. Wherever Steele is, keep him there.

Oh wait, I think I heard he was meeting with some Tea Party leaders. What could go wrong?

bunky

He voted against Condi in 2005. S%*t like that comes around and bites you.

DebinNC

Bayh voted against Roberts and Alito, but for Sotomayor. He's a MINO.

bunky

I always thought he had the best hair in the Senate.

Jane

I always thought he had the best hair in the Senate.

Then came Scott Brown.

The herd will soon be in movement.

He's trying to pre-empt Hillary in running against Obama.
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bela1

It starts. I hate to say it but I think I'm going to enjoy this Dem meltdown!

clarice

I think he made a misjudgement in voting for the "stimulus" bill and the HCR bill and found himself in the wilderness. In any event he's a lifelong Washingtonian with roots here and a lobbyist wife who makes a lot of $$$. He'll undoubtedly join her.

Jim Ryan

If the Dems put Hillary or Evan up in 2012, I guess they feel they can win even if blacks sit this one out.

SeeingRed

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Extraneus

I think he made a misjudgement in voting for the "stimulus" bill and the HCR bill and found himself in the wilderness.

That was one monumental misjudgment. At least Hillary can say she wouldn't have voted the same way. (Not that anyone would believe her.)

glasater

Bayh is speaking at this moment.

Sounds like he's getting tired of the poisoned partisan atmosphere in DC and does get a shot in at the R's.

bio mom

Bayh seems quite two-faced. Said one thing, did another.

Chris

Anyone in Vegas have the over-under on /dem senators post-2010 election? Oh wait, Vegas is out, per BHO.

RichatUF

Jim Ryan-

Unlikely.

RichatUF

Intrade is still giving the edge to Democrats to control both houses after the 2010 mid-terms.

Ignatz

--Bayh seems quite two-faced. Said one thing, did another.--

Like father, like son.
I always found Birch Senior a Janus faced galoot.

DebinNC

Intrade is still giving the edge to Democrats to control both houses after the 2010 mid-terms

That's our best chance of making BO a one-termer imo.

Neo

Is Barbara Mikulski next ?

JorgXMcKie

Hoosierpundit.com [?] says that Dems have only until tomorrow to get a Senate candidate on the ballot by entry into the primary, and that only a "progressive" who was challenging Bayh from the Left has been trying to get the necessary signatures [and is about 1000 signatures short, total -- 500 in each US Rep district]. If she doesn't get on, the Dem central committee gets to place someone on the ballot. If she does, they don't. That could be very interesting.

windansea

from Firedoglake

I just spoke with Tamyra D’Ippolito, the candidate who was already running in the US Senate primary as a Democrat in Indiana before Evan Bayh ended his re-election bid today. D’Ippolito’s potential presence on the primary ballot complicates the ability for Indiana Democrats to handpick a nominee. If nobody qualifies for the primary, Indiana Dems can choose the candidate. But if D’Ippolito qualifies, then she would be the only candidate on that primary ballot, and Brad Ellsworth or Baron Hill or whoever would have to run a write-in campaign to defeat her in that primary in May.

So how’s D’Ippolito doing? She’s collected 3,500 of the 4,500 signatures, 500 in each Congressional district in Indiana, which are needed by noon tomorrow in order to qualify. D’Ippolito said that she’s particularly short in IN-08, in the Terre Haute/Evansville area of the district. Her campaign manager has contacted all of the heads of the county Democratic parties asking them if they would help her get on the ballot.

But she’s not getting the sense that they want to be helpful in that effort. “Politics in Indiana is the old boy’s school. They’re getting ready to put one of their own in,”

openleft blog begging lefties to not help this candidate with signatures

http://www.openleft.com/diary/17405/#216611

I think we should help the lady out :)

here is petition for Indiana residents
http://ow.ly/17yRC

Rob Crawford

Sounds like he's getting tired of the poisoned partisan atmosphere in DC...

Except that the only residence he has in Indiana is a two-bedroom condo. He's tired of the poisonous atmosphere, so he's going to stay in DC...

What's happened is, he's realized he's not going to win reelection, so he's decided not to go out a loser.

pagar

How sad it Is

"One of her complaints is that the health insurance that is provided for Congress is "poor" with high deductibles and "limitations" on coverage. My contact tells me that she told an aide that she should have inserted in the ObamaCare bill an amendment to improve Congressional health insurance!"

Missed an opportunity to upgrade the Senate healthcare?

glasater

I don't know Rob. Bayh is/was "up" against everyone except Pence and Pence it appears is staying in the House--a good thing.

Extraneus

DoT: Check this out if you're reading.

Tea Party of Nevada: Real Third Party, or False Flag?

Old Lurker

No Mikulski?

Be still my heart.

Those of us in Maryland could ask for nothing nicer. (Yes, I know we have plenty of really whacky Dems to take her place, and virtually no chance of an R.)

glasater

OL-

Couldn't you get Michael Steele to run for the Senate? He did it before--would have to step down as head of the RNC.

Problem/s solved:)

Rob Crawford

I don't know Rob. Bayh is/was "up" against everyone except Pence and Pence it appears is staying in the House--a good thing.

A member of the party that has been in control of Congress for three years -- one of them with a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate -- whinges about the "partisan atmosphere" as his reason for retiring? It's pure, unadulterated BS.

If he's really got an issue with the atmosphere in DC, he'd move somewhere else and get a job unrelated to the federal government. Instead, he's going to sell the unnecessary condo in Indianapolis, sit out the mandatory waiting period, and become a lobbyist.

He's acting like someone who knows he can't keep his job, not like someone who's sick of the whole business.

Jim Ryan

1/3 of the country are nincompoops.

1/3 are conservative.

The other 1/3 are "not into politics" and vote on a lark for whoever sounds good.

GOP can field an incoherent liberal Republican and lose. Or it can field a conservative and have a chance of winning. The chance of winning is handicapped high because leftism has to be gussied up by a talented conman to sound good to the muddle. A Gore or a Kerry is not sufficient to win. Conservatism, on the other hand, is easy to make sound good and has been since the 1760's. That's because it's right.

You do not need brainiac. You need someone with brains and common sense.

You do not need a manipulator like Obama but only someone who can smile and speak clearly about stuff that's been obvious for over 200 years.

If it's the presidency, you need someone with executive talent, as well.

That's it. That's all you need. If the GOP can't deliver that, then you may as well field Tea Party candidates. The Dems will win anyway if you don't.

clarice

Maybe Barbara could cut down on her food budget to pay her health care costs.

Old Lurker

Damn good idea, Glasater! Two birds, one stone.

Rob Crawford

Oh, and let's be blunt -- if Bayh's really got a problem with the partisan atmosphere, where was he between 2001 and today? Did the partisanship upset him when his colleagues were chanting "Bush lied, people died", holding fake "hearings" at their party headquarters, and giving Code Pink passes to hearings?

No, Bayh's problem with "partisanship" is that Republicans aren't bending over and taking it like submissives.

daddy

I believe TM's case of weekend writers block is over.

clarice

Well, on this sad day I am comforted to read in Barcepundit that the NYT is wrong, The chef of El Bulli is not closing the restaurant for good..So there's still a chance I might taste such creations as an olive made of who knows what compounds and gels that tastes like an uber olive.

Rick Ballard

"I don't see how a middle-aged white moderate male can defeat Obama in the Democratic primaries, but 2012 is several political lifetimes away."

You're not trying hard enough.

Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as president.

Those words were spoken three years after a 61% victory and passage of every lib moist dream program the Dems could cook up. It didn't stop the the MoveOn Marxists of the '60's from shredding LBJ any more than today's clones of those same morons will be stopped from shredding BOzo for his failures with the [u-pickem] hash dreams which fill their pointy yet totally vacuous heads today.

Bayh still sees a President in the mirror every morning and '11-'12 will be excellent years to play Centrist Phoenix for the gullible muddle. Besides - it's going to be much safer to watch the '10 Tsunami from the sidelines rather than from right in front of it.

Rob Crawford

Watch for Bayh to try his hand on TV.

McCain next?

Was it 'ask and ye shall receive' about Mikulski, or did someone already know?
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Soylent Red

Going with the Ballard explanation.

Bayh is setting himself up for a 2012 run. He is something like 20 pts up in his Indiana primary race, but the longer he hangs around, the bigger the Obamatross around his neck. He will lose to the Republican challenger and be permanently associated with Obama.

I look at this as doubly good news. First, we'll likely take his seat. Second, qualified members of the party are starting to sort themselves out in the event that Obama is damaged to badly or quits. The more of these kinds of resignations we see emerge, the more likely that one or both of those possibilities is coming to pass.

Love it. With Bill sickabed, how long before Hillary decides to "spend more time" with him?

Fresh Air

Rich--

I would say that's a tremendous buying opportunity at Intrade. The GOP is definitely going to take the House. The Senate is no sure thing, but with Rossi leading Murray, the black swan may be about to land in Lafayette Park.

P.S. Check the sidebar. Trent Lott and Mark Kirk will have to duke it out for best hair in the upper chamber.

Fresh Air

Kim--

I don't see McCain pulling out. What else does he have to do with himself? Is going to do Viagra commercials like Dole?

Fresh Air

Question for the board:

Who was the last president to resign mid-term or decide not to stand for re-election whose party won in his stead? Deaths in office don't count.

Rick Ballard

For your bookmarking pleasure.

Charlie Cook is generally a tad more optimistic about Dem than Rep chances but he's generally pretty accurate.

Rick Ballard

FA,

Garfield succeeded Hayes but Hayes had actually promised during the '76 election campaign that he would only serve one term. Dunno if that really counts.

daddy

If I was JD Hayworth I would do everything I could to continue to get Meghan McCain TV exposure.

Every time she starts yammering about the political genius of todays 20 year olds is a reminder of why McCain needs to hit the wilderness and take that big mouth imbecile with him.

pagar

From the You can't make this stuff up Dept. and Legal Insurrection. Do not read this with a mouthful of your favorite beverage.

Sen Bayh is IMMORAL

And here we thought they only picked on Sarah Palin.

Thomas Collins

In connection with the bye bye watch, see LUN for an article on how ma'am Boxer, er, SENATOR Boxer may have a tough race.

Danube of Thought

Thanks, Extraneus. I think the genuine TP'ers are too smart to screw up a good thing with third-party follies.

Danube of Thought

ChaCo, if your prediction comes true I am putting you in for the JOM equivalent of the Nobel Prize for something-or-other.

Melinda Romanoff

I hears a-rumblin' in the distance.

STAMPEDE!

This is getting fun.

Danube of Thought

Coolidge was eligible to run in 1928 but didn't, so the GOP nominated Hoover who won.

Rob Crawford

Sen Bayh is IMMORAL

Yglesias is the leading edge in lefty tantrum-throwing. Whadda bunch of spoiled little brats.

Thomas Collins

Federalist Washington declined to run for a third term and was replaced by Federalist Adams.

I realize that by classifying Washington as a Federalist, I am stepping into an American history minefield as to the meaning of party during Washington's term as opposed to now, and the issue of whether it is appropriate to identify Washington as affiliated with one faction or another.

Rick Ballard

Teddy Roosevelt could have run in '08 but kept the promise that he made in the '04 campaign (and subsequently broke in '12 - which gave us Wilson). I forgot about Silent Cal.

Thomas Collins

If CHACO is correct, Obama will have accomplished a greater Dem to GOP shift than Ronald Reagan.

Melinda Romanoff

That stampede was Boxer going up on the ropes.

Seems she can't break 50 in any of her head to head polls.

Extraneus

Kenneth Starr Named President of Baylor University

Hope it's not a double post.

Extraneus

Not Madame Senator! Say it ain't so, Mel.

Fritz

If CHACO is correct, Obama will have accomplished a greater Dem to GOP shift than Ronald Reagan.

but it won't matter a lick if the republicans implement a compassionate conservative platform - a few years from now conservatism is back at square one. They key has to be getting the right people elected and holding them accountable.

matt

from what the London papers wrote, clarice, it did sound as if he was losing his shirt. El Bulli was only open @ 5 months of the year, and they spent 6 months coming up with even wackier recipes. At $450/head without wine and with a complete sellout every night, he was losing half a million/year. Now he can go on Iron Chef and make real money....

The MSM is wailing and gnashing their teeth that Bayh has betrayed The One. Can't wait to read DowdRichKrug savaging him tomorrow. Eating their own seems to be becoming a habit.

Thomas Collins

Forgive the OT, but JOMers might enjoy Senator Brown's takedown of Veep Biden discussed in Jammie Wearing Fool (see LUN).

Melinda Romanoff

Ex-

I'll let it run by again.

STAMPEDE!

Extraneus

Bayh was a fool for not coming out against the health care takeover when it could have done him the most good. He would have been a hero to millions of non-moonbat Democrats who would have flocked to his banner.

Like Clarice said, it was a "misjudgment."

Jack is Back!

matt,

I don't think Iron Chef is prepared to conduct a 6 1/2 hour show so that El Bulli can create a sweet potato stuffed pickle with lemon grass and tomatillo confit en papilotte with a gorgonzola parfait oyster cocktail. But considering that Food Channel is stuck on effete cake challenges that grate the mind, maybe they will.

DebinNC

Redstate is trying to help the Indiana Dems field a primary candidate.

Thomas Collins

If the facts in the LUNed article turn out to be correct, Jane's theory that Amy Bishop has friends in very influential places looks better and better.

Rick Ballard

"If CHACO is correct"

invert it - Charlie is wrong because....

He ain't wrong. The Stim I money isn't even holding unemployment and the newest, bestest green shoot is just as sickly as those which have blown away before it. Note the reiterative use of "uncertainty" in that article (by the AP agitprop machine). That all belongs to Team BOzo dragging around the corpse of HCR and Cap & Trade. The brain dead progs just won't let them be buried and they're going to rot and stink until the '10 Tsunami washes them away.

I'd be happy to listen to a decent argument as to why Charlie is wrong and I believe that Rep incumbents should be worried as well (but not as much) as Dem incumbents but I see no sign that Team BOzo is stopping at the precipice to which Obama has brought the Democrat Party.

anduril

Hadn't seen this before, but it seemed strangely appropriate. It's probably way old:


PD

Sounds like he's getting tired of the poisoned partisan atmosphere in DC...

Boo hoo. Those Democrats who with unstoppable majorities in both chambers and a Democrat president could have passed anything they wanted were rendered helpless in the face of those mean Republicans who foiled them at every turn.

Yeah, right.

How long do they think they can trot out this carp?

Jane

Bayh is setting himself up for a 2012 run. He is something like 20 pts up in his Indiana primary race


That was my guess, but my fellow Rotarians think perhaps Obama's gun to every democrat's head is causing the fall-out. Perhaps some actually can't abide the blackmail. Now someone just needs to drop a dime.

Fresh Air

Okay, Rick. I don't actually know the answer either. But Garfield is a reasonable response. I think it does prove my point. If you, as president, are such a screw-up that you can't/won't run for re-election, you have effectively also ruined the chance for your successor. Ergo, Bayh's logic is faulty. He may get a serious crack in 2016 if anyone still cares about him then. But he almost certainly can't win in 2012, no matter how Zero leaves office. This goes double for Hillary. She should get out and go run Wellesley while she still can.

Melinda Romanoff

Downhill's on, my event.

Outta here.

Soylent Red

That was my guess, but my fellow Rotarians think perhaps Obama's gun to every democrat's head is causing the fall-out.

Possibly Bayh is a man of conscience, but my guess is that he was tired of being part of a political suicide cult.


If you, as president, are such a screw-up that you can't/won't run for re-election, you have effectively also ruined the chance for your successor.

I don't think that is necessarily the case if a potential successor is prepared to break with the majority of his party early and often. Seems to me that Bayh could be positioning himself for the rehabilitation of the Democrat brand after or during the coming failure.

What's most interesting to me is how this is all coming about in a flurry. That suggests that one or more political strategists are divining the same future.

Of course this is all new territory for me. I've no memory of LBJ imploding or anything like this (1996, IIRC, didn't have this kind of lead time).

hekj

Tamyra D’Ippolito a lesbian too? President's wife was bad enough.

Danube of Thought

Why isn't Coolidge the correct answer?

Jane

I just don't understand why Bayh would not stand up and separate himself from this administration now, rather than vote for the suicide pact if there wasn't some serious blackmail going on. And lots are saying that the timing was a knife in the back to Harry Reid - which I support completely.

Fresh Air

DoT--

Okay, that's warmer. Collidge isn't correct because Harding had died in office. However, the answer, after thinking about it, is Hoover. Coolidge voluntarily decided not to run, though it wasn't out of lack of popularity. Obviously, with Zero the Narcissist, only certain defeat would keep him from running again.

Soylent Red

President's wife was bad enough.

No, no, no...

Barack Obama being a Muslim is not the same as his wife being from Lebanon.

Let's not jump to irrational conclusions here.

Rick Ballard

Coolidge is the correct answer. I actually missed FA's point wrt screwing up the chances for Bayh's successor. I consider Bayh to be a regular apres moi, le deluge pol who is only thinking about the brass ring in '12 or '16. By either date, it will be the fact that he made it to high ground which will be most remembered (except by the remaining prog loons). He definitely has the fever.

He may also be tired of dealing with the Team BOzo dirtbags arm twisting as well. Who would want to spend any more time with that scum than absolutely necessary?

Jack is Back!

Melinda,

Laptops are named that for a reason. You can blog and watch all the same time. Miller, who is I think sometimes too reckless, wasn't reckless or technical enough today. I think he still has the best chance for Bronze since it is really getting channeled hard down on the bottom half. This is speed and carve course that always favors the Austrians and Swiss since they can handle changed snow conditions. Canadian just wiped out. Looks like Bode gets his Bronze, maybe.

Another silly winner. The Swiss guy has never finished higher than 4th in either a world cup or olympic event. Same thing just happened earlier in the men's 15km cross country free style. A first for the Swiss there.

Ignatz

Coolidge not Hoover is correct because the original question was which pres resigned or didn't stand for re-election, not which one succeeded him.

Fresh Air

Sorry, Ignatz and Rick, you are both quite right.

Coolidge is the last guy to leave the office unsullied enough to allow the successor from his party to keep it. I'm thinking Zero's popularity will never again see Coolidge levels, however.

glasater

Know this is pretty obvious but Bayh must not have known about D'Ippolito to have this kind of chaos going on in Indiana for the D's.

How sweet:)

Jack is Back!

Bayh is being two faced. Sure he challenged I Won in the Dem's meeting of Feb 3 and that may have been a precursor of things to come. But he voted for TARP, the Stimulus and HRC. He has a party line voting record comparable to Hillary's and even Boxer's. I mean if he was so moderate and a social and fiscal conservative, how could he rationalize the vote for HRC and the Stim? Something else is brewing here. By denying the Indiana Dems to amass some credible challenge and let Coats back in the game could he be considered a "racist"?

Janet

It is the same with the so called Blue Dog Sen. Jim Webb here in Virginia....he votes with the Dems. and he is a big government liberal. The Washington Post calls him a centrist because he owns a gun. They call our other Senator Mark Warner a conservative Democrat centrist too....but he votes for all the big government crap.
Just because the Washington Post says it's so doesn't make it so. They tell me Obama is really smart too, and I've yet to see the proof.

Melinda Romanoff

JiB-

When the spread between the top three finishers is under a tenth of a second, there is no difference in their styles or lines they skied. Just a hint of a breeze separated them.

I probably would have blown out in the top third of that course, chatter was my enemy.

Melinda Romanoff

And that "Swiss guy" ran a sweet bottom half of that race in the soft stuff, and kept a tight tuck in the air, probably saved him. Very hard to do at the bottom of the run, his dry land training must have been grueling for that level of stamina.

PD

Possibly Bayh is a man of conscience

By voting in lockstep with Obama's agenda, I'd say he's closed the door on that proposition.

Fresh Air

MR--

I watched a replay of Bill Johnson's victory in the downhill in Sarajevo the other day. He won by six one-thousandths of a second.

Fresh Air

...one-hundredths! I mean. Still, you're talking a gnat's eyelash there.

Danube of Thought

After the Senate vote on healthcare legislation, I think we have to conclude that there is not a single moderate Democrat in that body. You simply cannot vote for that fundamental a change in the relationship between Americans and their government and call yourself "moderate." The proposal was and is nothing short of radical, and its importance overshadows anything the congress has voted on in decades. You voted for it, you own the vote, but don't come tell me you're a goddam moderate. You're not.

Melinda Romanoff

FA-

What happened to Bill was a tragedy, if you don't know, he crashed trying to make a return, and suffered a massive brain injury. I didn't know him, personally, but teammates of mine, and those I coached, knew him.

His win was considered a fluke, and rightly so, but when you get to that level, you are usually within a "gnat's eyelash" of winning.

clarice

I agree completely DoT.

On the topic of food and wine, we dined at our favorite Italian restaurant here in Sarasota (Meditteraneo).Along with all their Italian wines they serve mcmanis cabernet sauvignon which is a very lovely and reasonable wine from California. If you are looking for a wine that goes well with most Italian foods and red meats, give it a try.

sam

"I don't think that is necessarily the case if a potential successor is prepared to break with the majority of his party early and often."

Soylent, that argument is pretty weak.

If the electorate is looking for someone who breaks with the Dems, why would they elect another Dem (however "moderate"), and not a Rep?

Danube of Thought

"I'd be happy to listen to a decent argument as to why Charlie is wrong..."

If the proposition at issue is Charlie's prediction that the GOP will take both houses in 2010, I think he's wrong (though I fervently hope that he's right).

The simplest argument in favor of my view is that I can't identify ten Senate seats now held by the Dems for which there is a sufficient probability of a GOP takeover. (And I think this argument suffices even without considering the probability of the loss of one or more seats now held be the GOP.)

But I'd be happy to hear a list of the ten, and we can address them one by one, starting with the longest shots. And remember, you gotta be right on ten out of ten.

clarice

DoT. Unless my memory is failed again, I recall Barone saying of the 17 Dem Senators up for re-election, only one (Schumer) holds a safe seat.

sam

If a Dem cannot hide in MA, a Dem cannot hide anywhere.

Rick Ballard

Reid, Bennet, Spector, IN, IL, DE, Lincoln, Boxer, Wyden, Murray. Wyden would be the most difficult, then Boxer and Murray (unless Rossi runs). Feingold isn't particularly safe either.

clarice

More potential problems for the Dems:

U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg taken to area hospital after fall By James Queally/The Star-Ledger February 15, 2010, 9:51PM U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg was taken by ambulance tonight from his Cliffside Park home after suffering a fall, his spokesman said. The 86-year-old Democrat was conscious when he was taken to the hospital "as a precautionary measure," said the spokesman, Caley Grey. Grey said he did not know if Lautenberg had fallen inside the Bergen County condominium or whether he had suffered any injuries

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