Only a few days back I noted a shocking NY Times editorial expressing agreement with Clarence Thomas.
I closed with this apocalyptic warning:
The next seal will open when [Times editors] declare themselves in agreement with Rush Limbaugh.
We're getting closer! From yesterday's editorial page, rehasing the Sherrdo debacle:
The administration’s haste to fire Ms. Sherrod was unfair and unseemly. She told of how an agriculture under secretary phoned her to demand she resign instantly via her BlackBerry. The official anxiously cited the likelihood the furor would “be on Glenn Beck tonight.”
By the time the conservative commentator took up the issue, the full transcript of the speech was out and Mr. Beck was citing Ms. Sherrod — but as a victim of administration recklessness. This time, he was right.
This is important. The Times expressing agreement with Beck, Limbaugh and Palin will be like saying "Beetlejuice" three times. No one can predict the consequences.
BUT SERIOUSLY: The key takeaway from the Sherrod story will be that the Times will be even more resolute in ignoring stories emerging from the right, such as the Acorn saga, the New Black Panther dismissal, and so on.
An example of this lowering of the Cone of Silence appears in the Times coverage of Sherrod:
The Sherrod flap spotlighted how Mr. Obama is caught between these competing political forces, and renewed criticism from some of his supporters, especially prominent African-Americans, that he has been too defensive in dealing with matters of race — and too quick to react to criticism from the right.
For many liberals, Ms. Sherrod’s hasty dismissal carried strong echoes of the ouster of Van Jones, an environmental adviser to the president who was forced to resign after Fox News focused attention on some of his past work and statements, and his decision to sign a petition in 2004 questioning whether the Bush administration had allowed the terrorist attacks of September 2001 to provide a pretext for war in the Middle East.
That is the best example they could think of of the Administration getting all jumpy about race? It was only two weeks ago that the Times finally deigned to cover the New Black Panther dismissal, and they found a race angle there:
Racial Motive Alleged in a Justice Dept. Decision
By CHARLIE SAVAGEWASHINGTON — A former Justice Department lawyer hired during the Bush administration alleged on Tuesday that the department scaled down a voter-intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party last year because his former colleagues do not want to protect white people’s civil rights.
...The testimony by Mr. Adams brought new attention to a case that has been used as political ammunition against the Obama administration by some conservative media outlets seeking to flip the script on portrayals of the Bush administration as having “politicized” the Justice Department.
They don't mention the New Black Panthers in their latest story about the Administration's struggles with racial politics, and they won't discuss it again. Sherrod will be the reason.
I have no doubt the Times will continue to find story ideas at DKos, however - this is a Jeff Gannon flashback, but I welcome other examples.
BENDING SPACE-TIME IN THE REALITY-BASED COMMUNITY: Paul Krugman, a towering figure in the Self-Invented Reality Community, explains the Sherrod debacle in an as-yet-uncorrected post:
So I don’t know if readers have been following the Shirley Sherrod affair. It goes like this: Ms. Sherrod was an Agriculture Department official; a right-wing blogger released clips of a video that purportedly showed her making racist remarks; the clips were featured big on Fox News; and the Obama administration promptly fired her.
Team Obama was more prompt than that - they fired her before Fox could get on air. Here is Howard Kurtz:
But for all the chatter -- some of it from Sherrod herself -- that she was done in by Fox News, the network didn't touch the story until her forced resignation was made public Monday evening, with the exception of brief comments by O'Reilly. After a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: "Let's take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let's make sure we do this right."
And here is Sheryl Gay Stolberg of the Paper of Broken Record:
Fox News began its pursuit of Ms. Sherrod in prime time on Monday night on three successive opinion shows that reached at least three million people. Leading off, Mr. O’Reilly asked on his top-rated program, “Is there racism in the Department of Agriculture?” He discussed the tape, plugged Mr. Breitbart’s Web site and demanded that Ms. Sherrod resign immediately.
By the time Mr. O’Reilly’s remarks, which were taped in the afternoon, were broadcast, Ms. Sherrod had indeed resigned, a development that Fox’s next host, Mr. Hannity, treated as breaking news at the beginning of his show. He played a short part of what he called the “shocking” video from Mr. Breitbart, and later discussed the development with a panel of guests, mentioning the N.A.A.C.P.’s recent accusations of racism within the conservative Tea Party movement.
“It is interesting they just lectured the Tea Party movement last week,” Mr. Hannity said, telegraphing a talking point that would come up repeatedly on other shows.
Fox’s 10 p.m. show also covered the resignation as breaking news. Ms. Sherrod later said Fox had not tried to contact her before running the video clip repeatedly on Monday. (A Fox spokeswoman said the O’Reilly program had contacted the Agriculture Department for comment. On Wednesday, Mr. O’Reilly said he owed Ms. Sherrod an apology “for not doing my homework.”)
I don't know why the other networks get a pass there; I have read that they also had coverage. Oh, rubbish - of course I know why they get a pass.
Senator Webb seems to wander off the reservation here, lets see if the Times calls him on it:
"...In an odd historical twist that all Americans see but few can understand, many programs allow recently arrived immigrants to move ahead of similarly situated whites whose families have been in the country for generations. These programs have damaged racial harmony. And the more they have grown, the less they have actually helped African-Americans, the intended beneficiaries of affirmative action as it was originally conceived.”
Posted by: gmax | July 23, 2010 at 10:23 AM
"Don't cross the streams" TM, is my advice
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | July 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Here's the link to that Webb piece.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 23, 2010 at 10:30 AM
TM:
Team Obama was more prompt than that - they fired her before Fox could get on air.
Many have noted how jumpy the administration is on just the threat of Fox News covering a story.
But what about the amazing inability of Breitbart to get Fox News to jump on his story?
Fox like wanted to fact check it and all before --contra Krugman-- "the clips were featured big on Fox News".
That big bad VRWC sure could be a little more V'er and C'er to live up to the hype.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Webb is just trying to set up his reverse Specter after November. He knows he is toast in VA in 2012 as a Dem with Obama at the top of the ticket. He also knows that in Afirmative Action is hated in wide swaths of rural VA. This is his first of what will become a series of 'I am uncomfortable with the Dems positions on issues' bleats. Don't forget that Webb was Harry Reid's willing tool to keep the Senate in sesion during recesses for the last two years of the Bush administration explicitely to prevent the president from making any recess appointments.
Posted by: Ranger | July 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Have you ever seen http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDM2MmRlMmFmZGRhNGUxZDM5ZmM0MTJmMTZiYzZmZGY=>Michelle Bachmann and Jane in the same place at the same time?
I'm just saying -- I know I haven't.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM
The latest and greatest from Sherrod is her claim that USDA under Obama and Vilsack is loaded with racism against blacks.
So why do Obama and Vilsack continue to operate such a racist organization ??
Posted by: Pops | July 23, 2010 at 10:43 AM
I remember feeling bad for Jeff Gannon. The media wanted to mock & destroy him...why? What was in their own past lives? Is there some moral standard that has to be met to be part of the official accepted press? It was almost as if there was a 2005 JournoList equivalent going after Gannon. (I think JournoList started in Feb. 2007).
Posted by: Janet | July 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Who cares he showed no independence when it mattered, he meekly raised objections to the
Health Care bill, but when the Time came he
swallowed it whole,
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | July 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM
It was almost as if there was a 2005 JournoList equivalent going after Gannon. (I think JournoList started in Feb. 2007).
There was one before that known as "Townhouse".
Posted by: Rob Crawford | July 23, 2010 at 10:45 AM
'I am uncomfortable with the Dems positions on issues' bleats.
Exactly Ranger. No matter what he says, he VOTES for all the far left garbage.
When I call his office they never know how he is going to vote. He hasn't made up his mind...yeah right. He always votes for the far left garbage!
Posted by: Janet | July 23, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Rob beat me to it. Plus before that there was the bar at the Willard Hotel is Washington, DC. I am sure there is a newsy equivalent in Midtown NY.
Posted by: gmax | July 23, 2010 at 10:49 AM
his decision to sign a petition in 2004 questioning whether the Bush administration had allowed the terrorist attacks of September 2001 to provide a pretext for war
That's clever. A Times reader could be forgiven for parsing that as "a petition which wondered whether in the 2002-03 debate over going to war in Iraq the administration had seized on 9/11 as justification", when it really was a petition which accused the administration of plotting the attacks itself or allowing the discovered plot to proceed so that the administration could use the thousands of deaths it had caused to provoke a larger war.
Posted by: bgates | July 23, 2010 at 10:50 AM
The Times expressing agreement with Beck, Limbaugh and Palin will be like saying "Beetlejuice" three times. No one can predict the consequences.
Heard a rumor yesterday that since all the conventional mudslinging attacks on Palin have failed to eliminate her, the new tactic is to build her up and put her on a pedestal so that (presumably) she can be knocked down later in the 2012 campaign.
So if that's true, we should see Strange New Respect for Palin in coming months.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 23, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Who cares he showed no independence when it mattered, he meekly raised objections to the
Health Care bill, but when the Time came he
swallowed it whole,
and giving the EPA power...and every other far left thing you can remember.
Posted by: Janet | July 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM
The Times should be subject to the Rules of Evidence.
Posted by: MarkO | July 23, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Is the administration jumpy on race...Sherrod,Jones,Gates...Yes. Is it intentional? Yes, because when they jump the gun it makes race the issue....It seems they have taken a page from Joel Chandler Harris and want to be thrown in the briar patch.
Posted by: BB Key | July 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM
I'm wondering why noone is prosecuting the murderer of her father, or at least mentioning the murderers name if the guy is already dead.
Posted by: Pops | July 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM
I forgot about that one, Janet, the point is he hasn't voted right on anything I can recall, he gives weak statements of dissaproval like with the Gitmo transfers to Yemen, but little else
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | July 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM
“It is interesting they just lectured the Tea Party movement last week,” Mr. Hannity said, telegraphing a talking point
"telegraphing" is a funny word, given that Breitbart had said the same thing last Thursday.
The link is to the same interview in which Breitbart said, "I have tapes - tapes of racism, and it's at an NAACP, uh, dinner. OK? You want to play with fire? I have evidence of racism and it's coming from the NAACP." It's from those two sentences that Shirley Sherrod claims she was able to deduce, despite the fact that there are annual Freedom Fund dinners in every city and county in the nation, and despite the fact that the NAACP national convention had just taken place July 10-15, that Breitbart must have obtained video of her remarks in Georgia this past March, and that a cabinet secretary ought to be alerted immediately.
Posted by: bgates | July 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM
I think the Webb piece is important. In the midst of the "real conversation" on race we've been bravely having lately, a Democrat comes out and says what everyone knows but no Republican could have comfortably said before Obama lowered the bar. That's a big step in the right direction.
What will Gibbs say if someone asks about this?
The white farmer discriminated against in favor of blacks is one thing, but maybe we should find out how many white farmers were discriminated against in favor of other favored "minorities." Or white cops, or white engineers.
I hope Webb will follow this up.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Put not your faith in the blind squirrel or the stopped clock for even though it might be right twice a day it is still useless for telling time.
Posted by: boris | July 23, 2010 at 11:05 AM
He's had nearly four years to raise this issue, which he made a big deal about it, before he started running as a Democrat, he's a dishonest shill,
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | July 23, 2010 at 11:05 AM
Webb obviously had a political motive, in that he wants lots of space between himself and Zero. Apparently if you stand too close to the curb, the bus could run you over in passing? Who knew?
Still lets see if Zero joins in his brave and thoughtful dialogue about ending the travesty of Affirmative Discrimination.
Posted by: gmax | July 23, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Ex,
Isn't Senator Macaca just telling BOzo that immigration "reform" will be filed next to Air Taxes for the foreseeable future? Senator Macaca is looking at his chances in '12 and shooting for 'slim' rather than the alternative.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | July 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM
No, BBK, they want to hit the Tar Baby.
===============
Posted by: BP in the Hood. | July 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM
OT, but excellent aritcle at Realclearmarkets examining what Bush did wrong.
Let's hope the GOP pays attention so they can avoid making them again.
Posted by: Ignatz | July 23, 2010 at 11:18 AM
iggy I got to tell you, Bush is looking like a sage and wise leader compared to the new edition...
Posted by: gmax | July 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Yes Webb's shooting for slim, BUT his statement is important as it is rare. Like Nixon going to China, without a Dem leading this charge--for the obvious reason--there will be no change unless Dems are in it. Maybe unwittingly this administration will prove to be useful, forcing Americans to realize that the racial spoils system is corrupt, dishonest and dangerous, It has already been giving us numerous "teachable moments" about big government.
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 11:26 AM
Well ok, but the reason we have Obama is the same thing Webb is talking about. It's the reason we have Sotomayer, and Kagen, and Holder, and thousands, maybe millions of un- or under-qualified AA sweepstakes winners in positions of importance.
It's the reason we had the CRA. I think it's the number one problem in this country, by far - the root-cause of many of our society's ills - and I don't see how it gets fixed until people are able to confidently talk about how wrong it is.
Seems to me that Webb can help this along, even if it's for his own selfish reasons, and even if he's insincere.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 23, 2010 at 11:27 AM
I agree Extraneus. Back when I was writing my Senators every day about the health care bill...Webb's auto-reply letters always kinda blamed the administration for not handling it well. But he voted for it in the end. I don't think he likes Obama at all.
Posted by: Janet | July 23, 2010 at 11:35 AM
Webb is going to get the fully Monty from the like of KOS if he keeps this up. It will not stand as Democrat policy, as without near unanimous black votes, the Democrat become the a small regional party primarily in New England with outposts on the West coast and a few islands of insanity.
Posted by: gmax | July 23, 2010 at 11:35 AM
Janet and Jane!!! Your names are both appearing in the Daily Caller website - scroll down a bit, right hand side in the "Recommendations" column. Janet is there twice. Oh, you FB ladies have figured out how to get your names in lights. lol.
Posted by: centralcal | July 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM
--iggy I got to tell you, Bush is looking like a sage and wise leader compared to the new edition...--
Indeed he is gmax, but how does that obviate the need to examine past mistakes, particularly when some of those mistakes contributed significantly to the election of the new edition, not to mention us having to even mouth the emetic phrase "Speaker Pelosi"?
Posted by: Ignatz | July 23, 2010 at 11:37 AM
"the root-cause of many of our society's ills ..."
Just as the patient starts showing signs of recovery along comes the snake oil salesman with a special deal.
Seems anytime this subject is due for needed adjustment some dimorat gets to steal the credit.
Posted by: boris | July 23, 2010 at 11:38 AM
The problem was a more committed conservative
Republican voting bloc, but more fundamentally
the populace from which they are to rise.
Posted by: narciso the harpoon | July 23, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Posted by: Neo | July 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Hahaha centralcal...my .o15 seconds of fame!
Facebook is pretty good as a kinda poor mans blog. Linking to favorite stories with a bit of comment...anyway, a person can reach some relatives and friends that way. Every little bit helps.
Posted by: Janet | July 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM
"need to examine past mistakes"
I'd favor less in the way of assertion by circular argument and more in the way of analysis.
WTF? Seriously?IMO people just don't want to admit or deal with the real reasons for US breakdowns.
Posted by: boris | July 23, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Speaking of media - yesterday several media sites had a clip of Luke Russert questioning Cholly Rangle. I just got around to watching it. The man is simply stunned that NBC (actually, MSNBC) would ask him any tough questions. I think it clearly shows how the Washington bums have come to expect smooth sailing from most media outlets. They feel so secure.
Posted by: centralcal | July 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM
I missed my 15 seconds of fame - does someone go in and erase it?
Have you ever seen Michelle Bachmann and Jane in the same place at the same time?
The power of being able to subpoena is far more important than using it to keep the left in line, altho I do think some things really should be investigated.
Posted by: Jane | July 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM
I think from the judge's remarks published today and the fact that the DoJ counsel skittered out the back way, Holder (B.s,J.D. Columbia) has another loser on his hands.
And just as Congress is recessing and animus to the Administration is rising.
It's a long, hot summer with the Obama's only having teo pre vacations before the real one...in an elite gated community in the Hamptons or Martha's Vineyard.
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM
He's going to FL for a few days vacation in August, before he goes on his big vacation to Martha's Vineyard.
Posted by: Jane | July 23, 2010 at 12:32 PM
((The man is simply stunned that NBC (actually, MSNBC) would ask him any tough questions))
asking tough questions is racist
Posted by: Chubby (formerly Parking Lot) | July 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM
OTOH, now that the media knows we are on to them, they'll llike actually um do some work.
In the next presidential campaign any Republican who agrees to the Gwen Ifill etc type "debate" deserves to be shot.
It should be a straight up two person debate on a single question limited only by time rules and NO DAMNED moderators.
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM
I'd love to see a debate where only the candidates ask eachother questions.
Mechanize the moderator. A simple clock will do.
The Chess masters solved that riddle a long time ago.
Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland | July 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Webb is a two faced liar. When he ran here in Virginia he pretended to be much more conservative, but when it came down to it he always votes with the left.
He will be thrown out if the Republicans run someone not afraid to trake on Webb and the medias lies.
Posted by: Pops | July 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Clarice @ July 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM
And that question will be:
Why has it taken President Obama so long to fix everything Bush screwed up? Please take into account in your answer that when Obama got elected the entire Universe was about to collapse on itself due to Bush policies and the US economy was headed for a quad-druple dip depression with mass rioting, bloody goat intestine wars and various outbreaks of boils and gigantic muscular tape worms that eat children and poop racists.
Posted by: Pops | July 23, 2010 at 01:02 PM
Ohh, and please don't give a partisan answer like those black hating, KKK loving, evironmentent destroying, gun clinging, Hispanic killing Republican scum usually provide.
Posted by: Pops | July 23, 2010 at 01:04 PM
OT, but excellent aritcle at Realclearmarkets examining what Bush did wrong.
Sorry, but letting the Dems blame the economic collapse on Bush is nonsense. And the failure to address the obvious is one of the biggest drags on the "recovery."Nowhere in there do we see anything about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The closest thing to an analysis of the subprime mortgage mess is this:
Posted by: Cecil Turner | July 23, 2010 at 01:05 PM
Apparently Tommy One Tone doesn't understand that FoxNews.com and FoxNation.com are Fox News.
You could look it up:
"The services offered by FOX News include foxnews.com, foxbusiness.com, foxnation.com, foxnews.mobi, m.foxbusiness.com, the FOX News iPhone application, the FOX Business iPhone application, and any FOX News-branded URL, WAP site and mobile application (collectively, the 'Site'), FOX News messaging services, video services, RSS feeds, podcasting services, mobile services, and any other feature, content, or applications offered from time to time by FOX News in connection with FOX News' business (collectively, the 'FOX News Services')."
There isn't a bus short enough for our Tommy.
Posted by: Grunt Palin | July 23, 2010 at 01:24 PM
Gabriel--let's start a Real Debate Movement--insisting there be an end to these sham ones.
It' s such an idiotic waste of time.
And then--let's demand that Luntz stop interviewing the "undecideds' two weeks or more before the vote. If those dummies haven't figured it out by then, let them stay home.
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 01:31 PM
When you see the hammer & sickle at half-mast at NPR, it's because Daniel Schorr is no longer stealing my oxygen. He's probably already boring Satan with endless babble about being on Nixon's enemies list.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 23, 2010 at 01:37 PM
Apparently Tommy One Tone doesn't understand that FoxNews.com and FoxNation.com are Fox News.
You might want to explain that one. All I see is a quote from Howard Kurtz directly refuting the "chatter."
Posted by: Cecil Turner | July 23, 2010 at 01:43 PM
Bingo! Lifson at AT just pointed out that there is not one single African-American on Journolist. Not one. How does the Tea Party compare?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | July 23, 2010 at 01:44 PM
lol - Charlie Rangel got the message who the reporter was - Luke Russert - and has already called him and apologized.
This is just sickening on so many levels.
I agree Clarice, that the whole debate process needs an complete overhaul.
Posted by: centralcal | July 23, 2010 at 01:47 PM
DoT: you missed Lifson's update, he found one A-A: Ta Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic.
I think he used to be over at Politico prior to that.
Posted by: centralcal | July 23, 2010 at 01:53 PM
Do see the update,DoT -- Lifson notes that the known Jounolist members are .0135% African-American.
1 out of 74.
Also,my funny bone is tickled that the lineup misspells JONATHAN CHIAT and MATHHEW YGLESIAS. I just hope someone has pointed it out to them so they can demand a correction.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 01:53 PM
It's been updated, DoT. We found ONE. There's more diversity at every tea party rally I've been to though than there is at this collection of ugly white (one Asian, one black) people.
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 01:53 PM
Cap'n,
Rough week for journoweenies, huh?
We stayed in ABC's neighborhood (Lincoln Center) in Manhattan this past weekend and several times I walked down "Peter Jennings Way" on my way to and from the Park. Snickered every time.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 23, 2010 at 01:54 PM
Slow down c-cal,you move to fast.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 01:54 PM
Some decades ago, Schorr showed up here trick or treating with his second wife and their kid..He looked like the grandfather even then.
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 01:55 PM
There are probably a few more in the 400 - Capehart maybe. Only Ezra knows!
Posted by: Porchlight | July 23, 2010 at 01:55 PM
several times I walked down "Peter Jennings Way"
Don't tell me -- both ways down that street are the wrong way, and when you get to the end, you're accused of throwing a tantrum?
Posted by: Rob Crawford | July 23, 2010 at 01:58 PM
o k a y
m o v i n g
r e a l l y
s l o w.
Posted by: centralcal | July 23, 2010 at 01:59 PM
Porchlight:
There are probably a few more in the 400
My math says there should be roughly 4-5 more out of the 326 we don't know about.
That would put Jounolist between .0125% and .015% black.
I'm holding out hope that there are more.
Because anything below that and they wouldn't be celbrating diversity,as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 02:03 PM
Heh!
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 02:03 PM
you're accused of throwing a tantrum?
Heh. I thought of that several times and made a silent promise that I would toast ol' Peter on November 3, 2010, after my tantrum was over.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 23, 2010 at 02:06 PM
I misspoke--that was Schorr's first wife..He married very late..
Posted by: Clarice | July 23, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Because anything below that and they wouldn't be celbrating diversity,as far as I'm concerned.
You should really send this to Daily Caller, hit. Would make a nice little sidebar to the drip, drip, drip.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 23, 2010 at 02:10 PM
Don't tell me -- both ways down that street are the wrong way, and when you get to the end, you're accused of throwing a tantrum?
And the accuser is a Canadian
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 23, 2010 at 02:10 PM
Apparently Tommy One Tone doesn't understand that FoxNews.com and FoxNation.com are Fox News
What warrants that conclusion?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | July 23, 2010 at 02:23 PM
Careful. 4 out of 400 is 1%.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 23, 2010 at 02:27 PM
a Media Matters ghoul made an appearance yesterday saying that the WaPo story about Fox's non culpability was in error ... someone asked it for a link as proof it but I don't think it got back
Posted by: Chubby (formerly Parking Lot) | July 23, 2010 at 02:30 PM
The theme of the article I linked was what Bush did wrong, from a free market perspective. The circle-the-wagon mentality by saying the Dems did bad stuff too or Barry is way worse than Bush is true, but it's also rather like saying the final voyage of the Andrea Doria was a success because Titanic's was worse. It's also a prescription for not correcting the mistakes of the past.
It seems particularly odd from people who are cheered by the Tea Party movement of limited government, limited debt and free markets.
If big government, compassionate conservatism and the loose spending congressional Republicans are beyond criticism then it's hard not to conclude that Santayna's famous dictum is waiting in the wings.
I for one fully expect, through hard experience, the Republicans to repeat the mistakes of the past unless their feet are held to the fire. And it's pretty tough to generate any heat if poor policies from 2001 to 2009 drop down the memory hole.
Posted by: Ignatz | July 23, 2010 at 02:30 PM
The NYT didn't even get the time line correct when they agreed with Beck. Monday afternoon Beck had the video clip, but he did not have the full transcript. He played the clip and cautioned: "Context Matters." He asked whether Sherrod was telling a story from her past to illustrate an attitude she had grown out of or was she describing how she still feels and acts? Beck was unwilling to condemn Sherrod without hearing the rest of the video.
Posted by: David Walser | July 23, 2010 at 02:32 PM
yes Ignatz
dems: affordable housing policies
Bush: monetary policy
Wall Street: toxic derivatives
enough blame to go around
Posted by: Chubby (formerly Parking Lot) | July 23, 2010 at 02:33 PM
This post over at Hot Air does raise a few questions.
A quick summary of the post. Joe Klein admitted yesterday that he was a member of Journolist. He used the admission as a frame for his career where he was a member of other "list servs" predating modern communications. Joe has no regrets about his participation in the Journolist.
Hot Air shows a clip from "How Obama got elected" with John Zeigler and Bill O'Reilly hashing out a clip from Brian Williams just after the Palin announcement. Williams reads Joe Klein's Time piece, which Klein cribbed from Journolist posts, on the air.
The first question I have.
Were any NBC producers, at the time of the Palin announcement, members of Journolist?
Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland | July 23, 2010 at 02:37 PM
Careful. 4 out of 400 is 1%.
Heh. Man,I am bad at math.
I was going for 4 out of 74 (what we know currently) = .0135 and I shouldn't have put the % after that,because as you have gently pointed out, it would be 1.35%
I am saying that add 4-5 more, which would be 5 out of 400 - 1.25% or 6 out of 400 1.5%
In the end,there can be only one conclusion: Decimals are racist.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 02:41 PM
Anyone have a link to that list of Journolist members with their photos?
Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland | July 23, 2010 at 02:42 PM
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/07/the_unbearable_whiteness_of_be.html>Journolist Mug shots
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 02:45 PM
I offer exhibit A, from the NYT:
"Daniel Schorr, Journalist, Dies at 93"
Posted by: MarkO | July 23, 2010 at 02:48 PM
The Supreme who said we couldn't talk about O's birth should be fired. It's all classified and stuff, so dad was an informant for CIA. All federal employees have to show they are Americans and BCs are basic.
Other O countries are saying they don't O, but they do when it's owe one of hers.
Posted by: SAT | July 23, 2010 at 03:20 PM
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but does that illustrated Journolist overload anyone else's gaydar.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 23, 2010 at 03:21 PM
"repeat the mistakes of the past unless their feet are held to the fire"
First step, correct analysis of what the "mistakes" were. Disagreeing with a FUBAR analysis is not the same as shirking retrospection.
Unless people are ready to address what people clearly do not want to address ... evasive scapegoating is worse than just looking forward and finding something that works. I don't consider an argument over whether the problem was tax cuts for the rich or "wanting" a weak dollar to be productive use of brainpower.
Posted by: boris | July 23, 2010 at 03:23 PM
Yep. Teh gayface is strong with them. NO wonder Graham keeps going back for more abuse. I just wish that McCain would give gayface Graham a swift newspaper to the nose and the correct verbal command.
"Down Bitch!"
not
"Roll Over!"
Posted by: Stephanie | July 23, 2010 at 03:30 PM
Boris,
I'm rather curious to hear what it is (IYO) that people do not want to address?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | July 23, 2010 at 03:50 PM
The 'Stockholm's' last voyage was a failure because it sank, while what the Titanic hit didn't.
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Posted by: Only 54% of a century ago. | July 23, 2010 at 03:51 PM
Apparently pretty much everyone forgot that the Clinton economic boom began when the Republicans won Congress after the economy was anemic during Clintons first 2 years.
They also forget the economy was fine under Bush until the Democrats took back the House and SEnate under Reid and Pelosi, that's when the downturn occurred, having nothing to do with Bush policies.
Posted by: Pops | July 23, 2010 at 03:54 PM
even if there had been no Reid and no Pelosi there would have still have been a subprime meltdown
Posted by: Chubby (formerly Parking Lot) | July 23, 2010 at 04:04 PM
White House predicts record $1,470,000,000 deficit.
Barry, at some point you've spent enough money.
And for this fiscal year, that point was about six months ago.
Posted by: bgates | July 23, 2010 at 04:15 PM
"it is (IYO) that people do not want to address?"
Rick, whatever makes it possible for Obama and BJ to get elected, for AGW to flourish, for education to brainwash, for media to get everything bass ackwards, and the demons of chaos to drive us all hell bent down the road to perdition.
I suspect wanting a strong dollar may not have prevented the mess we find ourselvs in now.
Posted by: boris | July 23, 2010 at 04:17 PM
Left off some zeros.
That should be "record $1,470,000,000,000 deficit".
Posted by: bgates | July 23, 2010 at 04:18 PM
bgates:
Left off some zeros.
Decimals and zeros are racist.
Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 04:23 PM
Am I the only one to LOL @ the David Brock mug shot besides him even being on that list of mooks? He looks like he just got caught making shit up. All the guys look like the results of very failed genetic experiments.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 23, 2010 at 04:23 PM
Bush: monetary policy
Isn't monetary policy established by the Federal Reserve?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | July 23, 2010 at 04:24 PM
How quickly I punched the channel changer when Daniel Schorr pontificated on NPR!
Posted by: sbw | July 23, 2010 at 04:24 PM
InvestorWords.com
monetary policy
Posted by: Danube of Thought | July 23, 2010 at 04:26 PM
((I suspect wanting a strong dollar may not have prevented the mess we find ourselvs in now.))
higher interest rates would have put the brakes on subprime lending
Posted by: Chubby (formerly Parking Lot) | July 23, 2010 at 04:26 PM
((Isn't monetary policy established by the Federal Reserve?))
Bush appointed Greenspan and Bernanke did he not?
Posted by: Chubby (formerly Parking Lot) | July 23, 2010 at 04:28 PM