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September 15, 2010

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Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

jean: Rove ain't backing down at all, he's doubling down.

Thanks for the link CC. After looking at the clip, I'm not sure he's doubling down. His comments on her personal issues go to the obvious point that she will have to answer those questions to the satisfaction of Delaware independents and Republicans to win the general election. That is surely right. Here's hoping she can answer those questions and pull it off.

Dave (in MA)
He isn't stupid so what could be the reason for Roves outburst?
The leaders of the conservative classes of '94 and '00 are uncomfortable with the decentralization of the conservative movement?
Pagar

Say the Republicans take both the House and the Senate, the economy doesn't improve, no bills favored by the Republicans are signed by the President and the 2012 elections are approaching. What do you plan to tell the voters--yes we were in charge but we couldn't do anything? But put us in charge again and this time, we're do better? Doesn't make any sense. IMO, Better to tell them we stopped the money hemorrhaging because we had control of the House and with a Republican controlled Senate and Republican President we can undo much of the damage the Democrats have caused.

Rob Crawford

Well put, Pagar.

Jim Miller

jimmyk - The Senate and House each make their own rules, so a Republican majority in the House could do nothing to stop changes in Senate rules.

jimmyk

What do you plan to tell the voters--yes we were in charge but we couldn't do anything?

Do you think voters would blame Republicans if Barry vetoes all their bills? Whether or not the Republicans control the Senate, if they can prevent the spending and force a bunch of vetoes of popular legislation, they'll do fine. The Democrats weren't blamed for the recession even though they controlled Congress (and in fact were partly responsible).

Clarice

Excellent,jmh. Everyone's in top form this morning.

jimmyk

a Republican majority in the House could do nothing to stop changes in Senate rules

I realize that, but legislation still has to pass the House. The only damage the Senate can do on its own (that I can think of) is confirm presidential appointees. I doubt monkeying with rules will make much of a difference there.

Rob Crawford

Do you think voters would blame Republicans if Barry vetoes all their bills?

Depends on who the press tells them to blame.

JM Hanes

Porchlight:

"An energized and enthusiastic and mad as hell Tea Party is far more instrumental in retaking Congress than a demoralized and dejected Tea Party."

That's one of the best pro-O'Donnell arguments I've heard.


Rob:

"Could win an election in Berkeley"."

LOL!


Captain:

"If Rove wanted to do something useful, he might be contacting Murkowski"

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that he is one of the "establishment" types who are doing just that. He has also poured money into Nevada and into anti-Reid media buys. It's not a stretch to credit him with making/keeping Angle competitive in that race. Crossroads, which he and Ed Gillespie put together, will be helping all over the country with GOTV efforts -- which happens to be one area where Rove's genius is pretty much undisputed. I'd be inclined to give a guy who probably believes he's just seen a Republican majority slip out of reach a break.

Contra a lot of the bravado, we're a whole lot better with Rove than without him The Tea Parties have proved they can field winning candidates in the primaries, but that's an infinitely easier proposition than winning the actual elections to come. If it weren't for Democratic lack of enthusiasm, the numbers for November would be a whole lot closer to a cliff hanger, and now is not the time to be biting any experienced hands, whether it's a gratifying tit for tat or not.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

If you get the reference, I'm so very sorry. If you don't get it, don't ask.

It looks like the meaning is they are ripping themselves apart. I don't think that is true. I think they are all going down together.

I'm concerned that this latest riff might sour my date with Rove. I do hope he comes around.

Capn' (I've told this story before so I apologize for the repitition.) Before Ace started AOS we posted together on the same BBS. He was one of two conservative men and I was the only conservative women - there were hundreds of members, not all interested in politics. At any rate, he was always an asshole to me, even tho we were on the same side 98% of the time. - The only reason I could come up with was my gender. I hope I'm wrong but that was my impression.

anduril

O'Donnell's a flake? Compared to whom? Big F****** deal Biden? Windsurfer RI Boat Docker For It Before Against It Kerry? Must Pass It To Know What Is In It Pelosi? Flip The Middle Finger Obama? Bin Laden Gains Support With Day Care Centers Murray? My Freezer Is Stuffed With Green Cabbage Jefferson?

What a great argument, with a majority of the country revulsed by the arrogance and corruption of the Dems, and distrustful of ALL Congress critters in general. Think I'm a flake? Hey, look at the other guy! It's a bit like Obama's standard line about the economy. Terrific argument to pump up turnout.

My message to Patton Boggs GOPers is this: if you have half a brain, you'll realize that if you snub the Tea Party, you are snubbing your base.

IOW, Conservatives now have to gobble down anything the Tea Party serves up--and like it!

sbw

So, following the links to the Guardian and discovering what O'Donnell is for and against...

Is it that what won the vote for her is that she believes certain things but, unlike Democrats, does not legislatively try to impose those views on others?

Rather than a statist, then, she might draw support from classical liberals and conservatives.

Just wondering...

Ranger

The only damage the Senate can do on its own (that I can think of) is confirm presidential appointees.

I would point out that, given this president, that is one hell of a lot of damage over the next two years.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Say the Republicans take both the House and the Senate, the economy doesn't improve

Well for one thing they will control O's budget - that alone will make the economy improve as well as the stockmarket. Of course we still have to win in 2012 - which is why the whole "repeal health care" is so important.

anduril

if you snub the Tea Party, you are snubbing your base.

Sarah Palin snubbed the Tea Party in New Hampshire. I'm guessing it won't really hurt her.

Hadda laugh at a local newscast referring to "Sarah Palin, the Tea Party leader."

Jeffrey

This is an illuminating story about O'Donnell. But I don't care and I'll still vote for her because my master Rush Limbaugh told me so.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42209.html

Extraneus

I agree. If someone like Clarence Thomas were to pass away between now and 2013, the last thing the country can afford is another Sotomayor or Kagen on the court in his place. Nevermind the inability of a Republican minority to subpoena the administration, which would be a damned shame.

Janet

now is not the time to be biting any experienced hands,

I am so leery of the experience hands. It seems that they are too willing to compromise when the MFM starts squealing and running bogus polls.

Pagar

"The Democrats weren't blamed for the recession even though they controlled Congress (and in fact were partly responsible)."

IMO, The Democrats weren't blamed for the recession because the leftist propaganda readers wouldn't publish anything that said the Democrats Congress and were responsible. The Republicans won't have that luxury.

Captain Hate

JMH, I hope you're right; despite my feelings regarding Rove and his conservative bona fides I'd rather have him on my side than not. His performances in the last couple days just seem to be providing commercials for Coons though.

Jane, I hadn't heard that from you before and that's pretty disappointing about Ace tbh knowing how you are.

Janet

Better to follow Master Rush than Master MFM.

Clarice

Coons' money advantage wiped out as $$ pour into O'Donnell's coffers.
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/09/coons-money-advantage-disappearing.html>$$$

The article below this one notes how Maddow sexualized O'D. Aren't "feminists" grand?

Porchlight

Thanks, JMH.

On balance I'd rather be with Rove than without him, too, but he drew first blood. Maybe he will come around.

jimmyk

I would point out that, given this president, that is one hell of a lot of damage over the next two years.

I am aware of that, but, first, a majority with the likes of Snowe, Castle, etc. would not stop a liberal SC (or any other) appointee. A particularly extreme nominee could be filibustered. Yes, it's possible the Dems could change the filibuster rules, but they would do so knowing that the tables would be turned on them beginning 2013. I don't see that happening.

Donald

Two points Stephanie:

As you describe Odonnell, sounds like me. I'd love to have me, or someone like me in serious political office.

As for Rove. My heart breaks. He has a lot of Donald back story also (Modest finanical and educational background).

I started voting in 1978. There was a congressional election and I did not vote for Newt Gingrich, because I didn't like him. I don't recall any other reason other than I find his name annoying.

In 1980 I had learned about the Libertarian Party at Georgia State University (Go Crimson Panthers!) as I was passing through and began a record of voting only for lieberatrians until the presidential election of 2000. I was a true beleiver baby, and would expound for hours at any bar, game (I'm a sports official, I would talk anybody's ear off that I worked with), beach, I didn't care. But by 2000, I was 40 and just didn't see where the kind of change I'm looking for would ever take place. Best to cut my losses and just vote against democrats.

Well, 10 years later, I'm looking up and my ideals appear to have another shot. And like a sucker I'm being drawn back in. And the whole tea party as a concept for basic original federal government ideals is what turns me on.

So, I thank Rick Santelli for putting a tag on it. I thank Sara Palin for embracing it and I thank every person that's given me that hope for America one more time.

I worked hope and change in to this post backward because I got lucky.

anduril

This:

Asked whether it would be OK to lie if you were hiding Jews in your home and Nazis came to the door, O'Donnell dodged.

"If I were in that situation . . . God would provide a way to do the right thing," she said.

As Maher mocked her and the audience hooted, O'Donnell insisted: "I believe that! You never have to have this deception."

doesn't mean she's a bad person, nor that she hasn't grown in her understanding of what truth and lying really are, but it's the kind of statements that get her labeled a "flake." And these types of statements (this one was made in the 1990s) that lead people to question her judgement.

Don't get me wrong...well, go ahead, get me wrong if you want to...I'd almost certainly vote for her, and certainly would never vote for her opponent, but this type of stuff does have an impact on electability.

Wikipedia says she's Catholic, but her statements sound very un-Catholic to me. I wonder whether there's some story there, too.

Donald

You're pretty fucking vapid there Anduril.

Jeremiah Right. Nutty.

Pashley1411

Its been said by already by so many above, but the worse case scenario is not the Dem's retaining the Senate. Its the GOP with 51 votes and no authority because there are 4-5 liberal GOP senators holding back any deficit cutting consensus.

Dudes, this isn't ending in 2010, the deficit tsunami is going to be at hurricane-force for years and years. There is NO POINT IN TAKING THE SENATE WITHOUT A CONSENSUS ABOUT THE MASSIVE PROGRAM CUTTING AND BUDGET SLASHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
Sorry for the caps, its warranted here, imho.

Stephanie

Exactly JimmyK but you forgot the biggest Dembuttsniffer...Graham. And he sits on the Judiciary Committee. If the senate were to change hands, exactly who is in line to chair which committees anyways?

"We owe it to the democratic process to pass this nominee to the floor for an up or down vote."

Which really makes that Goatze logo all that more apropos for the dembuttsniffer crowd and not the dems. BTW I hang my head in shame that I recognized the reference.

Rob Crawford

Which really makes that Goatze logo all that more apropos for the dembuttsniffer crowd and not the dems. BTW I hang my head in shame that I recognized the reference.

Their next logo is going to be titled "Two Girls, One Party".

DebinNC

Anyone read The Hiding Place, the true story of a Dutch Christian family, an elderly father and his two spinster daughters, who hid jews from the Nazis. The father and one sister died in captivity, but Corrie ten Boom survived and wrote about their experiences. One involved having to hurriedly hide some jews under their dining table when Nazis arrived. The adults present had agreed earlier to lie if required, but the officer asked their visiting niece, a young but devoted Christian, who simply told him the truth, "They're under the table." After castigating her for offering such a ridiculous lie, the Nazis left...alone.

daddy

"Castle didn’t respect a Tea Party-backed rival. Rather, he felt “insulted,” I’m told, that he had to face O’Donnell"

Same as with Lisa Murkowski. She was too busy doing the peoples important work in DC to even deign to debate Miller or come on any of the local radio shows long distance. So finally just before the election she has 1 debate completely choreographed by a biased local TV station, at which she never even has to answer questions from Miller due to the debate format.

Then she stunningly loses the Primary and can't figure out why.

So she concocts some nonsense that it was Lower 48 extremists who somehow came up here and highjacked the Primary and the Party, and now, even weeks later, she wants a "do-over", a "Mulligan."

Am still fuming about this. Any new word today from anyone back east on if she's finally going to "Respect the Will of the Electorate?", or is she still somewhere between stage 1 and stage 2 of the 5 stages of death:

1) Denial
2) Anger
3) Bargaining
4) Depression
5) Acceptance

PS Am told she is finally heading back to DC today...the important People's work, blah, blah, blah.

Rob Crawford

Hey, daddy -- I read some comments over at the Alask Daily News, and have a question for you:

Is borderline illiteracy the norm at that site?

JM Hanes

What stands out to me is how unhappy and aggrieved Democrats have remained all through their 4 years in the majority -- and how miserable and beaten up they have sounded in the last 2 years with a Democrat in the White House too.

One real advantage Republicans have had is that they are far more effective as a minority than the Democrats could ever dream of being. Even with Olympia Snowe's defections, they still managed to send a clear message that the Party of No existed for a reason -- a feat pulled off by incredibly disciplined caucuses, and one that did a great deal to set the current stage. I think a little more credit and a little less backlash will serve us best in the next couple of months.

With that, I will now return you to your regular channel, and start enjoying the tea party successes to date, along with everyone else.

anduril

a young but devoted Christian...

who very obviously didn't understand her "faith."

Ignatz

--Think I'm a flake?--

Is that a rhetorical question?

John McCain (RINO-AZ)

My friends, I want you to check the LUN for the type of Republican Senator you missed the chance of getting in Mike Castle.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Aren't "feminists" grand?

She is a FINO not a feminist. I am so sick of those liberal jerks co-opting that title. Real feminists do not hate men or consider themselves superior to them (or anyone else). Real feminist believe woman can be anything they want, including pro-life. Maddow is a complete jerk and not the least bit of a feminist.

Clarice

Yes, Deb, I read and remembered that story.

matt

how can I find a couple of research assistants and get me some a that grant money? I swear that there is a bestselling psych/self help book in Alternate Reality Syndrome.

The hot zone is most certainly DC, but it has spread to New York, Boston, and other major Blue zones.

Watching the doings of our political and chattering classes is becoming more like watching monkeys throw turds at each other every day, both figuratively and literally.

We are seeing the tail end of the industrial expansion of the past 18 months while there are storm warnings from Berlin to Madrid to London to New York to Tokyo. And all the while the monkeys toss feces and pick nits.

We are also seeing some strange behavior by people such as Soros, Buffet, and Greenspan. "No, nothing wrong here, move along....".

And daddy, I believe Senator Murkowski is in the rare 6th stage of Kubler Ross' matrix, which is "stealing the silverware" because she believes she can take it with her.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Janet,

I got your package today - thank you so much - and I'm not even serving my country!

Stephanie

Donald, are you still in the ATL? There seem to be several JOMers from around here. Maybe we can give Jane, Clarice, Daddy and others a run for their money with an IRL sometime.

Rob, Nana and Hill... oh, holy please no! I need eye bleach. And mental floss and goggles. Hell, there ain't enough netmemes to get rid of that.

daddy

"What's all the BS about her being a bad candidate based on?

She took a while but just paid off her college tuition loans..."

If only she had dropped out of College like that immanently qualified and well educated Alaskan Senator Mark Begich, then she wouldn't have had to pay off any College loans.

What an idiot she is, doing whatever it takes to get a College Education. What an embarrassment of a candidate. Sheesh!

Stephanie

Great description of the establishment Rep types... Sand Castles.

They build empires with great hopes and dreams and give them an appearance of stability, but with no foundation they crumble at the first wave...

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Some guy is on Howie Carr ranting that the Republican Party better figure out that we (The Tea party) don't take orders from them. If they think they can tell the Tea party to jump and we will say "how high" they are nuts.

I'm loving it.

 Ann

One thing to remember, if O'Donnell wins she will be seated immediately because this is a special election to replace Biden. She could be helpful in the lame duck session.

Her website crashed today when RUSH mentioned that if everyone sent her a dollar, she would not need help from the NRSC.

Send her some mullah!

Rob Crawford

Send her some mullah!

Done -- to her and Jeff Goldstein.

And I cut off NRO.

Dave (in MA)

Jane, the guy is right. I've never been an R and never plan to be. I've always been registered as U except for the time I pulled a D ballot to vote against someone and forgot to reregister as U until the next time I showed up at a primary and found I'd been a D for a whole year (shudder). And if the Tea Party ever becomes a party I'm not going to be a T, either. Fortunately MA changed the rules so that they don't automatically register you as a party member when you pull a specific ballot.

daddy

Dennis Miller just said that the reason Mayor Fenty in our Nation's Capitol lost re-election was because DC voters felt uncomfortable voting for a guy who they hadn't seen smoking crack on videotape:)

Jim Ryan

Christie says the pension system is broke.

Danube of Thought

Barone weighs in on O'Donnell. He doesn't like her chances.

narciso

What this has shown for the hundredth time, if it needed to be learned again, is that the pollster, all the brilliant gurus, what Rush calls 'the wizards of smart" those who are actually paid to obfuscate, I mean observe
don't know anything, specially in this volatile season, Riehl, McCain, (the other one) Bruce, were most in the right, Ace, followed the lunar deity into full Eeyorism,
and Patterico was already parked there.

daddy

"Hey, daddy -- I read some comments over at the Alask Daily News, and have a question for you:

Is borderline illiteracy the norm at that site?"

Rob C, Are you talking about in the comments or in the McClatchy stories themselves:)

Seriously though, I am definitely not the guy to belittle anybody for sentence construction or punctuation or where the hell a comma goes---I just fling 'em out there like anchors from a rudderless boat roaring down a mountain stream in flood season hoping to slow the damn thing down. But that said, "yes" literacy is not required amongst our hundreds of Ellie Lights. Please keep reading and posting at the ADN, especially if Lisa persists with this exceptionally destructive Write-In campaign.

Stephanie

O'Donnell comes out swinging.

((O'Donnell also took a shot at Rove's personal wealth when responding to his question about why she had taken "nearly two decades" to pay off her student bills.

"I'm not a trust fund baby," she said. "Most Delawarians can relate to having to work hard to pay for their college education. I was never dishonest about that." ))

LUN

narciso

Well the problem with a McClatchy story, and the AD News is typical, is that they often wrong if not on the facts, but the emphasis.
The comment sections are something else entirely, it's like Mos Eiseley in there, before Han shot Greedo

daddy

And FWIW, in a private e-mail a couple days back Soylent revealed to me that his least favorite punctuation mark is the semicolon!

But I've said too much...

Ellll...iotttt!

Cayyyy...roooo!

Woof!

Thomas Collins
"Sarah Palin snubbed the Tea Party in New Hampshire. I'm guessing it won't really hurt her."

Palin hasn't personally attacked Tea Partiers she hasn't supported in the manner that O'Donnell has been attacked by GOPers.

By the way, anduril, I thought your riff on my name a thread or two ago was hysterical. Gotta tip my hat to you on that one!

Rob Crawford

Seriously though, I am definitely not the guy to belittle anybody for sentence construction or punctuation or where the hell a comma goes---I just fling 'em out there like anchors from a rudderless boat roaring down a mountain stream in flood season hoping to slow the damn thing down. But that said, "yes" literacy is not required amongst our hundreds of Ellie Lights.

There's typos, then there's sentences that make no sense without charitably adding entire clauses or reordering the words.

Please keep reading and posting at the ADN, especially if Lisa persists with this exceptionally destructive Write-In campaign.

I have to limit myself on these things. I have no personal experience in Alaska, and don't think my 2 cents would be appropriate.

Rob Crawford

And FWIW, in a private e-mail a couple days back Soylent revealed to me that his least favorite punctuation mark is the semicolon!

Prefers the full colon, does he?

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Stephanie;

I'm another Atlantan. Clearly we have a critical mass.

centralcal

John McCain
Olympia Snowe
Susan Collins
Lindsey Graham

The idiots in Arizona have assured that McCain will be around to screw us yet again (already trying to with Dream Act). If I lived in AZ I would have voted for a homeless person before I would vote McCain again. But, alas . . .

I have a hard time getting all worked up over O'Donnell. I think she CAN win and may do so if enough of the Independents are as fed up as the national polling would suggest.

caro

I agree with JMH that we should be known as the Tea Parties.

At the march there were many different tea parties represented on caps and shirts.

Here is Jane's favorite.

sturbridge tea party logo

Dave (in MA)

Hey daddy, Can you hear that whooshing sound in AK?

It's the nonpartisan MFM dumpster divers rushing off to "Deleware".

anduril

immanently qualified

an interesting concept.

your riff on my name a thread or two ago

??

fdcol63

Incumbents and the "establishment" parties see the Revolution coming, and they don't like it. They see their power and careers swirling down the drain.

Remember November!

MaryD

Stephanie, thanks for that link. I thought O'Donnell acquitted herself quite well, especially given her inexperience at national level politicking. I also thought Steffy was pretty good -- he brought up all of the negatives, but gave her plenty of time to respond -- pleasant surprise.

Jane

Yeah Caro! Now tell me guys that isn't a great sign. Make your reservations to come to Sturbridge today. You can all stay here - if you don't mind camping, or I am arranging for a Tea party discount at a local hotel.

BTW Daddy, every time I travel with Caro and we walk into a restroom at the same time she shouts: "Daddy says the first one is best". I can't tell you how embarrassing that is!

Stephanie

Jim you were one of the several of whom I was thinking.

caro

I wonder if Barone and Cost have been to a Tea Party. I admire both so much but think that would open their eyes to the extra special sauce that is out there.

RichatUF

Yeah! Some Establishment GOPers helped Obama pass another stimulus/bailout bill. And Obama is railing about "tax cuts for the wealthy". Stupid-the Congress and the White House have known for years that the tax cuts would expire, and sure enough, the political calander compressed and they can't get done. "We don't have time for any more games..."

MaryD

Matt, 'The President's New Clothes' was a hoot. Princess Shopping Cart and her environmentally sustainable ensemble had me in stitches.

Favorite part "...the sycophants and hangers-on all cried with joy at her inventiveness. The plebes, however, began to call her Princess Gaga."

Comedy gold!

Clarice

Barone also notes what I did last night--the far greater enthusiasm of republican voters as demonstrated by their turnout in the primaries.

Janet

and I'm not even serving my country!

Ahhhh, but you are! How cool that you are putting together a Tea Party....really, it is very cool! Love the sign too...Sturbridge Tea Party. Hoo-ah!

centralcal

Great sign, Caro and Jane!

hrtshpdbox

"No wonder Stu Rothenberg has already moved the Delaware Senate race from Lean Republican to Lean Democratic.."

Rothenberg is the genius who declared in early '09 that the GOP had "zero" chance of taking back the House; he went out of his way to say that "slim" or "small" were incorrect characterizations of the chances.

RichatUF

caro-

But they only have what is in front of them-polling data, previous elections, history. The Senate was always a long shot given how many seats the Reps had to defend even with a wave election.

I can't quite figure out why O'Donnell is turning out to be such a polarizing figure though. Maybe the Dems will dump a bunch of money and people into Delaware and give her the full Alinsky and ignore races elsewhere?

And a great flag. Sorry I missed you and Jane this weekend.

Clarice

Janr, Caro--Love that sign!!

Rocco

And they wonder why?

Education

Amnesty

CFR

just for starters

Stephanie

You know, we joke around alot about grammar around here. It got me thinking, though.

We see so much incorrect crap everywhere nowadays - stuff that Miss Sanders in the 6th grade would have swooned over - that it is really getting difficult to construct a sentence and be really sure anymore if the construction is correct or incorrect. You see it everywhere, and it starts to permeate. Then you begin to question your own impulse on how to spell or construct a thought. Your moral clarity and certainty in Miss Sander's teachings is gone and your own gut can be led astray.

It's kind of like the tendrils of social justice. Just a whisker, then a paw, then the next thing you know, the skunk has entered the tent and everything is so permeated with the stench, you can't identify the problem nor how to fix it.

When people say pick your battles, I think they are wrong. The war should be occurring on all fronts and pushed back in all battles. Not fought to perfection, but fought to maintain the striving for the best that we can do. Grand things and trivialities - they all matter.

I don't know about y'all, but I feel like I am getting dumber every day from the constant onslaught of illiteracy, innumeracy and inaccuracy. Repetitively seeing the same stupidity eventually makes the stupidity feel correct and the correct feel foreign.

This is how something that intuitively felt so wrong 30 or 50 years ago gained entrance in the tent and why so many are confused about what their senses tell them.

Just something that has been raging around in my muddled mind. And something that the attempted construction of a sentence above brought to clarity.

Thomas Collins

Can't find it now, anduril, but you really did do a great riff on my name (at least in my opinion).

Pagar

Can she get a Million today?

Clarice

speaking of the odds, Rubio who you might recall was a sure loser to the moderate (i.e., unreliable squish) Crist, is now beating him by 14 % in the polls.

Rob Crawford

I don't know about y'all, but I feel like I am getting dumber every day from the constant onslaught of illiteracy, innumeracy and inaccuracy. Repetitively seeing the same stupidity eventually makes the stupidity feel correct and the correct feel foreign.

I feel dumber after reading a few lolcats.

Keep going back, though. :-)

Jane

Wow wow wow wow!!!! Pagar. Now that is simply amazing.

rse

The Atlantans could meet up on October 6 before or after listening to Andy McCarthy speak at Emory.

Also find it interesting that Nathan Deal's financial problems hit the news just days before early voting starts.

Porchlight
This is how something that intuitively felt so wrong 30 or 50 years ago gained entrance in the tent and why so many are confused about what their senses tell them.

Very nicely put, Stephanie. That is one reason I have always believed that social liberalism inexorably leads to fiscal liberalism. Once you allow the "it's for the chiiillllldrenn!" whisker in the tent, it becomes increasingly more difficult to keep the rest out. Then the attendant social programs become entrenched and the framework on which lean government is based begins to crumble. It's like the bailout mentality. It takes hold, and one slowly becomes unable to remember or even imagine how things used to be.

That's the left's goal, of course. Alinsky said to throw so much stuff at the opposition that chaos begins to feel normal.

Our forefathers understood all this much better than we do.

Rob Crawford

Can she get a Million today?

What kind of cash do you think is needed to get through to the election?

BTW -- anyone else notice that her opponent is an independently wealthy, self-described Marxist?

Huh.

centralcal

Completely O/T and probably of little interest, but I was shocked to see on Politico that Brian Wilson of FNC has resigned. He was suspended for 2 months after getting into a bit of a scuffle with a producer.

I always liked Brian - big, Texan guy.

Rob Crawford

Very nicely put, Stephanie. That is one reason I have always believed that social liberalism inexorably leads to fiscal liberalism. Once you allow the "it's for the chiiillllldrenn!" whisker in the tent, it becomes increasingly more difficult to keep the rest out.

It's "not theirs to give" -- the (apocryphal?) story of Davy Crockett speaking out against an act of Congress that would have given money to the widow of a naval officer. One account of it, LUN.

The congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington, no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from the necessity of giving by giving what was not yours to give. The people have delegated to Congress, by the Constitution, the power to do certain things. To do these, it is authorized to collect and pay moneys, and for nothing else. Everything beyond this is usurpation, and a violation of the Constitution.

sbw

Stephanie, I run a daily newspaper. I correct employees' grammar every day -- just not every time. They expect it. After a while they often correct themselves before I have to.

Because it matters to me, it matters to them.

Then, eventually, it matters to them even without me.

Rob Crawford

Love the conclusion:

"Now, sir," concluded Crockett, "you know why I made that speech yesterday.

"There is one thing now to which I will call your attention. You remember that I proposed to give a week's pay. There are in that House many very wealthy men - men who think nothing of spending a week's pay, or a dozen of them, for a dinner or a wine party when they have something to accomplish by it. Some of those same men made beautiful speeches upon the great debt of gratitude which the country owed the deceased--a debt which could not be paid by money--and the insignificance and worthlessness of money, particularly so insignificant a sum as $10,000, when weighed against the honor of the nation. Yet not one of them responded to my proposition. Money with them is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it."

The more things change, etc.

rse

OT but classic-

Obama is having a town hall in DC on Sept 20 and is looking for members of the Princeton Club to fill the audience.

LUN even has the email. Such diversity.

Come show your support for MO as a fellow alum.

narciso

The Princeton Club, what is this Trading Places all of a sudden, with Louis Winthorpe, hiding in the shadows.

centralcal

rse: I see they request a "color photo" of the Princeton Club member wanting to attend.

matt

I remember not too long ago that someone posted satellite photos of the Arctic sea ice and its expansion over the past summer because of record cold.

Now we have the LUN, which says that the arctic sea ice was the third lowest ever. It seems to me there is some conflicting data.

Elliott

Kaine's blockbuster, sure-to-excite Dems announcement seems to be a new DNC logo and "streamlined" website.

It looks like "OD" to me. Good to see the DNC on the mark.

Porchlight

Lame!

Rob Crawford

They got Obama's initial into that logo, though, didn't they?

(Cue Living Colour...)

Melinda Romanoff

Ooooooh!!

An elevator button!!!

Going Down?


Hhahahahahah!

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