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March 05, 2010

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Is that a street or a business?

Come what may, I'll surely say
I did it the Chicago Way.
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Thomas Collins

Obama is clearly going to apply any pressure he can and make any payoffs he can to get ObamaCare passed. Payoffs in politics happen all the time without the payors and payees getting indicted. As long as satchels of cash aren't involved, there is likely to be no legal cost to the payoffs that will facilitate the enactment of ObamaCare. As far as the political cost, I think that the progs believe that, whatever happens in the 2010 mid terms, ObamaCare will go far enough in turning us into a Eurostate that the short term losses will be worth it.

The Obama Machine, which gets sealed divorce records exposed to accomplish its goals, certainly is not going to have any compunctions about trading a few federal judicial appointments for votes.

Elections have consequences. In 2008, we elected a POTUS and Congress the center of gravity of which is the goal to complete the process of turning America away from being the nation of the Declaration and toward being the nation of the bureaucratic nanny. ObamaCare is a key component in this turning, and Reid, Pelosi and Obama are not going to be stopped by technical rules on budget reconciliation or worries about appearing tawdry (especially since the sclerotic but still influential MSM will not focus on the tawdry aspects of this process).

rse

Are you sure "or" is correct?

Let's go with crooked AND politically tone deaf.

Let's not forget that unique way to purchase a luxury home you cannot yet afford.

Also great Andy McCarthy swipe at Lindsey Graham and his plan to take away the REps winning hands.

LUN

MikeS

This poor Dem didn't realize the meeting was about paygo. He thought the President was pleading for votes on health care.

"The president very pointedly talked about how important this is historically," said Democratic Rep. Raul Grijalva, "how he needs our help." Obama told them that "'this is an opportunity, it'll give us momentum"' on other issues, the congressman said.

MayBee

It seems to me the whole US Attorneys bru ha ha got started because someone thought the timing of the firing looked suspicious.

Bush should have just said people's complaints were silly and moved on.

Thomas Collins

I couldn't get the Andy McCarthy piece from clicking rse's LUN. If others are having the same problem, I am LUNing it again.

bgates

Just how were they supposed to establish the veracity of the claim without an investigation

It was an action undertaken by Obama, thus it was pure. Remember "sin" is defined as "not acting in harmony with Obama's beliefs".

the reception Wednesday had long been scheduled by Obama to thank members of Congress who had fought for pay-as-you-go rules on federal legislation

Jim Bunning, Guest of Honor.

BobDenver

I remember the good old days, way back in . . . December, when Nancy told her troops that they had fought the good fight, and that their work was done.

“The Speaker has told members in meetings that we’ve done our jobs,” a Democratic leadership aide said. “And that next year the Senate’s going to have to prove what it can accomplish before we go sticking our necks out any further.”

And now she's right back to twisting various body parts to pass the hated Senate bill, because Senator Conrad says it has to be that way? Never mind the distrust between House Dems and Senate Dems -- Nancy's the one with the knife at their backs.

Old Lurker

1. Well, yes...

2. I thought satchels of cash were OK still so long as a) you are a Dem, b)you accept it in your congressional office, and c)you move it then to your freezer at home.

Porchlight

Remember "sin" is defined as "not acting in harmony with Obama's beliefs".

Ah, I'd forgotten about that very revealing interview.

From that description, one wonders if it is himself Obama seeks to emulate. Asked by Falsani to define sin, Obama replied: "Being out of alignment with my values." Asked to define when he is most centered and aligned spiritually, he answered: "I think I've already described it. It's when I'm being true to myself."

But he doesn't have a Messiah complex or anything.

Thomas Collins

LOL, OL! Bob Denver, Pelosi knows she is likely to lose her speakership, so she need not hold any knives in reserve.

Ignatz

--Asked by Falsani to define sin, Obama replied: "Being out of alignment with my values."--

Had forgotten that beauty myself, porch.
So either Barry believes we each get to define sin as things contrary to our own values, which hardly seems likely given his position as nanny-in-chief, or he really does have a Messiah complex.
One thing is certain, no real Christian would have given that answer.

pagar

" pay-as-you-go rules on federal legislation" have no more meaning than the info investors got from Mr Madoff. Mr. Madoff will spend his life in jail. Senators and Reps who put out this garbage will be allowed to remain in their jobs as long as they can find enough fools to believe that passing expensive bills that do not include pay as you go cuts is OK because liberals can always find more fools.

pagar

From the LUN Thomas Collins posted at 10.25AM

All anyone needs to know about the Obama Administration and the Republicans who support them in achieving their goals.

"In reality, it will be a defeat for national defense."

MikeS

As Obama gets closer to the deciding vote, bribes are likely to get bigger. Instead of a judgeship or $300 million, the last guy will probably get North Dakota.

Porchlight

One thing is certain, no real Christian would have given that answer.

Yes, or many of the other answers he gave. I don't fault him at all for not being a Christian, I just don't like his obvious lies about it.

bgates

no real Christian would have given that answer.

Sin is the state of being out of alignment with the values of Christianity.

My values are the values of Christianity.

Therefore, ____.

I bet you could find somebody in Christendom to fill in that blank.

Not that I think Obama is somebody in Christendom.

centralcal

This is completely off topic and is mainly for Janet's amusement and enjoyment (both of us constantly railing against the bia of the media):

Craig Crawford (CQ), long time political analyst on MSNBC has quit the network. A sample of comments he made on his own blog:

i simply could not any longer endure being a cartoon player for lefty games, just gotta move on to higher ground even if there's no oxygen
i have never and never will forgive Chris for calling me a racist after the West Virginia primary (the last time I will ever go on air with him). Probably should have resigned then and there, but better late than never.

Guess he is going to formally announce this on Fox & Friends next Monday morning.

LOL.

centralcal

bia=bias

Ignatz

--Sin is the state of being out of alignment with the values of Christianity.

My values are the values of Christianity.

Therefore, ____.

I bet you could find somebody in Christendom to fill in that blank.--

Perhaps, but I have yet to meet the Christian who would define sin as he did, especially since the unspoken logic which you present was precisely that; unspoken.
Occam directs me to my point, which is that statement, among others, indicates Barry is a liar when representing his faith as Christian.
It may be nominally Christian in that Barry is willing to accede there is room within the godhead for both he and Christ, but it would seem to be a slightly less than orthodox faith.
If trinity is the word for a triune God what would be the word for a quatrune one? Quatrity? Qwertyuiopity? Barry Soetoro and the Pips?

MarkO

Aren't these cats wonderfully nuanced?

macphisto

if it wasn't for the race-towards-trainwrecking-the-US thing, this whole process would be more entertaining than a years' worth of the Military Channel or Micheal Schumacher's comeback.

macphisto

MichAEl. oy.

MayBee

Just remember that if Blago hadn't been wiretapped, we would have been hearing how natural it was for Valerie Jarrett to be named Senator to replace Obama.

macphisto

"Barry Soetoro and the Pips?"

Sauron and the Morons.

Rob Crawford

One thing is certain, no real Christian would have given that answer.

No real Christian could spend 20 years listening to the hate-filled rants of "Rev." Wright.

Old Lurker

"I bet you could find somebody in Christendom to fill in that blank."

bgates, I can introduce you to some Episcopal Bishops who would struggle to fill in that blank.

John Bibb

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Surprise! Surprize! This has been the way of American Politics since the Civil War.
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The judge candidate from Utah does seem to have a good legal background and good experience. Most of Comrade Obama's picks are far less qualified.
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However, like the old Roman lady said, "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion!"
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Rocketman
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MikeS

I think deception has been a more productive vote getter for the President than bribery.

Recall that many Dems voted for a virtually unread bill based on assurances that it would cut the deficit, reduce insurance premiums, and bend the cost curve down. None of those turned out to be true.

Now the Pres. tells them they've already paid the political price for voting for HCR the first time and there will be no forgiveness if they change their vote.

Danube of Thought

The more I see of Bart Stupak, the less comfortable I am with having only him and his dozen cohorts standing between us and this mega-disaster. My guess as of this morning is that it's going to pass.

Clarice

Matheson can clear this up in a minute--announce he'll vote no on the Senate bill and NOTHING will change his mind.

MikeS

My guess as of this morning is that it's going to pass.

I'm afraid you may be right DoT, unless the rifts in the Dem party can be exploited in a way that provides cover for Dems who peel off HCR. Stupak's group has an excuse. Other Dems have mentioned fiscal responsibility as a motivating factor.

Today Orzag is defending the bill in a WaPo piece. Which suggests to me our side ought to be attacking it on those grounds. Pitting Ryan versus Orzag, who invented the accounting tricks used to argue for this bill, is a winner for us.

Old Lurker

Welcome aboard, DoT. We have to buy drinks for JOM if it does not pass.

Hanging hope on the Stupak crowd, the Blue Dogs, the ability to gum up the Fixit Bill, distrust between the Houses, or just on the public polls...are not enough to stop it.

Porchlight

I share the unease, but if it's inevitable I don't understand why the House wouldn't have passed it already. They've had since December (or since their return post-Christmas). Is the WH more persuasive now than it was then? Are the chances of re-election getting any better?

Old Lurker

"I don't understand why the House wouldn't have passed it already"

It takes time to negotiate the price for each holdout, and the holdouts need to jockey to be last because the last YES is worth big big bucks.

Jane

I love how more and more is being written about how Obama is a clueless pawn of Reid and Pelosi. The picture is being painted of a cowering man completely overwhelmed.

The juxtaposition of the cocky guy we see running up the stairs of his plane is quite amazing. I wonder how long the media can hold out.

Danube of Thought

"I share the unease, but if it's inevitable I don't understand why the House wouldn't have passed it already."

They haven't yet faced the full extent of the bribery, blackmail, threats and coercion that can and will be brought to bear. The only "no" voters I trust are the ones who oppose the thing on principles firmer than the arcane wording of a provision about abortion funding.

Porchlight

Can holding out for bribes really be the only reason, though? Look at what's happened to Ben Nelson since he negotiated the Kickback. You first have to decide that you don't care about re-election before you go through with that strategy. And even then there's no guarantee that the WH will do anything for you.

Even Blanche Lincoln appears to still be fighting for her seat.

I think a whole lot of people want to stay in their jobs and that's a good chunk of the reason why they haven't walked the plank yet.

Cowboy Steve

I have to question the extent of the coercive power of Toonces and Pelosi over an individual House member.

If you're a Rep. looking at a probable electoral wipeout a no vote on this could be the only chance you have of remaining politically viable.

How much revenge could Obama or Pelosi extract from you if the House flips in November, not everyone has an aspiring judge in the family.

Stephanie

" not everyone has an aspiring judge in the family."

How many of them have photocopied FBI files in Rahm's office?

MikeS

...this could be the only chance you have of remaining politically viable.

I agree, but their leadership argues that since they've already angered moderate and conservative constituents by voting for HCR, all flipping will do is anger the liberals who are the balance of their constituents.

MayBee

Politico has a quote from Jesse Jackson Jr, saying Obama's successful isn't his concern.

Cowboy Steve

all flipping will do is anger the liberals who are the balance of their constituents.

They may argue that, but here in Massachusetts Marsha Coakley got 100% of the liberal vote and still lost.

If the liberal base can't save you in Mass, it can't save you anywhere.

Clarice

Jesse hates Obama..

Janet

How many of them have photocopied FBI files in Rahm's office?

That is what I tend to think too Stephanie.

MikeS

If the liberal base can't save you in Mass, it can't save you anywhere.

Great point! I'd love to have a bumper sticker that says that.

Jane

While we are eagerly awaiting the Daddy-Cecil recap, Daddy's latest travelogue is up at You Too.

Janet

I just sent Jim Moran another email begging him to oppose the health care bill. There is 5 minutes of my life wasted!

maryrose

I agree that those that stand on principle like Kucinich- no public option are the strongest no votes. Why not just vote today? After all didn't Obama himself say the time for talking is over? Repubs should demand a vote now , then watch the dems squirm because they in fact do not have the votes.This new bill is a delaying tactic because they still don't have the votes.They keep changing deadlines to throw people off balance. This whole thing is a travesty. i like the repub strategy of bleeding them dry with the Byrd rule.

Stephanie

Janet, speaking of which...

Obama is going to be on America's Most Wanted this weekend.

No word on whether he'll be in his Camp David leisure attire - wife beater and mom jeans.

Or if Moochelle makes a cameo in spandex and peek a boo bra.

BTW, is there any truth to the rumors that the White House has been measured for wheels and a hitch?

Jane

Cowboy Steve,

The liberalist of the MA liberals were not Coakley fans. They wanted Capuano. Of course that doesn't mean they didn't vote for her, but I bet they were not highly motivated.

Still I agree with you.

Porchlight

I agree, but their leadership argues that since they've already angered moderate and conservative constituents by voting for HCR, all flipping will do is anger the liberals who are the balance of their constituents.

Yes, but that's a fairly recent argument, and I think it's from hunger because it's essentially an admission that a yes vote is electoral poison. The frontline Dems have to know they'll be a hero to R's and independents if they flip to know or vote no again, and that could be enough to carry them through in their reddish-purple districts. And Dems in seats previously considered safe have the Scott Brown example to ponder.

Porchlight

flip to know = flip to no, sorry

Cowboy Steve

Jane,

I know the libs loved Capuano, the BDS poster-boy, I'm surrounded by them.

I'm not sure that the reason Coakley wasn't completely blown out was because of the lefty vote, I don't know for a fact that's the case but I like to think so, because it means more sad liberals.

And I like that.

Carol Herman

Step back a moment. The Matheson family is a DYNASTY! People in Utah know this! Their father was governor of Utah. So, what you see is a family name getting the "Chappaquiddick." For a quick ride in an old Oldsmobile. Off the bridge. I don't care if you don't think so. I know that this Matheson character just got to feel "some sort of jolt." Not on par with 'wonderful name recognition, ya know? Not that I expect the republicans, who are in such a minority in da' House, to do much. But it still STINKS. Imagine the stench in Utah!

Danube of Thought

"Why not just vote today?"

Dick Morris (yeah, I know) said last night there'll be a vote before the end of next week.

Jane

I know the libs loved Capuano, the BDS poster-boy, I'm surrounded by them.

You poor poor thing.

Janet

- wife beater and mom jeans.

Hey, that's MY stylish look...usually with some flannel shirt "draped" over my shoulders for an elegant touch. It is why I don't feel right giving Mrs. O a hard time about her fashions.....except that cake dress and the gazillion dollar half-made shoes.

bgates

OT - Name That Party, Alabama Edition:
Former Birmingham Mayor Gets 15 Years For Bribery.

It's apparently a nonpartisan position; at least, no political affiliation is mentioned (for him - the article does describe "Blount, the former state Democratic Party chairman" and "LaPierre, the former executive director of the state Democratic Party", both also sentenced in the case).

Janet

A cobbler's scam...half-made shoes -

daddy

Well,

That was fun!

Was at a window-front bar stool yesterday at 5 PM at Humpy's, waiting for Cecil. Couple inches of snow on the ground, clear skies, 25 degree's---nice sweatshirt weather.

Never having met him, I had the Laptop set up and tuned to our famous JOM home page with green border, plus a sign taped to the table, "JOM---Cecil."

Ordered an Ice Tea for starters, (since I was driving) and a plate of bacon wrapped scallops as appetizers. Moments later, up steps Cecil---excellent looking healthy and handsome guy, big smile, full head of hair, way better looking than me as normal. He carried himself with the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete. One good handshake later Cecil sets down and we start jabbering like the old friends we are. Very much fun.

Now steps up the waitress. Stunningly good looking girl. Long blonde tresses, great smile, magnificent figure. A Jessica Simpson with less teeth. She carried herself with the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete! Cecil ordered something. I can't remember what, but I sure enjoyed watching her recite the beer menu. Anyhow, I asked for an ESB. Cecil, since he was staying at a nearby hotel and didn't have to worry about drunk driving, didn't have the pressure on him which I did to make my only beer selection for the evening the absolutely correct 1. Much like a well run private Health Care program, he had options---and did I mention the waitress did a fetching job of listing those options? Well she did. And wisely exhibiting that good common sense we've all come to know and love from him, he accepted her recommendation of a local light ale.

Back we go to enjoyably jabbering about this and that, when up steps our yummy waitress in her tight, white topped, form-fitting T-shirt, with our 2 brews and a magnificent steaming plate of wonderfully cooked large scallops wrapped in bacon. Hog Heaven! Cecil, again exhibiting that good sense we've all come to expect, wisely has her linger a bit and elaborate on the various items on the menus. Gorgeous complexion, skin tight jeans, a young Sarah Palin with long blond locks. The Marine Corps Motto, "Go Ugly Early", was no where in evidence at our table last evening I can tell you. She enticingly sashayed away from our table with the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete, and our 2 orders for beer battered halibut chunks.

Back to fun chit-chat; Sarah Palin, terrorist rendition, Cecil's experiences as a former competitive Dog Team Musher...the usual JOM stuff.

Up steps our svelte barmaid with 2 steaming plates of perfectly seasoned Hallibut chunks which, I might add, she carried to the table with the poise and confidence of a seasoning athlete. I'm still nursing my ESB, but Cecil wisely gets a new recitation from the fetchingly lovely lass, and as he downs the first one, he again takes her recommendation for an ale with a slightly stronger bite. Glug, glug, glug...Ahhhh! We watch her exit from the 6 o'clock position, and start talking about something else. I forget what.

Hallibut goes down well and Cecil is obviously relieved when I mention that I've got a full, icy-cold "Growler bottle" (4 pints worth) outside in my truck, which I've previously had filled up with Moose's Tooth ESB, which I'll get to after driving home. He is pleased about this, and it is good to see his obvious compassion and concern for a fellow JOMer, all of which fits in with his posting nature that we've all come to know and love. An unexpected round 3 recitation of suggested brews follows, just as enjoyable if not more so, than the first two. If she could just recite that list of beverages with equal aplomb in an evening gown at the MIss America Pageant, I've no doubt she'd win the contest hands down, whether she favored gay marriage or no. No offense taken that it interrupted our discussion of the solution to California's budget woes. We big boys handled that in stride. A pint of local stout was the result, and I believe it was CT's favorite of the evening. This carried us through a delightful round of considering our lovely waitresses healthcare asets, as checks were delivered and our empty plates were voluptuously collected and whisked away with the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete.

We nattered our final goodbyes, lots' a fun, final hand shakes, lets do it again stuff, and departed. It really was a very fun time. Then I limped out to the truck with the poise and confidence of a beaten up old athlete with a big beer belly and a bum knee. A very good time. Cheers.



PS, Matt, am flexible and available on the the 23rd to do the same thing, though I can't promise the same waitress. Am gone on the 24th.

Old Lurker

I see Dick Morris interviewed at Newsmax...I won't LUN it since I read it for you....thinks Pelosi does already have the votes and that is why they are going for the whole shebang, while the Reps chase the red herring of reconciliation.

Also Robert Byrd wrote the Charleston WV newspaper that he believes the bill has been debated according to the Senate rules and approved by a supermajority, and that the Fixit Bill conforms with his idea of Reconciliation and "The Byrd Rule".

Jane

Geez Daddy we know more about the waitress now than you and Cecil (and a fine woman she appears to be).

It sounds like a blast!

Porchlight

Well, contra Dick Morris, here's a new-ish wrinkle, from the Daily Caller via Hot Air:

Chances for a health-care bill grew dimmer on Thursday, by most indications, but House Democrats may have found a way to force the Senate to work with them that would remove a key roadblock to passing the reform desired by President Obama.

Call it a “hold-plus-reconciliation” strategy.

The House could pass the Senate bill as is, then hold it in their chamber instead of sending it to the president so he could sign it into law. That bill, passed but not out of the House’s hands, would be the leverage to bring the Senate to the table.


Porchlight

daddy, I'm glad you and Cecil had a good time! Thanks for reporting back - I always love hearing about JOMers meeting in real life...

Elliott

Porchlight,

I suspect that some of the wavering Democrats will conclude that, should they lose in November, they'll have an easier time finding a new sinecure job with an affirmative vote on the resume.

DrJ

I always love hearing about JOMers meeting in real life.

Shh! Don't tell Sylvia! She still thinks Hit is a potential axe murderer. This is all part of an elaborate cover up.

Clarice

I value Jay Cost's analyses over Dick Morris'--He still is saying the Dems have "a tough sell"
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/05/about-the-pentagon-shooter/

Clarice

Wrong link--Here's the correct one

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2010/03/counting_the_heads_of_house_de.html

Clarice

DAMN!

LUN

Porchlight

Ah, I hadn't thought of it that way, Elliott.

pagar

If the future of a bill depends on a vote from Sen Byrd, I would not think you wanted to wait too long to hold the vote.

Janet

What a poised and confident recap! I love to hear about JOMers meeting too.

smokedsalmoned

Judgeships For Healthcare

      The healthcare bill that made it out of the Senate appears to be the model for Obama's revised health care plan offer and that should make us happy?   Under that bill, Nebraska will never have to pay for Medicare and then again there are the Florida, Louisiana and other bribes, er I mean deals that had to be made to sweeten the deals to sell this not to the Republicans but to the Democrats.  Obama promises that he will remove those deals from his version of the bill sound good but recent actions scream otherwise.
On March 3, 2010 President Obama had ten House Democrats who voted against health care in November over to the white house in an effort to persuade them to switch their votes to yes. One of them was Jim Matheson of Utah. Earlier that day, President Obama nominated Matheson's brother Scott M. Matheson Jr. to the US Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. The timing is so extremely bad that we can only wonder at the audacity of the deal.
The deals need that were originally made involving the Senate bill should be investigated thoroughly. The citizens of this country should strongly consider recalling all 60 senators who voted for that bill given the increased costs they would have pushed on to the rest of us. As to the judgeship deal, citizens must call their congressmen and the news media and demand a special investigation into this latest deal.
     

BobDenver

"Hold plus reconciliation" is a BIG problem if it's allowed under Congressional procedures, because Pelosi can persuade the House Dems that she won't do anything with a passed Senate bill unless and until the reconciliation amendments pass. However, if reconciliation fails, there is nothing to keep the Senate bill from becoming law except the signatures of Pelosi, Biden (as Senate President) and Obama.

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

Thanks for the Cost link. I hope others take a look at a reasonably close, detailed analysis rather than the fog being generated by both sides. I disagree with Cost re Kosmas. After BOzo's Canaveral cuts I don't believe she will be very persuadable at all.

Clarice

I love elliott but I think he's wrong. A fair number of the losing congressmen will want to stay in Washington and work as *hiss, boo* lobbyists or get jobs at wonk tanks, etc...If they pull this stunt how marketable will they be given a Republican Congress?

Money talks, B.S. walks.

Janet

MikeS @ 11:29 hit the nail on the head -

As Obama gets closer to the deciding vote, bribes are likely to get bigger. Instead of a judgeship or $300 million, the last guy will probably get North Dakota.

LUN The Fed. seizes over 10 million acres.

Old Lurker

"Shh! Don't tell Sylvia! She still thinks Hit is a potential axe murderer."

Ha! I had forgotten about that lecture we got from her.

Stephanie

Hold plus reconciliation

so Pelosi could hold the bill for how long?

If I were an enterprising Republican on the hill (few and far between, I know) I would announce TODAY my intent to file suit at that point to force the bill to the president's desk scaring those who might bite on this plan (Stupak etal); otherwise, in the next congress, Pelosi might simply hold the bill and suddenly declare it law under the 10 day rule never having reached the point of a presidential up or down vote.

The constitution seems to leave the process in flux allowing changes by parliamentary procedures w/o regard to subversion.

Wouldn't put it past her - wouldn't be... prudent.

Of course, announcing intent to force the vote to the president's desk is rather like Br'er Rabbit and the Briar Patch. It puts the senate version into law if it happens - by Republican hands.

I just love games of chicken... sucks to be riding in the car, though.

Old Lurker

Ditto thanks for the Cost link. I'm still washing my hands after reading Morris.

Jane

Morris rarely gets anything right. I thought Cost was very good as well.

michael

eric massa is leaving Monday. Another bites the dust

Jack is Back!

Everyone is forgetting - Chicago.

Intimidation, offers too good to refuse, Pay-to-Play, strong arm, you bring a knife- we bring a gun to the fight, slanderous innuendo and rumor about your secret sex life, photoshop of you with little boys or girls, debts called in and now owned by the thugs themselves, bought and paid for politics.

The pressure is on. Saul is pulling all the levers. All the proverbial black bags are packed full. The knives are sharpened. News hacks on the payroll are standing by with the juiciest morsels of depravity you thought no one remembered. Wives are hearing things about you. This is Chicago, baby. Not Des Moines, Seattle, Birmingham or Worcester. This is life in the sewer. Get used to it or leave.

/Rahm (leaving soon to run for Senate)

Stephanie

Rereading what I just wrote, why on earth have a president at all after that (Pelosi forcing a bill into law by sitting on it)?

Obama = figurehead

He may end up being the biggest rube of all with us paying for his dates til the end of time...

Clarice

This is a rough place but it is not yet Chicago and those kinds of tactics can easily backfire. Think about it--How much more can they give out than they already have and the holdouts are apparently unhappy with the existing offers.Maybe a few more pictures showing how Ben Nelson became a pariah at home might be useful.

Jane

The dems just lost another one: Massa To Resign

Jane

Sorry Michael, I should have refreshed before I posted.

Porchlight

Does anyone have a count on the number of Dem retirements and resignations? Surely we are higher than the 1994 number at this point in the cycle...

Stephanie

With every dem resignation, the numbers that Pelosi needs are diminished aren't they?

She needs less yes votes today than yesterday, right? Isn't that why Nathan Deal is staying til the bill is really most sincerely dead?

Which way did Massa vote last time?

daddy

"--Sin is the state of being out of alignment with the values of Christianity.

My values are the values of Christianity.

Therefore, ____....that is why, ">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3328024.ece"> as the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Highest Ecclesiastic in The Church of England, I recommend we adopt Sharia Law in Britain.

No need to waste time with small fry Episcopal Bishops.

Stephanie

Y'all have seen the pic Malkin put up on the Holder thread this morning haven't ya?

LUN

matt

and did daddy mention the waitress had the poise and confidence of a seasoned athlete?

I really do think El Lider's strategy is to baffle them with bullshit. There's more confusion it seems that "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World", and unfortunately more truth to that description that one would prefer.

I'll bet he has a stenographer right behind him keeping track of the lies and bribes.Every day in Washington is Christmas.

The dishonesty of these scumbuckets is almost beyond description.

daddy, I get in the afternoon of the 22nd. Will firm the schedule up early next week.

Cowboy Steve

Stephanie

Yikes!

Obamafungus!

Stephanie

Matt, should Daddy check the waitress' duty schedule, too? Might help to umm.. firm up the event.

//ducks. It's Friday and it's not snowing/freezing. I plead spring fever...

Ignatz

--I see Dick Morris interviewed at Newsmax....thinks Pelosi does already have the votes.....--

JOMers, things are looking brighter re OL, TC and apparently now DoT, buying us all a drink when this thing goes down in flames.
Morris is about as relaible a contra-indicator as Algore at a picnic or Barry at a reelection campaign event.

Stephanie

From the comments at Ace's:

Eric Massa voted 'no' last time for political cover, and was more than likely going to vote 'yes' this time (he was named one of the Democrats they were pursuing.)

So, I believe it will take a 'yes' vote away from them... BUT... it will also lower the vote requirement back down to 216.

So, he was originally a no vote. Those FBI files sure are getting dog eared.

Jane

Altho the word is the dems were pressuring him to leave (I forget where I saw that) and I doubt that would happen if they thought he would vote "yes".

It's gotta be a big deal for a dem to leave for a gay sex scandal. That's a drop in the bucket for them.

Sue

I loved reading about Cecil and daddy's big adventure. And I'm glad they had a well seasoned...Halibut.

Clarice

I agree,ignatz.
About those resignations making Nancy's job a bit easier--maybe we should start a campaign to get them all to leave..She's dumb enough to fall fro that

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