The NY Times has a story on the same toic as my endless post below, namely, does the new health care reform actually assure that all children with re-existing conditions can not be denied coverage?
I said that the answer is no (insurers can still deny coverage outright), that the text of the bill is clear, that this does not lend itself to a regulatory solution but will require new legislation, and that the confusion has been driven by people, especially Barack Obama, who are hung up on speaking English rather than Insurance-ese.
The Times provides a new direction - apparently insurance company legal eagles agree with me that they can still deny coverage, but now Congressman are focusing on their new ESP legislative approach - the bill means what they thought it meant and wanted to it to mean, not what they wrote:
The authors of the law say they meant to ban all forms of discrimination against children with pre-existing conditions like asthma, diabetes, birth defects, orthopedic problems, leukemia, cystic fibrosis and sickle cell disease. The goal, they say, was to provide those youngsters with access to insurance and to a full range of benefits once they are in a health plan.
If you read my long post you will realize the absurdity of that claim. Just for starters, "pre-existing condition exclusion" has a statutory definition in each state and in the Public Health Service Act; it doesn't just mean whatever some committee member thinks it means.
The new bill had four sections which collectively provided protections for people with pre-existing conditions starting in 2014. These sections included Sec. 2702, which requires insurers to issue to anyone in their region; Sec. 2703, which obliges insurers not to restrict renewals; Sec. 2704, which bars "pre-existing condition exclusions such as "we will cover everything except bills related to your ongoing cardiac condition", and Sec. 2705, which requires fair pricing (no awards for the healthy or surcharges for the sick). All these sections are effective in 2014.
But even though all four sections are needed to provide full protection for people with pre-existing conditions, Congress only moved up the effective date of Sec. 2704 to 2010, for children under 19. That is hardly meaningless, since lots of kids are enrolled under their parent's employer group plans and subject to HIPAA exclusion periods as long as 18 months.
But accelerating only Sec. 2704 could never have been mistaken for a comprehensive attempt to protect all children, including the children of the self-employed. Either Congress needs to learn to write bills (possible) or they need to admit that this was not an error; their hype got ahead of reality.
I think Dems will prefer to blame Evil Insurance Companies rather than admit that they have gotten trapped by Obama's over-selling of the bill.
For a smidgen of history, here is a Senate bill, the Children's Health Protection Act of 2009 (S643), offered a year ago by Senator Lautenberg and others. It bars pre-existing condition exclusions in the group and individual market but does not include a must-issue provision, a must-renew provision, or anything about fair pricing. What is his goal? Let's ask the Senator:
Approximately 20 percent of school-aged children suffer from a chronic disease including cancer, diabetes, asthma and heart disease. These chronic diseases are frequently considered pre-existing conditions for the purposes of health insurance coverage. The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 limited when insurance companies could deny children health coverage due to a pre-existing condition. However, a loophole in the law permits an insurance company to limit coverage to a child who goes without health coverage for more than 63 days.
The Children’s Health Protection Act of 2009 will close that loophole and prohibit insurers from imposing pre-existing condition limitations on children under the age of 25. This bill is aimed at helping the nine million American children who are uninsured obtain the insurance they need to ensure prompt treatment for their chronic conditions. In addition, it would potentially help millions of children who are at risk for becoming uninsured if their parents lose their job and health insurance in this economic crisis.
So he was going to close a HIPAA loophole. But of course, lots of people who lack insurance for themselves or their kids are not covered by HIPAA.
Lautenberg had originally considered "children" to be anyone under 25; his concept was adopted into the larger reform just passed, with the age reduced to 19:
Provisions that Sen. Lautenberg inserted in the legislation will help make health care more affordable in high cost of living states such as New Jersey and more widely available to children with pre-existing conditions throughout the country.
Sen. Lautenberg’s “cost of living” amendment will require the Administration to assess a cost of living adjustment to help ensure fair health care subsidy levels for high cost of living states such as New Jersey. Another provision that Sen. Lautenberg fought to include in the bill will eliminate pre-existing condition exclusions for children under the age of 19. The provision aims to help some of the nine million uninsured American children obtain the insurance they need to gain access to prompt treatment for their chronic conditions.
Earlier this year, Lautenberg introduced the Children’s Health Protection Act (S. 643) to address this issue. An estimated twenty percent of school-aged children suffer from a chronic disease such as diabetes or cancer. These chronic diseases are frequently considered pre-existing conditions for the purposes of health insurance coverage. Currently, insurance companies can deny or limit coverage to children with pre-existing conditions if their family has been without health insurance coverage for more than two months.
That is where this provision came from. It never included "Must Issue" or "Must Renew", but did enhance HIPAA a bit. For Dems to pretend otherwise at this late date is disgraceful, but predictable.
FWIW: Last December when the Dems were taking up the manager's amendment which incorporated this "pre-existing conditions exclusion" fix it was not a Top Three selling point. Now the White House has it at number one, mainly because the White House is describing something not in the bill.
MY LATEST UNHOLY ALLIANCE: David Dayen of Firedoglake says this:
Guaranteed issue doesn’t mean a whole lot on its own without accompaniment with some form of community rating. Otherwise, the insurer can increase premiums to such a degree for the particular family that they wouldn’t be able to afford insurance without keeping the child off the policy.
Top Democrats may be outraged by the insurance industry’s intransigence, but nowhere in the law – to my knowledge – did they add any community rating language to cover this initial guaranteed issue for children. There is modified community rating for all along with guaranteed issue when the exchanges start up in 2014.
...The guaranteed issue for children provision came into the Affordable Care Act late in the game, and does not seem to have been well thought-out.
I dispute his characterization of the "no pre-existing condition exclusion" as guaranteed issue, and I think the concept did have a year-long history as the Lautenberg bill, but I like his point that the bill just doesn't say what it needs to say to get Dems where they claim to be.
IS EZRA KLEIN STILL DUCKING THIS? Last week in an on-line chat the WaPo's health care sage parroted the White House line:
New York, NY: Hi Ezra: I am an emergency physician in New York and have been following your reporting with great interest. Many of my patients are asking me about the future of "pre-existing conditions" and denial of coverage to children and adults due to various illnesses. Can you tell me when according to this legislation, insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage to children and adults with pre-existing conditions?!
Sincerely, Boris Markovich MD
Ezra Klein: Yep. For children, it's kicks in a couple of months from now. For adults, it's not until 2014.
Uh huh.
EZRA UPDATE: Ezra Klein steps up and steps away:
It looks like the Obama administration will issue some regulations saying that their view is that the language involves both access to insurance and the benefits kids get when they're insured, but it's not clear whether that'll matter (some experts think it will, but I'm skeptical, particularly if insurers want to evade it). Another option would be to pass another bill strengthening the benefit, though Republicans might filibuster that. The likeliest outcome, I think, is that this early deliverable -- like most of the early deliverables -- isn't worth much, and the bill really goes into effect in 2014.
I can summarize the expert opinion to which he links - it would be really great if insurers paid for these kids, there can't be many and it won't cost much, Congressional intent can be inferred from how they promoted the bill and not how they wrote it, so let's just go for it. Wow.
I especially love this:
Because §2704 is intertwined with §2702’s availability provisions as a result of the structure of §1201 (indeed, non-discrimination in coverage and benefits has meaning only in the context of insurance enrollment), §2704 as amended has meaning only in the context of enrollment. In other words, the advance protections given child enrollees under the PPAC have meaning only in the case of children who are in fact able to enroll in coverage. One thus sees in PPAC §10103 a clear Congressional intent that in the case of children, the Act’s non-discrimination protections become effective in their entirety within 6 months of the date of enactment.
Right. Set against that is that Congress has a specific provision for enrollment and they did not accelerate that to cover children in 2010. However, what they did accelerate is perfectly meaningful in the context of employer group insurance, where the parent cannot be turned down and the only question is to what length of HIPAA-type exclusion period might the child be subject.
As to Congressional intent, Sen. Lautenberg intended to close a HIPAA loophole, not solve the problems of people not covered by HIPAA.
When I vote for a law, it means just what I choose it to mean-- neither more nor less. The question is which is to be master -- that's all.
Reminds me of John Kerry's retroactive interpretation of the Iraq AUMF. How many legislators will end up having been for HCR before they were against it?
Posted by: Paul Zrimsek | March 29, 2010 at 02:08 PM
Point:
An estimated twenty percent of school-aged children suffer from a chronic disease such as diabetes or cancer.
CounterPoint:
In the United States in 2007, approximately 10,400 children under age 15 were diagnosed with cancer and about 1,545 children will die from the disease. Although this makes cancer the leading cause of death by disease among U.S. children 1 to 14 years of age, cancer is still relatively rare in this age group. On average, 1 to 2 children develop the disease each year for every 10,000 children in the United States.
...
The rate of new cases among youth was 19 per 100,000 each year for type 1 diabetes and 5.3 per 100,000 for type 2 diabetes.
2:10,000/year => 40:10,000 cancer cases for ages <20
2.43:10,000/year => 42:10,000 diabetes cases
So that's 0.4% cancer, 0.4% diabetes, and apparently 19.2% "such as".
Posted by: bgates | March 29, 2010 at 02:22 PM
"Sec. 2705, which requires fair pricing..."
'Fair' pricing? Fair to whom? Someone has to pay for the cost. The healthy will be overcharged and those with pre-existing conditions who never bought insurance will be undercharged.
What else is slated for "fair" treatment in the future? Well, it looks like housing is already there...don't make mortgage payments and get a reprieve from payments and/or your principal reduced. Maybe job pay is next. Everyone who works for the same company or industry gets paid exactly the same. It's only "fair".
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp | March 29, 2010 at 02:38 PM
Can't do math and can't read or write..Of course the Democratic Congress represents America..
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 02:38 PM
"Approximately 20 percent of school-aged children suffer from a chronic disease including cancer, diabetes, asthma and heart disease."
??
Posted by: MikeS | March 29, 2010 at 02:49 PM
Happy Birthday, PD!
Posted by: cathyf | March 29, 2010 at 03:01 PM
"and apparently 19.2% "such as"."
9.7% of children are asthmatic. I haven't found anything on the prevalence of childhood heart disease yet.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 29, 2010 at 03:05 PM
Didn't Nancy say we had to pass the bill in order to find out what it says. A woman of her word. The Democrats could use more like her.
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Posted by: And wait'll tax cheat Kathleen starts administering it. Trix are for kids. | March 29, 2010 at 03:17 PM
Happy Birthday, PD! I love all these March birthdays. Hope spring is springing in your part of the world...or will be soon...
Posted by: Porchlight | March 29, 2010 at 03:26 PM
Sen. Smalley doesn't know what's in the law, either. (It's not just a Bill anymore.)
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | March 29, 2010 at 03:29 PM
Gee Porch, we were hoping for a March b-day in your house too. What's the deal?
Posted by: Jane | March 29, 2010 at 03:32 PM
After a certain point, you have to conclude, yes, they are that stupid.
Posted by: Pofarmer | March 29, 2010 at 03:49 PM
It does reach a threshold, Po
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | March 29, 2010 at 03:50 PM
Didn't the left go nuts (yeah, I know redundant) when Victoria Toensing argued the intent behind the Intelligence Protection Act was not for people like Plame? They beat her up pretty good for making the argument that she knew what the intent of the law was.
Posted by: Sue | March 29, 2010 at 03:58 PM
I'm a procrastinator by nature, Jane. What can I say?
Let's hope not April 1 or April 15. Or Earth Day, whenever that is. That's all I ask.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 29, 2010 at 04:00 PM
Breaking News!!! The man that threatened Congressman Cantor and his family is Muslim and contributed $850 to Obama's campaign. What? It wasn't breaking news? I read it at http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2010/03/philadelphia-man-charged-with.html>JWF. A blog. Can you imagine the hoopla if someone was arrested for threatening a democrat that was christian and contributed to Palin?
Spread the word, I guess. Since MSM isn't going to do it.
Posted by: Sue | March 29, 2010 at 04:02 PM
Oh, my Lord, the irony...
Posted by: Sue | March 29, 2010 at 04:07 PM
Sue,
Comments indicate the site that story came from is satire. Warmists are that stupid though, so, hard to tell.
Posted by: Bill in AZ | March 29, 2010 at 04:11 PM
Really? I just saw it Ace's place.
Posted by: Sue | March 29, 2010 at 04:13 PM
Well, Ace has updated to say Whoops! Nevermind, though it has enough of a ring of truth to it that I fell for it. They do this stuff all the time. Like getting stuck in ice in the Arctic while filming the devastation of global warming.
Posted by: Sue | March 29, 2010 at 04:15 PM
Case in point - the Catlin team is wandering around the arctic again this year, averaging 1.7 miles per day. Should make the North Pole by September - 'cept for safety they need to be off the ice by May. Maybe if they hurry.
Posted by: Bill in AZ | March 29, 2010 at 04:15 PM
Close enough, recall that expedition that was trapped in the Arctic ice
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | March 29, 2010 at 04:15 PM
Gateway Pundit has the story too and hadn't corrected as of a few minutes ago, Sue.
Posted by: centralcal will not comply | March 29, 2010 at 04:21 PM
Are you certain that letter was not from (french horns) Dr. Boris Badinoff?
Hey, let's go to the doctor; it's free.
Posted by: MarkO | March 29, 2010 at 04:22 PM
It's a spoof. Roy Spencer's I believe. I wish he'd bring EcoEnquirer back.
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Posted by: It was hilarious, but gone for at least two years. | March 29, 2010 at 04:42 PM
Pilot Jimmy Dolittle was the giveaway. He trained for the raid near my home.
Posted by: scott | March 29, 2010 at 04:43 PM
I like the bear lover who was eaten (along with his girlfriend) by one of those bears he assured everyone was friendly but misunderstood.
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 04:46 PM
OT but they really have to find someone less tone deaf than MIchael Steele.
The NYT afternoon headline going out by email alert nationally is
"RNC Spends Thousands on Jets, Limos & Clubs"
We know the NYT hates profligate behavior.
Oh, just when it's Republicans?
Posted by: rse | March 29, 2010 at 04:47 PM
I'll be damned if I let the NYT decide who should had the RNC.
And let my eyes be blindfolded if I believe a word they say about their political opponents.
Listening to them about Steele is just like taking CNN's word about the tea party.
+++++
Reports that the new law will raise young people's premiums by 17%.
What if we persuaded them to donate that much to throw the Dems out and repeal the law?
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 05:14 PM
Reports that the new law will raise young people's premiums by 17%.
Does that also mean their parents' premiums will be raised if they're under 26 and still on their parents' plans?
Posted by: Porchlight | March 29, 2010 at 05:16 PM
BTW Narciso, thanks for the link to Jonah Goldberg on Buckley.
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 05:17 PM
"Listening to them about Steele is just like taking CNN's word about the tea party."
On some blog or other this weekend, I saw the following: "CNN has hundreds, possibly dozens, of viewers." LMAO when I saw it, because that is actually very close to being true and getting truer every day.
Posted by: centralcal will not comply | March 29, 2010 at 05:20 PM
testing
Posted by: sylvia | March 29, 2010 at 05:46 PM
In retrospect, the Jonathan Strong?? seriously
in the Daily Caller was a shot across the bow, who else would know about an entry on pg 1781 of an SEC filing, a remarkedly stupid
action, that kind of explains the status of
the Poizner campaign, "what is that, better
check the cables"
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | March 29, 2010 at 05:47 PM
Man, it ate my post. I was just saying I also thought the 20% number was too high. It's probably asthma and allergies, like peanut allergies, but probably a lot of those are mild.
And anytime you get sick, no matter what it is, it's considered a pre-condition. Like if you had the flu, you would not be coered for the flu again. Which is crazy.
Posted by: sylvia | March 29, 2010 at 05:49 PM
Tip of the day- if you have ants in your kitchen and want to kill them without poisons, use 91% rubbing alcohol and spray them. Safe and effective. Seems also to prevent them from coming back as well.
Posted by: sylvia | March 29, 2010 at 05:51 PM
"It looks like the Obama administration will issue some regulations saying that their view is.."
So this is how the law is now implemented? On someone's "view" instead of the language?
Isn't "viewing" the purview of the Judicial branch?
Posted by: drjohn | March 29, 2010 at 05:52 PM
Let's hope not April 1 or April 15. Or Earth Day,
Or Wednesday.
Posted by: Elliott | March 29, 2010 at 05:53 PM
Well Tom, you may be right. So my question is, what does it take to clear this up?
And also, who put in this sleazy language?
Posted by: sylvia | March 29, 2010 at 05:53 PM
Tip of the day- if you have ants in your kitchen and want to kill them without poisons, use 91% rubbing alcohol and spray them. Safe and effective. Seems also to prevent them from coming back as well.
Does this work on Trolls too?
Posted by: PDinDetroit | March 29, 2010 at 06:05 PM
Apparently not. You're still here.
Posted by: sylvia | March 29, 2010 at 06:06 PM
bgates, not to be a nitpicker, but your data are about new diagnoses, while the 20% refers to cumulative cases. Still, it sounds way too high (and "asthma" is one of those things like ADHD that is pretty subjective).
Posted by: jimmyk | March 29, 2010 at 06:11 PM
--sylvia on Who Has Time To Read?--
--testing
Posted by: sylvia--
They speak for themselves.
Posted by: Ignatz | March 29, 2010 at 06:12 PM
Too bad...
Are you sure the 70% stuff doesn't work or are you saying that the 91% stuff is just more humane and kills them quicker?
How does the kitchen flooring hold up to it? I guess if the flooring gets ruined, no self-respecting ant would want to come back.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | March 29, 2010 at 06:14 PM
". . . one of those bears he assured everyone was friendly but misunderstood."
I think he just misunderstood how doggone hungry that friendly bear was, is all.
Posted by: JorgXMcKie | March 29, 2010 at 06:16 PM
Maladministration Cuts Off All Medicare Payments to Doctors
That should save some dough.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 29, 2010 at 06:22 PM
How do you read it that way, Rick? From what I can tell the article is about deferring a putative Medicare rate cut until April 12 when Congress reconvenes.
Posted by: DrJ | March 29, 2010 at 06:41 PM
your data are about new diagnoses
Which is why I multiplied them by 20: 2 new cases/year/10,000 kids x 20 years = 40 cases : 10,000 kids, and even that's
* counting 19-year-olds as "children",
* assuming nobody ages out of the bracket, and
* nobody dies.
0.4% isn't a gross overestimate, but it's an overestimate.
Posted by: bgates | March 29, 2010 at 06:48 PM
Where is the link to Goldberg on Buckley? Dare I hope he is discussing Christo?
For my money, the whole hoohaw about who has or has not "read the bill" is pretty ridiculous. It simply cannot be read by anyone who is not a lawyer who has at his elbow all the volumes containing the many statutory provisions that are referred to throughout. And at that, it would take a long time--a hell of a lot more than 72 hours--to assimilate it all.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 29, 2010 at 06:54 PM
OMG! Rickey Martin is gay! Who woulda thunk?
Posted by: matt | March 29, 2010 at 06:56 PM
Hmmmm... Hot Air has a post up with some really remarkable news. Republicans now lead Dems in the generic congressional ballot by 3%. At this point in time in 94 the Dems were still ahead by 6% in the same poll. The Dem numbers are so bad Gallop never even did a calculation for the impact them having numbers this low.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/29/gallup-crumble-obamacare-underwater-again-gop-surges-on-generic-ballot/>Gallup crumble: ObamaCare underwater again, GOP surges on generic ballot
Posted by: Ranger | March 29, 2010 at 06:58 PM
Still a good talking point, unless it's better to accuse them of purposely voting for everything that becomes uncomfortable. In which case, it should be pointed out that their multi-million dollar crack staffs helped them understand each and every provision.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 29, 2010 at 07:01 PM
"How do you read it that way, Rick?"
If I were a doc expecting to be paid something during the first three weeks of April for treating Medicare patients and was told I was to receive nothing, then I'd say that the Maladministration had cut payments to zero. This is a pre-emptive move by the Maladministration to set the level of howling at a louder pitch when the Reps refuse to go along with the proposed "relief" by holding the Dems to their Paygo lies. It's the same theater used to vilify Coburn for holding up additional extended unemployment benefits for the same reason.
I also seem to recall sometime in the distant past (was it last week?) when the Democrat liars forced the CBO to use these very same cuts in payments to doctors for "scoring" the HCR fraud.
It's just stage setting - or prepping the battle space.
It's also the Executive refusing to comply with the law as written.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 29, 2010 at 07:03 PM
Occam's Razor explanation.
Sorry, Palin and Hayworth supporters, but you’re in denial about the McCain endorsement
Posted by: Extraneus | March 29, 2010 at 07:04 PM
Wow. I was about to link to that item Ranger just linked to about Gallup's generic ballot and the upcoming elections. Highly recommend it.
I wonder if this will move the needle with people like Larry Sabato and Charlie Cook.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 29, 2010 at 07:05 PM
Could I love sylvia more?
Uh,no.
Posted by: hit and run | March 29, 2010 at 07:15 PM
LOL! Hit.
Posted by: centralcal will not comply | March 29, 2010 at 07:28 PM
Truly, this is insanity. Ezra about Sebilius's letter to insurers.
Posted by: MayBee | March 29, 2010 at 07:48 PM
Oh, cut it out. When will you people stop letting the MSM play wedge games with Palin and "Conservatives". For Pete's sake, what is she supposed to do, repudiate her erstwhile running mate now? Where is the honor in that?
She is certainly proving that she is a "better man" then he and his campaign staff were, given their dreadful behavior after the election. She is not out slandering anyone. She is not letting bitterness and self-pity lead her into vindictive pettiness. She rises to the occasion. How sad that the GOP "leadership" have less honor or strength than a woman.
She has her eyes on the prize, and that prize would be taking back the House in 2010. She has it right. She needs our support, not this idiotic "conservative purist carp" that so damaged us in '06 and '08.
Palin know it is not a done deal. She know she will have to build momentum though the spring and summer, and that the going will get rough. She knows that she is one of the few people in the country that can stand up to the MSM and the Administration in the maelstrom of libel and lies that is coming.
Scores killed in Moscow by our Islamic enemies, and this nation's government is out attacking "Christian Militia". Palin knows what is up, do you?
This is just the beginning of an all out assault on all decent Americans in the nation who would dare speak their minds and act upon it. Without her to fight back, it is hopeless. The GOP "leadership" will not man up, you can take that to the bank. Look at that twit Steele. What an irresponsible arse.
This is a war. it would be wise to start asking like it.
Posted by: squaredance | March 29, 2010 at 07:56 PM
This is a war. it would be wise to start asking like it.
This is a war?
Posted by: Soylent Red | March 29, 2010 at 08:05 PM
LOL Soylent.
Posted by: Ignatz | March 29, 2010 at 08:14 PM
McCain... yawn... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Posted by: Bill in AZ | March 29, 2010 at 08:32 PM
"it would be wise to start asking like it."
Asking? Well, Squaredance, let me start asking WTF you are doing here. You're a damn fool, and nothing you say warrants comment. Take a hike.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 29, 2010 at 08:34 PM
How about this selection instead in the LUN
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | March 29, 2010 at 08:38 PM
A bit of history on the Strange New Respect Award, courtesy of the American Spectator a couple of years ago:
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 29, 2010 at 08:56 PM
Gosh, It'd be great if every single Dem lost in November..then we could teach progressives==the hard way==why established procedures should be followed,why it's a good thing to follow the regular confirmation process; why the language in statutes matters and why criminal laws should be clear and fairly enforced, and why abusive of Congressional hearings is a bad thing.
If you get my drift.
Can't wait for the Holder on the rocks hearings.
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 09:12 PM
**abusive Congressional hearings****
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 09:12 PM
DrJ,
Backup to my assertion regarding phony scoring can be found here. In particular
Eventually, the 21% cut BS will be rescinded and Medicare Part B premiums will be raised substantially to cover a good portion of any increase. Hopefully, all the folks in Geezerville will see the increased costs by August. That should leave time for the flames to be fanned before the election.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 29, 2010 at 09:22 PM
Amen, Clarice!
Posted by: centralcal will not comply | March 29, 2010 at 09:23 PM
Sorry to drag the Strange New Respect stuff in from left field. I meant to post it on the thread dealing with The One's suddenly sounding so hawkish.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 29, 2010 at 09:30 PM
From The Hill:
Tucked away inside a new Washington Post/ABC News poll is a key figure — 72 percent. That’s the percentage of voters who disapprove of the job Congress is doing, and the number hasn’t been that high since — you guessed it — the week before the 1994 election.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 29, 2010 at 09:32 PM
Clarice-
Does the GOP even know how to run abusive congressional hearings? Coleman lost his seat and his hearings were mild.
Posted by: RichatUF | March 29, 2010 at 09:34 PM
Rick,
Eventually, the 21% cut BS will be rescinded and Medicare Part B premiums will be raised substantially to cover a good portion of any increase.
Of course. This is the famous "doc fix" that was used to make the numbers look good. Even early on no one believed that this would actually stick.
Posted by: DrJ | March 29, 2010 at 09:36 PM
A blessed Passover to all my Jewish friends. Somehow, Obama and Seder seem sacriligeous to me. But, what do I know? Jake Tapper on Twitter has a link to a picture of the Seder dinner at the White House. Enough said.
LUN
Posted by: centralcal will not comply | March 29, 2010 at 09:39 PM
Rick, the condo commandos will take this as their last stand ..These are folks who credibly threatened class action suits when told they couldn't take home the table rolls at the early early bird dinners.
Posted by: Clarice | March 29, 2010 at 09:41 PM
Clarice,
If you have any email addys for the condo commandos you might want to alert them using this. Maybe a subject line with this quote:
would be a good way to start.Congress will take up that legislation when they return
from looting and pillaging their districtsspring recess.Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 29, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Which is why I multiplied them by 20
Sorry about that--I guess I was just illustrating the title of this thread. (Actually, I'm a bit jet lagged, so I'll use that as an excuse.)
Posted by: jimmyk | March 30, 2010 at 03:43 AM