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February 08, 2010

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daddy

Clarice's ">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7019866.ece"> Philosopher King Link above.

A sample:

"When France’s most dashing philosopher took aim at Immanuel Kant in his latest book, calling him “raving mad” and a “fake”, his observations were greeted with the usual adulation. To support his attack, Bernard-Henri Lévy — a showman-penseur known simply by his initials, BHL — cited the little-known 20th-century thinker Jean-Baptiste Botul.

There was one problem: Botul was invented by a journalist in 1999 as an elaborate joke, and BHL has become the laughing stock of the Left Bank."

C'est la frickin' vie!

JM Hanes

Sara:

"Tea Party Majority....."

I was questioning the breadth of Sarah Palin's base, not the character of the Tea Party movement, which is clearly not limited to political conservatives.

JM Hanes

Porchlight:

"Maybe the secret sauce is that after sucking up media oxygen for two years, Palin won't run, and all the anti-Palin folks will be so relieved that they'll be thrilled to pull the lever for Romney or whoever. (Not Huckabee I hope.)"

Romney and Huckabee are hardly fresh voices -- which was essentially my point. For whom do you think the pro-Palin folks would pull the lever, if she doesn't run?

Fresh Air

Bernard-Henri Lévy — a showman-penseur poseur

Fixed it for easier translation.


Fresh Air

I'm pro-Palin with reservations. Romney is okay with me, especially because the fiscal crisis will (still) be front and center during the entirety of the next president's term. Whatever his other credentials, presumably he understands capital formation, financial markets and tax policy.

I could see someone like Jeff Flake, maybe Eric Cantor, Mitch Daniels, or hell, even Rudy if he's up to the task next time. Michelle Bachmann? It's also possible a Perot-like figure could get traction as the nation looks for fresh blood willing to take on the major fiscal problems that will become only more acute with time.

But definitely no current members of the Senate. And not Newt either.

Extraneus

Suppose Iran really does have something big planned for 2/11. Wouldn't you expect this kind of butt-covering in the days leading up to it?

Gates Wants Iran Sanctions in 'Weeks, Not Months'

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told reporters Tuesday that Gates "clearly thinks time is of the essence."
peter

Bernard-Henri Lévy

Clarice, that link is hysterical.

fdcol63

Yeah, all this talk of an Iranian "punch that will stun the West" is starting to worry me.

On the one hand, it could just be a lot of bombastic saber-rattling.

But on the other hand, the Iranian mullahs are about as bat shit crazy as the Dems.

They know their regime is unstable, and unstable regimes led by desperate, bat shit crazy mullahs who hate the West and Israel can be expected to do violent, irrational things.

I wish Obama liked America and the West enough .... and had the cajones .... to warn Iran that Tehran will simply cease to exist if they punch us at all.

Janet

Is there Islamic religious significance to Feb. 11th (or the Islamic calendar equivalent)? I know our leaders don't take Islamic religious beliefs seriously...but they do.

fdcol63

Feb. 11 is the 31st anniversary of the Iranian Revolution, when they toppled the shah.

Porchlight

For whom do you think the pro-Palin folks would pull the lever, if she doesn't run?

JMH,

I really have no idea. I don't particularly want to vote for either of those guys, though I would vote for Romney if he were the nominee. That's the problem, you have to go with the person out there with the most viable chance. Regardless of what Palin's doing at the moment, it's getting a little late in the game to hope that some brand new person throws their hat in. Mitch Daniels? Honestly, I've no clue.

Melinda Romanoff

Janet-

Feb. 11, at least converted to the Iranian calendar, is the 31st anniversary of their state.

pagar

"For whom do you think the pro-Palin folks would pull the lever, if she doesn't run?"

IMO, many would pull the lever for anyone who claimed to be against the leftists. But I also believe there would be less votes cast because no one else, at this point, generates the excitement that Palin does. The thing that disturbs me right now are the many comments seen on some sites, saying that Brown is experienced and Palin is not. IMO that is not helpful to anyone trying to generate more votes for right leaning candidates. Brown has some experience, Palin has some experience, why not let both of them help others on the right get elected.

Janet

So it's more of a political date as opposed to a prophetic/religious date?

fdcol63

I think most people in America, especially the Dems, have overlooked the larger strategy that was in play with both of our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

We've always known that Iran was the larger threat. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were important in themselves, to address the immediate threats posed by AQ and Saddam, but it's no accident that Iran lies right in the middle of these 2 countries.

The hope has always been to change the dynamics in the region so that a larger war with Iran would be unnecessary. The best way to do this was to effect regime change in Iran by encouraging the Iranian people to overthrow the mullahs themselves. The best way to accomplish this was by fostering democratic movements and governments on Iran's borders.

There was no way this was going to happen with the status quo of Saddam in power in Iraq or with the Taliban and AQ running things in Afghanistan. They both had to go, and unfortunately, war was the only sure method of achieving these goals in the time frame we had.

If this more peaceful method of dealing with the Iranian regime wasn't possible, then we at least have terrority on both Iran's eastern and western borders from which we could stage a military invasion.

We see the possibility of a popular Iranian revolt against the mullahs only because Saddam is no longer a threat to them on their left flank, and the Sunni threat to their east has been somewhat neutralized.

We can only imagine the popular uprising that might have already occurred had the Dems supported the war efforts instead of doing everything they could to make Iraq and Afghanistan into modern-day Vietnam quagmires.

clarice

As soon as a movement or group picks a leader it will lose some adherents. It's best there be no leader until there must be otat is primary time for the 2012 elections.

clarice

"otat" of course =THat

boris

There isn't just one group of pro Palin voters. The risk that Sarah poses for the establishment GOP is unless they give her the fairest of fair shots they can't win in 2012 without her voters.

Trying to avoid that risk is probably a big source of the "Sarah is a great American but she shouldn't run for president".

Unfortunately, harping on that theme increases the odds of a perception of unfairness.

Janet

Republican candidate?...I hope it's not Huckabee, or Newt...
I want someone who confidently and with strength espouses the conservative platform. They must be immune to the media/pundit class.
I always liked Rudy too because of that quality even though I'm more socially conservative. It is why I liked Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
Maybe Sarah Palin was so good, because McCain was so bad. He was exactly what I don't want...a politician looking to compromise to please the media/pundit class.

Jane

How about a college professor and a student? Usually this is just someone in a position of power over someone else and using it get something he otherwise couldn't get. With perhaps a quid pro quo for the student. The Monica thing seems similarly inappropriate.

Completely inappropriate but none of my business. If she can't handle herself let her parents get involved not the federal government.

fdcol63

But in this case, Clinton was the federal government, no?

bunkerbuster

Exactly what is it about Republicans the Tea Partiers can't abide?

I get why they don't like liberals, but why can't they be happy with the GOP?

Jane

Maybe the hypocrisy - the spending - the club bunkerbuster.

narciso

I was looking up 22 Bahman, (February 11th) and there doesn't seem to be a particular
religious significance to that, but it did fall of an 11 day period.

Certain cites like GOP 12, which almost seems like a parody of what the Huff Po would think would be a GOP site, is always posting dismissive an anecdotes no matter how conjectural, ad well as Race42008, which seem strong for Romney and more recently Daniels

Extraneus

Everything else aside, I think we would all agree that no other potential candidate has the stick-it-in-their-eye appeal that Sarah does. Man, what I wouldn't give to watch Obama in the honored chair having to sit through her First Inaugural, with the cameras on him while she graciously thanks him for his and his administration's support during the transition.

(Watch Jimmy Carter here for a taste of that.)

boris

"inappropriate but none of my business"

It was BJ who made a public spectacle of his flagrante delictos. Sexual political correctness may be a recent phenom from the fem-left but they managed to attach legal consequences under new rules.

Once that happens it is not "hypocritical" to require that the "new rules" apply to everybody or they apply to nobody.

JM Hanes

pagar:

"The thing that disturbs me right now are the many comments seen on some sites, saying that Brown is experienced and Palin is not."

I haven't seen such assertions myself, myself, mostly the opposite. The enthusiasm for Brown as a presidential prospect in some quarters, however, suggests that liberals are not the only suckers for unproven charismatic candidates like Obama. You'd think they might have noticed that the Prez has just spent a year demonstrating that the ability to win an election alone doesn't tell us much about the ability to govern effectively.

Cecil Turner

It was BJ who made a public spectacle of his flagrante delictos.

It was also part of his pattern of sexual harassment, which is why it came up in the first place. And he was willing to commit perjury (and to suborn perjury, though that was never proved) to hide it.

As someone noted above, pretending the affair started after Monica was no longer an intern is just one of his misdirections. The fact that he felt he needed to lie about that is a pretty good indicator he knew it was wrong.

boris

"not the only suckers for unproven charismatic candidates like Obama"

Reagan was a cult ... Sarah is a cult ... Scott is a cult ... just like Obama.

Okay we get it. Cults are bad bad bad. But noone, nobody nohow is anything like Obama.

Rob Crawford

So it's more of a political date as opposed to a prophetic/religious date?

Do they distinguish between those two? Keep in mind, they are a theocracy of sorts.

narciso

That Marist poll with a three way race with Bloomberg included, trans fat obsessed, 'terrorist is not a problem'Bloomberg among
the FrumDreher's of the world, why didn't they
pose a simple head to head poll.

fdcol63

I agree .... it's way too premature to encourage Brown to run for POTUS, and that Obama has demonstrated what we can get if we elect someone who doesn't have a solid record of executive leadership experience.

Porchlight

So it's more of a political date as opposed to a prophetic/religious date?

Do they distinguish between those two? Keep in mind, they are a theocracy of sorts.

True. It's the anniversary of their glorious Islamic revolution. In Iran's case political and religious are pretty much one and the same.

boris

"solid record of executive leadership experience"

Don't think Obama's lack of experience is the problem. He's going to have plenty of "experience" by 2012.

Jack is Back!

The strange disappearance of Jim Jones.

When you have accomplished only that which puts us in harm's way and you are so incompetent that you have to turn to Republican's to rescue your supposedly super majority Congress, then you don't need some guy with a chest full of medals who HAS accomplished lots of things.

Melinda Romanoff

narciso-

The speculation is that the poll was originally conducted head to head, but the numbers were brutal. Hence the third party red herring.

Janet

Yeah Rob, good point.

fdcol63

I wonder if Jones has been minimized because he disagreed with Obama's policies and they're afraid he'll say so publicly ... or worse, if he agreed with them.

Porchlight

And he was willing to commit perjury (and to suborn perjury, though that was never proved) to hide it.

The suborning perjury part (as you said, never proven) is what got me the most. And the harrassment of the people who spoke out.

Plus, once your President has proven himself a liar, how do you know what else he may have lied about?

Not to mention the possibility of blackmail, from within and from without. Who knows what people could have forced him to do by threatening to go public with this stuff.

Thomas Collins

I haven't reads all posts on this thread, but one of the items being discussed appears to be whether Scott Brown would be a viable Prez contender in 2012. I think that Brown's best approach is to concentrate on constituent service and carving out a niche for himself in the Senate as a fiscal watchdog/tough on terrorism/social moderate GOPer. Brown is going to have a tough fight to gain a full term in 2012 (many Dem voters in urban strongholds didn't turn out in the special election), and taking care of business at home is essential. Brown has no chance of grabbing the GOP nomination in 2012, in my opinion, and any attempt to do so will anoint Michael Capuano as US Senator.

fdcol63

And some of us still doubt that Vince Foster's death was a suicide.

jean

After Obama I think the voters are going to be looking for someone with experience.If Haley Barbour didn't sound and look like Boss Hog he would be great.

Thomas Collins

On Iran, I think that Khamenei is planning the Mother of All Crackdowns on his opponents on 2/11/10. Let's hope that Obama, notwithstanding his publicly pusillanimous approach with Iran, has ordered an off the books operation to help topple Khamenei.

Jack is Back!

All you denizens of the mid-Atlantic, DC, Philly, NYC and Boston: your prayers have been answered by Henry">http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html'>Henry Ford in 1926.

Rob Crawford

If this more peaceful method of dealing with the Iranian regime wasn't possible, then we at least have terrority on both Iran's eastern and western borders from which we could stage a military invasion.

To be realistic, we only have an invasion route from the west (and south, always open); the logistics pipeline through Afghanistan is too thin. We can threaten and harass them from the east, but there's no way we could sustain a force operating from there.

anduril
Mr. McCain now sharply criticizes the bailout bill he voted for, pivoted from his earlier position that the Guantánamo Bay detention facility should be closed, offered only a muted response to the Supreme Court’s decision undoing campaign finance laws [one of which bears his name] and backed down from statements that gays in the military would be O.K. by him if the military brass were on board.

in the long run it's possible that we'll be better off having been spared a mccain presidency and having had to fight for principles against determined leftists in power.

Extraneus

I'm betting it's a nuclear test.

Jane

I'm with you TC. If Scott Brown decides he should run for president he has given away everything he earned in the election. And I would be shocked if he decided to do that.

anduril

"an off the books operation to help topple [an Iranian regime]."

Read some history. It was tried and "succeeded." It's why we ultimately ended up with an Islamic Republic (and, oh, we've got 'em in Iraq and Afghanistan, now, too). The dynamics of Iranian politics have not changed fundamentally over the last hundred years.

Jack is Back!

2-11-10

Just can't see a nuke test since that lets the genie out of the proverbial bottle. Even China and Russia then have to admit its a problem that cannot be ignored. But I can see a coordinated action by Hezbollah and Hamas as well as Syria against Israel sponsored by Iran. And while the world watches that the Iamanidiot mob crushes the green revolution, hangs the leaders, maybe even the American backpackers get a public caning.

But the most likely anti-climatic event will be another fizzled missile firing into the Straits of Hormuz to antagonize the US Navy and invite a response.

anduril

OTOH, Kant was quite mad, objectively speaking. Read about Kant in Etienne Gilson's classic The Unity of Philosophical Experience. Others in the German tradition were likewise mad--Hegel and Marx, for example. Cf., among many other sources, Eric Voegelin's brilliant article "On Hegel: A Study in Sorcery" as well as his Science, Politics, and Gnosticism.

narciso

Seriously, go read Taheri's account of the background to Operation AJAX in "Nest of Spies' to see why it was successful, Unfortunately, no one in the Shah's inner circle reminded him of that fact as he antagonized the two groups who composed the
anti Mossadeq coalition

Thomas Collins

Which part of history don't you think I have read, anduril? Cyrus? Mossadegh? The Shah? Khomenei? I realize that my approach is playing with fire. You might acknowledge when you present your approach that the fire is already raging. And you might find that you are more persuasive than you already are (I find much of what you write compelling, even if I disagree with your conclusions) if you stayed away from the snarky comments and considered the possibility that those engaging with you might be as knowledgable or more so than you, whether the topic is Aquinas, al-Farabi, Plato, Israel, Iran or the Super Bowl (OK, I admit that you haven't claimed superior knowledge about the Super Bowl). :-))

Neo

Quote of the day ...

"Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda." -- John Brennan -- Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism

anduril

"those engaging with you might be as knowledgable [sic] or more so than you"

Sounds like a claim to "superior knowledge."

Jack is Back!

I will hold Brennan personally accountable for any terror strike on the Homeland. He is a fool much in the Richard Clarke mold. Even the USA Today editorial board have turned on the Obama administration handling of National Security. They are eating their young in plain sight.

sbw

Comments like "Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda," by John Brennan, only serve the goals of al-Qaeda.

Janet

JIB...a new visual for the "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy" video.
I couldn't have one here in Northern Virginia. A Hummer makes my neighbor's blood boil...imagine that tractor...there'd be swooning and riots.

narciso

Brennan is following the 'nothing to see' here posture that he learned back when he
was station chief in Riyadh, as AQ was starting to get ramped up in the Peninsula. Bob Baer doesn't name him, but does describe
him to a tee in his memoir "See No Evil"

Danube of Thought

" It's why we ultimately ended up with an Islamic Republic..."

I think the causal connection there is a bit of a stretch. Once Mossadegh was ejected there were lots of ways things could have evolved; in the event, the one that ultimately took shape led to the revolution. And of course Jimmy stood by and watched, his superior sense of morality offended by the Shah's lack of purity.

clarice

O think the Little Imam is coming on the 11th..Well, in D.C. today more of my gutters are in bad shape even as the next storm is gathering steam. My husband is shoveling snow off the flat roof over the solarium because we fear another 20" would be more than it can handle.
we've made backup reservations for Friday in case we cannot get out on Thursday. (I'd cancel the whole damned thing but the kids and my granddaughter are flying in from L.A. and I don't want to miss that.

For yet another day the city is closed. Luckily I have enough food to give to my cleaning lady who tried to buy some at three stores and made it thru the snow only to find the shelves empty.

Janet

So if the 12th Iman is coming he might as well grab a snow shovel and make himself useful!

Janet

**Imam**

Danube of Thought

For my part, I found Clinton's behavior with Monica and others distasteful, particularly given his position of authority, but except in the case of Juanita Brodderick (for which he should have been imprisoned) it wasn't my business.

Until Clinton made it so. It was Clinton himself who decreed that the defendant in sexual harrassment cases had to answer under oath concerning his sexual history, and he got hoist on his own petard. (Clarice says it was by Executive Order; my recollection is that it was by an amendment to a statute which he signed into law with great fanfare.)

Captain Hate

And of course Jimmy stood by and watched, his superior sense of morality offended by the Shah's lack of purity.

Carter's selling out the Shah was possibly worse than FDR's complicity in turning over the Kulaks and other Rooski POWs to Stalin and sure torture and death. I give Roosevelt a partial pass because the Brits sold them out too.

As for JMH's question regarding who I'd vote for if Palin isn't on the ballot: I'll vote for whoever I perceive as the most conservative viable candidate. As evidence of that I held my nose and voted for McVain.

cathyf
How about a college professor and a student? Usually this is just someone in a position of power over someone else and using it get something he otherwise couldn't get. With perhaps a quid pro quo for the student. The Monica thing seems similarly inappropriate.
This is what I was trying to say... With the added emphasis "...using it [to] get something he otherwise couldn't get" being that the "it" that Clinton used is mine. Well, ok ours, as in all of the taxpayers. It's the same umbrage as Scott Brown telling the Kennedy worshipers that it's the people's seat not the Kennedy seat. Of course Kennedy used the people's seat in pretty much the same way.
Steve - NJ

I think the Palin TP speech was terrible. Why did she focus so much on foreign policy and winning the war in Afg? Save that for republican gatherings. That is if she can get enough republicans who want more war in Afg to gather.

The TP movement is not a political party. It is for sure, single issue driven - balancing the federal budget. You can make a good case those who identify with the TP also want immigration to be stopped and trade with China to be balanced.

Keep the TP focused on what 100% of its members agree on. Balancing the budget.


narciso

Right these so called realists who think that Ajax was the pivotal event, are too straight line, the White Revolution promoted in part under Kennedy pressure, which undermined the standing of the bazaaris, the more liberal social climate that angered the mullahs. The Nixon administration's overreliance on the Shah as a regional security pillar, which occasioned the OPEC shock in part, the whole
business with the Kurds, which led to the treaty that extracted Khomeini from Najaf
and sent him to Paris, and the fecklessness
of Carter all contributed to 22 Bahman (February 11th)

Captain Hate

For my part, I found Clinton's behavior with Monica and others distasteful, particularly given his position of authority, but except in the case of Juanita Brodderick (for which he should have been imprisoned) it wasn't my business.

Why not? He's a public servant rutting away in a public house with an underling. Are you saying if you came upon your butler banging your cook in your living room, you'd just walk away with an embarrassed look on your face? To hell with that.

Everybody that had a scintilla of insight knew Slick was a hound when he was running for President. The nags and harpies revealed themselves as hypocrites by giving him a pass on that. There's no need to join their complicity by this "it's none of my business" garbage. WE AREN'T EUROPE GODDAMMIT AND I LOVE EUROPE.

anduril

And of course Jimmy stood by and watched...

On the one hand, I'm not a Carter apologist.

On the other hand, this seems to presuppose that 1) the Shah's regime was unstable (which it was) and 2) that the US could have and should have propped the Shah's regime up. The latter points are debatable to dubious. None of the above is a defense, much less an endorsement, of the movement that overthrew the Shah still less of any aspect of the Islamic Republic. It's simply a recognition f geopolitical realities, including Persian culture and history.

Ignatz

--And of course Jimmy stood by and watched, his superior sense of morality offended by the Shah's lack of purity.--

Actually he did more than standby. He brought intense pressure to bear on the Shah to make political moves which greatly destabilized Iran. Particularly crippling was the land reform which consisted of confiscation and redistribution. That was almost entirely a Carter produced program and lost the Shah a great deal of support while gaining him him zero new friends.

anduril

My understanding is that Clinton got a blow job from Lewinsky while discussing troop deployments on the phone with a Congressman, in his (Clinton's) capacity as CinC. It seemed like my business at the time and still does, for a number of reasons.

Steve - NJ

"... Actually he did more than standby. He brought intense pressure to bear on the Shah to make political moves which greatly destabilized Iran. ..."

Based on the credibility the Iranian regime gains from its opposition to Israel, my guess is the failure of the Shah to oppose the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Golan was a strong factor that undermined his support.

Pagar

Another self destruct Story

It's from Riehl, so some may want to skip it. But it looks like more bad news for a political party that should have learned not to do this kind of stuff.

Rob Crawford

But it looks like more bad news for a political party that should have learned not to do this kind of stuff.

Parties are collections of individuals. Some individuals are criminal, stupid, or a combination of the two.

Steve - NJ

where is Rubio on immigration? I think it has to be stopped and I would not vote for a republican who wants to "maintain" legal immigration.

This story makes me lose all hope the US has a unified future:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/09/us/09walmart.html?ref=us

narciso

Well that was a sweet gig, doesn't it, it comes from the Tampa Buzz, I check out all the links

clarice

steve, I think you'd be wrong on that. The Iranian people do not share their Arab neighbors hatred of Israel. In fact, they think the emphasis on the Palestinians is a ploy to subjugate their own people.

Steve - NJ

"... steve, I think you'd be wrong on that. The Iranian people do not share their Arab neighbors hatred of Israel. ..."

The Iranian people went nuts for Khomeini. To this day the mullahs appear to have broad support. Admittedly I know little of Iran. But an active opposition to Israel sure appears to be a central plank of the regime.

narciso

As was the Russian Czars in the 1880s, the Sauds at any time since the 30s, the Syrian and Iraqi Baathists around that same time

pagar

Narcisco, are you saying something doesn't check out on the Yampa Bay story?

Thomas Collins

No superior knowledge claim on my part, anduril (at least with respect to the Middle East and the spelling of knowledgeable).

narciso

No, I meant don't dismiss it because it comes from Riehl, It's in keeping with Greer's prior
behavior, and it explains in part how Florida
was lost in 2008

clarice

It's an active plank of a regime that is detested by the majority of its citizens.

Danube of Thought

What was the last public utterance from Al Gore?

pagar

Thanks, Narciso! I had read the Tampa Bay story and couldn't see how they could have been very far off base.

DOT, I suspect Al Gore is in 24/7 conference with his lawyers, trying to figure out how to keep his ill gotten gains, now that AGW has been shown to be a fraud. My guess is Charles Martin already has received several hot tips on where the money is.

Jane

Dot,

I mentioned you on the radio today - not by name, but I was interviewing the republican candidate for the 2nd Congressional District and we were talking about social security so I repeated what you said a few days ago.

Ignatz

--To this day the mullahs appear to have broad support.--

Most despots appear to, shortly before they are hanging from lamp posts.

anduril

clarice--voice of the Iranian people. Please.

boris

f****** r*****

anduril

you might find that you are more persuasive than you already are ... if you stayed away from the snarky comments and considered the possibility that those engaging with you might be as knowledgable or more so than you

This strikes me as a typically liberal tactic: the call to civility, which always works one way only. Or, the unilateral concessions gambit: we'll engage with you, if you first admit that you don't know any more than anyone else, or maybe even less, and agree with our claim that we know as much as or more than you. It's a bit like, come to the WH and for a free and open discussion of all the best ideas on health care--starting form our presuppositions.

anduril

boris, did you leave the punctuation out of your exceptionally commentary? if people are going to communicate using asterisks, punctuation might clarify some of the obscurity. "?, or: !, or ."

anduril

I meant to say "exceptionally witty commentary". Communication is also aided by inserting all the words necessary to complete a thought.

boris

: ? @ . ;

Mike Giles

I think Murtha will have a Marine Honor Guard. He was a Marine when the bullets were flying, that counts for more then a lot of later life screw ups.

As for the Christian Right, they probably wouldn't be "pushing" their beliefs if the left wasn't so dead set on pushing theirs down every ones throat. As I see it, most of the Christian Rights agenda is defensive.

sbw

Why did she focus so much on foreign policy and winning the war in Afg?

I thought they asked Sarah Palin to speak, not a mirror.

Steve - NJ

"...I thought they asked Sarah Palin to speak, not a mirror. ..."

I don't follow. Palin spoke to the TP convention like it was a gathering of republicans. People attend tea party gatherings because they are alarmed at the spending and deficit. Republicans want to lower taxes to grow the economy. That will raise the deficit even more over the short term. Candidates like Scott Brown have nothing specific to say about cutting spending. The Tea Party is not the republican party.


narciso

Because that is one of the strict obligations provided for in the constitution, provide for
the common defense

JM Hanes

boris:

"Reagan was a cult ... Sarah is a cult ... Scott is a cult ... just like Obama. Okay we get it."

I don't know what station you're tuning in, but you clearly didn't get my message.

Reagan and Palin hardly fall into the category of charismatic figures with naught but an election victory to their names. The grooming of John Edwards, on the other hand, began shortly after he walked into the Senate; we were lucky to dodge that bullet. Scott Brown may turn out to have super skilz; I was suggesting that it would be a good idea to find out before folks start talking Prez 2012. YMMV.

Thomas Collins

I was raised to attempt to treat everyone civilly, anduril, even those with whom I have strong disagreements. I was also raised to engage in a conversation with the view that I could always learn something, even from those with whom I disagreed. I never thought of it as a liberal or conservative or moderate tactic.

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