Inconsistent Arguments

Obama spoke to a backyard gathering about his religious faith but also his economic faith:

The unusual exchange came as Mr. Obama continued his tour of American backyards, dropping in at the home of a disabled veteran and a schoolteacher here. He used his opening remarks to warn that Republicans would “cut back our education spending by 20 percent,” while spending $700 billion to give tax breaks to the rich – money that he said the United States would have to borrow from China, Saudi Arabia or some other wealthy nation.

Really?  The normal objection to "tax cuts for the rich" is that it will be saved rather than spent, thereby faling to stimulate the economy.  But of course, if it is saved then the tax cut is self-financed (NO, not in a Laffer curve sense!) since the rise in public indebtedness is offset by the rise in private saving. 

 

Comments

[Rob Crawford]

Note that the over-spending on education is not done with loans from China, Saudi Arabia or "some other wealthy nation".

(And WTF? What happened to the days when we were THE wealthy nation? Thanks, Democrats!)

[steve]

since the rise in public indebtedness is offset by the rise in private saving.

And not only that, the Treasury would be borrowing from Americans, not those troublesome Saudis and Chinese.

[NK]

STOP STOP STOP the madness. You treat this stuff as if Barry O knows WTF he's talking about when it comes to finance or policy. It's painfully obvious he doesn't and doesn't care to educate himself. He only knows what Axe or some other flunky hands him to read at the next photo-op. This became so clear when the HCR reform nonsense was going on. Barry would say the most demonstrably false things about the Bill--- even the Legacy Media knew it was false. Why?-- he really didn't know what was in the Bill. All he knew was that the gigantic expansion of the Medicaid entitlement was in the Bill. That's what he wanted, his bottom line... make whitey pay for lots more Medicaid. Barry is still a Medicaid hustler from the Southside. The rest is PR.

[Dave (in MA)]

Why doesn't Jughead tour my backyard?

I'll leave the rake and mower out by the shed.

[jimmyk]

I'm sure CNN will be all over this with their crack fact-checking team.

[Dave (in MA)]

spending $700 billion to give tax breaks to the rich

In loony liberal lingo, tax cuts are "spending" and tax hikes are "investments".

[Rob Crawford]

In loony liberal lingo, tax cuts are "spending" and tax hikes are "investments".

I'm still reeling over the idea that the money spent on education comes from nowhere, while the government has to borrow just to not confiscate from working people.

[bgates]

If Republicans want to extend tax cuts on people who provide the goods and services their fellow citizens find most valuable, a naive static analysis says that would decrease federal revenue by $70 billion per year.

The 2011 budget estimate for the Department of Feducation is $71 billion.

A solution suggests itself....

[Janet]

From Tom's linked article - "...kind of life that I would want to lead – being my brother and sister’s keeper.”

"Am I my brother's keeper" is from Genesis 4
From Answers.com - A saying from the Bible's story of Cain and Abel. After Cain had murdered his brother Abel, God asked him where his brother was. Cain answered, “I know not; am I my brother's keeper?”

So Obama's big favorite Bible quote is from Cain? The guy who murdered his brother?...great....

[bgates]

$700 billion to give tax breaks to the rich

I don't know how we're supposed to be able to afford tax increases. The BEA says the personal savings rate is around 6%. That means Americans are already dealing with expenses that are nine point four times household income*. And somehow he wants us to pay more? Insanity.

*Annual savings rate of 6% implies annual spending rate of 94%. By extending the dollar amount over ten years without saying that's what I'm doing, which is how Obama got the $700 billion figure, I derive a total for expenses of 940% of annual income.

[Janet]

and he doesn't keep his brother or his Aunt. Obama should say, ...kind of life I would want to lead - making the citizens of Massachusetts be my relative's keeper.

[DebinNC]

I wish someone would ask Obama if to differentiate between tax breaks, tax cuts, and tax credits. I think "break" is a focus-grouped word to denote something unfair or undeserved, but what's fair about sending tax credit checks to folks who don't pay taxes?

WaPo from Obama today: "While the United States "is still predominantly Christian," he said, "we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and . . . their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own."

That's ridiculous imo.

[Rob Crawford]

That's ridiculous imo.

Isn't it stunning how the left has gone from "religious freedom means being able to slander, defame, and desecrate anything, anywhere, anytime" to "how DARE you object to their beliefs"?

If ACT-UP can break into a church during mass and commit vandalism as "protest", you'd think expressing discomfort with some of the more violent aspects of Islam would be acceptable...

[DebinNC]

and he doesn't keep his brother or his Aunt

Janet, that's a great point. I hope Clarice will work that into a CP.

[MarkO]

The more he blathers, the better for sane Americans. Let him talk non-stop. He's just not that smart. Did I mention he's a liar? Yes. I did.

[Janet]

their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own."

That statement makes all beliefs nonsense. If a belief is wrong, do I have to revere & respect it? I will not.
Individuals should be treated with tolerance, but not their beliefs if their beliefs are wrong.
A long ago letter to the editor stated it well...making the point about the difference between tolerance & acceptance.
This same point comes up for me with discussions of homosexuality.

Anyway, all religions can't be right because they all teach something different. That is just a stupid statement.

[Walter]

Since you mention Clarice's pieces, I would note that Taranto goes after Instapundit's wife in his current piece. No respect for anyone, I tell you. Where will the madness end?

[Andrew_M_Garland]

Tom Maguire wrote:
(1) "The normal objection to "tax cuts for the rich" is that it will be saved rather than spent, thereby failing to stimulate the economy."
(2) "But of course, if it is saved then the tax cut is self-financed, since the rise in public indebtedness is offset by the rise in private saving."

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[1] This objection is entirely misguided. Savings support investment and business development, and create much more economic opportunity (jobs and GDP) than consumption spending. (I don't assume that you support that objection.)

The mantra is "70% of the economy is retail spending". Another view is that 30% of the economy is savings and investment. An increase in savings is the basis for increasing the production of consumer goods at lower prices. Consumer goods are real, continuing income.

People do not prosper because money moves around or stops moving around. The money is the result of an efficient management of resources and labor to produce what people want (can pay for). Building more houses did not make our society rich, because many people couldn't pay for them. The government got us into a mess because they encouraged everyone to buy a house, no matter what.

Then, the government soaked up resources to bail out the banks that implemented government policy to make sub-standard loans, the loans that couldn't be paid back.

--> Cargo Cult Economics

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[2] Self-financed? Private saving does not balance public debt, unless we grant the government the right to seize those savings at any moment to pay off the public debt. I don't support that power.

[centralcal]

All of a sudden, Feingold says he will be appearing with Obama tonight. (Rahm must have sent over a dead fish or something to scare him.)

[Cecil Turner]

In loony liberal lingo, tax cuts are "spending" and tax hikes are "investments".

Bingo. And besides, in the case in point we're talking about continuing the tax rates as they are currently. To Dems, failing to pass a scheduled tax hike is "spending"? Laughable stupidity.

[MikeS]

$700 billion to give tax breaks to the rich

What ever happened to gratitude?
There was a time when Medieval serfs and plantation slaves were grateful when allowed to keep some of what rightfully belonged to their overlords.

[bgates]

their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect

No mention of how Muslims, atheists, or Buddhists have to regard Christianity.

It's ok for Obama to split the country into "we" and "they", because he only does it to lecture Christians and/or white people, so it's not divisive.

God, how I'd love for anybody who comments here to get half an hour on national tv with this buffoon.

He's just not that smart.

Slapping a wasp nest with your penis isn't that smart. Obama's a fucking moron.

[Clarice]

Cecil, did you check your email and see that somehow your correspondence with a third person ended up in my gmail account? I'm flattered of course to think you want to share everything with me but as neither of you addressed the mail to me, I am mystified.

[Clarice]

bgates wins again today: "Slapping a wasp nest with your penis isn't that smart. Obama's a fucking moron."

[harrjf]

Quite a few sirens in downtown Madison this afternoon. I understand O-boy is coming to a downtown hotel for a small meet-n-greet before addressing the hoi polloi.

For those of you not familar with Madison's geography, downtown is an ithsmus with only a few streets that allow passage from east to west. It will be interesting to see just how bad the traffic is screwed up as a result of street closures.

They are making a big deal about not having a visit by a sitting president in 50 years but that needs to be qualified. It is the university campus has not had a visit. O-boy was here last Oct and visited an elementary school.

[BB Key]

Obama says:"No tax cuts for Millionaires and Billionaires" ......OK extend the tax cuts to $800,000.00 single and $937,500.00 joint filers.

[Cecil Turner]

Hey Clarice, no idea how I managed that one, but the original has your addee on it, so I obviously must've fat-fingered the "reply to" button. Sorry about that.

[Janet]

You know that whole Cain quote made me mindful of a similar discussion here at JOM. It was in August '09 when Obama said, "We are God's partners in matters of life & death."
and when Obama said the reforms aim to carry out one of God's commandments - "I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper."

So in August Hit says ""Obama likes the cut of Cain's jib" Death Panels?....'Brother's Keeper' Panels." Hahahahaha!

Obama also used the line in his 2004 Dem Convention speech.
"A belief that we are connected as one people. If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work."

[Clarice]

That's okay, Cecil. Next time I hope the subject's a bit saucier..*wink*

[Clarice]

janet, if Obama were any fuller stuffed with carp, he'd be a gefillte fish.

I have no respect for anyone who falls for his baloney. I never understood how anyone could have,

[Rick Ballard]

Janet,

I believe that "brother's keeper" goes into the Bro BO Brainfart Collection as a conflation of Cain's question and "least of my brothers" (Matthew 25:40). Given that BOzo left the least of his brothers living in a tar paper shack in Kenya as an example to us all, I must say that there is an inadvertent element of honesty to this particular screw up.

[Extraneus]

God, how I'd love for anybody who comments here to get half an hour on national tv with this buffoon.

I was just thinking about what a bunch of hanging curve-balls Obama threw during the debates, and how McCain didn't even attempt a swing. Just hoped for a walk.

Which potential candidate will be able to hit one of those "tax cuts are 'unfunded' government spending" or "profits are overhead" meatballs out of the park in the most devastatingly sarcastic and biting manner during the next round in 2012?

The man deserves to be utterly humiliated, and I think that would best be handled by a woman -- preferably an attractive one with a cheerful smile, but I'm perfectly willing to consider other batters.

[Janet]

He's going back to his old material to try to capture some of the Barack Black Eagle magic!

[jimmyk]

bgates wins again today

Unfair. In the spirit of Obamanism, bgates should have his winnings redistributed to the rest of us who through no fault of our own lack his comedic talent. The same applies to Rick and h&r, among others.

[jimmyk]

"It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work."

I'm guessing he missed the Adam Smith part of his undergrad education, such as

It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.

Or

I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good.

[Extraneus]

"My attitude is that if the comedy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the yuks around, it's good for everybody."

[Janet]

You know I had never read that Dem convention speech...boy the wisenheimer part of my brain is in overdrive.

"I believe we can provide jobs to the jobless, homes to the homeless, and reclaim young people in cities across America from violence and despair."

Not workin out quite the way he planned...

[Rob Crawford]

I figure Obama goes on and on about "my brother's keeper" because it's one of the few Biblical lines he knows. I doubt Wright quoted that much scripture in his sermons, and I doubt a guy raised with the oogy-boogy anthropological view of religion (and contempt for believers) bothered to read the Bible on his own.

He might even think that using the phrase is a way of "reaching out" to the poor benighted bitter clingers.

[Rob Crawford]

I'm guessing he missed the Adam Smith part of his undergrad education

If Adam Smith was on the curriculum, it was for a mandatory two-minute-hate.

[Jay8]

while spending $700 billion to give tax breaks to the rich – money that he said the United States would have to borrow from China, Saudi Arabia or some other wealthy nation.

The incoherence and ignorance are simply staggering.

[Captain Hate]

I was just thinking about what a bunch of hanging curve-balls Obama threw during the debates, and how McCain didn't even attempt a swing. Just hoped for a walk.

The ol' Maverick was dished up so many balloons right in the wheelhouse and the stupid SOB laid off all of 'em. The mighty Maverick has pussed out.

Btw, since all the local news was abuzz with the worst ex president having been taken to Metro general (where they stow all the alkies and crackheads) with a tummy ache, I subsequently found out that he was to appear at a bookstore about 5 miles from me where they showed a crowd of quislings and lowlifes with sad weepy faces because Dhimmi Earl wouldn't be making the trip. If I'd have found out about it earlier and he'd appeared, I might have asked for him to sign a copy of Laura Ingraham's Obama Diaries with the inscription "From the worst ex President for a book about Teh One that will take my title".

[narciso]

Well that would be a sight to see, Ex, a rematch as it were, who has been the one who has been to cut to the quick,and reveal 'the emperor has no clothes' not McCain, certainly
btw, one could ask Mr. Onyango, if he really is his 'brother's keeper'

[Buford Gooch]

Walter, I hope your comments about Taranto are tongue in cheek. Otherwise, I guess you just don't get his humor. He was not "going after" either Clarice of Mrs Insty. He was making light of their subject matter, not of them for presenting it.

[squaredance]

well, that carp he spreads in the "back yards of America" is swallowed hook, line and sinker by a whole lot of folks, including those folks in that "middle class backyard". Much more than you would imagine. It isn't that he is a "moron", it is that he is a Marxist demagogue. He would not say it if there where no takers. He is speaking to the Left, and their are a lot more of them than people here imagine.

The whole "brother's keeper" is just a case in point. The hypocrisy and the misuse of this is truly amazing, but people just eat it up. That religious leaders do not stand up and once and denounce this sort of misuse--by misusing this scripture he is literally putting words in God's mouth--shows how worn out our moral fiber is.

This is Class War stuff right out of the 1930's. This is unalloyed COMINTERN propaganda.

One would laugh, except for the fact that they are actively recreating those conditions.

The whole matter is the political equivalent of pornography. But do not forget that he seems to have a solid 35% to 40% of the country behind him.

This how degraded we have become. He knows who he is targeting with this agi-prop, and that demographic does not come to JOM. We now have a President that openly lambastes "The Rich" on the campaign trail in front of middle class Americans in their back yards. It has come to that. I do not think that we have seen such brazen anti-capitalist, anti-property behavior from the government since the early days of the New Deal. There is nothing funny about this--nothing at all.

Just what does "no tax cut for billionaires" mean. Well it means that they are somehow illegitimate that they somehow are avoiding their proper punishment or duty by not paying through the nose to keep a parasitical and self appointed elite in the pink and in charge. This is how Obama and his wrecking crew think. This is how they justify their thievery and corruption. Again, it is not that they are "morons", it is that they are corrupt and immoral. Quite a few seem to agree with them.

Just when did this become a mainstream platform in this nation, at least main stream to the point that a POTUS can self-righteously shout it from the roof tops? Have we heard this out of a sitting President since FDR?

The question is a simple one: Are there enough of us left and do we have enough time to turn the tide.

I tell you, if this Nov. is close, even if the dems lose it will be an extremely bad sign.

We are at a crossroads. We must renounce all that Obama and the Democrats embody, and we must do so decisively and unambiguously.

It is a sign of great weakness and decadence that we are at this juncture in the first place. We have little room for error now.

[Ignatz]

--their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own.--

The idea that a Christian should "revere" beliefs that to a Christian are anathema to God and seperate their adherents from God is idiotic.

[Clarice]

I belong to this club for retired diplomats etc because it's inexpensive and a convenient place to put up out of towners, have fundraisers, etc. Today's newsletter, advertises a forum next week featuring Strobe Talbott, now president of Brokings (once the USSR's man at the NYT and State). The subject of his talk "Fast Forward:Ethics and Politics in the Age of Global Warning".

I pictur an earnest crowd of credentialed morons lapping up his every word.

[narciso]

Bill Clinton reveals his true colors, once again, in the LUN.

[PD]

Republicans would “cut back our education spending by 20 percent,” while spending $700 billion to give tax breaks to the rich

Whereas Obama voted for $700 billion for the TARP bill to bail out wealthy Wall St. bankers.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet]

Squaredance, you sound like our Tom Paine. Keep it up. I wish you could get some time on FoxNews or some equally well-watched outlet.

[PD]

All of a sudden, Feingold says he will be appearing with Obama tonight.

Holy cow, now I need to seriously consider canceling my sock sorting so I can attend.

For those of you not familar with Madison's geography, downtown is an ithsmus with only a few streets that allow passage from east to west. It will be interesting to see just how bad the traffic is screwed up as a result of street closures.

Yeah. I was amused that the headline in yesterday morning's paper wasn't any of the usual drivel about how historic, significant, momentous the visit would be, but that it would tie up traffic.

[PD]

“I’m a Christian by choice,” the president said.

Flash poll: How about you Christians here, were you forced into it?

[Captain Hate]

Bill Clinton reveals his true colors, once again

After Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones, you'd think the son of Hope Arkansas' town slut would keep his grits-hole shut about women.

[Extraneus]

Maybe he meant that he wasn't born into it.

Either way, someone should ask him why he chose to be a Christian. What are the odds the word "Christ" would be part of the answer?

[Frau Oma]

Rahm must have sent over a dead fish or something to scare him (Feingold).)\
Seeing Rahm in your shower without his tutu would do it, too.

If that scene appeared in a movie, it would be unbelievable.

[Janet]

That religious leaders do not stand up and once and denounce this sort of misuse--by misusing this scripture he is literally putting words in God's mouth--shows how worn out our moral fiber is.

Great point squaredance...

and I think Rick is correct - Obama mixes the scripture.

[Old Lurker]

Sorry if this has been said...speed reading and all.

What disgusts me about this tax cut stuff is how easily they have established the narrative as if it's about a new tax cut for the wealthy vs the middle class, when as we all know he's trying to arrange things so taxes go up for the rich and not for others. (we already paid the political price for the original cut...how do we have to pay politically twice? Allowed to be cast as they do, it's as if they are not increasing taxes while unemployment is in the high teens. Even the unread probably know not to raise taxes in a recession.

[PD]

Maybe he meant that he wasn't born into it.

Well, that'd distinguish him from no one, because no one is born into it.

Either way, someone should ask him why he chose to be a Christian. What are the odds the word "Christ" would be part of the answer?

This is what he said:

“I’m a Christian by choice,” the president said. “My family, frankly, they weren’t folks who went to church every week. My mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew but she didn’t raise me in the church, so I came to my Christian faith later in life and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead. Being my brothers and sisters’ keeper, treating others as they would treat me, and I think also understanding that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we’re sinful and we’re flawed and we make mistakes and we achieve salvation through the grace of God.”

[Old Lurker]

PD, I had no say in my Baptism. But at Confirmation I was allowed to re-up by my own choice. By re-asserting my faith each week, I renew that by free will.

[RichatUF]

OL-

I'm not sure how valuable having that narrative is. We'll see but the Obama road show seems more out of Axelrod's crook re-election handbook than anything else.

The Dems knew since they first took Congress in Jan 2007 that those cuts would expire and did nothing. Why would anyone be surprised that with the clock winding down and the election not going their way they'd rather be entertained by a Hollywood C-lister then get to work? Also, I think that a nontrivial number of Dems want all the cuts to expire and are using the election calander and the deficit commission as the figleaf. brb

[PD]

The Dems knew since they first took Congress in Jan 2007 that those cuts would expire and did nothing.

They knew this when they were enacted because they were the ones that wanted the expiration date.

[Jane]

they have established the narrative as if it's about a new tax cut for the wealthy vs the middle class, when as we all know he's trying to arrange things so taxes go up for the rich and not for others.

We ought to say that Obama is purposely destroying jobs - because he hates the jobmakers so much.

[RichatUF]

One other point, I think that it is in part personal. Obama would rather let the Bush tax cuts expire than give a Bush economic policy legacy an Obama seal of approval. It in a way explains his hostility to the Constellation program as well (Renyold's cheerleading for Obama's policy of sending US astronauts up on Russian rockets for an as yet agreed to price notwihtstanding).

[jeff]

but won't extending the "middle class tax cuts" cost us 3 TRILLION dollars over 10 years ? How can we afford that ?

[Old Lurker]

I'm with you Rich. I'm just ticked of at the brazenness of the his terminolgy. Not surprised, mind you, just sick of it.

[RichatUF]

jeff-

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. /snark.

In seriousness, McArdle and others have wrotten about it. However, doesn't that get to OL's point, by cementing the narrative as Obama has that question is never asked?

[Jane]

Either the man purposefully wants to destroy more jobs or he is incompetent. And every democrat should be made to say which it is.

[Captain Hate]

My mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew but she didn’t raise me in the church

Spiritual in what way? Did she believe in ghosts? Negro spirituals? There's no evidence that Stanley Ann was driven to anything other than uncircumcized johnsons no matter what Obullshitter tries to con people with.

[RichatUF]

Jane-

Both? His Columbia pomo classes and midnight bull sessions didn't cover things like economic growth. I see that Drudge has flagged up ABC's report about credible but not specific terror warnings.

[Pofarmer]

"The idea that a Christian should "revere" beliefs that to a Christian are anathema to God and seperate their adherents from God is idiotic"

Fit's this regime to a T though.

[squaredance]

Well, Clarice, I can only say that if indeed it was a talk about "Global Warning" there might be some small ray of hope for that crew, but I gather that this is rather not what you meant to say at all.

I often get dragged into one of these hideous little displays of limo-liberal demimondes such as this, and the the level of smug and self-satisfied nincompoopery is quite literally beyond belief or countenance -- it leaves one white knuckled. They are, of course, so obtuse that one may not even obliquely either insult them or rouse within them even the fishiest curiosity. All one may do is disagree with them and then forebear their sniffling and pique, and marvel at the predictable uniformity of it all.

Those who imagine that there is room left for "unity" in this nation across the board do not know our "liberal elites" at first, or even second hand.

But, were it another man's nation, these would be a scenes of great and booming hilarity.

Where is Tom Wolfe when we need him? Where is our Waugh?

The bizarre turn of events which placed this gaggle of 5th rate mediocrities and incompetents above us, and did so at our greatest height and power will baffle the thinking for generations.

[bgates]

the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead. Being my brothers and sisters’ keeper, treating others as they would treat me

In related news....

(The linked Pew poll on religion is dopey. Not as dopey as using "treating others as they would treat me" as an example of the precepts of Christ, but not good.)

[narciso]

I scored 15/15, that's considered some tough test, sheesh,

[Walter]

Buford,

Durned Typepad must have et the [/snark] tag. Twice.

[Porchlight]

it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead.

I note that he doesn't say Christ spoke to him, only "the precepts of Jesus Christ."

And it's "in terms of the kind of life" he "would want to lead." The kind of life he would want to lead. Not the one Jesus wants him to lead.

It's all about Barry, as usual, and it's a very secular-sounding response. I get the impression Obama's commitment to Christ is about as strong as my commitment to the Sunday New York Times.

Like Rob Crawford I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible, and only trots out the "verses" he thinks he knows - which he misapplies in my view. I think it's creepy every time he says "brother's keeper" because as Janet pointed out, when Cain said that in response to God's question, he had just murdered Abel.

(It also reminds me of the film Brother's Keeper, though of course that's not Obama's fault. I found the film very moving.)

[PD]

Spiritual in what way? Did she believe in ghosts? Negro spirituals?

Witchcraft?

[Clarice]

Good catch, squaredance..of course, it was just a typo-it isGlobe Talbott on global warMing.

[daddy the "Extremist"]

"their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect"

Since the only absolutely surefire way for Muslim's to get to Paradise according to the Koran is to die while murdering Christians and Jews and other non-Muslim's in Jihad, why the hell do we have to revere and respect that? Seems to me that instead of revering and respecting such behavior we ought to be crushing it.

Damn I wish I was smarter and could see the nuanced reverence for Scripturally sanctioned mass murder.

[Clarice]

Nite all.

[Dave (in MA)]

Slapping a wasp nest with your penis isn't that smart.

Well, there go my weekend plans.

[JM Hanes]

Watching the bit about Obama's backyard religion on the tube, what struck me was how he stumbled through his answer in an apparent effort to get around mentioning his father(s) in that context.

[bgates]

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

To be fair, that's at least partly because his flesh starts to smolder whenever he tries to pick one up.

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

It wouldn't make much sense to you either if you were used to reading religious books right to left.

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

He knows all that stuff - everything about Jesus Christ, and his parents JoBeth and Larry Christ, all that stuff. When he was in Jerusalem he even saw the Axe of the Apostles. Still sharp.

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

He knows enough not to show anybody that birthmark.

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

No, but he's always heard good things about books about dudes with big beards, so he figures it's cool.

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

No, but he's always heard it has something to do with smack, so he figures it's cool.

I also suspect he doesn't know much about the Bible

A wasp that just got slapped by a penis doesn't know much about the Bible. Obama's a complete ignoramus.

[DVD Tools]

“I think the president gets fired up,” Gibbs said Friday. “We get free advice every day from people that took the bus and rode it into the ditch and now want to give free advice on how you get it out.”

[macphisto]

bgates makes my heart sing. of course, it's singing something they used to play on the "Dr. Demento Show," but i think that's entirely appropriate.

[Rick Ballard]

For anyone curious - this is how Obama keeps his brother. The very stones cry out at this imbecile's stupidity.

[MayBee]

daddy- have you already transported the bear?

[lyle]

Spiritual in what way? Did she believe in ghosts? Negro spirituals? There's no evidence that Stanley Ann was driven to anything other than uncircumcized johnsons no matter what Obullshitter tries to con people with.

OK, it's taken me a full three minutes to stop laughing. And reading it now makes me wheeze. You've made my morning, CH. Thanks.

[Porchlight]

There's no one like our Cap'n.

[daddy the "Extremist"]

MayBee,

Scheduled to transport him later tonight. Am looking forward to seeing how it goes.

[MayBee]

I can't wait to hear about it!

[Captain Hate]

My pleasure lyle.

Tammy Bruce is even more in the tank for teh Cuda than I am which I thought was impossible. She's now castigating all the knobs at whatever dance show Bristol's on for booing at Sarah's presence, which of course I didn't see because I think those shows are pretty stupid (personal opinion; not judgemental of the tastes of those who enjoy them despite how it was phrased). Regarding the booers: Idiots will be idiots and there's nothing you can do about extremely poor behavior of people that have the social skills of hyenas. But imagine the MFM meltdown if Moochelle was the target. Would they all be racists? Why yes; they would be per MessNBC.

[Porchlight]

Cap'n, I think ABC posted a video showing that it was clearly not Sarah Palin but the judges who were being booed because of the score they gave Jennifer Grey and her partner.

Of course the rest of the MFM won't retract the story. But you can read about it here at HotAir.

[Captain Hate]

Ok Porch; I was only reporting on what teh Tam said.

[hit and run]

I told the kids a copule nights ago about a pilot who'd be carrying some unique cargo from Alaska down to the midwest. Asked them to guess what it was...

"Boxes!"
"Legos!"
"Firewood!"
"Books!"
"Halloween costumes!"
"Ice!"

"Nope. A bear"

"A bear? Won't it hurt him?"

"No. It's a friendly bear. It'll be in the co-pilot's seat."

"Really?"

"Just kidding. It'll be in some kind of cage. He'll be safe."

"Is it Mr. xxxx?" (we have two pilots in the neighborhood)

"No, it's one of my blogging friends. He's daddy."

::puzzled looks::

"But . . . but . . . you're daddy."

"Kids,I think you're old enough now. There's something I need to tell you....."

[Porchlight]

Sorry Cap'n, I just meant it as an fyi in case you (or Tammy) hadn't seen the update.

[Captain Hate]

No need to apologize, Porch; thanks for the correction

[unnuyijkseno]

I just met him a couple of months ago, and I've liked him since the day I met him. I told my friend and she got his number and started texting him and she told him he should ask me out and she gave him my #.
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