The effort in Afghanistan continues to circle the drain. Gen. McChrystal somehow agreed to a Rolling Stone profile which will hit the newsstands Friday; it includes sniping by McChrystal and his aides at Obama ("photo-op"), Biden ("Biden? "Bite me"), White House National Security Adviser Jim Jones (a "clown"..."stuck in 1985"), special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke ("Like a wounded animal"), and, of course, Ambassador Karl Eikenberry. Marc Ambinder has more on that special relationship, which apparently went sour in 2005.
And if a total breakdown in Afghanistan team unity isn't enough to worry about, the AllahPundit adds this to the mix from McClatchy News Service:
WASHINGTON — Private security contractors protecting the convoys that supply U.S. military bases in Afghanistan are paying millions of dollars a week in "passage bribes" to the Taliban and other insurgent groups to travel along Afghan roads, a congressional investigation released Monday has found.
The payments, which are reimbursed by the U.S. government, help fund the very enemy the U.S. is attempting to defeat and renew questions about the U.S. dependence on private contractors, who outnumber American troops in Afghanistan , 130,000 to 93,000.
So we are bribing the Taliban to let us bring in supplies to fight them? The good news is that they seem to have team unity problems, too.
The report (86 page .pdf) is at the House subcommittee on National Security and Foreign Affairs. And we are mindful of the possibility of McClatchy hype - the cover letter from Chairman Tierney mentions
... a vast protection racket run by a shadowy network of warlords, strongmen, commanders, corrupt Afghan officials, and perhaps others.
The Taliban is notably absent from the cover page, although perhaps they are picked up by the "perhaps" inside.
OK, that pdf file froze my tired old laptop, but here we go from the Wapo:
U.S. indirectly paying Afghan warlords as part of security contract
By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 22, 2010; A01
The U.S. military is funding a massive protection racket in Afghanistan, indirectly paying tens of millions of dollars to warlords, corrupt public officials and the Taliban to ensure safe passage of its supply convoys throughout the country, according to congressional investigators.
Right, then - let me unthaw my files and maybe I can see for myself.
WHERE IS THAT BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICATION? OK, now I have two frozen computers...
FROM THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
3. Protection Payments for Safe Passage Are a Significant Potential Source of Funding for the Taliban. Within the HNT contractor community, many believe that the highway warlords who provide security in turn make protection payments to insurgents to coordinate safe passage. This belief is evidenced in numerous documents, incident reports, and e-mails that refer to attempts at Taliban extortion along the road. The Subcommittee staff has not uncovered any direct evidence of such payments and a number of witnesses, including Ahmed Wali Karzai, all adamantly deny that any convoy security commanders pay insurgents. According to experts and public reporting, however, the Taliban regularly extort rents from a variety of licit and illicit industries, and it is plausible that the Taliban would try to extort protection payments from the coalition supply chain that runs through territory in which they freely operate.
Point 1 is important (clever numbering scheme they have!) - the Taliban notwithstanding, payments to local warlords work at cross purposes to our goal of creating a strong central government. One recalls a similar tension during the surge in Iraq, where we empowered Sunni militia that were not likely to embrace (or be embraced by) the central government.
BACK TO THE ROLLING STONE: Unless printing presses have ears, people don't talk to "The Rolling Stone" - they talk to reporters. Michael Hastings did the RS story; from his apparently outdated bio:
Michael Hastings spent two years reporting in Iraq as Newsweek's youngest-ever war correspondent. He has written four cover stories for Newsweek International and been published in Slate, Salon, Foreign Policy, The Los Angeles Times, filing stories from such locations as Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, Kurdistan, Vietnam, and Afganistan. He is now a contributing editor at GQ and lives in Vermont.
This GQ piece from April 2009 covered Obama's first surge. In that piece he includes vignettes from his time embedded with front-line troops. I infer that Mr. Hastings is a progressive war skeptic with much about which to be skeptical.
GETTING HIS WISH: The Rolling Stone piece opens in Paris with General McChrystal, a Bud Light kind of regular guy, getting ready to go out to a fancy dinner.
"I'd rather have my ass kicked by a roomful of people than go out to this dinner," McChrystal says.
He pauses a beat.
"Unfortunately," he adds, "no one in this room could do it."
Well, maybe he will find the ass-kicking room in Washington.
We are also paying the Pakistanis to transit supplies through that country. The ISI then decides whether or not and how much to steal as spoilage. They also decide every now and then to allow the Taliban to destroy a convoy or two.
As to the payoffs, Afghanistan is so wacky that they warlords and the Taliban and the tribal leaders are a rotating circus. To a commander like McChrystal, it is an extremely difficult working environment.
One then has an administration that first took 3 months to decide what to do.We have a completely disengaged President and an incompetent (Joe "we lost Iraq" Biden)VP who spend perhaps 3 hours/week on the war. Richard Holbrooke, who has been an assclown since Bosnia. Eikenberry has been CYA since he was CG of ISAF. The war is being criminally mismanaged.
There are ways to fix this thing, but it will require boldness and throwing out the current rule book. I just don't know if we're prepared to do what is necessary.
Posted by: matt | June 22, 2010 at 07:45 AM
Maybe MaChrystal been hanging around this blog, similar sentiments can be obtained
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 07:45 AM
I have reach the point in which I believe our US Armed Forces are too good for most Americans who prefer their American Idolatry Dancing with Useful Idiot Stars rather than make an iota of sacrifice for freedom from tyrants.
If this abuse upon our US Armed Forces who are the ONLY people sacrificing continues I may join with the idiot Libertarians and illiberal Liberals call for pulling our troops from around the world.
Let the enemy come to America and slaughter the brain-dead TV-land Americans who are America's enemies within.
Posted by: susan | June 22, 2010 at 07:52 AM
Maybe we'd be doing better in Afghanistan if we just acknowledged it's not in Asia.
Posted by: Rob Craword | June 22, 2010 at 07:55 AM
From the executive summary, point 3:
Posted by: Tom Maguire | June 22, 2010 at 07:59 AM
Matt,
Do you think McChrystal did this on purpose to let the public in on what is happening? Does he want out? I'm trying to figure out the motive.
Posted by: Jane | June 22, 2010 at 07:59 AM
No, Matt, he's been one since '63, or earlier,
Biden, the unknown genius as Newsweek painted him not so many months ago. Some details like
the Saudi company which forms one of the contractors, do concern me. Many of the issues
that Soylent and others raised about the vulnerability of the supply lines seem to have been born out
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 08:01 AM
The Thomas Sowell today is a must read so I LUN'd it on both threads.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 22, 2010 at 08:04 AM
McChrystal no doubt has continued to serve his nation under impossible circumstances because he knows this war will be lost if he resigns. However he should now face the reality that it is lost under this CIC, no matter who is the commander in the field.
McChrystal should apologize for voting for Obama. He should apologize to the troops for being naive enough to think that someone who said the Surge in Iraq would make things worse - and who agitated for Iraq to be conceded (to al Qaeda and Iran) - could somehow be a serve-worthy CIC.
He should then resign before he is fired.
Posted by: Terry Gain | June 22, 2010 at 08:04 AM
I just don't know if we're prepared to do what is necessary.
I think you do know.
Posted by: Pofarmer | June 22, 2010 at 08:14 AM
After the US pull-out in Afghanistan, after those who sided with us are slaughtered by the Taliban and AQ, after Afghanistan has again lapsed into a sanctuary for state-sponsored terrorism, and after Afghanistan is again used as a staging ground for a terrorist attack on the US homeland that dwarfs 9/11, ignorant and complacent and myopic Americans who voted for all that Hope and Change that Obama promised will again wonder:
"How did this happen? Why do they hate us? What can we do to stop these attacks in the future? We thought they would leave us alone if we pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan and apologized for the 2 wars that Bush started."
Posted by: fdcol63 | June 22, 2010 at 08:16 AM
Do teabag conservatives ever get nostalgic for the days when criticizing the war effort was labeled by their own media as somewhere between "unAmerican" and "treasonous?" Do they long to see Geraldo on Fox literally leading a cheer at some military base in the middle of the desert? Do they miss all the Fox hoopla focusing on how wonderfully things were going? Do they, even secretly, wish that they could be cheering for the war, instead of against it??
Posted by: bunkerbuster | June 22, 2010 at 08:29 AM
How convenient that "Restrepo"">http://restrepothemovie.com/'>"Restrepo" is coming out just as this hits the news stands.
But most importantly, McChrystal voted for Obama, the neo-leader, who never led anything and knew nothing about McChrystal when they first met. This is what you get General when you think its cute to have an articulate, clean guy like BHO setting policy and setting the strategy but then you have no excuse - you voted for him. Duh!
Posted by: Jack is Back! | June 22, 2010 at 08:37 AM
So is this chaotic psychodrama even worse than the French World Cup team?
Posted by: Clyde | June 22, 2010 at 08:45 AM
Do douche bag leftists ever understand the difference between "we support our troops when they shoot their officers" and criticizing the administration's commitment and competence?
No, of course not.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | June 22, 2010 at 08:59 AM
Rob,
The first rule of trolls is that they are all clueless and their only job is to provide bait.
The second rule is to ignore them.
Posted by: Jane | June 22, 2010 at 09:01 AM
Huh? Does that appear to be in response to anyone? Can't be -- I can't read buttbuster's comments; my browser refuses to display them.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | June 22, 2010 at 09:07 AM
No, of course,"Otto" doesn't understand, I think I'm actually insulting Kevin Kline, he was much more subtle in his performance.
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 09:08 AM
I'm surprised that he voted for Obama, but I'm shocked that he told the world whom he voted for. What a breach of protocol. Petraeus he's not.
Posted by: BobDenver | June 22, 2010 at 09:11 AM
Back when I had killfile, I could ignore the Thalosian buzz
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 09:12 AM
Rob,
My mistake, but you sure are prescient which is quite cool as it reveals the predictability of trolls as well.
Posted by: Jane | June 22, 2010 at 09:16 AM
Quo Vadis in Afghanistan. LUN. Been working on this for a week, but the RS article crystallized some of my thinking.
Posted by: matt | June 22, 2010 at 09:23 AM
Are any of the MSM Talking Heads reporting that Afghanistan is the quagmire that they only hoped Iraq could be?
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 09:28 AM
McChrystal cannot be so stupid as to believe his comments would not be reported. Is it possible I'm wrong on this? Or is it likely that he hoped to draw attention to Holbrook's meddling and Eikenberry's and clip their wings?
Posted by: Clarice | June 22, 2010 at 09:41 AM
It does not matter if McChrystal is right in his complaints -- you absolutely cannot have the people leading the war airing their grievances publicly. Obama should not warn him. He should not admonish him. He should just fire him.
Posted by: Appalled | June 22, 2010 at 09:44 AM
Crazy. McChrystal should be fired. He must have wanted this. Maybe it was his way of letting everyone know Obama is a doofus? As much as I dislike Obama/Biden, I dislike the rest of the world more. You don't trash your president while wearing the uniform.
Posted by: Sue | June 22, 2010 at 09:48 AM
Is it possible I'm wrong on this?
Nope.
People can only tolerate some much CARP and he has seen the "inner workings" of this current administration. We are outraged seeing things from the outside, how much more so from someone on the "inside" as it were.
Could it be that he wanted out of Afghanistan or is it that he is "dumber than a box of rocks" like the rest of the Obama Administration?
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 09:49 AM
"Douche bag" is truly one of the greatest put down terms ever. It is not used enough. Bravo RC
Posted by: bunky | June 22, 2010 at 09:49 AM
So we are bribing the Taliban to let us bring in supplies to fight them?
Pretty shrewd on the Taliban's part. They undoubtedly figure a percentage of those supplies will be theirs some day in the not too distant future, so why not let the US pay them to truck the stuff in--gotcha comin' and goin'.
Posted by: anduril | June 22, 2010 at 09:51 AM
Well he did vote for Obama, and he did go to the Kennedy School, however, he's a 'snakeeater' they are characteristically blunt, in their assessment, more a Damon then
a Massengale
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 09:53 AM
So what? Don't they do this in Chicago. Pay to play?
It would be so unfair for us to unleash our overwheming force. No socially just. Instead, make cute, little university rules that will get boys from here killed.
Posted by: MarkO | June 22, 2010 at 09:58 AM
After reading Byron York's take on McChrystal, it sounds like he was more concerned about preserving the lives of Afghanis than the lives of his own troops.
Posted by: Parking Lot | June 22, 2010 at 09:58 AM
Clarice,
That's what I want to know - motive. Is he chuckling all his way to Washington?
Posted by: Jane | June 22, 2010 at 09:59 AM
((Could it be that he wanted out of Afghanistan or is it that he is "dumber than a box of rocks" like the rest of the Obama Administration?))
methinks the latter
Posted by: Parking Lot | June 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Michael Yon doesn't trust McChristal:
I do not trust McChrystal anymore than some people trust the New York Times, Obama or Bush. If McChrystal could be trusted, I would go back to my better life. McChrystal is a great killer but this war is above his head. He must be watched.
. . .
LUN
Posted by: ROA | June 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM
steve Gilbert has reprinted the entire Rolling Stone article
LUN
Posted by: Clarice | June 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM
McChrystal now sees that the situation is hopeless in Afghanistan with Obama and Obama's appointees in charge of the war there.
He wanted out, but could not bring himself to resign.
So, he made these stupid comments knowing that Obama would be forced to fire him.
Posted by: fdcol63 | June 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM
OT - Looks like the SEIU has a new leader. LUN.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM
The payoff and security issues are hardly new, and the main player was reported a couple weeks ago relating to a Canadian dam project (H/T: Flit; a superb source for AF commentary):
But the last inference is shaky, IMO. Normally protection rackets provide their own negative reinforcments as a disincentive for those declining to do business . . . subcontracting is usually too unreliable to make the point. And besides, he had all those security thugs just sitting around . . . so I'm inclined to believe Watan on that narrow point.Posted by: Cecil Turner | June 22, 2010 at 10:07 AM
He voted for Zero which puts him in the same category of Generals as Wesley whatshisname, the weinie. There are not likely many more like McChrystal, so perhaps we will get a competent replacement.
Posted by: gmax | June 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM
WSJ has a book review today A Battle Against the Odds: How tribal leaders helped the U.S. in Iraq—and the lessons for Afghanistan. The conclusion:
Of course, it doesn't discuss the broader dynamics of the The Surge--how the developments will affect Iraqi politics going forward and how durable the Iraqi government will prove to be.
Posted by: anduril | June 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM
McChrystal just put Obama in a perfect no-win situation. If Obama fires him, that calls his judgement into question, since he it the one who specifically chose McChrystal to impliment the Obamasurge. If he doesn't fire him, then Obama looks like the wimp in the White House that McChrystal is accusing him of being.
It sounds like what McChrystal wants is serious focus on what is going on, and he's ready to lose his command to get it. What McChrystal is pointing out is chaos at the top levels where civilian and military intersect. That is the President's perview. He's basically saying that if we lose, it is Obama's fault.
Posted by: Ranger | June 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Even though he had voted for Obama, McChrystal and his new commander in chief failed from the outset to connect. The general first encountered Obama a week after he took office, when the president met with a dozen senior military officials in a room at the Pentagon known as the Tank. According to sources familiar with the meeting, McChrystal thought Obama looked “uncomfortable and intimidated” by the roomful of military brass. Their first one- on-one meeting took place in the Oval Office four months later, after McChrystal got the Afghanistan job, and it didn’t go much better. “It was a 10 minute photo op,” says an adviser to McChrystal. “Obama clearly didn’t know anything about him, who he was. Here’s the guy who’s going to run his fucking war, but he didn’t seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty disappointed.”
Posted by: anduril | June 22, 2010 at 10:13 AM
He's been called back to Washington to explain himself.
He has to be fired--a general in the field simply can't be permitted to speak for publication that way about the civilian leadership.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 22, 2010 at 10:14 AM
I see my phrasing above is unclear. Watan is a company, "he" refers to Ahmed Wali Karzai (President Hamid Karzai’s brother and generally bad actor), who often speaks for the company and is probably the actual overseer (though on paper it is run by two of his cousins). Both figure prominently in the new report. Sorry for mixing up the antecedents.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | June 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM
It gets worse. The editor of Rolling Stone says he was shown the article before publication and raised no objections.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM
DoT,
Yep.
Posted by: Sue | June 22, 2010 at 10:20 AM
The editor of Rolling Stone says he was shown the article before publication and raised no objections.
Well, if that is the case, then this is a deliberate signal that Obama has lost the confidence of the chain of command in theater.
Posted by: Ranger | June 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM
I agree, DoT. But then what?
Posted by: Clarice | June 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Dot,
What do you think his motive was, or is he just dumb?
Posted by: Jane | June 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
He knows what should happen to him. Maybe he just wants to see if Obama has even that much courage.
I'd love to know the real story.
This reminds me of MacArthur, except he did not have his dispute published in a public paper, he sent a letter to Congress.
Despite the fact that Obama had made a life out of seemingly to understand complex matters and speaking of almost everything as a complexity beyond almost everyone, he will have no idea what to do if he has to fire his general.
Posted by: MarkO | June 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
He wanted out, but could not bring himself to resign. So, he made these stupid comments knowing that Obama would be forced to fire him.
Resigning honorably is one thing. There is no honor in the way McCrystal engineered this confrontation with BO.
Posted by: DebinNC | June 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM
I keep seeing, everywhere I go this morning, commenters making the comparison to how long it takes Obama to respond to something he doesn't deem personal and how long it takes him to respond to something he deems personal. He sure is Johnny-on-the-spot when he is personally trashed, isn't he?
Posted by: Sue | June 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM
I'm surprised that he voted for Obama, but I'm shocked that he told the world whom he voted for. What a breach of protocol. Petraeus he's not.
I have no dog in this fight. McChrystal is just another backstabbing political prick who moved up the chain on the backs of people better than him. Voting for Il Douche; fucking brilliant. Giving an interview to Rolling Stone and giving up snarky bullshit; WTF. If he can damage the jugeared fuck then fine; otherwise STFU and DIAF.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 10:25 AM
OT - Code Pink at it again, burying a Rusted-Out Hummer in a Detroit Neighborhood and using it as a planter. This is all part of the USSF CARP occurring in Detroit this week, trying to "change the world" yet again. Problem is, Detroit DOESN'T WANT TO BE SAVED OR CHANGED!
Great lines from the article:
In a poem titled "Ode to the Hummer," CODEPINK organizer Rae Abileah described the vehicle as a "gas-guzzling war machine" turned "family cruiser."
Across the street from the burial site, resident Denise Hightower looked on with a smile. "I like it," she said. "I think it will fit right in here."
LUN
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Maybe McChrystal saw the fecklessness of Obama's Afgahn policy reflected in the fecklessness of his Gulf Oil Spill response and realized the only way to get the CiC's attention for a problem was to hurt him politically.
Posted by: Ranger | June 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM
"realized the only way to get the CiC's attention for a problem was to hurt him politically"
I'm going with that one.
I can probably find out just how rude the awakening has been in the military going between W and O.
Posted by: boris | June 22, 2010 at 10:32 AM
special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke ("Like a wounded animal")
Somebody should find out how many lives this worthless POS has because he's survived quite a few career enders. I'm sure if that asshole McCain had been elected Holbrooke would be in some undeserved position meddling in stuff he doesn't understand and making things worse. He needs to be taken out STAT.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM
What do you think his motive was, or is he just dumb?
I just can't figure it out, but I guess I lean toward the latter.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 22, 2010 at 10:34 AM
I too am interested in DoT's take on this.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 22, 2010 at 10:35 AM
DIAF=die in a fire. I had to look it up, thought others might not know either.
Posted by: Janet | June 22, 2010 at 10:35 AM
It's worth remembering that McChrystal was specifically assigned by SecDef Gates (with the President's prior approval) to implement Obama's strategy shift just over a year ago. And that his predecessor (McKiernan) was rotated out early to accomodate that shift. There's no way to portray this as a "never liked each other" situation.
Whatever friction appeared in the relationship can be at most be a year old, and one would presume related to the task at hand. I suspect the military professional intent on prosecuting a war found a distant politician generally uninterested in the effort hard to work for. In any event, I'm leaning toward Instapundit's appraisal of the situation: he and Petraeus appear exhausted (which can cause some pretty egregious judgment lapses).
Posted by: Cecil Turner | June 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM
"DIAF"
OK Cap'n, now you're just making acronyms up to confuse us! We're going to need a teenager to translate for us.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 22, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Janet where did you look that up?
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Byron York talks with a retired guy who says he's not surprised by this.
The guy has to be fired, and soon.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Sorry OL; I've obviously been posting this morning as if I'm @ AoS.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Since 1960, from Ambassador Lodge's staff to the pacification effort to the Peace Talks,
to the editorship of Foreign Policy to Carter'
South Asian desk, to Pamela Harriman's entourage to Bosnia to AIG's board of directors
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM
I've always thought Janet has a very youthful mind.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 10:42 AM
lol, Old Lurker!
Posted by: centralcal | June 22, 2010 at 10:43 AM
The only way Obama can appear to be a leader is to start firing people....this was his plan all along with the redundancy of 'czars' and 'special envoys'.... the next head to roll will be Salazar's
Posted by: BB Key | June 22, 2010 at 10:43 AM
OL - Urban Dictionary. LUN.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 10:43 AM
McCrystal and McCrystal's top guy were put there by Gates. I admire the way Gen. McKiernan handled that humiliating, career ending situation. Apparently, there were too many civilian deaths under his watch. Much better in this WH to have more US military deaths.
Posted by: DebinNC | June 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Gasbag Kerry is on tv this morning saying this should just all blow over and McChrystal get back to work.
Therefore, I am pretty sure Obama will fire him. Kerry is never right about anything.
Posted by: centralcal | June 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Thanks narc for reminding me of his career path; you've done that before but my mind tends to forget the histories of mendacious fluffers who have been complicit in the loss of freedom half a world away.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM
If he gets fired, who is waiting in the ranks to replace him?
Posted by: centralcal | June 22, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Therefore, I am pretty sure Obama will fire him. Kerry is never right about anything.
Best Line Of The Day.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM
I never thought it possible, but this Bozo is starting to make Jiminy Carter look almost competent.
Posted by: gmax | June 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Thanks PD. That's neat. Wonder if the Young Lurkers know I can now read their mail?
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM
CC POTD
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Maybe McChrystal was just using the Obama Rules. There is a crisis therefore the constitution, laws, regulations, rules, and traditions don't apply.
Posted by: Janet | June 22, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Not only is Holbrooke incompetent, but he's known throughout the world as a mendacious rat.
Posted by: Clarice | June 22, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Obama may think this is his "Truman moment", but ..... Obama isn't Truman, and McChrystal isn't MacArthur.
Posted by: fdcol63 | June 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM
I never thought it possible, but this Bozo is starting to make Jiminy Carter look almost competent.
Fell off the chair thinking about Jimmy Carter's Head on Jiminy Crickets' Body. Someone who has Photoshop skills, PLEASE PLEASE make this one up!
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM
Better yet, make Obama's Head on Bozo The Clown's Body.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 11:08 AM
I just don't see how Obama, Gates or anybody else can have confidence or trust in McChrystal from this point forward. And it's not as though he's forged a record of dazzling success.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Heck, I think this one is better, PD:
Posted by: fdcol63 | June 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM
I bet Petraeus will be the one tasked with publicly responding to McCrystal. Gates and Obama lack the moral authority to do it.
Posted by: DebinNC | June 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM
fdcol63 - Great TURD-KEY pic.
Posted by: PDinDetroit | June 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Carter's bitching about the SCOTUS decision yesterday on giving material aid to terrorist orgs..He's worried that it will interfere with hie peacekeeping efforts with Hamas and Hezbollah,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: Clarice | June 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM
This sums it up, too:
Posted by: fdcol63 | June 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM
I wonder if Obama and the other leftists were "enchanted" by McCrystal speaking this way about Bush. If they chose him because he was "blunt and forthright" in his criticisms.
If so, they have no one to blame but themselves. Which means they'll be blaming someone -- likely Bush -- as soon as they can figure out a way to explain away their involvement.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | June 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM
One of the hosts of "the Call" on CNBC is Larry Kudlow and this AM he and his two co-hosts along with two regular reporters are having a great time making fun of Zero's political situation and also how much money the R's are raising on Wall Street from the "virus" of buyer's remorse.
Posted by: glasater | June 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Jimmy's Love Letter from Yasir
Posted by: fdcol63 | June 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Maybe Dhimmi Carter should take his Habitat for
VerminHumanity roadshow to the embarrassment known as "Palestine" and replace those squalid "refugee camps" (refugees from what; their own government?) with something suitable for human beings to exist within. Some have existed for over half a century and are a testament of the unwillingness of the Palestinian Authority to use the overly-generous aid sent by fools in other countries for anything to better the lot of the people they claim to represent.Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 11:28 AM
The worst part of this is McChrystal (and his fawning aides) seems to base most of their criticism on personal slights not principled policy disagreements so he just comes across as one big preening prima donna carping about the even bigger one in the White House.
Maybe Obama will be insired and after firing McChrystal, he'll fire himself.
I can dream can't I?
Posted by: Ignatz | June 22, 2010 at 11:29 AM
This is an interesting take on things, but I find it gives Obama way too much credit:
Posted by: narciso | June 22, 2010 at 11:29 AM
TIME's Joe Klein has a comment the gist of which is that McChrystal is just terminally candid and has no political ear at all.
And the reporter, Micheal Hastings, was in Afghanistan in April 2009 embedded with troops, and for all I know has stayed there; by now various officers may be treating him as background furniture rather than a potential problem.
Posted by: Tom Maguire | June 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM
Here's something that the rabbi who interviewed Helen Thomas wrote--anyone have a problem with it?
Posted by: anduril | June 22, 2010 at 11:39 AM
TIME's Joe Klein has a comment the gist of which is that McChrystal is just terminally candid and has no political ear at all.
Joke Line is a complete idiot. You don't attain what McChrystal has without being a master of playing political games; he knows exactly what he's doing. Joe reflects how Time is such a repository for clueless, annoyingly self-satisfied douches.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Well, now that I finally get to read the whole thing (thanks for the link, Clarice), I don't get it. Where's the beef? Here's every direct quote in the article (I think):
He's right about Eikenberry's "leak," and the rest is hard to describe as even borderline insubordination. Folks talking about UCMJ violations are going to have to explain it to me, because I don't see any "there" there at all.Posted by: Cecil Turner | June 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM