Sen. James Webb, Jersey Boy

James Webb of Virginia, a rootin', tootin' gun-wavin' real man turned Democrat, provides his cover version of "Working My Back To You" in the Wall Street Journal.

"You" is white voters; the titling:

Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege

America still owes a debt to its black citizens, but government programs to help all 'people of color' are unfair. They should end.

End affirmative action?  Not while Barack is President!  And maybe Webb has plans to address that problem in 2012.  Or maybe this is just a huge CYA for his own Senate race in 2012, as he tries to open a few miles between himself and his party's "leadership".

Stephen Green, the VodkaPundit, has more.

Comments

[Deus Mio.]

Calling all way back machines.
========

[Clarice]

I think it's"Working My Way Back To You" ,TM.

I said something about Webb, too. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/07/dem_senator_turns_on_the_diver.html>Internals Must be Something

[All work and no play makes Tom a dull boy.]

I'm workin' my wayback machine for you, Babe.
==============

[Beecher's Bible and Rifle Church. Henry Ward for all you progs.]

Actually, I kind of like 'Working my back for you'. He's turned on his constituency, and now he's turned again. Life makin' you a little dizzy, Jimmy me boy? Try clingin' to sumpin solid like your gun or your Bible. Yeah, that's the tikket.
================

[Captain Hate]

Somewhere there's a fire Webb should be dying in. Is Allen still considered a viable candidate in the state where Katie Couric went to college (Jefferson would be sooooo proud) so that the voters can respond to how they were duped by the Downtown Daily Worker? Then Webb can go back to writing books for NAMBLA members to enjoy.

[Under the pot he's in.]

Believe me, Cap'n HaHa, it was the crackling of the brands that caught his attention.
================

[Janet CEO Redneck Beauty Salon Inc./closed for a week]

I agree Captain. Big head Jim Webb...talks about conservative stuff, but ALWAYS votes the far left line. Do.not.be.fooled.

[Rick Ballard]

Allen is a very viable candidate to replace Senator Macaca in '12. Putting Senator Macaca's vote on the preference laden FinReg abomination alongside of this mealy mouthed expiatory swill will be high on his campaign manager's to do list.

Webb may think of this as a Blue Dog declaration of independence from the Kendonesian commie but that wasn't Kool-Aid in the chalice which he and every other Blue Dog drained.

[peter]

I always thought Wichita Lineman was a nice song. I like the guitar instrumental version by Johnny A. LUN

[Captain Hate]

Webb showed his almost complete lack of character when he hit GWB with a partisan blast in response to a question of how his son in Iraq was doing. W revealed his character by merely repeating the question rather than point out the numerous reasons why Webb is a classless turd.

[Clarice]

I dont's see what this gets him politically.

Conservatives will not lose their distrust and blacks, the party's base, are not liking this.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Cap'n-

I would wager she was a good candidate for being a bride of Rugby Bowl.

And Fiji Island parties would have been a good rehearsal evening.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Clarice-

It's the P.T. Barnum campaign strategy.

Thoroughly arrogant and a page right out of the 70's playbook, when news was delivered out of a baby bottle.

[Old Dad]

It's interesting to speculate why the rats are jumping ship, but I'm more concerned by the complete absence of GOP leadership. Who is there to consolidate the gains and exploit the enemies losses? Who will lead the counter attack? The enemy is starting to fragment. Soon they will be in full retreat. We can't, like Meade after Gettysburg, stop at the Potomac.

[narciso the harpoon]

Well I suspect OldDad, that Will Roger were he alive to day, one would be very surprised
and two might be speaking of the GOP. The GOP
has prospered despite not because of, the likes of Boehner, McConnell and co, and the less said about Steele the better

[Danube of Thought]

Minus 18 at Raz today. Forty-three overall.

[Clarice]

Old Dad, when your opponent is driving the stake in his own heart, why interrupt with blather?

Let them be.

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

Krista Branch sings I AM AMERICA

LUN

[Jane]

I dont's see what this gets him politically.

I suspect he is trying to distance himself from Mr hope and change. Is Allen planning to run in '12?

[Danube of Thought]

Please forgive me for going so far off topic, but Tunku Varadarajan is definitely on a roll:

Charlie Rangel, oleaginous octogenarian extraordinaire, put on a press conference at lunchtime on Friday that was such a master class in shifty-eyed flimflam that no one who watched it can have left its Harlem venue (or their TV screens) unconvinced that he is, by some great distance, the most knavish congressman in Washington.

[Jane]

Another roll can be found right here. Holy cow.

[anduril]

Webb's article illustrates one of the problems with affirmative action. Regardless of invidious discrimination, one must also look to cultural factors in situations such as he describes:

The illiteracy rate was five times that of the North-Central states and more than twice that of New England and the Middle Atlantic (despite the waves of European immigrants then flowing to those regions). The total endowments of all the colleges and universities in the South were less than the endowments of Harvard and Yale alone. The average schoolchild in the South had $25 a year spent on his or her education, compared to $141 for children in New York.

Generations of such deficiencies do not disappear overnight, and they affect the momentum of a culture. In 1974, a National Opinion Research Center (NORC) study of white ethnic groups showed that white Baptists nationwide averaged only 10.7 years of education, a level almost identical to blacks' average of 10.6 years, and well below that of most other white groups. A recent NORC Social Survey of white adults born after World War II showed that in the years 1980-2000, only 18.4% of white Baptists and 21.8% of Irish Protestants—the principal ethnic group that settled the South—had obtained college degrees, compared to a national average of 30.1%, a Jewish average of 73.3%, and an average among those of Chinese and Indian descent of 61.9%.

What he's not explicitly saying is that Jews, Catholics and Mainstream Protestants (Episcopals, Presbyterians and Methodists, dying breeds all) value and seek education. "Other" whites...not so much. Are there cultural reasons for this? Possibly so, but no one wants to talk about it much--they'd rather look for a new, vote-rich victim class.

Webb is, of course, piggybacking on the findings of a book length study by two Princeton sociologists, which gained a lot of attention as a result of Ross Douthat's NYT take off: The Roots of White Anxiety--did TM not read his NYT on July 18?

What about discrimination, in addition to cultural factors? Douthat cites Russell Nieli, How Diversity Punishes Asians, Poor Whites and Lots of Others, but without offering the gory details:

The box students checked off on the racial question on their application was thus shown to have an extraordinary effect on a student's chances of gaining admission to the highly competitive private schools in the NSCE database. To have the same chances of gaining admission as a black student with an SAT score of 1100, an Hispanic student otherwise equally matched in background characteristics would have to have a 1230, a white student a 1410, and an Asian student a 1550. ...

Espenshade and Radford [our Princeton sociologists] also take up very thoroughly the question of "class based preferences" and what they find clearly shows a general disregard for improving the admission chances of poor and otherwise disadvantaged whites. Other studies, including a 2005 analysis of nineteen highly selective public and private universities by William Bowen, Martin Kurzweil, and Eugene Tobin, in their 2003 book, Equity and Excellence in American Higher Education, found very little if any advantage in the admissions process accorded to whites from economically or educationally disadvantaged families compared to whites from wealthier or better educated homes. ...

At the private institutions in their study whites from lower-class backgrounds incurred a huge admissions disadvantage not only in comparison to lower-class minority students, but compared to whites from middle-class and upper-middle-class backgrounds as well. The lower-class whites proved to be all-around losers. When equally matched for background factors (including SAT scores and high school GPAs), the better-off whites were more than three times as likely to be accepted as the poorest whites (.28 vs. .08 admissions probability).

For those arguing discrimination, I'm guessing that numbers like those will be compelling in Virginia, even though that Commonwealth possesses quite a number of first rate colleges and universities.

[anduril]

Please forgive me for going so far off topic, but Tunku Varadarajan is definitely on a roll:

Charlie Rangel, oleaginous octogenarian extraordinaire, put on a press conference at lunchtime on Friday that was such a master class in shifty-eyed flimflam that no one who watched it can have left its Harlem venue (or their TV screens) unconvinced that he is, by some great distance, the most knavish congressman in Washington.

Posted by: Danube of Thought | July 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Another roll can be found right here. Holy cow.

Posted by: Jane | July 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Begone trolls--and hypocrites: this is the higher education thread.

[Conservative Girl]

Yeah, but he voted for the financial reform bill that has quotas in it. He this is a principled belief by him, he certainly didn't stand by it.

[Rick Ballard]

Jane,

The Webb piece is an indication of how badly BO Stinks but the Blue Dogs would have to caucus on Mars to get the proper distance from him. They're going to wear that albatross until January, 2013. The ones that are left after '10, that is.

[Clarice]

Jane, sue posted that hot air thing last night. It's so poorly written it's almost useless to me. I think that it indicates that ACORN was working hand in glove with the Obama campaign which gave it the list off maxed out donors; ACORN then tried to get more money from them which they used to assist the campaign.

Surely, it adds to what we know but i think the bigger corruption was the Dems refusal to allow a full panel on the FRC to oversee the election and Obama then dismantling the online monitoring of donors.I am persuaded that millions of illegal funds were obtained that way and there was no way to stop it in time.

[Chronicle of a death foretold. Hey, it didn't take long.]

Holy Cow, is right, Jane. Anita has bated. This is a blow at the heart of the beast.
=========

[Running between the lines at Battle Mountain.]

Page after page I wonder if I like 'The Glass Castle'.
========================

[narciso the harpoon]

One thinks of all the President's men, they made a big deal of Kenneth H. DAhlberg whose check ended up in one of the Plumber's hands.
but CAP, the Journolist, et al has made most of that kind of work superfluous

[Let's hear from the reporter. And from the Times. And from the Administration about the Campaign. Open. Sesame.]

Now, Clarice, look at the forked tongue serpent atop the acorn. We're gettin' down to business, here.
=================

[centralcal]

I agree Clarice - the story surrounding the Montcrief list was useless. I see why Sue had a headache. I am sure there is an ACORN "story" there, but I'll be darned if I could figure out the gist of it. Your explanation sounds reasonable to me.

[Typical of Tyrants, and Tyler, too.]

Several themes lately of intemperate blasts from the campaign and the White House. So, the press were the beaten silent women of this world?
=================

[JJ]

Webb should go write another book. Instead.

[Clarice]

**I meant the FEC above**

Gov Wilder notes , in criticizing Webb, that had it not been for the 9000 vote margin minorities gave him he'd not have won.

Well, I say, that and the WaPo macaca steer on the scales.

[Neo]

This is a cleaver strategy put forward by Webb.

The Democratic Party pushed this group, poor Whites, into the hands of Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and Webb is saying, more rightly than wrong, that it wouldn't take much for Democrats to win back a chunk of them.

[Neo]

Has anybody seen a copy of "Politics in Command" by Celia Sojourn and Billy Ayers ?

[Ignatz]

--America still owes a debt to its black citizens...--

No, I think the left owes blacks an apology, not the rest of us. The institutional racism of the past is gone.
The only debt remaining which hasn't been repaid is the social pathologies and the permemnet underclass the left foisted on blacks with their paternalistic welfare state, crippling insistence on helpless black victimization and racist, mimimalist expectations.

[Clarice]

I would only take torpedoing the party's die hard base neo. I must say I find Webb a master strategist..I think racial preferences are not the only thing keeping poorer whites from voting dem...there's defense and taxes and--heck--most of what makes that party what it is.

[Pagar]

"It's so poorly written it's almost useless to me."

It seems to me that just the fact that it is out there is important. Surely there is someone that could be teamed up with her to improve the delivery in getting the message she has out into the public.

I have always felt that the Obama campaign got millions in illegal contributions. I also believe they got millions of illegal votes. For example, There is no way illegal votes for Franken did not spill over in the Obama count.

[Danube of Thought]

Really clever of some halfwit to transcribe the entire bloody article here. The boldface was really helpful too.

Anybody know what Allen is doing now? Has he expressed any interest in running again? Seems to me the iron is getting pretty hot, and the symbolism of his winning would be marvelous.

[Clarice]

It's rumored that he's considering running again. I'd rather wish someone else did because though the Post treated him unfairly he did very poorly on responding to attacks. He is not quick on his feet, shall we say.

If he does run, he ought to bar the Post from any pressers and refuse any interviews with them. Obama gets away with it even though he never received that treatment. And he ought to hire a first rate communiations director who better prepares him for this stuff.

[Danube of Thought]

He is definitely not the sharpest bulb in the deck. His father was a bit zany, too.

[Clarice]

There's a report that Mexican gangs of highly trained killers have taken over multiple ranches in Texas near the border.

Boy, is Obama having a summer to remember.

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/BREAKING_MULTIPLE_RANCHES_IN_LAREDO_TX_TAKEN_OVER_BY_LOS_ZETAS/31835> How's that immigration policy working?

Maybe Calderon can explain how this helps out diplomatic policies.

[Danube of Thought]

James Taranto interviews Randy Barnett on the constitutionality of Obamacare. A nice read; two very smart guys.

[Jane]

BTW this morning on Fox they had an Obama campaign guy in to defend the charges that he stole the election and respond to the video that is going around.

Allison Camarado tore him to shreds in her best Megyn Kelly way.

[Extraneus]

I don't care about Webb's motivation. The point he's making is valid. The problem he's highlighting has corrupted our entire country, virtually every institution. AA has given us Obama, the CRA and resultant real estate bubble and crash, multiple Supreme Court justices, thousands of government functionaries and probably millions of under-qualified students and employees all throughout the land.

AA is unconstitutional and immoral. It violates our founding documents and is inimical to the concept of fairness itself. If Webb could create an opening for eliminating AA, I think I'd vote for him myself, classless scheming scumbag or not. Besides, if he gets any level of support from voters, it could cause a huge bloodbath in the Democratic Party.

[Neo]

I would only take torpedoing the party's die hard base neo.

But Blacks are what ? .. 90%+ Democratic ?
Extending "Black/minority" benefits to "poor whites" costs them virtually nothing politically.

[narciso the harpoon]

I know Ex, I've read most of his writings on the subjects since the 90s but he gets in there, and he votes the straight party line,
he betrays the Scot Irish that he championed,
he imposes every quota every which way, through Sutton/Dillinger, the Health care bill

[Extraneus]

Sorry to be redundant, I know I posted virtually the same thing on another thread, but what the hell. At least it's not OT here.

Go Webb. I hope they attack him for endangering their spoils system and he goes all macho and defends himself.

[matt]

"seventy percent of the troops in Iraq believe we should be out within a year. A majority of the people within the military no longer support the approach of this administration." - Senator James Webb, 2007, on the Surge.

[Clarice]

MSNBC:
KABUL — Two U.S. troops are missing in eastern Afghanistan, a military official said Saturday. An Afghan official said one may have been killed and the other captured by the Taliban. Also, five American troops died Saturday in bombings in the south where international forces are stepping up the fight against the insurgents.

A NATO statement Saturday said the two service members left their compound the previous day in Kabul but did not return. The statement did not identify the pair by nationality but U.S. officials said they were American.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information. The military has dispatched vehicles and rotary-winged aircraft to search for them and their vehicle. Local official: 'They came down the wrong road'

Samer Gul, district chief of Charkh district in Logar province, said Saturday that a four-wheel drive armored vehicle was seen Friday night by a guard working for the district chief's office. The guard tried to flag down the vehicle, carrying a driver and a passenger, but it kept going, Gul said.

[boris]

"attack him for endangering their spoils system"

More likely IMO is having made the issue radioactive for the GOP ... dimorats in iffy races can exploit it to keep or win seats.

Minorities will accept that it's just code the same way feminists listened between the lines for BJ.

[Neo]

I looked around and even the moderately Left of center folks, while not hating this idea, don't like it. I think it admits that they were wrong, which is true.

[matt]

So the Journo- List's latest coordinated campaign is to smear the Republicans by any means necessary as racist. First it was that clip on Rick Sanchez' show, and now the Daily beast is doing the same.

These Leftist scumbags are lower than snake shit. LUN

[macphisto]

"Extending "Black/minority" benefits to "poor whites" costs them virtually nothing politically"

to the contrary, extending "black benefits" to non-blacks infuriates poor blacks, who as a class consider themselves uniquely deserving of governmental succor. in San Francisco, where i used to live, Asians have been driven out of housing projects by blacks on the grounds that "this is for US." n.b. the SF Housing Authority did nothing to protect the victims, who eventually had to sue in Federal court.

[Sandy Daze]

24 July 2010
Baghdad

I am a Virginia voter.

Webb is dead to me.

A man is known by the company he keeps, Webb is in lockstep with the Socialist-Communist cabal running the administration.

Any single no vote from Webb would have stopped Healthcare, the Financial industry takeover, and numerous other fellow-traveler bits of legislation.

Nope, Webb is known as someone who can be counted upon to do the master's bidding, he is safely on the reservation, . . .errr plantation.

So, how to publicly open space between himself and the cabal, all the while remaining a countable, reliable vote on piece after piece of legislation to destroy our country?

Ha - write a clever column -- provocative !! daring !!! Webb-of-old !!!! -- which can be pointed to as distancing himself from the Administration, while still voting to support every piece of anti-American legislation.

Hey Webb, we are all racists now, your column is so last year.

CRAVEN. DISGUSTING. DISINGENUOUS. Webb is in league with communists and socialists. When did Webb turn red, ehh?

When did Webb become a eunuch? I guess that is why the person Webb loves the most, is himself.

What a piece of stuff Webb is.

I think more than a few JOM readers, Webb and I took a durable oath to:

". . . solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

When did Webb give up on the constitution?

TRAITOR.

Take good care,
Sandy

[Pagar]

From Matt's 01:10 PM LUN
"a SPLC expert on hate groups,"
IMO, the SPLC is one of the most dangerous hate groups in America. Getting hate group info from them is an absolute disgrace.

[Neo]

Too Funny

[narciso the harpoon]

I saw that on Ace, well she does have him in a 'headlock' often, but in context, it was one of the diminishing spots we saw almost two years ago, who put this tripe together, I smell Axeltuf

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

From the comments following Green's article:
"I do know that Webb’s little “boost” from the Washington Pest in re the “macaca” smear against George Allen hasn’t been forgotten. And if there’s one thing that Virginians HATE is to have anything from Washington-effin’-DC have a say in our politics.

We are the state of Washington and Jefferson and Madison and Mason.
DC is the home of Marion Barry…"

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

From Clarice's 12:00 link:
"The Los Zetas are highly trained killers initially trained by United States Special Operations forces to combat the drug cartes within Mexico. As the drug war heated up the Zetas saw more money in working for the cartels and joined up with the Gulf Cartel."

[Captain Hate]

His father was a bit zany, too.

Troo dat; he was best as a defensive coordinator. He knew how to inspire his players for sure. The circumstance of his death was one of the most inspirationally tragic stories I've ever been aware of.

[susan]

The Left is master of The Narrative, I have no doubt moderate-independents will buy Webb's lie.

"According to the poll, 26% of Democrats believe that the Second Coming “will definitely” happen within the next four decades. In comparison 19% of Republicans believe this."

And here all this time I was told 'religious fundamentalism' was a right-wing thing; no need to wonder why Democrat president signed DOMA into law.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/one-fourth-of-democrats-think-jesus-will-definitely-return-in-40-years-98931644.html

[Thomas Collins]

I hope Mr. Allen gets another chance for the US Senate. Allen spoke to the UMass Amherst College Republican Club when my son was a student there. I went to Allen's talk, and took my mother so she could see her grandson introduce Allen (my mother is a dyed in the wool Dem, but she enjoys being with her grandkids, even if they are introducing GOPers). In any event, Allen gave a very thoughtful speech (I hadn't realized how knowledgeable he is on energy policy), and after the talk, was the picture of class when my son introduced him to my mother. A true gentleman.

[Rick Ballard]

I think I'll go with Extraneous on the thoughts expressed in the column and Sandy Daze as to the "character" of the person expressing them.

As to the efficacy of the "strategy" - BO will still be Stinking right through his loss in '12 and Webb would have to generate a Blue Dog splinter in opposition that actually votes against the racialist policies of the Maladministration in order to have any effect. I can't see it happening but I'd be happy to watch the Blue Dogs give it the old college try.

[Neo]

The ruling class's appetite for deference, power, and perks grows. The country class disrespects its rulers, wants to curtail their power and reduce their perks. The ruling class wears on its sleeve the view that the rest of Americans are racist, greedy, and above all stupid. The country class is ever more convinced that our rulers are corrupt, malevolent, and inept. The rulers want the ruled to shut up and obey. The ruled want self-governance. The clash between the two is about which side's vision of itself and of the other is right and which is wrong. Because each side -- especially the ruling class -- embodies its views on the issues, concessions by one side to another on any issue tend to discredit that side's view of itself. One side or the other will prevail. The clash is as sure and momentous as its outcome is unpredictable.

[hit and run]

Clarice:
Jane, sue posted that hot air thing last night.

Pheh,pheh,and pheh.

Anyone seen the http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/07/23/revealed-the-obama-donor-list/>Obama donor list yet?

From Anita Moncrief in Hot Air's Green Room...

Posted by: hit and run | July 23, 2010 at 03:50 PM

And...

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/07/23/revealed-the-obama-donor-list/?logged_in=1#commentform>I have a nasty headache. Someone help me out. What exactly is on the donor list that should stand out at me?

Posted by: Sue | July 23, 2010 at 09:11 PM

I'm 4+ hours ahead of Sue. But Sue is all that gets remembered.

Fine. You only love me for my body. Not my comments.

Pheh.

[Pagar]

Rick Ballard, back on a "revising the Shirley Sherrod thread at 08:15 pm on the 22nd, you posted links regarding the 'new payday loan authority for the US govt, etc, in response to one of my posts. Both links were new to me and I appreciate them. The potential for abuse by the Obama admin- istration is huge. My guess is the payday loan office will be next to the absentee ballot office. It would not surprise me at all to find out that the loans would be forgiven if the person voted the right way.

[Thomas Collins]

I love you for that great tractor in your Facebook photo, H&R!

[cathyf]

Was this what you were trying to say TC?

[Jane]

This is a repeat from the last thread.

If you want in on the Soylent brigade, you MUST email Hit at: jomhitandrun @ gmail . com or me at [email protected]. (If you already emailed me you have to do it again, because I'm pretty much an idiot and seem to have lost everything.)

Once I get an email list we will consult with Matt and Janet about what is best for them - money or goods, because they are doing the packages.

How long does it take to get to Afghanistan anyway? We are thinking of you Soylent.

[Thomas Collins]

That's a great song, cathyf! Now we all know H&R's secret to attracting the ladies!

[Neo]

But in one of its most surprising moves so far, it has done the opposite, proposing what would be the most radical reorganization of the National Health Service, as the system is called, since its inception in 1948.

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.

ObamaCare is so .. yesterday

[Rick Ballard]

Pagar,

An examination of the data regarding delinquencies and chargeoffs suggests that the payday loan provision, like several other provisions in FinReg, was preparing the backdrop for Act II of the financial crisis occasioned by Democrat control of Congress. At two full years into this mess, delinquencies continue to rise and chargeoffs have barely paused.

Storefronts bearing Uncle Sugar's Payday Treats may become quite common before BOzo gets the heave ho.

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

I don't trust Obama to lose. I feel he has tricks up his sleeve. Remember when everyone thought Hillary was a shoo in? Didn't work out that way. The item I read yesterday at the at the donor list whistlblower's site, about his army community organizers scares me.

[Danube of Thought]

Wonder if Berwick will fall deeply in love with the revised NHS.

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

army *of* community organizers

[matt]

Neo;

I blogged on the opposing directions of the US and UK health care systems a week or two ago.LUN

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

Off topic, but in light of Obama's panicked overreaction to the Shirley Sharrod event, how do we feel about him getting a 2am phone call? YIKES!!!!! scary thought

[Old Lurker]

Cathy, you have too much time on your hands.

[Ignatz]

--Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)--

I must have missed it Chub, but what prompted the name change?

[cathyf]

Ah, c'mon, OL -- that was the tune that popped into my mind back when hit first set that as his fb photo. It only took me 30 seconds to look up the video on youtube and post the link!

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

Several threads back I commented that I found it mystifying that the obesity registry rule is in the fin reg bill, and the bullion tax law is in the healthcare bill. When Rick answered me he called me Chubby (he probably doesn't remember but I thought it was kinda funny.)

[hit and run]

Cathy:
Ah, c'mon, OL -- that was the tune that popped into my mind back when hit first set that as his fb photo. It only took me 30 seconds to look up the video on youtube and post the link!

Truth be told -- I just spent 10 days in Idaho without getting on that tractor -- even once. Brother hit and run took all the kids/cousins on rides (some in the bucket!) -- and Papa hit and run mowed the ten arcre field.

And there I was,without the tractor,left . . . drinking.

How smart am I?

[Sue]

But Sue is all that gets remembered.

Volunteer to pose with only pink earmuffs on and people will remember you. ::wink::

I figured it out, with a little help from someone over at HA. I'm reading from the bottom up, so if this has already been posted, ignore...

Obama gave Acorn his maxed out donor list. Acorn used that donor list to solicit more funds for the election of Obama. Collusion.

[Rick Ballard]

"he probably doesn't remember"

Of course I remember it, I've got a memory like... one of those metal catchy thingies.

[hrtshpdbox]

It was Webb who, as a new Senator meeting with the POTUS, admitted to wanting to physically attack W when W brought up Webb's son in conversation. What a classless jerk.

[Army of Davids]

Teen unemployment is up to 25%.

3 minimum wages in 4 years from Pelosi and Reid.

It is particularly brutal on African American male teens.

Stupid economic policies have consequences.

This is a serious problem that consistently goes under-reported. A challenge to journalists who fancy themselves "social conscious"....give this story the coverage it deserves.

[Pagar]

Is Collusion the same as fraud?

I would really like to see the right give Anita Moncrief the help she needs to put a lot of political hurt on the leftists.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Pagar-

I would say it's akin to money laundering.

[squaredance]

America owes not debt to its black citizens. This is utter claptrap. Not one black alive to day was a slave or the son of a slave. No other ethnic minority group in our history has been so coddled and catered too. We have had a great Civil War, ushered in a immensely destructive welfare system and have debased our educational system and the meritocracy of America, such as it was.

If anything, they own us. This is utter nonsense.
It is a fake as global warming. If anything, they own America for decades of welfare an special treatment.

Enough of this. It was Democrat electioneer back in the '60s; it is democrat electioneering now.

"Civil Rights" is the chief method the Left came to power in the USA. They used it quite cynically and it is time that we admit it.

[Pagar]

"2 AM phone call"
Drudge doesn't seem to know Texas has been invaded. Anyone see any sign that any one cares? Are we just going let them take over America? It must be obvious to everyone in the world by now that American borders mean nothing and will not be defended.

[boris]

"a memory like... one of those metal catchy thingies."

Me too. Think it's called a colander.

[Jane]

America owes not debt to its black citizens.

It seems like Obama has allowed you and Jim Webb to say these things, and if nothing else, overcoming that hurdle is progress.

Oh and I agree that no reparations are owed. It's a con game.

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

Boris lol

[Pagar]

Now Sister Toldjah says "Texas has not been Invaded so apparently disregard my 07:16 PM as far as the Texas part.

[Chubby (formerly Parking Lot)]

that would explain why it wasn't on Drudge

I read Drudge's biography on wikipedia recently ... it is interesting and a bit wierd

[dick]

I still remember a libertarian military guy who came out in support of Webb. He said that although Allen supported all the things he believed in and did a good job he felt that Webb with his military background would do a better job. I wonder what he says about that now. He also supported Obama because he thought Obama had a better grasp of economics than McCain. Kinda makes you wonder about those who support these people.

I have come to the firm belief that our intelligentsia are so used to dealing with words that they spend all their logic on what these pols say instead of looking at what they do and therefore support those who really do not have their best interests at heart. And they don't seem to understand that at all. Webb is just another case in point.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carter both had "military backgound" dick. Didn't seem to help, did it?

[Clarice]

dick, so this guy thought it more important for a Senator to have a military background than a president?

Can I have his phone number? I have some wonderful business opportunities I'd like to talk to him about.