He's also the idiot behind the previous Cap n Trade bill, not the new one, that's more Lindsay's gig, and hopefully not Lisa Murkowski, but the day is still young
It's really hard to picture Waxman as the "brains" behind anything more complicated than blowing that bazooka of his. We need to figure out who the Hedley Lamar is behind this Gov. LePetomane.
Maybe Major League Baseball should call for a ban on smoking politicians, starting with our president. If he can preach about the health hazards caused by chewing tobacco and the bad example it sets for our youth, how can he let the president off the hook for smoking, especially with a daughter who suffers from asthma. Does he hug his daughter with his clothing saturated with smoke? How many times has he triggered his daughters asthma?
It made legitimate issuance of public offerings more difficult, thus allowing
these subprime tranches to crowd the portfolios of firms like Lehman Brothers
Totally off topic, but I saw a headline somewhere on line this morning about the Chinese government falling behind on stimulus payments to firms, and now I can't fine it again. Anyone hear or see anything like that recently? It would seem to be very bad news on many levels if its true.
Sarbox was a gift to legal and accounting? Would lawyers and accountants not prefer to help create wealth instead of destroying wealth by being paid to dig holes and fill them in all day?
This seemingly disappeared into the typepad orifice the first time so I'll try again:
Here is an NRO piece by Stephen Spruiell which says pretty much everything I've been trying to say about the GOP and the economy, only better.
Worth reading both economics and politics wise.
Most lawyers have no real idea of how wealth is created in the private sector or what impacts a business' ability to make payroll.
Too few seem to be able to look beyond the language of the statute and regulations and remember to temper their interpretations with the economic reality that will affect the actual impact.
Common sense is NOT a common feature of the profession.
Sarbox was supported by the accountng profession (or at least, the large accounting firms, and continues to be supported by it. You can take a cynical view of this -- as Sarbox helped end the 2001 recession for the accounting industry -- but the many accountants I work with can give you a detailed, detailed, detailed explanation of how Sarbox auditing of corporate processes improved the quality of audits.
That said, I don't know of a corporate CEO who does not think Sarbox is an enormous waste of resources. It just depends where you sit.
It's still early, but this guy Jason Levin appears to be the front-runner for Dolt of the Year. Now he's being investigated by whatever is the appropriate Oregon agency for schoolteachers who disgrace themselves and their profession.
" Now he's being investigated by whatever is the appropriate Oregon agency for schoolteachers who disgrace themselves and their profession."
They'll prolly give him an award. I read the Oregon schools were contemplating reducing the school week to 4 days. That surprised me. I figured they got rid of the whole school system by now. When I left there a few years ago, they lopped off the last 2 or 3 weeks of the school year as a vindictive response to the stupid voters who did not approve a large tax increase (instead of doing something fiscally responsible with the budget).
Given a choice between the judgment of the guy who sits in the accounting office and the guy who sits in the CEO's chair, I'll take the latter every time. There's a reason why they're sitting where they are.
--but the many accountants I work with can give you a detailed, detailed, detailed explanation of how Sarbox auditing of corporate processes improved the quality of audits--
Audit quality, indeed. No doubt the lifetime sinecure Sarbox gives them does not enter into the equation.
Sarbox was supported by the accountng profession (or at least, the large accounting firms, and continues to be supported by it. You can take a cynical view of this
Oh for crissake: It was the beancounter full employment act. What's not to love: Create a kafkaesque labyrinth of almost completely undefined "tests" that medium to large firms have to pass or be out of compliance. Shazzam: Instant demand for the experts to sign off on a mountain of paper that nobody in their right mind will sift through but you damn sight have to have it or God knows what penalties will befall you.
Complete boondoggle adding tons of expenses with not one penny of additional revenue to offset it. It's surprising it didn't produce an immediate depression. One of the worst acts of Congress in my lifetime.
Thanks for the Spruiell piece. It seems to me that the safest strategy would consist of reprinting the initial BOzo Insane Clown Show unemployment projections coupled with highlights from Elmendorf and Bernanke's remarks concerning the fact that the Dem drunken sailor spending binge is both unsustainable and the equivalent of breaking kids piggy banks to pay for a night on the town.
I don't believe there's much risk in pointing at the economy and laughing but the actual demographic target is more apt to pay attention to employment/unemployment than per capita GDP.
Captain Hate's right on SOX. It was the template for the bank bailouts.
What did we do when the banks made massive bad loans largely due to due diligence errors? We gave them even more money to lend. What did we do ten odd years ago when the big accounting firms signed off on audits for the likes of Enron and Global Crossing? Raised audit requirements to ensure that these big accounting firms got even more business. Right after SOX was passed the company I was with at the time got an unsolicited offer from our public auditor: all that SOX stuff you have to do now, we'll come in and look over your shoulder and do it for you, and it's only going to cost you $X million. We passed, but I'm sure other companies didn't (the process flow charts alone were a mini-nightmare).
I feel so bad for the presidents daughter. It's bad enough to expose your children to second hand smoke, but to continue smoking when your child has asthma is inexcusable IMO. The president needs an intervention!
drunken sailors hardly ever spend all their money on booze ... the term comes from the fact that they spent alot of time away from the bottle and when they get the chance it doesn't take much to make them drunk ... now when it comes to hookers, well that tends to empty the wallet pretty quickly ... especially when you are already drunk ... :)
Perhaps he's decided to focus on the great news that 357K homeowners stopped worrying about their overdue mortgage payments in March? Just think of all that money freed up for retail spending, not to mention the positive impact on the rental market.
Vote Democrat - you'll never worry about mortgage payments or a boss again!
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 15, 2010 at 08:30 AM
Poor Henry, ingrown nose hair I hear...will take weeks to heal....
Posted by: Pops | April 15, 2010 at 08:30 AM
Speaking of baseball, Ann Coulter belts one out of the park about retiring Justice Stevens. LUN
Posted by: peter | April 15, 2010 at 08:39 AM
He's got a face only his mother could love....
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 15, 2010 at 08:40 AM
Waxman - idiot, thug, and all around crappy guy.
Posted by: Janet | April 15, 2010 at 08:41 AM
Great headline!
Next he might discover gravity makes dropped things fall to the ground.
Posted by: Clarice | April 15, 2010 at 08:42 AM
Henry's DUH moment.
How do these morons get elected?
Posted by: Jane | April 15, 2010 at 08:42 AM
TM:
Henry Waxman cancels his war on accounting.
He repealed SOX?!!??!
What?
Oh.
Posted by: hit and run | April 15, 2010 at 08:43 AM
Did you see that he's decided to concentrate on something more important for the moment:
">http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-14/waxman-calls-for-major-league-baseball-ban-on-chewing-tobacco.html"> Waxman calls for major league baseball ban on chewing tobacco
Posted by: daddy | April 15, 2010 at 08:44 AM
He's also the idiot behind the previous Cap n Trade bill, not the new one, that's more Lindsay's gig, and hopefully not Lisa Murkowski, but the day is still young
Posted by: nathan hale | April 15, 2010 at 08:52 AM
He's got a face only his mother could love....
and even then, only out of pity.
Posted by: RJ | April 15, 2010 at 08:59 AM
Narciso,
It's really hard to picture Waxman as the "brains" behind anything more complicated than blowing that bazooka of his. We need to figure out who the Hedley Lamar is behind this Gov. LePetomane.
ION - leisure firms are sure to capitalize on the 'unexpected' news that 484K Americans found themselves with more free time this week. Maybe they'll just head for the mall rather than take a cruise though. Hard to say.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 15, 2010 at 09:05 AM
Sure, he didn't write the bill, most likely the Apollo Alliance did, this is the 'bug not a feature,' it would be funny, if it wasn't so tragic, Rick
Posted by: nathan hale | April 15, 2010 at 09:13 AM
Rick-
watch the NSA numbers in claims, and the big bump in EUC.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 15, 2010 at 09:18 AM
h&R:
Sarbox was a gift to the accounting profession, not a curse.
Posted by: Appalled | April 15, 2010 at 09:30 AM
Pull no punches ... Henry Waxman is a coward.
Posted by: Neo | April 15, 2010 at 09:39 AM
Appalled-
Legal, not accounting.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 15, 2010 at 09:40 AM
daddy
Maybe Major League Baseball should call for a ban on smoking politicians, starting with our president. If he can preach about the health hazards caused by chewing tobacco and the bad example it sets for our youth, how can he let the president off the hook for smoking, especially with a daughter who suffers from asthma. Does he hug his daughter with his clothing saturated with smoke? How many times has he triggered his daughters asthma?
Posted by: Rocco | April 15, 2010 at 09:44 AM
It made legitimate issuance of public offerings more difficult, thus allowing
these subprime tranches to crowd the portfolios of firms like Lehman Brothers
Posted by: nathan hale | April 15, 2010 at 09:45 AM
"Maybe Major League Baseball should call for a ban on smoking politicians, starting with our president."
Great point Rocco,
There's nobody more pushed for hero worship or as a role model for young kids in this country than the Smoker in Chief.
Posted by: daddy | April 15, 2010 at 09:56 AM
Totally off topic, but I saw a headline somewhere on line this morning about the Chinese government falling behind on stimulus payments to firms, and now I can't fine it again. Anyone hear or see anything like that recently? It would seem to be very bad news on many levels if its true.
Posted by: Ranger | April 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM
That would be good for Jane's YouToo site. Banning tobacco use by politicians.
Posted by: Janet | April 15, 2010 at 10:02 AM
glasater put it up here.
(China stuff)
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 15, 2010 at 10:13 AM
I think you mean this, Ranger. It was posted by Glasater on the 'shadowboxing' thread.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM
Never mind.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 15, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Rocco -
I'm gonna steal that - with attribution when I have a sec
Posted by: Jane | April 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Sarbox was a gift to legal and accounting? Would lawyers and accountants not prefer to help create wealth instead of destroying wealth by being paid to dig holes and fill them in all day?
Posted by: Jim Ryan | April 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Thanks Ignatz!
Posted by: Ranger | April 15, 2010 at 10:30 AM
"Good news, everybody" and I do mean that in a
Professor Farnsworth sense of the word, in the LUN
Posted by: nathan hale | April 15, 2010 at 10:37 AM
This seemingly disappeared into the typepad orifice the first time so I'll try again:
Here is an NRO piece by Stephen Spruiell which says pretty much everything I've been trying to say about the GOP and the economy, only better.
Worth reading both economics and politics wise.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 15, 2010 at 10:48 AM
JR-
Most lawyers have no real idea of how wealth is created in the private sector or what impacts a business' ability to make payroll.
Too few seem to be able to look beyond the language of the statute and regulations and remember to temper their interpretations with the economic reality that will affect the actual impact.
Common sense is NOT a common feature of the profession.
Posted by: rse | April 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM
Sarbox was supported by the accountng profession (or at least, the large accounting firms, and continues to be supported by it. You can take a cynical view of this -- as Sarbox helped end the 2001 recession for the accounting industry -- but the many accountants I work with can give you a detailed, detailed, detailed explanation of how Sarbox auditing of corporate processes improved the quality of audits.
That said, I don't know of a corporate CEO who does not think Sarbox is an enormous waste of resources. It just depends where you sit.
Posted by: Appalled | April 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM
It's still early, but this guy Jason Levin appears to be the front-runner for Dolt of the Year. Now he's being investigated by whatever is the appropriate Oregon agency for schoolteachers who disgrace themselves and their profession.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 15, 2010 at 11:04 AM
" Now he's being investigated by whatever is the appropriate Oregon agency for schoolteachers who disgrace themselves and their profession."
They'll prolly give him an award. I read the Oregon schools were contemplating reducing the school week to 4 days. That surprised me. I figured they got rid of the whole school system by now. When I left there a few years ago, they lopped off the last 2 or 3 weeks of the school year as a vindictive response to the stupid voters who did not approve a large tax increase (instead of doing something fiscally responsible with the budget).
Posted by: Bill in AZ | April 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM
More good news, yes the irony is intended
Posted by: nathan hale | April 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM
It just depends where you sit.
Given a choice between the judgment of the guy who sits in the accounting office and the guy who sits in the CEO's chair, I'll take the latter every time. There's a reason why they're sitting where they are.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM
--but the many accountants I work with can give you a detailed, detailed, detailed explanation of how Sarbox auditing of corporate processes improved the quality of audits--
Audit quality, indeed. No doubt the lifetime sinecure Sarbox gives them does not enter into the equation.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Sarbox was supported by the accountng profession (or at least, the large accounting firms, and continues to be supported by it. You can take a cynical view of this
Oh for crissake: It was the beancounter full employment act. What's not to love: Create a kafkaesque labyrinth of almost completely undefined "tests" that medium to large firms have to pass or be out of compliance. Shazzam: Instant demand for the experts to sign off on a mountain of paper that nobody in their right mind will sift through but you damn sight have to have it or God knows what penalties will befall you.
Complete boondoggle adding tons of expenses with not one penny of additional revenue to offset it. It's surprising it didn't produce an immediate depression. One of the worst acts of Congress in my lifetime.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 15, 2010 at 11:28 AM
Any guesses as to who was the "political mentor" of Paul Sarbanes?
(You might know the mentor's daughter...)
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM
Hmmmm, from that clue it must be Tommy D'Allesandro
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM
No fun.
Next time, no hints...
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 15, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Ignatz,
Thanks for the Spruiell piece. It seems to me that the safest strategy would consist of reprinting the initial BOzo Insane Clown Show unemployment projections coupled with highlights from Elmendorf and Bernanke's remarks concerning the fact that the Dem drunken sailor spending binge is both unsustainable and the equivalent of breaking kids piggy banks to pay for a night on the town.
I don't believe there's much risk in pointing at the economy and laughing but the actual demographic target is more apt to pay attention to employment/unemployment than per capita GDP.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 15, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Dem drunken sailor spending binge
Didn't Gentle Ben support porkulus? What exactly did he think it was?
Posted by: jimmyk | April 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Captain Hate's right on SOX. It was the template for the bank bailouts.
What did we do when the banks made massive bad loans largely due to due diligence errors? We gave them even more money to lend. What did we do ten odd years ago when the big accounting firms signed off on audits for the likes of Enron and Global Crossing? Raised audit requirements to ensure that these big accounting firms got even more business. Right after SOX was passed the company I was with at the time got an unsolicited offer from our public auditor: all that SOX stuff you have to do now, we'll come in and look over your shoulder and do it for you, and it's only going to cost you $X million. We passed, but I'm sure other companies didn't (the process flow charts alone were a mini-nightmare).
Posted by: EBJ | April 15, 2010 at 12:44 PM
"He's got a face only his mother could love.."
And then only if she is blind. Henry's one of the sharpest thorns in CA's political crown.
Posted by: Frau Pfui! | April 15, 2010 at 01:43 PM
Awesome Jane...hope all is well in DC
Posted by: Rocco | April 15, 2010 at 03:05 PM
I feel so bad for the presidents daughter. It's bad enough to expose your children to second hand smoke, but to continue smoking when your child has asthma is inexcusable IMO. The president needs an intervention!
Posted by: Rocco | April 15, 2010 at 03:13 PM
On behalf of drunken sailor everywhere, let me point out (as have others) that at least when we run out of money we stop spending.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 15, 2010 at 03:26 PM
drunken sailors hardly ever spend all their money on booze ... the term comes from the fact that they spent alot of time away from the bottle and when they get the chance it doesn't take much to make them drunk ... now when it comes to hookers, well that tends to empty the wallet pretty quickly ... especially when you are already drunk ... :)
Posted by: Jeff | April 15, 2010 at 03:58 PM